(09-20-2022 12:48 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 11:24 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I didn't address it because most of it is complete horseshit...and it's been covered here many many times in the past. And as far as conspiracies go, it's one of the dumbest ever. Why would the democrats kill off brown and black babies when that's a HUGE part of their voting bloc and it alone can win them most all elections if they get a good turnout?

Man, you are historically illiterate. This is well documented and no conspiracy.

But continue to tell us how you 'schooled' other posters.

Yeah, no, wrong again. Consider this a schooling.

Quote:Historians and scholars who’ve examined Sanger’s correspondence, as Salon reported in 2011, challenge those who call the activist racist.

Much of the controversy stems from a 1939 letter in which Sanger outlined her plan to reach out to black leaders — specifically ministers — to help dispel community suspicions about the family planning clinics she was opening in the South.

“We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members,” she wrote. It was, as the Washington Post called it, an “inartfully written” sentence, but one that, in context, describes the sort of preposterous allegations she feared — not her actual mission. The irony is that it has been used to propagate those very allegations. Cruz’s letter to the director of the National Portrait Gallery, for example, quotes only the first half of the sentence.

Sanger’s stated mission was to empower women to make their own reproductive choices. She did focus her efforts on minority communities, because that was where, due to poverty and limited access to health care, women were especially vulnerable to the effects of unplanned pregnancy. As she framed it, birth control was the fundamental women’s rights issue. “Enforced motherhood,” she wrote in 1914, “is the most complete denial of a woman’s right to life and liberty.”

That’s not to say that Sanger didn’t also make some deeply disturbing statements in support of eugenics, the now-discredited movement to improve the overall health and fitness of humankind through selective breeding. She did, and very publicly. In a 1921 article, she wrote that, “the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective.”

She was, of course, not alone in this viewpoint: In the 1920s and 1930s, eugenics enjoyed widespread support from mainstream doctors, scientists and the general public. Planned Parenthood officials are quick to note that, despite her thoughts on the idea in general, Sanger “uniformly repudiated the racist exploitation of eugenics principles.”

In 1966, Martin Luther King Jr. made clear that he agreed that Sanger’s life’s work was anything but inhumane. In 1966, when King received Planned Parenthood’s Margaret Sanger Award in Human Rights, he praised her contributions to the black community. “There is a striking kinship between our movement and Margaret Sanger’s early efforts,” he said. “…Margaret Sanger had to commit what was then called a crime in order to enrich humanity, and today we honor her courage and vision.”

What Margaret Sanger Really Said About Eugenics and Race

(09-20-2022 12:48 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 11:24 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I didn't address it because most of it is complete horseshit...and it's been covered here many many times in the past. And as far as conspiracies go, it's one of the dumbest ever. Why would the democrats kill off brown and black babies when that's a HUGE part of their voting bloc and it alone can win them most all elections if they get a good turnout?

Man, you are historically illiterate. This is well documented and no conspiracy.

But continue to tell us how you 'schooled' other posters.

Tom isn't technically lying.. He drives a school bus.. So he takes alot of people to school...

Let's see.....The Washington Post and Time magazine as sources. Not fair or balanced. Not surprised that they would try and whitewash history.

You can believe B.S. leftist propaganda if you wish, Tom. Hardly a "schooling."

But my leftist sources say it was not so!

(09-20-2022 01:51 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Let's see.....The Washington Post and Time magazine as sources. Not fair or balanced. Not surprised that they would try and whitewash history.

You can believe B.S. leftist propaganda if you wish, Tom. Hardly a "schooling."

But my leftist sources say it was not so!

I quoted her words...and also those of MLK. Who's your sources?

My sources are too many to mention. I studied this in depth a few years back. There are thousands of sources, as a simple search will show.

It is the liberal media that tries its hardest to whitewash Sanger's history and actions.

(09-20-2022 02:15 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  My sources are too many to mention. I studied this in depth a few years back. There are thousands of sources, as a simple search will show.

It is the liberal media that tries its hardest to whitewash Sanger's history and actions.

About what I expected. Your source is your own opinions. Predictable.

Again, what sense does it make for PP to at the same time want democrats in office and also want to get rid of black and brown future reliable voters? Not to mention, Sangers words were nearly a ******* 100 years ago!

From RedTom's article...direct quote from the eugenist

“We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members,”

She didn't even deny it, she just said she didn't want that to be her reputation.

If you're out to exterminate babies of a particular race, you usually don't proclaim your stated goal to the people of that race.

The fact she had to fight that notion right off the bat speaks louder than any white washed writeup

(09-20-2022 12:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 11:52 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 11:24 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 10:45 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 09:44 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Just like 4% of Hitler's budget was for the concentration camps?

Since RWT was quoted...

So based on RWT's answer I'm guessing he's OK with the eugenics part.

I didn't address it because most of it is complete horseshit...and it's been covered here many many times in the past. And as far as conspiracies go, it's one of the dumbest ever. Why would the democrats kill off brown and black babies when that's a HUGE part of their voting bloc and it alone can win them most all elections if they get a good turnout?

OH LEAVE THEM ALONE! THEY ONLY KILL BABIES 4% OF THE TIME !!!

I guess the women have no say...again? Typical.

You don't slip on a banana peel and get pregnant.

(09-20-2022 01:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 12:48 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 11:24 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I didn't address it because most of it is complete horseshit...and it's been covered here many many times in the past. And as far as conspiracies go, it's one of the dumbest ever. Why would the democrats kill off brown and black babies when that's a HUGE part of their voting bloc and it alone can win them most all elections if they get a good turnout?

Man, you are historically illiterate. This is well documented and no conspiracy.

But continue to tell us how you 'schooled' other posters.

Yeah, no, wrong again. Consider this a schooling.

Quote:Historians and scholars who’ve examined Sanger’s correspondence, as Salon reported in 2011, challenge those who call the activist racist.

Much of the controversy stems from a 1939 letter in which Sanger outlined her plan to reach out to black leaders — specifically ministers — to help dispel community suspicions about the family planning clinics she was opening in the South.

“We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members,” she wrote. It was, as the Washington Post called it, an “inartfully written” sentence, but one that, in context, describes the sort of preposterous allegations she feared — not her actual mission. The irony is that it has been used to propagate those very allegations. Cruz’s letter to the director of the National Portrait Gallery, for example, quotes only the first half of the sentence.

Sanger’s stated mission was to empower women to make their own reproductive choices. She did focus her efforts on minority communities, because that was where, due to poverty and limited access to health care, women were especially vulnerable to the effects of unplanned pregnancy. As she framed it, birth control was the fundamental women’s rights issue. “Enforced motherhood,” she wrote in 1914, “is the most complete denial of a woman’s right to life and liberty.”

That’s not to say that Sanger didn’t also make some deeply disturbing statements in support of eugenics, the now-discredited movement to improve the overall health and fitness of humankind through selective breeding. She did, and very publicly. In a 1921 article, she wrote that, “the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective.”

She was, of course, not alone in this viewpoint: In the 1920s and 1930s, eugenics enjoyed widespread support from mainstream doctors, scientists and the general public. Planned Parenthood officials are quick to note that, despite her thoughts on the idea in general, Sanger “uniformly repudiated the racist exploitation of eugenics principles.”

In 1966, Martin Luther King Jr. made clear that he agreed that Sanger’s life’s work was anything but inhumane. In 1966, when King received Planned Parenthood’s Margaret Sanger Award in Human Rights, he praised her contributions to the black community. “There is a striking kinship between our movement and Margaret Sanger’s early efforts,” he said. “…Margaret Sanger had to commit what was then called a crime in order to enrich humanity, and today we honor her courage and vision.”

What Margaret Sanger Really Said About Eugenics and Race

Also RedTom failed to mention that it was Dr. King's wife that made those comments on behalf of him

He never made those comments himself
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/planne...nce-speech

Also if you read the speech, he talked about family planning, which i would equate to pregnancy prevention versus pregnancy abortion.

(09-20-2022 11:57 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 09:58 AM)gdunn Wrote:  AGAIN... If you're getting $15 million from taxpayers, but you can donate a cool $1 million to a political PAC, you shouldn't be receiving government funds. It's not that hard Tom.

As long as you are cool with removing all the pharmaceutical companies from donating then. And defense contractors, let alone anyone who gets money for research from the gov't.... slippery slope there.

That's a great idea. Been saying that myself for years.

No candidate or office holder can receive $$$ from PACs or lobbyists -- ever -- before, during or after office.

And the same goes for candidate's/office holder's family members. They can never work for PAC/lobbyist or take $$$ from them.


Oh, and none of them should be able to buy stocks due to potential insider trading.

(09-20-2022 09:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  https://www.plannedparenthood.org/upload...igital.pdf

4% of their services were abortions. Additionally, nonprofits use fund accounting. Their income is segregated. They don't use any government funds to provide abortions.

And here's some of the other services they provided:

3,744,804 STI Tests
672,651 HIV Tests
1,546,911 Contraception Consultations
505,855 Contraception Kits
2,297 Vasectomies
138,093 Other Contraceptive Services
173,653 Breast Cancer Screenings
198,102 Pap Tests
13,138 Colposcopy Procedures
1,940 Adoption Referrals
45,681 UTI Treatments

Any many more...but by all means...defund them. I'm sure the black and brown people you pretend to care about can easily find and pay for these things elsewhere.

That's called "cover" Tom. Their bread and butter is doing abortions. Hilarious they do 500K abortions a year and 1,940 adoption referrals. But I am not going to raise a stink because they abort so many future dem voters and violent criminals oh well.

(09-20-2022 03:13 PM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 09:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  https://www.plannedparenthood.org/upload...igital.pdf

4% of their services were abortions. Additionally, nonprofits use fund accounting. Their income is segregated. They don't use any government funds to provide abortions.

And here's some of the other services they provided:

3,744,804 STI Tests
672,651 HIV Tests
1,546,911 Contraception Consultations
505,855 Contraception Kits
2,297 Vasectomies
138,093 Other Contraceptive Services
173,653 Breast Cancer Screenings
198,102 Pap Tests
13,138 Colposcopy Procedures
1,940 Adoption Referrals
45,681 UTI Treatments

Any many more...but by all means...defund them. I'm sure the black and brown people you pretend to care about can easily find and pay for these things elsewhere.

That's called "cover" Tom. Their bread and butter is doing abortions. Hilarious they do 500K abortions a year and 1,940 adoption referrals. But I am not going to raise a stink because they abort so many future dem voters and violent criminals oh well.

RWT forgot to include transgender hormone therapy...

Quote:Transgender Hormone Therapy in Memphis, TN
Memphis Health Center near Summer and I240 offers the following services specifically for clients who need Transgender Hormone Therapy:

We now offer telehealth Hormone Replacement Therapy appointments for patients 18 years and older. Our Tennessee-licensed providers may see patients from anywhere in the state, as long as the patient is in Tennessee. We are scheduling these virtual visits through our Nashville health center. Please go to the Nashville location to book a telehealth appointment online or call us at (866) 711-1717.

I'm sorry, but any group that promotes the killing of the unborn is immoral.

(09-20-2022 03:33 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 03:13 PM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 09:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  https://www.plannedparenthood.org/upload...igital.pdf

4% of their services were abortions. Additionally, nonprofits use fund accounting. Their income is segregated. They don't use any government funds to provide abortions.

And here's some of the other services they provided:

3,744,804 STI Tests
672,651 HIV Tests
1,546,911 Contraception Consultations
505,855 Contraception Kits
2,297 Vasectomies
138,093 Other Contraceptive Services
173,653 Breast Cancer Screenings
198,102 Pap Tests
13,138 Colposcopy Procedures
1,940 Adoption Referrals
45,681 UTI Treatments

Any many more...but by all means...defund them. I'm sure the black and brown people you pretend to care about can easily find and pay for these things elsewhere.

That's called "cover" Tom. Their bread and butter is doing abortions. Hilarious they do 500K abortions a year and 1,940 adoption referrals. But I am not going to raise a stink because they abort so many future dem voters and violent criminals oh well.

RWT forgot to include transgender hormone therapy...

Quote:Transgender Hormone Therapy in Memphis, TN
Memphis Health Center near Summer and I240 offers the following services specifically for clients who need Transgender Hormone Therapy:

We now offer telehealth Hormone Replacement Therapy appointments for patients 18 years and older. Our Tennessee-licensed providers may see patients from anywhere in the state, as long as the patient is in Tennessee. We are scheduling these virtual visits through our Nashville health center. Please go to the Nashville location to book a telehealth appointment online or call us at (866) 711-1717.

I could hit a golf ball to both Summer and i240 from my childhood home.

It's now the hood and it's an absolute fact they set up shop in said hoods, not to help a single person.... but to help their bottom line.

ITS.THEIR.BUSINESS.MODEL.

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(09-20-2022 02:48 PM)solohawks Wrote:  From RedTom's article...direct quote from the eugenist

“We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members,”

She didn't even deny it, she just said she didn't want that to be her reputation.

If you're out to exterminate babies of a particular race, you usually don't proclaim your stated goal to the people of that race.

The fact she had to fight that notion right off the bat speaks louder than any white washed writeup

Yeah, and?

She is saying that this is NOT her intention and that if lies are told that it is, it would cause harm to what she's trying to do...so she's asking ministers to help.

(09-20-2022 02:53 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  That's a great idea. Been saying that myself for years.

No candidate or office holder can receive $$$ from PACs or lobbyists -- ever -- before, during or after office.

And the same goes for candidate's/office holder's family members. They can never work for PAC/lobbyist or take $$$ from them.


Oh, and none of them should be able to buy stocks due to potential insider trading.

Neither party wants to follow that. I would love to remove lobbying, but the laws are written by the same people who benefit from it.

(09-20-2022 04:43 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 03:33 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 03:13 PM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 09:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  https://www.plannedparenthood.org/upload...igital.pdf

4% of their services were abortions. Additionally, nonprofits use fund accounting. Their income is segregated. They don't use any government funds to provide abortions.

And here's some of the other services they provided:

3,744,804 STI Tests
672,651 HIV Tests
1,546,911 Contraception Consultations
505,855 Contraception Kits
2,297 Vasectomies
138,093 Other Contraceptive Services
173,653 Breast Cancer Screenings
198,102 Pap Tests
13,138 Colposcopy Procedures
1,940 Adoption Referrals
45,681 UTI Treatments

Any many more...but by all means...defund them. I'm sure the black and brown people you pretend to care about can easily find and pay for these things elsewhere.

That's called "cover" Tom. Their bread and butter is doing abortions. Hilarious they do 500K abortions a year and 1,940 adoption referrals. But I am not going to raise a stink because they abort so many future dem voters and violent criminals oh well.

RWT forgot to include transgender hormone therapy...

Quote:Transgender Hormone Therapy in Memphis, TN
Memphis Health Center near Summer and I240 offers the following services specifically for clients who need Transgender Hormone Therapy:

We now offer telehealth Hormone Replacement Therapy appointments for patients 18 years and older. Our Tennessee-licensed providers may see patients from anywhere in the state, as long as the patient is in Tennessee. We are scheduling these virtual visits through our Nashville health center. Please go to the Nashville location to book a telehealth appointment online or call us at (866) 711-1717.

I could hit a golf ball to both Summer and i240 from my childhood home.

It's now the hood and it's an absolute fact they set up shop in said hoods, not to help a single person.... but to help their bottom line.

ITS.THEIR.BUSINESS.MODEL.

Sent from my SM-F721U using Tapatalk

This is true... they planted their center right in their demographic. And a stone's throw from I-40/I-240 and a bus stop to make sure it's easy to get to.

(09-21-2022 09:42 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 02:53 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  That's a great idea. Been saying that myself for years.

No candidate or office holder can receive $$$ from PACs or lobbyists -- ever -- before, during or after office.

And the same goes for candidate's/office holder's family members. They can never work for PAC/lobbyist or take $$$ from them.


Oh, and none of them should be able to buy stocks due to potential insider trading.

Neither party wants to follow that. I would love to remove lobbying, but the laws are written by the same people who benefit from it.

I get it. But that's what I would do if I was Dictator.

(09-21-2022 09:46 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 04:43 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 03:33 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 03:13 PM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 09:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  https://www.plannedparenthood.org/upload...igital.pdf

4% of their services were abortions. Additionally, nonprofits use fund accounting. Their income is segregated. They don't use any government funds to provide abortions.

And here's some of the other services they provided:

3,744,804 STI Tests
672,651 HIV Tests
1,546,911 Contraception Consultations
505,855 Contraception Kits
2,297 Vasectomies
138,093 Other Contraceptive Services
173,653 Breast Cancer Screenings
198,102 Pap Tests
13,138 Colposcopy Procedures
1,940 Adoption Referrals
45,681 UTI Treatments

Any many more...but by all means...defund them. I'm sure the black and brown people you pretend to care about can easily find and pay for these things elsewhere.

That's called "cover" Tom. Their bread and butter is doing abortions. Hilarious they do 500K abortions a year and 1,940 adoption referrals. But I am not going to raise a stink because they abort so many future dem voters and violent criminals oh well.

RWT forgot to include transgender hormone therapy...

Quote:Transgender Hormone Therapy in Memphis, TN
Memphis Health Center near Summer and I240 offers the following services specifically for clients who need Transgender Hormone Therapy:

We now offer telehealth Hormone Replacement Therapy appointments for patients 18 years and older. Our Tennessee-licensed providers may see patients from anywhere in the state, as long as the patient is in Tennessee. We are scheduling these virtual visits through our Nashville health center. Please go to the Nashville location to book a telehealth appointment online or call us at (866) 711-1717.

I could hit a golf ball to both Summer and i240 from my childhood home.

It's now the hood and it's an absolute fact they set up shop in said hoods, not to help a single person.... but to help their bottom line.

ITS.THEIR.BUSINESS.MODEL.

Sent from my SM-F721U using Tapatalk

This is true... they planted their center right in their demographic. And a stone's throw from I-40/I-240 and a bus stop to make sure it's easy to get to.

Wait, so you mean they put their clinic closest to where it was needed? Interesting business model. Perhaps corporate America should follow the brilliant minds at PP?

(09-21-2022 06:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 02:48 PM)solohawks Wrote:  From RedTom's article...direct quote from the eugenist

“We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members,”

She didn't even deny it, she just said she didn't want that to be her reputation.

If you're out to exterminate babies of a particular race, you usually don't proclaim your stated goal to the people of that race.

The fact she had to fight that notion right off the bat speaks louder than any white washed writeup

Yeah, and?

She is saying that this is NOT her intention and that if lies are told that it is, it would cause harm to what she's trying to do...so she's asking ministers to help.

The Eugenist's mindset - People think Im out to kill minority babies. Can't have that. Bad for business. Let's work with these minority ministers to whitewash my image