(09-24-2022 09:42 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(09-22-2022 06:15 PM)Lynchpin Wrote:  I would definitely sit Lombardi if he is not essentially 100% which I can’t imagine he is… even best case.

Little excitement for watching Hampton. It’s crazy if he is the pocket passer backup and we go dink and dunks. Not really sure what he is capable of, but has not shown playmakiing spark in his 1.5 games.

Too early count the kid out of course, but Saturday is going to be mega ugly.

Considering the WMU game and the Vandy game, I’m not excited at all. I’m ready to move on to Justin if that’s what we are relegated to…

Did anyone calling for lynch actually watch him last season? Honest question.

Let me tell you about him - he can’t pass. He can throw short passes, and complete them, at a relatively poor clip considering how “safe” his passes were.

In fact let’s compare both guys vs Tulsa:

Baby Lynch: 23 of 38 for 171 and 1 TD and 1 INT
Hampton: 12 of 19 for 124 2 TD and 1 INT

You guys have to be kidding. I saw every game Lynch was in last season, he is NOT a D1 QB at this point. He needs the redshirt. And he isn’t near Hampton’s level as a passer.

(09-24-2022 09:55 AM)Big Red Wrote:  

(09-24-2022 09:42 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(09-22-2022 06:15 PM)Lynchpin Wrote:  I would definitely sit Lombardi if he is not essentially 100% which I can’t imagine he is… even best case.

Little excitement for watching Hampton. It’s crazy if he is the pocket passer backup and we go dink and dunks. Not really sure what he is capable of, but has not shown playmakiing spark in his 1.5 games.

Too early count the kid out of course, but Saturday is going to be mega ugly.

Considering the WMU game and the Vandy game, I’m not excited at all. I’m ready to move on to Justin if that’s what we are relegated to…

I'm not at all interested in wasting Rocky's last year, but if he's somehow out for the year (which I don't think he is but he could be if he gets hurt again and its worse), then I'd just punt this season and keep Justin on the bench.

No need to waste a redshirt on a guy for a team that can't do anything.

Bite the bullet and hold off on Justin until next year.

In this day of college football with the transfer portal and all, Im not holding back anything for the future. I feel like you play for today. Who knows what QB we might get in the portal next year? You could lose Rudolph to the portal next season and it won't matter who the QB is with no Tucker or Rudolph. If Lynch is the best option I play him now.

Would love to see Lynch in action if Lombardi is out.

(09-24-2022 10:14 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(09-24-2022 09:42 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(09-22-2022 06:15 PM)Lynchpin Wrote:  I would definitely sit Lombardi if he is not essentially 100% which I can’t imagine he is… even best case.

Little excitement for watching Hampton. It’s crazy if he is the pocket passer backup and we go dink and dunks. Not really sure what he is capable of, but has not shown playmakiing spark in his 1.5 games.

Too early count the kid out of course, but Saturday is going to be mega ugly.

Considering the WMU game and the Vandy game, I’m not excited at all. I’m ready to move on to Justin if that’s what we are relegated to…

Did anyone calling for lynch actually watch him last season? Honest question.

Let me tell you about him - he can’t pass. He can throw short passes, and complete them, at a relatively poor clip considering how “safe” his passes were.

In fact let’s compare both guys vs Tulsa:

Baby Lynch: 23 of 38 for 171 and 1 TD and 1 INT
Hampton: 12 of 19 for 124 2 TD and 1 INT

You guys have to be kidding. I saw every game Lynch was in last season, he is NOT a D1 QB at this point. He needs the redshirt. And he isn’t near Hampton’s level as a passer.

BigChilla,

Thanks for opinion on Lynch. I agree. Playing QB is hard. Having the physical traits is only 1 part. Need the mental part also.

I am not 1 to believe that Lynch is automatically the team's next QB.




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I am not expecting Rocky to play tonight.

Rumor has it that his injury is not season ending but he may not play at Ball St.

Hopefully Hampton uses this game as a tuneup for Balls tate.

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(09-24-2022 10:14 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(09-24-2022 09:42 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(09-22-2022 06:15 PM)Lynchpin Wrote:  I would definitely sit Lombardi if he is not essentially 100% which I can’t imagine he is… even best case.

Little excitement for watching Hampton. It’s crazy if he is the pocket passer backup and we go dink and dunks. Not really sure what he is capable of, but has not shown playmakiing spark in his 1.5 games.

Too early count the kid out of course, but Saturday is going to be mega ugly.

Considering the WMU game and the Vandy game, I’m not excited at all. I’m ready to move on to Justin if that’s what we are relegated to…

Did anyone calling for lynch actually watch him last season? Honest question.

Let me tell you about him - he can’t pass. He can throw short passes, and complete them, at a relatively poor clip considering how “safe” his passes were.

In fact let’s compare both guys vs Tulsa:

Baby Lynch: 23 of 38 for 171 and 1 TD and 1 INT
Hampton: 12 of 19 for 124 2 TD and 1 INT

You guys have to be kidding. I saw every game Lynch was in last season, he is NOT a D1 QB at this point. He needs the redshirt. And he isn’t near Hampton’s level as a passer.

Be real though, 75 yards for Hampton came on one 5 yard pass. After that he was very ineffective. Minus that one pass Hampton is 15-29 for 70 yards passing with -4 yds rushing. If Lynch isn’t near 15-29 for 70 yards he shouldn’t even be playing football.

It’s the running option that is going to make Lynch more effective than Hamton today. Hampton may only throw for 90 yards today and unless some kind of light witch pops on in his head

Play Rocky if he is healthy enough.. life is too short. Some of you need to take the plastic off the sofa and lampshades.

(09-24-2022 11:53 AM)Teamduh Wrote:  I am not expecting Rocky to play tonight.

Rumor has it that his injury is not season ending but he may not play at Ball St.

Hopefully Hampton uses this game as a tuneup for Balls tate.

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I wouldn’t play him one way or another.

With the defense we have they are going to stomp NIU tonight. If we lose by 3 td or less I’ll consider that a good game. 1-3 might be the wake up call hammock needs that his defense needs a change.

Fletcher is interesting too. He was a fairly highly rated recruit and looked like an athlete when he was getting some plays his freshman year.

Hear next to nothing about him buried on depth chart now. Must not be developing passing wise.

With how they handled him in the WMU game, I would still be surprised if he plays tonight

(09-24-2022 12:41 PM)Lynchpin Wrote:  Fletcher is interesting too. He was a fairly highly rated recruit and looked like an athlete when he was getting some plays his freshman year.

Hear next to nothing about him buried on depth chart now. Must not be developing passing wise.

Fletcher struggles mightily in the pass game. But the dude can run the heck out of the ball. If we ran the option he’d be great.

(09-24-2022 10:14 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(09-24-2022 09:42 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(09-22-2022 06:15 PM)Lynchpin Wrote:  I would definitely sit Lombardi if he is not essentially 100% which I can’t imagine he is… even best case.

Little excitement for watching Hampton. It’s crazy if he is the pocket passer backup and we go dink and dunks. Not really sure what he is capable of, but has not shown playmakiing spark in his 1.5 games.

Too early count the kid out of course, but Saturday is going to be mega ugly.

Considering the WMU game and the Vandy game, I’m not excited at all. I’m ready to move on to Justin if that’s what we are relegated to…

Did anyone calling for lynch actually watch him last season? Honest question.

Let me tell you about him - he can’t pass. He can throw short passes, and complete them, at a relatively poor clip considering how “safe” his passes were.

In fact let’s compare both guys vs Tulsa:

Baby Lynch: 23 of 38 for 171 and 1 TD and 1 INT
Hampton: 12 of 19 for 124 2 TD and 1 INT

You guys have to be kidding. I saw every game Lynch was in last season, he is NOT a D1 QB at this point. He needs the redshirt. And he isn’t near Hampton’s level as a passer.

I’ve watched Justin in mop up duty at Temple. Yes, his passing was questionable but his scrambling and run threat opened things up. I’m eager to see his progress as a passer unless our coaches suck at developing the QB. Rocky developed nicely last year so I’m hoping the same for Justin.

(09-24-2022 12:56 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(09-24-2022 10:14 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(09-24-2022 09:42 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(09-22-2022 06:15 PM)Lynchpin Wrote:  I would definitely sit Lombardi if he is not essentially 100% which I can’t imagine he is… even best case.

Little excitement for watching Hampton. It’s crazy if he is the pocket passer backup and we go dink and dunks. Not really sure what he is capable of, but has not shown playmakiing spark in his 1.5 games.

Too early count the kid out of course, but Saturday is going to be mega ugly.

Considering the WMU game and the Vandy game, I’m not excited at all. I’m ready to move on to Justin if that’s what we are relegated to…

Did anyone calling for lynch actually watch him last season? Honest question.

Let me tell you about him - he can’t pass. He can throw short passes, and complete them, at a relatively poor clip considering how “safe” his passes were.

In fact let’s compare both guys vs Tulsa:

Baby Lynch: 23 of 38 for 171 and 1 TD and 1 INT
Hampton: 12 of 19 for 124 2 TD and 1 INT

You guys have to be kidding. I saw every game Lynch was in last season, he is NOT a D1 QB at this point. He needs the redshirt. And he isn’t near Hampton’s level as a passer.

I’ve watched Justin in mop up duty at Temple. Yes, his passing was questionable but his scrambling and run threat opened things up. I’m eager to see his progress as a passer unless our coaches suck at developing the QB. Rocky developed nicely last year so I’m hoping the same for Justin.

Let’s not forget he was a true freshman last year and he was playing in that garbage system of Urimovich.

In Lynch’s first two starts (before the wheels fell off and the team realized Carey sucks ). Justine went:

36-47, 416 yards, 2yd, 0 int
60 yds rushing

(09-24-2022 12:02 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(09-24-2022 10:14 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(09-24-2022 09:42 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(09-22-2022 06:15 PM)Lynchpin Wrote:  I would definitely sit Lombardi if he is not essentially 100% which I can’t imagine he is… even best case.

Little excitement for watching Hampton. It’s crazy if he is the pocket passer backup and we go dink and dunks. Not really sure what he is capable of, but has not shown playmakiing spark in his 1.5 games.

Too early count the kid out of course, but Saturday is going to be mega ugly.

Considering the WMU game and the Vandy game, I’m not excited at all. I’m ready to move on to Justin if that’s what we are relegated to…

Did anyone calling for lynch actually watch him last season? Honest question.

Let me tell you about him - he can’t pass. He can throw short passes, and complete them, at a relatively poor clip considering how “safe” his passes were.

In fact let’s compare both guys vs Tulsa:

Baby Lynch: 23 of 38 for 171 and 1 TD and 1 INT
Hampton: 12 of 19 for 124 2 TD and 1 INT

You guys have to be kidding. I saw every game Lynch was in last season, he is NOT a D1 QB at this point. He needs the redshirt. And he isn’t near Hampton’s level as a passer.

Be real though, 75 yards for Hampton came on one 5 yard pass. After that he was very ineffective. Minus that one pass Hampton is 15-29 for 70 yards passing with -4 yds rushing. If Lynch isn’t near 15-29 for 70 yards he shouldn’t even be playing football.

It’s the running option that is going to make Lynch more effective than Hamton today. Hampton may only throw for 90 yards today and unless some kind of light witch pops on in his head

If you take away everyone’s best plays their stats suck. That’s not an argument.

Lynch had none of those passes. He was a trash can as a passer. I say that nicely.

Also…advocating for the option be an SEC defense doesn’t feel like the best move.

(09-24-2022 01:50 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(09-24-2022 12:02 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(09-24-2022 10:14 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(09-24-2022 09:42 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(09-22-2022 06:15 PM)Lynchpin Wrote:  I would definitely sit Lombardi if he is not essentially 100% which I can’t imagine he is… even best case.

Little excitement for watching Hampton. It’s crazy if he is the pocket passer backup and we go dink and dunks. Not really sure what he is capable of, but has not shown playmakiing spark in his 1.5 games.

Too early count the kid out of course, but Saturday is going to be mega ugly.

Considering the WMU game and the Vandy game, I’m not excited at all. I’m ready to move on to Justin if that’s what we are relegated to…

Did anyone calling for lynch actually watch him last season? Honest question.

Let me tell you about him - he can’t pass. He can throw short passes, and complete them, at a relatively poor clip considering how “safe” his passes were.

In fact let’s compare both guys vs Tulsa:

Baby Lynch: 23 of 38 for 171 and 1 TD and 1 INT
Hampton: 12 of 19 for 124 2 TD and 1 INT

You guys have to be kidding. I saw every game Lynch was in last season, he is NOT a D1 QB at this point. He needs the redshirt. And he isn’t near Hampton’s level as a passer.

Be real though, 75 yards for Hampton came on one 5 yard pass. After that he was very ineffective. Minus that one pass Hampton is 15-29 for 70 yards passing with -4 yds rushing. If Lynch isn’t near 15-29 for 70 yards he shouldn’t even be playing football.

It’s the running option that is going to make Lynch more effective than Hamton today. Hampton may only throw for 90 yards today and unless some kind of light witch pops on in his head

If you take away everyone’s best plays their stats suck. That’s not an argument.

Lynch had none of those passes. He was a trash can as a passer. I say that nicely.

Also…advocating for the option be an SEC defense doesn’t feel like the best move.

It’s not the option, it’s breaking the pocket when it collapses. So what do you see in Hamptons’s 15-30 passing that intrigues you? And what is it about Justin’s 36-47 that you dislike so much? You have to admit Justin was in a terrible system.

I can take away Hamptons best play because we are talking about his ability to throw more than 5 yards. His yards per attempt is 2.9 without that pass. That’s what I’m concerned about. Those other 29 attempts that produced nothing. What’s the stat for that? Air yards or something? His air yards might be measured in feet, not yards.

Hampton nice QB but if he is the future of NIU I will jump off the bandwagon expecting to go to Detroit in December.

I have no doubt that the statement about Rocky starting today being a game time decision is BS. It sounds like its possible Rocky could be out for 1 or more MAC games. As I said before, with our D we will need to score 35 + points to win MAC games. Whichever QB gives us the best chance to score that many points is who we need to go with. If its a question about which QB that is let's see both QBs today (like a different QB in each half) to see which one is more effective in a game. It seems clear that Hampton is one of the QBs in the running. Whether the other is Lomax, Fletcher or Justin Lynch let's see what he's got. If its Justin Lynch and Rocky is out for more than 4 games then we'll have to burn his redshirt.

(09-24-2022 03:41 PM)NILAW Wrote:  I have no doubt that the statement about Rocky starting today being a game time decision is BS. It sounds like its possible Rocky could be out for 1 or more MAC games. As I said before, with our D we will need to score 35 + points to win MAC games. Whichever QB gives us the best chance to score that many points is who we need to go with. If its a question about which QB that is let's see both QBs today (like a different QB in each half) to see which one is more effective in a game. It seems clear that Hampton is one of the QBs in the running. Whether the other is Lomax, Fletcher or Justin Lynch let's see what he's got. If its Justin Lynch and Rocky is out for more than 4 games then we'll have to burn his redshirt.

You know how that goes, if you have 3 back-ups you have no back ups. I do think we will see one other QB get in the game today. If they keep Hampton in that -caution first- mode we may struggle to get more than a couple first downs in the half. But so far Hammock has done things backwards as far as the offense. He will be cautious when everyone knows we are going cautious, early in the game. And then he will go down field when everyone knows we have to go downfield, when we’re 3 scores down. Open it up early and give yourself a chance.

That’s way too much game preparation and planning. I don’t know if our coaches have it in them. They can barely coach an entire half the whole season. They need a day off…

He’s officially not playing