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RE: For all of you that said "No Way" we keep the same $$$$.
(09-20-2022 07:04 PM)bluebacker Wrote: Maybe the Tigers will be in either the b12 or the ACC and none of this will matter?
I hope so. The school will be missing out on a lot of money if we are stuck in the AAC the entire length of the contract.
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RE: For all of you that said "No Way" we keep the same $$$$.
It would have been nice for the conference to get an increase, but what else could have been done? Who had the upper hand? No, it's nothing to throw a parade over BUT beats the alternative in my opinion.
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RE: For all of you that said "No Way" we keep the same $$$$.
(09-21-2022 01:02 PM)Tiger46 Wrote: Are we the flagship now?
Sure, until the next UCF passes the Tigers and whatever the new excuse for being left behind is rolled out. It was geography the first time, this time it was Texas legislature politics getting Houston in, wonder what is next?
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RE: For all of you that said "No Way" we keep the same $$$$.
(09-21-2022 10:26 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: (09-21-2022 10:16 AM)Stammers Wrote: (09-21-2022 10:13 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote: (09-21-2022 10:08 AM)Stammers Wrote: (09-20-2022 02:56 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: Maintaining status quo is losing. It’s called inflation.
Predictable response.
Does that money have the same buying power as when the deal was originally inked? If not, it’s a paycut. When inflation was under 2%, the effects were negligible. They’re not now.
If you can’t understand this, there is a place for you in the Biden administration.
So if you place an ad in the paper selling a Porsche and you bring the buyer a Ford Taurus, and he pays you the same amount, you would complain about inflation? Again, VERY predictable from you.
Bonus points for the dumb political comment.
I understand the point and not to put words in 1987’s mouth but I think his initial response is to the OP making everyone thing everything is rosey when it’s clearly not. If we don’t get to a better money conference our football program is going to suffer and suffer big time.
Context is key. Weren't you worried that they would say that the conference lost 3 of its top 4 members, tear up the contract and cut it in half? I was.
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RE: For all of you that said "No Way" we keep the same $$$$.
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RE: For all of you that said "No Way" we keep the same $$$$.
I think the car industry is beginning to reel it back in a little bit. For the past couple of years the 'chip' issue put such pressure on the available supply of new vehicles that it was - no negotiating off MSRP - it was MSRP +++ and then wait 3-6 months for your vehicle. This also caused used car prices to skyrocket.
Hopefully, things calm down soon and regress to / towards the norm....
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RE: For all of you that said "No Way" we keep the same $$$$.
(09-22-2022 08:48 AM)Stammers Wrote: (09-21-2022 10:26 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: (09-21-2022 10:16 AM)Stammers Wrote: (09-21-2022 10:13 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote: (09-21-2022 10:08 AM)Stammers Wrote: Predictable response.
Does that money have the same buying power as when the deal was originally inked? If not, it’s a paycut. When inflation was under 2%, the effects were negligible. They’re not now.
If you can’t understand this, there is a place for you in the Biden administration.
So if you place an ad in the paper selling a Porsche and you bring the buyer a Ford Taurus, and he pays you the same amount, you would complain about inflation? Again, VERY predictable from you.
Bonus points for the dumb political comment.
I understand the point and not to put words in 1987’s mouth but I think his initial response is to the OP making everyone thing everything is rosey when it’s clearly not. If we don’t get to a better money conference our football program is going to suffer and suffer big time.
Context is key. Weren't you worried that they would say that the conference lost 3 of its top 4 members, tear up the contract and cut it in half? I was.
I’m not sure they could legally do that. Maybe they could, but they also need programming for their streaming so where is can they go? Sunbelt? IDK.
(This post was last modified: 09-22-2022 09:45 AM by Eagleonpar.)
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RE: For all of you that said "No Way" we keep the same $$$$.
(09-22-2022 09:45 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: (09-22-2022 08:48 AM)Stammers Wrote: (09-21-2022 10:26 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: (09-21-2022 10:16 AM)Stammers Wrote: (09-21-2022 10:13 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote: Does that money have the same buying power as when the deal was originally inked? If not, it’s a paycut. When inflation was under 2%, the effects were negligible. They’re not now.
If you can’t understand this, there is a place for you in the Biden administration.
So if you place an ad in the paper selling a Porsche and you bring the buyer a Ford Taurus, and he pays you the same amount, you would complain about inflation? Again, VERY predictable from you.
Bonus points for the dumb political comment.
I understand the point and not to put words in 1987’s mouth but I think his initial response is to the OP making everyone thing everything is rosey when it’s clearly not. If we don’t get to a better money conference our football program is going to suffer and suffer big time.
Context is key. Weren't you worried that they would say that the conference lost 3 of its top 4 members, tear up the contract and cut it in half? I was.
I’m not sure they could legally do that. Maybe they could, but they also need programming for their streaming so where is can they go? Sunbelt? IDK.
No doubt it’s better than being cut in half, but just like wages, if the contract value remains the same, its basically a pay cut. No doubt it could be worse, but it the separation between the haves and have nots widens. Even
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RE: For all of you that said "No Way" we keep the same $$$$.
(09-22-2022 08:36 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: (09-22-2022 09:45 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: (09-22-2022 08:48 AM)Stammers Wrote: (09-21-2022 10:26 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: (09-21-2022 10:16 AM)Stammers Wrote: So if you place an ad in the paper selling a Porsche and you bring the buyer a Ford Taurus, and he pays you the same amount, you would complain about inflation? Again, VERY predictable from you.
Bonus points for the dumb political comment.
I understand the point and not to put words in 1987’s mouth but I think his initial response is to the OP making everyone thing everything is rosey when it’s clearly not. If we don’t get to a better money conference our football program is going to suffer and suffer big time.
Context is key. Weren't you worried that they would say that the conference lost 3 of its top 4 members, tear up the contract and cut it in half? I was.
I’m not sure they could legally do that. Maybe they could, but they also need programming for their streaming so where is can they go? Sunbelt? IDK.
No doubt it’s better than being cut in half, but just like wages, if the contract value remains the same, its basically a pay cut. No doubt it could be worse, but it the separation between the haves and have nots widens. Even
You could look at it like that, or like we got more money last year than the year before, Next year we will get even more money, and it will not stop going up for the next 11 years. It will go up less than it "might have otherwise", but WILL go up none the less.
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RE: For all of you that said "No Way" we keep the same $$$$.
Maybe I misread it, but what I saw was "in the same neighborhood" not the same.
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RE: For all of you that said "No Way" we keep the same $$$$.
Gotta love all these “for all of you” threads
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RE: For all of you that said "No Way" we keep the same $$$$.
(09-22-2022 08:36 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: (09-22-2022 09:45 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: (09-22-2022 08:48 AM)Stammers Wrote: (09-21-2022 10:26 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: (09-21-2022 10:16 AM)Stammers Wrote: So if you place an ad in the paper selling a Porsche and you bring the buyer a Ford Taurus, and he pays you the same amount, you would complain about inflation? Again, VERY predictable from you.
Bonus points for the dumb political comment.
I understand the point and not to put words in 1987’s mouth but I think his initial response is to the OP making everyone thing everything is rosey when it’s clearly not. If we don’t get to a better money conference our football program is going to suffer and suffer big time.
Context is key. Weren't you worried that they would say that the conference lost 3 of its top 4 members, tear up the contract and cut it in half? I was.
I’m not sure they could legally do that. Maybe they could, but they also need programming for their streaming so where is can they go? Sunbelt? IDK.
No doubt it’s better than being cut in half, but just like wages, if the contract value remains the same, its basically a pay cut. No doubt it could be worse, but it the separation between the haves and have nots widens. Even
The WORST thing about our contract is that we are the only conference dealing with inflation. Inflation hasn't had any effect on any other tv contract except ours. Talk about terrible luck.
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RE: For all of you that said "No Way" we keep the same $$$$.
(09-22-2022 08:36 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: (09-22-2022 09:45 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: (09-22-2022 08:48 AM)Stammers Wrote: (09-21-2022 10:26 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: (09-21-2022 10:16 AM)Stammers Wrote: So if you place an ad in the paper selling a Porsche and you bring the buyer a Ford Taurus, and he pays you the same amount, you would complain about inflation? Again, VERY predictable from you.
Bonus points for the dumb political comment.
I understand the point and not to put words in 1987’s mouth but I think his initial response is to the OP making everyone thing everything is rosey when it’s clearly not. If we don’t get to a better money conference our football program is going to suffer and suffer big time.
Context is key. Weren't you worried that they would say that the conference lost 3 of its top 4 members, tear up the contract and cut it in half? I was.
I’m not sure they could legally do that. Maybe they could, but they also need programming for their streaming so where is can they go? Sunbelt? IDK.
No doubt it’s better than being cut in half, but just like wages, if the contract value remains the same, its basically a pay cut. No doubt it could be worse, but it the separation between the haves and have nots widens. Even
You're comparing us to the wrong group. If you thought the AAC contract (with 3 top programs leaving) was going to NARROW the gap to the P5...then bless your heart.
The point is not the gap between have and nots - it is certainly getting worse. The point is that MANY here have been posting for us to join the MWC or the SBC - claiming their contracts will be better than the NEW AAC. They won't. Memphis will have a share that is one of the biggest in all of the G5. So, there is no reason to entertain thoughts of us leaving the AAC for some other G5 conference.
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RE: For all of you that said "No Way" we keep the same $$$$.
(09-23-2022 10:03 AM)Stammers Wrote: (09-22-2022 08:36 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: (09-22-2022 09:45 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: (09-22-2022 08:48 AM)Stammers Wrote: (09-21-2022 10:26 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: I understand the point and not to put words in 1987’s mouth but I think his initial response is to the OP making everyone thing everything is rosey when it’s clearly not. If we don’t get to a better money conference our football program is going to suffer and suffer big time.
Context is key. Weren't you worried that they would say that the conference lost 3 of its top 4 members, tear up the contract and cut it in half? I was.
I’m not sure they could legally do that. Maybe they could, but they also need programming for their streaming so where is can they go? Sunbelt? IDK.
No doubt it’s better than being cut in half, but just like wages, if the contract value remains the same, its basically a pay cut. No doubt it could be worse, but it the separation between the haves and have nots widens. Even
The WORST thing about our contract is that we are the only conference dealing with inflation. Inflation hasn't had any effect on any other tv contract except ours. Talk about terrible luck.
Yeah, the inflation argument is an odd one.
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RE: For all of you that said "No Way" we keep the same $$$$.
Well, there is some valid reasoning when you take into account the 12 year part.
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RE: For all of you that said "No Way" we keep the same $$$$.
(09-23-2022 09:06 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: Gotta love all these “for all of you” threads
I do. That's why I posted it for your simple @$$..
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