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RE: Hoosier Daddy game prediction
Just look at Tyler Scott for example. He took visits both UC & IU, but chose to come to UC. I think that UC wins in so many categories over the lower third of the BIG 10.
 
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(09-27-2022 09:57 AM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  Just look at Tyler Scott for example. He took visits both UC & IU, but chose to come to UC. I think that UC wins in so many categories over the lower third of the BIG 10.

Clearly, Cincinnati has a competitive advantage over Indiana in football. Our much maligned AAC has enabled an excellent head coach to take this team to a NY6 bowl and the CFP the past two years. Had he coached at Indiana or Purdue, that would be far less likely.

We can now look forward to seeing what rewards we can reap inside the P5 in the B12. It may take some time to sort out a new conference hierarchy after TX and OK depart, but I'm confident with Fickell, the program he has built, and the inroads he's established into the rich OH high school recruiting world, that UC can remain a perennial contender.
 
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We will have more money, which allows us to keep better coaches, but NY6 path will be more difficult, but no more Birmingham Toilet Bowls.
 
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(09-27-2022 10:47 AM)doss2 Wrote:  We will have more money, which allows us to keep better coaches, but NY6 path will be more difficult, but no more Birmingham Toilet Bowls.

Yep, as fans we should be most excited about the B12 bowl lineup; night and day difference from the American.
 
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(09-27-2022 01:04 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  
(09-27-2022 10:47 AM)doss2 Wrote:  We will have more money, which allows us to keep better coaches, but NY6 path will be more difficult, but no more Birmingham Toilet Bowls.

Yep, as fans we should be most excited about the B12 bowl lineup; night and day difference from the American.

Big12

1. Sugar Bowl vs. SEC
Big 12 Champion goes here if not in the College Football Playoff, or highest-ranked Big 12 team
2. Valero Alamo Bowl vs. Pac-12
3. Cheez-It Bowl vs. ACC
4. Mercari Texas Bowl vs. SEC
5. AutoZone Liberty Bowl vs. SEC
6. Guaranteed Rate Bowl vs. Big Ten
Potential other matchups
– Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl vs. C-USA, Pac-12, or Army
– SERVPRO First Responder Bowl vs. ACC, American Athletic, or Pac-12


The American Athletic will get teams in these bowl slots …
– Fenway Bowl vs. ACC Cold in December YUCK!
– Military Bowl vs. ACC (2021, 2023, 2025) Not 2022
– SoFi Hawaii Bowl vs. Mountain West Too far on Christmas Eve
The AAC will get a chance at putting four teams in these bowls …
– Cure Bowl vs. Group of Five or Army YUCK
– Myrtle Beach Bowl vs. MAC or Sun Belt Yuck
– RoofClaim.com Boca Raton Bowl vs. Group of Five or Army Yuck
– SERVPRO First Responder Bowl vs. ACC, Big 12, or Pac-12
– TicketSmarter Birmingham Bowl vs. SEC At least it is a new stadium
– Tropical Smoothie Cafe Frisco Bowl vs. Group of Five or Army Yuck
– Union Home Mortgage Gasparilla Bowl vs. ACC, Pac-12, or SEC
Also in the affiliation mix going forward …
– Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl (2020, 2022, 2024)
 
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(09-25-2022 10:46 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(09-25-2022 09:42 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Don't want to hijack the game thread so I'll post this here. I can't say enough how proud I am of my fellow Bearcat fans. I had a group of IU alum with me all day tailgating, during the game, post game, and not ONE ill-willed, mean spirited, or foul thing was directed at them. Even had a few fans come up to them and offer a few kind words and welcome them to the Nip. Which BTW, they LOVED Nippert Stadium. They commented how they were impressed how full the stands were at the end of the 3rd qtr, and said if they were at IU half the fans usually leave at halftime, win or lose. They were definitely jealous of the whole environment. Kudos Bearcat fans!

I was sitting next to a group of 4 IU fans. As they walked in the guy said “wow, I guess I was wrong about how many people would be here.”

They were pretty cool, I really did not have a lot of interaction but the same guy did say to me he thought Nippert was a cool environment.

It's funny, fans from afar will simply proclaim it too small. I'll go on record to say that a bigger problem in '22 are stadia that are "too big". IU is a good example. Didn't we help Indiana set an attendance record for a non-conference game last season? I've always been told there are thousands of empty seats there unless the hoards arrive from Columbus alternate years with OSU. There is no way Indiana can create the game day atmosphere we experienced yesterday. Thankfully, we had recruits from this region feeling the love too. What 18 year old wouldn't want to play in the Red and Black in the Nipp?

The energy level inside Nippert is phenomenal. A late afternoon or evening game is like a co-ed prison riot. A perfect example is at PITT in between the third and fourth quarter they play Sweet Caroline, at Nippert they play The Beastie Boys" You gotta fight for your right to party". Even the old guys are acting like they're at the club. Of course winning 29 straight and a great coach like Fick make it all possible. If they could somehow shoehorn another 2 or 3 thousand seats in the corners of the north endzone to get to 40K Nippert would be absolutely beyond perfect.......
 
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The only sellouts IU normally has in football are against O$U and maybe a Purdue game if they're both decent.

They used to come close when the still had UK coming in but they stupidly don't play anymore. Both schools would rather play MAC or FCS games instead.
 
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(09-28-2022 10:38 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  The only sellouts IU normally has in football are against O$U and maybe a Purdue game if they're both decent.

They used to come close when the still had UK coming in but they stupidly don't play anymore. Both schools would rather play MAC or FCS games instead.

That's probably smart on both schools part at this point. With the money they get from their conf payouts they are probably far more concerned with avoiding an L than getting another 10K or 20K butts in the stadium. Neither team has been in a spot to jockey for a CFP spot where SOS is important but until recently, being and staying bowl eligible or getting to a "better" bowl has been a consistent concern
 
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(09-28-2022 12:17 PM)Cal1362 Wrote:  
(09-28-2022 10:38 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  The only sellouts IU normally has in football are against O$U and maybe a Purdue game if they're both decent.

They used to come close when the still had UK coming in but they stupidly don't play anymore. Both schools would rather play MAC or FCS games instead.

That's probably smart on both schools part at this point. With the money they get from their conf payouts they are probably far more concerned with avoiding an L than getting another 10K or 20K butts in the stadium. Neither team has been in a spot to jockey for a CFP spot where SOS is important but until recently, being and staying bowl eligible or getting to a "better" bowl has been a consistent concern

All true. And I don't expect Coach Tom Allen to ever want to extend the UC series after being drubbed by double digits home and away. It's kind of a shame because it's a fun regional opponent and could be a B10 vs. B12 matchup for at least a few more games into the future. On the bright side, I don't mind if I never have to drive to Bloomington again. If I do, I'll make sure to sneak some bottled water into the stadium.
 
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(09-28-2022 12:21 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  
(09-28-2022 12:17 PM)Cal1362 Wrote:  
(09-28-2022 10:38 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  The only sellouts IU normally has in football are against O$U and maybe a Purdue game if they're both decent.

They used to come close when the still had UK coming in but they stupidly don't play anymore. Both schools would rather play MAC or FCS games instead.

That's probably smart on both schools part at this point. With the money they get from their conf payouts they are probably far more concerned with avoiding an L than getting another 10K or 20K butts in the stadium. Neither team has been in a spot to jockey for a CFP spot where SOS is important but until recently, being and staying bowl eligible or getting to a "better" bowl has been a consistent concern

All true. And I don't expect Coach Tom Allen to ever want to extend the UC series after being drubbed by double digits home and away. It's kind of a shame because it's a fun regional opponent and could be a B10 vs. B12 matchup for at least a few more games into the future. On the bright side, I don't mind if I never have to drive to Bloomington again. If I do, I'll make sure to sneak some bottled water into the stadium.

Agreed... which is yet another under appreciated benefit of moving to the Big XII... P5 schools, especially middle tier and up ones were not going to continue to schedule UC and definitely wouldn't schedule them home and home as a G5 opponent. Way too much risk, not enough reward. Look at ND last year - if UC hadn't run the table and finished in the top 10, that "loss to a quality G5" would have completely wrecked their chance at a CFP spot. Losing to a mid to upper tier P5 school however has a lot less stigma attached. Even with the expanded playoff, that distinction/perception may have an impact on OOC scheduling
 
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(09-28-2022 12:21 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  
(09-28-2022 12:17 PM)Cal1362 Wrote:  
(09-28-2022 10:38 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  The only sellouts IU normally has in football are against O$U and maybe a Purdue game if they're both decent.

They used to come close when the still had UK coming in but they stupidly don't play anymore. Both schools would rather play MAC or FCS games instead.

That's probably smart on both schools part at this point. With the money they get from their conf payouts they are probably far more concerned with avoiding an L than getting another 10K or 20K butts in the stadium. Neither team has been in a spot to jockey for a CFP spot where SOS is important but until recently, being and staying bowl eligible or getting to a "better" bowl has been a consistent concern

All true. And I don't expect Coach Tom Allen to ever want to extend the UC series after being drubbed by double digits home and away. It's kind of a shame because it's a fun regional opponent and could be a B10 vs. B12 matchup for at least a few more games into the future. On the bright side, I don't mind if I never have to drive to Bloomington again. If I do, I'll make sure to sneak some bottled water into the stadium.

UC's next P5 opening in the OOC schedule is for 2028 and 2029. The PAC12 will likely not exist anymore by then so it will have to come from the B10, SEC or ACC. Schools with openings in those two years include (I discounted schools unlikely to schedule a home and home with us and who have at least 2 P5 games OOC already scheduled:

ACC- Syracuse, Duke, Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Pitt

B10- Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Indiana, Maryland, Michigan State, Rutgers

SEC- Arkansas, Mississippi State, Vandy
 
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(09-28-2022 12:49 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(09-28-2022 12:21 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  
(09-28-2022 12:17 PM)Cal1362 Wrote:  
(09-28-2022 10:38 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  The only sellouts IU normally has in football are against O$U and maybe a Purdue game if they're both decent.

They used to come close when the still had UK coming in but they stupidly don't play anymore. Both schools would rather play MAC or FCS games instead.

That's probably smart on both schools part at this point. With the money they get from their conf payouts they are probably far more concerned with avoiding an L than getting another 10K or 20K butts in the stadium. Neither team has been in a spot to jockey for a CFP spot where SOS is important but until recently, being and staying bowl eligible or getting to a "better" bowl has been a consistent concern

All true. And I don't expect Coach Tom Allen to ever want to extend the UC series after being drubbed by double digits home and away. It's kind of a shame because it's a fun regional opponent and could be a B10 vs. B12 matchup for at least a few more games into the future. On the bright side, I don't mind if I never have to drive to Bloomington again. If I do, I'll make sure to sneak some bottled water into the stadium.

UC's next P5 opening in the OOC schedule is for 2028 and 2029. The PAC12 will likely not exist anymore by then so it will have to come from the B10, SEC or ACC. Schools with openings in those two years include (I discounted schools unlikely to schedule a home and home with us and who have at least 2 P5 games OOC already scheduled:

ACC- Syracuse, Duke, Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Pitt

B10- Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Indiana, Maryland, Michigan State, Rutgers

SEC- Arkansas, Mississippi State, Vandy

Indiana certainly grossed more revenue with UC in their stadium than ever before for a non-conference game (especially selling tap water in plastic cups for $7 in the second half, LOL). I'm not sure of the overall financial arrangement though contrasted with bringing in an FCS team.

The point is, if IU doesn't win another game this year, Indiana's next coach may be open to some games again in the near future. Their A.D. and fans may want none of that though--they've already depleted their inventory of excuses for the losses.
 
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If the Big 12 is playing 9 conference games, we already have 9 P5 schools on the schedule. We really don't need another, though I would prefer one.
 
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