(09-20-2022 02:33 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 02:30 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 02:19 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 02:15 PM)solohawks Wrote:  So it sounds like the PAC will sign a short term GOR to get them through the next decade or in alignment with the ACC.

Take SDSU and maybe SMU like everyone's suggesting

I will be stunned if the PAC signs another Grant of Rights. In fact, I'll be stunned if any conference signs another Grant of Rights again. Those always have to be unaimous, and there will always be some teams in a conference who think they might leave. Those were only signed because some people got fooled into thinking realignment was over after the early 2010s.


I also haven't seen any evidence that SDSU and SMU add value to the PAC. (And I'm not even going to get started on the C-USA teams some people were suggesting in a thread today.) If the Big 10 is done expanding, I think the PAC will stay at 10.

^^^
This.

Yall don't think they will at least add SDSU to get to 11 and keep somewhat of a presence in SoCal?

Not if adding SDSU is dilutive. I have a hard time seeing ESPN paying $25 million per year more — or even $12 million per year more — for a program that’s currently earning $4 million per year from CBS and Fox.

Now if the Pac-12 loses another member or two that changes the calculation. Given the NCAA requirement to have eight full FBS members to remain an FBS conference, as well as the need for a minimum eight-game conference football schedule, there’s no way the Pac-12 allows its membership to slip below nine.

(09-20-2022 03:35 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 03:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 02:56 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 02:19 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 02:15 PM)solohawks Wrote:  So it sounds like the PAC will sign a short term GOR to get them through the next decade or in alignment with the ACC.

Take SDSU and maybe SMU like everyone's suggesting

I will be stunned if the PAC signs another Grant of Rights. In fact, I'll be stunned if any conference signs another Grant of Rights again. Those always have to be unaimous, and there will always be some teams in a conference who think they might leave. Those were only signed because some people got fooled into thinking realignment was over after the early 2010s.


I also haven't seen any evidence that SDSU and SMU add value to the PAC. (And I'm not even going to get started on the C-USA teams some people were suggesting in a thread today.) If the Big 10 is done expanding, I think the PAC will stay at 10.

Any conference would be hard pressed to find a media partner that wouldn't insist on a GOR to protect the interests of the media company.

GORs just came into place with the conference networks. They are protected by a conference composition clause.

Grant of Rights were invented by David Boren of Oklahoma. The Big Ten and SEC do not have grant of rights.

The Big Ten has had a GOR since the early 90s. Historically it ran longer than their TV deals, giving the conference security past any individual media contract. SEC has a GOR that runs concurrent to their media deal.

(09-20-2022 03:56 PM)Just Joe Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 03:35 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 03:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 02:56 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 02:19 PM)Poster Wrote:  I will be stunned if the PAC signs another Grant of Rights. In fact, I'll be stunned if any conference signs another Grant of Rights again. Those always have to be unaimous, and there will always be some teams in a conference who think they might leave. Those were only signed because some people got fooled into thinking realignment was over after the early 2010s.


I also haven't seen any evidence that SDSU and SMU add value to the PAC. (And I'm not even going to get started on the C-USA teams some people were suggesting in a thread today.) If the Big 10 is done expanding, I think the PAC will stay at 10.

Any conference would be hard pressed to find a media partner that wouldn't insist on a GOR to protect the interests of the media company.

GORs just came into place with the conference networks. They are protected by a conference composition clause.

Grant of Rights were invented by David Boren of Oklahoma. The Big Ten and SEC do not have grant of rights.

The Big Ten has had a GOR since the early 90s. Historically it ran longer than their TV deals, giving the conference security past any individual media contract. SEC has a GOR that runs concurrent to their media deal.

Link? I just typed Big Ten Grant of Rights into google, and I didn't get a single result that was actually about a Big Ten Grant of Rights. (All the results were about how the Big Ten probably won't be able to get ACC teams until the ACC grant of rights expires.)

(09-20-2022 03:35 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 03:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 02:56 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 02:19 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 02:15 PM)solohawks Wrote:  So it sounds like the PAC will sign a short term GOR to get them through the next decade or in alignment with the ACC.

Take SDSU and maybe SMU like everyone's suggesting

I will be stunned if the PAC signs another Grant of Rights. In fact, I'll be stunned if any conference signs another Grant of Rights again. Those always have to be unaimous, and there will always be some teams in a conference who think they might leave. Those were only signed because some people got fooled into thinking realignment was over after the early 2010s.


I also haven't seen any evidence that SDSU and SMU add value to the PAC. (And I'm not even going to get started on the C-USA teams some people were suggesting in a thread today.) If the Big 10 is done expanding, I think the PAC will stay at 10.

Any conference would be hard pressed to find a media partner that wouldn't insist on a GOR to protect the interests of the media company.

GORs just came into place with the conference networks. They are protected by a conference composition clause.

Grant of Rights were invented by David Boren of Oklahoma. The Big Ten and SEC do not have grant of rights.

Wanna bet?

Why 2023? It starts with expiring TV contracts. The ACC and SEC both have long-term media grant-of-rights agreements, running through 2035-36 and 2033-34, respectively.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...-shuffling

(09-20-2022 04:08 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 03:35 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 03:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 02:56 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 02:19 PM)Poster Wrote:  I will be stunned if the PAC signs another Grant of Rights. In fact, I'll be stunned if any conference signs another Grant of Rights again. Those always have to be unaimous, and there will always be some teams in a conference who think they might leave. Those were only signed because some people got fooled into thinking realignment was over after the early 2010s.


I also haven't seen any evidence that SDSU and SMU add value to the PAC. (And I'm not even going to get started on the C-USA teams some people were suggesting in a thread today.) If the Big 10 is done expanding, I think the PAC will stay at 10.

Any conference would be hard pressed to find a media partner that wouldn't insist on a GOR to protect the interests of the media company.

GORs just came into place with the conference networks. They are protected by a conference composition clause.

Grant of Rights were invented by David Boren of Oklahoma. The Big Ten and SEC do not have grant of rights.

Wanna bet?

Why 2023? It starts with expiring TV contracts. The ACC and SEC both have long-term media grant-of-rights agreements, running through 2035-36 and 2033-34, respectively.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...-shuffling

That article claiming the the SEC has a grant of rights has already been beaten to hell on here. The author inexplicably conflates media rights agreements with grant of rights agreements.


You still haven’t shown an article claiming the Big 10 has a GOR.

(09-20-2022 04:12 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:08 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 03:35 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 03:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 02:56 PM)XLance Wrote:  Any conference would be hard pressed to find a media partner that wouldn't insist on a GOR to protect the interests of the media company.

GORs just came into place with the conference networks. They are protected by a conference composition clause.

Grant of Rights were invented by David Boren of Oklahoma. The Big Ten and SEC do not have grant of rights.

Wanna bet?

Why 2023? It starts with expiring TV contracts. The ACC and SEC both have long-term media grant-of-rights agreements, running through 2035-36 and 2033-34, respectively.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...-shuffling

That article claiming the the SEC has a grant of rights has already been beaten to hell on here. The author inexplicably conflates media rights agreements with grant of rights agreements.


You still haven’t shown an article claiming the Big 10 has a GOR.

(09-20-2022 04:00 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 03:56 PM)Just Joe Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 03:35 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 03:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 02:56 PM)XLance Wrote:  Any conference would be hard pressed to find a media partner that wouldn't insist on a GOR to protect the interests of the media company.

GORs just came into place with the conference networks. They are protected by a conference composition clause.

Grant of Rights were invented by David Boren of Oklahoma. The Big Ten and SEC do not have grant of rights.

The Big Ten has had a GOR since the early 90s. Historically it ran longer than their TV deals, giving the conference security past any individual media contract. SEC has a GOR that runs concurrent to their media deal.

Link? I just typed Big Ten Grant of Rights into google, and I didn't get a single result that was actually about a Big Ten Grant of Rights. (All the results were about how the Big Ten probably won't be able to get ACC teams until the ACC grant of rights expires.)

As far as historically, I don't have one at the moment, but it was common knowledge in the leadup to the 2010-11 round of expansion. Jim Delany's idea, was later adopted by the Pac 10 later in the 90s/early 2000s.

Whether it still outpaces the TV deal, I don't know. Delany was coy (this was years ago, I'll try to find the interview later) about how long the GOR was for at that time as opposed to the length of the media rights being common knowledge.

As far as currently:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...-shuffling

Rittenberg mentions the SEC having a GOR. At the time of the article, I thought Rittenberg might've been conflating GORs with media deals and asked a question on the board about it last month. A few posters (JRSec for one) confirmed the SEC GOR and one mentioned that Pete Thamel has referenced an SEC GOR as well.

(09-20-2022 04:15 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:12 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:08 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 03:35 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 03:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  GORs just came into place with the conference networks. They are protected by a conference composition clause.

Grant of Rights were invented by David Boren of Oklahoma. The Big Ten and SEC do not have grant of rights.

Wanna bet?

Why 2023? It starts with expiring TV contracts. The ACC and SEC both have long-term media grant-of-rights agreements, running through 2035-36 and 2033-34, respectively.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...-shuffling

That article claiming the the SEC has a grant of rights has already been beaten to hell on here. The author inexplicably conflates media rights agreements with grant of rights agreements.


You still haven’t shown an article claiming the Big 10 has a GOR.

A media rights agreement is literally just a television contract. Somehow the author of that piece conflated it with a Grant of Rights agreement.


You can see threads on this forum discussing that article.

(09-20-2022 04:18 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:15 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:12 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:08 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 03:35 PM)Poster Wrote:  Grant of Rights were invented by David Boren of Oklahoma. The Big Ten and SEC do not have grant of rights.

Wanna bet?

Why 2023? It starts with expiring TV contracts. The ACC and SEC both have long-term media grant-of-rights agreements, running through 2035-36 and 2033-34, respectively.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...-shuffling

That article claiming the the SEC has a grant of rights has already been beaten to hell on here. The author inexplicably conflates media rights agreements with grant of rights agreements.


You still haven’t shown an article claiming the Big 10 has a GOR.

A media rights agreement is literally just a television contract. Somehow the author of that piece conflated it with a Grant of Rights agreement.


You can see threads on this forum discussing that article.

It was actually Wayne Duke's idea and the Pac 10 was later to the game than I thought, but here you go.

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/11/sport...aring.html

"The Big Ten and Pac-12 members have signed grants of rights, which basically give all of the television rights from each university’s sports to the conference for a specified number of years. If a member switches conferences, the rights cannot be transferred.

The Big Ten has had this arrangement since 1988, the year before Commissioner Jim Delany arrived. The Pac-12 members did so, soon after Scott took office.

In a phone interview on Friday, Delany said the Big Ten had extended the grant of rights in 2007 for either 20 or 25 years. That he could not remember says a lot about how secure the league is. When the Big 12 situation is settled, it will make sense for the A.C.C. and the Big East to push their members to make such a commitment.

“Only two leagues have it,” Delany said. “There are more than two stable conferences. It’s a chicken-and-egg thing. You do it not to become stable, but you do it because you are stable.”

(09-20-2022 04:23 PM)Just Joe Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:18 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:15 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:12 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:08 PM)XLance Wrote:  Wanna bet?

Why 2023? It starts with expiring TV contracts. The ACC and SEC both have long-term media grant-of-rights agreements, running through 2035-36 and 2033-34, respectively.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...-shuffling

That article claiming the the SEC has a grant of rights has already been beaten to hell on here. The author inexplicably conflates media rights agreements with grant of rights agreements.


You still haven’t shown an article claiming the Big 10 has a GOR.

A media rights agreement is literally just a television contract. Somehow the author of that piece conflated it with a Grant of Rights agreement.


You can see threads on this forum discussing that article.

It was actually Wayne Duke's idea and the Pac 10 was later to the game than I thought, but here you go.

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/11/sport...aring.html

"The Big Ten and Pac-12 members have signed grants of rights, which basically give all of the television rights from each university’s sports to the conference for a specified number of years. If a member switches conferences, the rights cannot be transferred.

The Big Ten has had this arrangement since 1988, the year before Commissioner Jim Delany arrived. The Pac-12 members did so, soon after Scott took office.

In a phone interview on Friday, Delany said the Big Ten had extended the grant of rights in 2007 for either 20 or 25 years. That he could not remember says a lot about how secure the league is. When the Big 12 situation is settled, it will make sense for the A.C.C. and the Big East to push their members to make such a commitment.

“Only two leagues have it,” Delany said. “There are more than two stable conferences. It’s a chicken-and-egg thing. You do it not to become stable, but you do it because you are stable.”

I will say it again, force UO and UW to put Olympics in the Big West or MWC, and take their football. Pay them full shares for the football portion. No payout reductions. Those are incredibly valuable late night properties that gets ESPN back in the game and forces NBC and CBS to pay the full allotted amount.

MWC has to play ball, or the Big West. Pay them some royalties to park women's volleyball or whatever they play in that conference. Write in an opt-in for full membership in the B1G for 2031.

I am in no way shape or form advocating for this. I am speaking as a business guy in this case.

(09-20-2022 04:23 PM)Just Joe Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:18 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:15 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:12 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:08 PM)XLance Wrote:  Wanna bet?

Why 2023? It starts with expiring TV contracts. The ACC and SEC both have long-term media grant-of-rights agreements, running through 2035-36 and 2033-34, respectively.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...-shuffling

That article claiming the the SEC has a grant of rights has already been beaten to hell on here. The author inexplicably conflates media rights agreements with grant of rights agreements.


You still haven’t shown an article claiming the Big 10 has a GOR.

A media rights agreement is literally just a television contract. Somehow the author of that piece conflated it with a Grant of Rights agreement.


You can see threads on this forum discussing that article.

It was actually Wayne Duke's idea and the Pac 10 was later to the game than I thought, but here you go.

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/11/sport...aring.html

"The Big Ten and Pac-12 members have signed grants of rights, which basically give all of the television rights from each university’s sports to the conference for a specified number of years. If a member switches conferences, the rights cannot be transferred.

The Big Ten has had this arrangement since 1988, the year before Commissioner Jim Delany arrived. The Pac-12 members did so, soon after Scott took office.

In a phone interview on Friday, Delany said the Big Ten had extended the grant of rights in 2007 for either 20 or 25 years. That he could not remember says a lot about how secure the league is. When the Big 12 situation is settled, it will make sense for the A.C.C. and the Big East to push their members to make such a commitment.

“Only two leagues have it,” Delany said. “There are more than two stable conferences. It’s a chicken-and-egg thing. You do it not to become stable, but you do it because you are stable.”

Hmm.


I think that will be the last extension of the Big Ten GOR, since programs like Michigan and Ohio State might be looking to form a new conference that excludes teams like Northwestern by the time the GOR expires.

(09-20-2022 04:29 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:23 PM)Just Joe Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:18 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:15 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:12 PM)Poster Wrote:  That article claiming the the SEC has a grant of rights has already been beaten to hell on here. The author inexplicably conflates media rights agreements with grant of rights agreements.


You still haven’t shown an article claiming the Big 10 has a GOR.

A media rights agreement is literally just a television contract. Somehow the author of that piece conflated it with a Grant of Rights agreement.


You can see threads on this forum discussing that article.

It was actually Wayne Duke's idea and the Pac 10 was later to the game than I thought, but here you go.

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/11/sport...aring.html

"The Big Ten and Pac-12 members have signed grants of rights, which basically give all of the television rights from each university’s sports to the conference for a specified number of years. If a member switches conferences, the rights cannot be transferred.

The Big Ten has had this arrangement since 1988, the year before Commissioner Jim Delany arrived. The Pac-12 members did so, soon after Scott took office.

In a phone interview on Friday, Delany said the Big Ten had extended the grant of rights in 2007 for either 20 or 25 years. That he could not remember says a lot about how secure the league is. When the Big 12 situation is settled, it will make sense for the A.C.C. and the Big East to push their members to make such a commitment.

“Only two leagues have it,” Delany said. “There are more than two stable conferences. It’s a chicken-and-egg thing. You do it not to become stable, but you do it because you are stable.”

Hmm.


I think that will be the last extension of the Big Ten GOR, since programs like Michigan and Ohio State might be looking to form a new conference that excludes teams like Northwestern by the time the GOR expires.

Maybe, but the Big Ten GOR has been such a critical part of their stability for so long, that we'd have heard about it if Michigan, Ohio St, etc. had at some point thrown the brakes on extending it. I think it's far more likely the GOR was probably quietly extended within the last decade and runs well into or even past the 2030s.

(09-20-2022 03:02 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 02:56 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 02:19 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 02:15 PM)solohawks Wrote:  So it sounds like the PAC will sign a short term GOR to get them through the next decade or in alignment with the ACC.

Take SDSU and maybe SMU like everyone's suggesting

I will be stunned if the PAC signs another Grant of Rights. In fact, I'll be stunned if any conference signs another Grant of Rights again. Those always have to be unaimous, and there will always be some teams in a conference who think they might leave. Those were only signed because some people got fooled into thinking realignment was over after the early 2010s.


I also haven't seen any evidence that SDSU and SMU add value to the PAC. (And I'm not even going to get started on the C-USA teams some people were suggesting in a thread today.) If the Big 10 is done expanding, I think the PAC will stay at 10.

Any conference would be hard pressed to find a media partner that wouldn't insist on a GOR to protect the interests of the media company.

Maybe a GOR adds $1 million a year or something to a tv contract. I would still be very surprised if Oregon and Washington agree to it. (Except maybe if the contract is for 2 years or something extremely short.)

Aren't there rumors that Oregon and Washington are pushing for unequal sharing in the next contract? They pretty clearly aren't looking out for the conference as a whole.

I’d guess a GOR adds 15-25%.

(09-20-2022 02:19 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 02:15 PM)solohawks Wrote:  So it sounds like the PAC will sign a short term GOR to get them through the next decade or in alignment with the ACC.

Take SDSU and maybe SMU like everyone's suggesting

I will be stunned if the PAC signs another Grant of Rights. In fact, I'll be stunned if any conference signs another Grant of Rights again. Those always have to be unaimous, and there will always be some teams in a conference who think they might leave. Those were only signed because some people got fooled into thinking realignment was over after the early 2010s.


I also haven't seen any evidence that SDSU and SMU add value to the PAC. (And I'm not even going to get started on the C-USA teams some people were suggesting in a thread today.) If the Big 10 is done expanding, I think the PAC will stay at 10.

They have to sign GoR these days to get their media contracts completed, so everybody, including the SEC and B1G, will be signing GoR going forward.

(09-20-2022 03:56 PM)Just Joe Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 03:35 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 03:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 02:56 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 02:19 PM)Poster Wrote:  I will be stunned if the PAC signs another Grant of Rights. In fact, I'll be stunned if any conference signs another Grant of Rights again. Those always have to be unaimous, and there will always be some teams in a conference who think they might leave. Those were only signed because some people got fooled into thinking realignment was over after the early 2010s.


I also haven't seen any evidence that SDSU and SMU add value to the PAC. (And I'm not even going to get started on the C-USA teams some people were suggesting in a thread today.) If the Big 10 is done expanding, I think the PAC will stay at 10.

Any conference would be hard pressed to find a media partner that wouldn't insist on a GOR to protect the interests of the media company.

GORs just came into place with the conference networks. They are protected by a conference composition clause.

Grant of Rights were invented by David Boren of Oklahoma. The Big Ten and SEC do not have grant of rights.

The Big Ten has had a GOR since the early 90s. Historically it ran longer than their TV deals, giving the conference security past any individual media contract. SEC has a GOR that runs concurrent to their media deal.

I thought the Big 10 GOR started in 2007 with their BTN deal (edit-I see where it was shown to be 1988 above-the BTN was merely the extension). And SEC's definitely started with the SEC Network.

(09-20-2022 04:29 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:23 PM)Just Joe Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:18 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:15 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:12 PM)Poster Wrote:  That article claiming the the SEC has a grant of rights has already been beaten to hell on here. The author inexplicably conflates media rights agreements with grant of rights agreements.


You still haven’t shown an article claiming the Big 10 has a GOR.

A media rights agreement is literally just a television contract. Somehow the author of that piece conflated it with a Grant of Rights agreement.


You can see threads on this forum discussing that article.

It was actually Wayne Duke's idea and the Pac 10 was later to the game than I thought, but here you go.

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/11/sport...aring.html

"The Big Ten and Pac-12 members have signed grants of rights, which basically give all of the television rights from each university’s sports to the conference for a specified number of years. If a member switches conferences, the rights cannot be transferred.

The Big Ten has had this arrangement since 1988, the year before Commissioner Jim Delany arrived. The Pac-12 members did so, soon after Scott took office.

In a phone interview on Friday, Delany said the Big Ten had extended the grant of rights in 2007 for either 20 or 25 years. That he could not remember says a lot about how secure the league is. When the Big 12 situation is settled, it will make sense for the A.C.C. and the Big East to push their members to make such a commitment.

“Only two leagues have it,” Delany said. “There are more than two stable conferences. It’s a chicken-and-egg thing. You do it not to become stable, but you do it because you are stable.”

Hmm.


I think that will be the last extension of the Big Ten GOR, since programs like Michigan and Ohio State might be looking to form a new conference that excludes teams like Northwestern by the time the GOR expires.

So first you (incorrectly) claim that nobody has or needs a GoR, then you claim that there won't be another in the future b/c "Michigan and tOSU". Um, they can't play each other 12 times a year, they need a conference, and the SEC is too good in football. So...their choices are stay in the B1G or join the NFL.

(09-20-2022 05:17 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:29 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:23 PM)Just Joe Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:18 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:15 PM)XLance Wrote:  

A media rights agreement is literally just a television contract. Somehow the author of that piece conflated it with a Grant of Rights agreement.


You can see threads on this forum discussing that article.

It was actually Wayne Duke's idea and the Pac 10 was later to the game than I thought, but here you go.

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/11/sport...aring.html

"The Big Ten and Pac-12 members have signed grants of rights, which basically give all of the television rights from each university’s sports to the conference for a specified number of years. If a member switches conferences, the rights cannot be transferred.

The Big Ten has had this arrangement since 1988, the year before Commissioner Jim Delany arrived. The Pac-12 members did so, soon after Scott took office.

In a phone interview on Friday, Delany said the Big Ten had extended the grant of rights in 2007 for either 20 or 25 years. That he could not remember says a lot about how secure the league is. When the Big 12 situation is settled, it will make sense for the A.C.C. and the Big East to push their members to make such a commitment.

“Only two leagues have it,” Delany said. “There are more than two stable conferences. It’s a chicken-and-egg thing. You do it not to become stable, but you do it because you are stable.”

Hmm.


I think that will be the last extension of the Big Ten GOR, since programs like Michigan and Ohio State might be looking to form a new conference that excludes teams like Northwestern by the time the GOR expires.

So first you (incorrectly) claim that nobody has or needs a GoR, then you claim that there won't be another in the future b/c "Michigan and tOSU". Um, they can't play each other 12 times a year, they need a conference, and the SEC is too good in football. So...their choices are stay in the B1G or join the NFL.

Eventually a school will sign an independent football TV deal and the conference won't kick them out because they want to play them.

...this cat thinks otherwise, although who knows as to his 'sources' (and apologies if this has already been posted somewhere):

I don’t see what the big fuss about a GOR is all about. You don’t need a GOR; you just sign a media deal that explicitly states that should 2 or more schools from a given pool leave, the per school payout of the contract drops to $X/school annually.

As I recall, the Big East/AAC used to have a clause like this that reevaluated the contract should may of the bigger programs leave.