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Non-Cartel Top 20
Just looking at the CBSSports ranking of all 131 FBS programs, here is our Top Twenty:

1. Cincy (almost in the Cartel)
2. Appy State (Very Impressed)
3. Marshall (Wow. way to beat ND)
4. UTSA (Lookin' Good on the way out of CUSA)
5. Coastal Carolina (One Helluva Coach and near a Beach)
6. UCF (Biggest undergrad student Body in the South)
7. ULL (Cajuns are Ragin)
8. East Carolina (Are the Pirates actually decent this year?)
9. Liberty (But Malik Willis is with the Titans. H'mmm?)
10. Memphis (Elvis must still be in the building)
11. Old Dominion (So, while in CUSA you sucked; but Now?)
12. Tulsa (What the Hell is a Golden Hurricane?)
13 SDSU (Guess when they join the PAC they wont be a Non-Cartel program)
14. Army (Well it's Army and at least one academy has to be in our top 20)
15. UAB (Gonna miss you, Blazers)
16. Northern Illinois (Are the Huskies the Best of the MAC?)
17. South Alabama (Really?)
18. Toledo (like a Rocket!)
19. Western Kentucky ( As long as we beat your butt in HC, happy for ya!)
20.Central Michigan (Chippewas 3rd Best in the MAC.)
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(09-12-2022 12:01 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  Just looking at the CBSSports ranking of all 131 FBS programs, here is our Top Twenty:

1. Cincy (almost in the Cartel)
2. Appy State (Very Impressed)
3. Marshall (Wow. way to beat ND)
4. UTSA (Lookin' Good on the way out of CUSA)
5. Coastal Carolina (One Helluva Coach and near a Beach)
6. UCF (Biggest undergrad student Body in the South)
7. ULL (Cajuns are Ragin)
8. East Carolina (Are the Pirates actually decent this year?)
9. Liberty (But Malik Willis is with the Titans. H'mmm?)
10. Memphis (Elvis must still be in the building)
11. Old Dominion (So, while in CUSA you sucked; but Now?)
12. Tulsa (What the Hell is a Golden Hurricane?)
13 SDSU (Guess when they join the PAC they wont be a Non-Cartel program)
14. Army (Well it's Army and at least one academy has to be in our top 20)
15. UAB (Gonna miss you, Blazers)
16. Northern Illinois (Are the Huskies the Best of the MAC?)
17. South Alabama (Really?)
18. Toledo (like a Rocket!)
19. Western Kentucky ( As long as we beat your butt in HC, happy for ya!)
20.Central Michigan (Chippewas 3rd Best in the MAC.)
Houston?

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(09-12-2022 12:01 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  Just looking at the CBSSports ranking of all 131 FBS programs, here is our Top Twenty:

1. Cincy (almost in the Cartel)
2. Appy State (Very Impressed)
3. Marshall (Wow. way to beat ND)
4. UTSA (Lookin' Good on the way out of CUSA)
5. Coastal Carolina (One Helluva Coach and near a Beach)
6. UCF (Biggest undergrad student Body in the South)
7. ULL (Cajuns are Ragin)
8. East Carolina (Are the Pirates actually decent this year?)
9. Liberty (But Malik Willis is with the Titans. H'mmm?)
10. Memphis (Elvis must still be in the building)
11. Old Dominion (So, while in CUSA you sucked; but Now?)
12. Tulsa (What the Hell is a Golden Hurricane?)
13 SDSU (Guess when they join the PAC they wont be a Non-Cartel program)
14. Army (Well it's Army and at least one academy has to be in our top 20)
15. UAB (Gonna miss you, Blazers)
16. Northern Illinois (Are the Huskies the Best of the MAC?)
17. South Alabama (Really?)
18. Toledo (like a Rocket!)
19. Western Kentucky ( As long as we beat your butt in HC, happy for ya!)
20.Central Michigan (Chippewas 3rd Best in the MAC.)

Some of those are what the hell...

Tulsa loss to Wyoming who's not on the list and beat a FCS by 7
SDSA beat a fcs and loss by 18 at home to Arizona
Liberty at #8...this is not last years Liberty team and they are very lucky to not be 0-2 right now

There's a few others I have a problem with Central Michigan is 0-2 loss by 2 TD to S. Al. and Northern Illinois struggled vs FCS and loss to Tulsa. If someone asked me I would say even Western but after looking at that list at least they are 2-0 with a road FBS win.
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(09-12-2022 04:01 PM)hannibalDawg Wrote:  
(09-12-2022 12:01 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  Just looking at the CBSSports ranking of all 131 FBS programs, here is our Top Twenty:

1. Cincy (almost in the Cartel)
2. Appy State (Very Impressed)
3. Marshall (Wow. way to beat ND)
4. UTSA (Lookin' Good on the way out of CUSA)
5. Coastal Carolina (One Helluva Coach and near a Beach)
6. UCF (Biggest undergrad student Body in the South)
7. ULL (Cajuns are Ragin)
8. East Carolina (Are the Pirates actually decent this year?)
9. Liberty (But Malik Willis is with the Titans. H'mmm?)
10. Memphis (Elvis must still be in the building)
11. Old Dominion (So, while in CUSA you sucked; but Now?)
12. Tulsa (What the Hell is a Golden Hurricane?)
13 SDSU (Guess when they join the PAC they wont be a Non-Cartel program)
14. Army (Well it's Army and at least one academy has to be in our top 20)
15. UAB (Gonna miss you, Blazers)
16. Northern Illinois (Are the Huskies the Best of the MAC?)
17. South Alabama (Really?)
18. Toledo (like a Rocket!)
19. Western Kentucky ( As long as we beat your butt in HC, happy for ya!)
20.Central Michigan (Chippewas 3rd Best in the MAC.)
Houston?

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(09-12-2022 04:56 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(09-12-2022 12:01 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  Just looking at the CBSSports ranking of all 131 FBS programs, here is our Top Twenty:

1. Cincy (almost in the Cartel)
2. Appy State (Very Impressed)
3. Marshall (Wow. way to beat ND)
4. UTSA (Lookin' Good on the way out of CUSA)
5. Coastal Carolina (One Helluva Coach and near a Beach)
6. UCF (Biggest undergrad student Body in the South)
7. ULL (Cajuns are Ragin)
8. East Carolina (Are the Pirates actually decent this year?)
9. Liberty (But Malik Willis is with the Titans. H'mmm?)
10. Memphis (Elvis must still be in the building)
11. Old Dominion (So, while in CUSA you sucked; but Now?)
12. Tulsa (What the Hell is a Golden Hurricane?)
13 SDSU (Guess when they join the PAC they wont be a Non-Cartel program)
14. Army (Well it's Army and at least one academy has to be in our top 20)
15. UAB (Gonna miss you, Blazers)
16. Northern Illinois (Are the Huskies the Best of the MAC?)
17. South Alabama (Really?)
18. Toledo (like a Rocket!)
19. Western Kentucky ( As long as we beat your butt in HC, happy for ya!)
20.Central Michigan (Chippewas 3rd Best in the MAC.)

Some of those are what the hell...

Tulsa loss to Wyoming who's not on the list and beat a FCS by 7
SDSA beat a fcs and loss by 18 at home to Arizona
Liberty at #8...this is not last years Liberty team and they are very lucky to not be 0-2 right now

There's a few others I have a problem with Central Michigan is 0-2 loss by 2 TD to S. Al. and Northern Illinois struggled vs FCS and loss to Tulsa. If someone asked me I would say even Western but after looking at that list at least they are 2-0 with a road FBS win.

Regarding this is not last year's Liberty team. Yes, I know they lost Malik Willis and that is a huge loss. Kaidon Salter is not a bad replacement. The defensive line is deeper and better. The linebackers are better, and I think even the secondary is better. They got 3 or 4 transfers on the offensive line after the line was putrid last year. So I am not sure as a whole, Liberty is really worse than last year. Even at WR they have at least more depth.
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(09-12-2022 09:55 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  
(09-12-2022 04:01 PM)hannibalDawg Wrote:  
(09-12-2022 12:01 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  Just looking at the CBSSports ranking of all 131 FBS programs, here is our Top Twenty:

1. Cincy (almost in the Cartel)
2. Appy State (Very Impressed)
3. Marshall (Wow. way to beat ND)
4. UTSA (Lookin' Good on the way out of CUSA)
5. Coastal Carolina (One Helluva Coach and near a Beach)
6. UCF (Biggest undergrad student Body in the South)
7. ULL (Cajuns are Ragin)
8. East Carolina (Are the Pirates actually decent this year?)
9. Liberty (But Malik Willis is with the Titans. H'mmm?)
10. Memphis (Elvis must still be in the building)
11. Old Dominion (So, while in CUSA you sucked; but Now?)
12. Tulsa (What the Hell is a Golden Hurricane?)
13 SDSU (Guess when they join the PAC they wont be a Non-Cartel program)
14. Army (Well it's Army and at least one academy has to be in our top 20)
15. UAB (Gonna miss you, Blazers)
16. Northern Illinois (Are the Huskies the Best of the MAC?)
17. South Alabama (Really?)
18. Toledo (like a Rocket!)
19. Western Kentucky ( As long as we beat your butt in HC, happy for ya!)
20.Central Michigan (Chippewas 3rd Best in the MAC.)
Houston?

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It's behind a paywall. How do they rank in your top 20? Who's knocked out for them?

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RE: Non-Cartel Top 20
Updated thru September 19

1. Appy State (swapped with Cincy)
2. Cincy
3. Tulane (Are ya kiddin?)
4. Fresno State ( Are ya Kiddin, Jr. ?)
5. Coastal Carolina (swapped w/UTSA)
6. UTSA
7. SMU (are ya Kiddin, III?)
8. Marshall (fell from 3rd)
9. Houston (I overlooked em last week)
10. UCF (Stumble a bit)
11. Air Force Academy (Are ya Kiddin,IV?)
12. Boise State
13. East Carolina (dropped from 8)
14. Liberty
15. Wyoming (Are ya Kiddin, V?)
16. South Alabama (Moved up from 17)
17. Memphis (fell from 10)
18. ODU *
19. UAB *
20. Tulsa *

Footnotes:
*(Toledo, WKU, and Central Michigan fell out of the Top Twenty this week)
Are Ya Kiddin? = First time appearances from schools that CBSSports must really like or they pulled out of their Ar#$%
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Tulane is legit. I know, it sounds odd but after watching them brat Kansas St, they are a really good team.
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They must pull these rankings out of their rear end. There’s no way that the Beach Chickens are a #5 team. Look at the teams that they’ve struggled to beat. I think the Beach Chickens would even tell you that they’re not that good this year.
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(09-19-2022 03:11 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  Tulane is legit. I know, it sounds odd but after watching them Kansas St, they are a really good team.

I'll take your word for it. Haven't seen the Green Wave play this year. I'm old enough to remember when they left the SEC. Always thought they made a mistake going independent back then.
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(09-19-2022 02:10 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  Updated thru September 19

1. Appy State (swapped with Cincy)
2. Cincy
3. Tulane (Are ya kiddin?)
4. Fresno State ( Are ya Kiddin, Jr. ?)
5. Coastal Carolina (swapped w/UTSA)
6. UTSA
7. SMU (are ya Kiddin, III?)
8. Marshall (fell from 3rd)
9. Houston (I overlooked em last week)
10. UCF (Stumble a bit)
11. Air Force Academy (Are ya Kiddin,IV?)
12. Boise State
13. East Carolina (dropped from 8)
14. Liberty
15. Wyoming (Are ya Kiddin, V?)
16. South Alabama (Moved up from 17)
17. Memphis (fell from 10)
18. ODU *
19. UAB *
20. Tulsa *

Footnotes:
*(Toledo, WKU, and Central Michigan fell out of the Top Twenty this week)
Are Ya Kiddin? = First time appearances from schools that CBSSports must really like or they pulled out of their Ar#$%

This is probably the most ridiculous rankings I have seen this year, hilarious actually.
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I think Louisiana fell out too. I think Rice is on the cusp, but we will see if the performance against Louisiana was a fluke or not at a UH team suddenly playing without much confidence.
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(09-19-2022 07:04 PM)Dusky Wrote:  
(09-19-2022 02:10 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  Updated thru September 19

1. Appy State (swapped with Cincy)
2. Cincy
3. Tulane (Are ya kiddin?)
4. Fresno State ( Are ya Kiddin, Jr. ?)
5. Coastal Carolina (swapped w/UTSA)
6. UTSA
7. SMU (are ya Kiddin, III?)
8. Marshall (fell from 3rd)
9. Houston (I overlooked em last week)
10. UCF (Stumble a bit)
11. Air Force Academy (Are ya Kiddin,IV?)
12. Boise State
13. East Carolina (dropped from 8)
14. Liberty
15. Wyoming (Are ya Kiddin, V?)
16. South Alabama (Moved up from 17)
17. Memphis (fell from 10)
18. ODU *
19. UAB *
20. Tulsa *

Footnotes:
*(Toledo, WKU, and Central Michigan fell out of the Top Twenty this week)
Are Ya Kiddin? = First time appearances from schools that CBSSports must really like or they pulled out of their Ar#$%

This is probably the most ridiculous rankings I have seen this year, hilarious actually.

clt agrees, just a garbage list
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UAB is lower than South Alabama (LMFAO), ODU, Wyoming?? And that far from UTSA? What kind of algorithm do they use for the CBS rankings, or is this human picked?
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(09-20-2022 09:34 AM)Engblazr Wrote:  UAB is lower than South Alabama (LMFAO), ODU, Wyoming?? And that far from UTSA? What kind of algorithm do they use for the CBS rankings, or is this human picked?

Really don't know whether it is computer generated or one or more sportswriters at CBS who do their weekly 131 CBS ranking. But you can bet that they don't spend a helluva lot of time or attention on ranking any of the folks that are not in the Cartel 5. We are all afterthoughts in a filler column.
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(09-20-2022 09:34 AM)Engblazr Wrote:  UAB is lower than South Alabama (LMFAO), ODU, Wyoming?? And that far from UTSA? What kind of algorithm do they use for the CBS rankings, or is this human picked?

South Alabama is not a garbage team this year. They beat Central Michigan handily who is a good MAC team and their new HC made a boneheaded call to lose them the UCLA game. On the face of it, they have a better "resume" than UAB to this point, although UAB could very well be the better team.

you know this intern is just looking at hte results and going from there and not doing any indepth analysis.
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Update of the Non-Cartel Top Twenty (extrapolated from CBSSports 131 FBS Rankings) as of September 27, 2022

1. Cincy*
2. Coastal Carolina
3. Tulane
4. UCF
5. SMU
6. James Madison
7. Fresno State
8. Appy State
9. Air Force
10. UTSA**
11. UAB**
12. Liberty**
13. South Alabama
14. Marshall
15. Middle Tennessee**
16. Houston
17. Memphis
18. East Carolina
19. Western Kentucky**
20. Troy

* Note: Ignored BYU which is ranked above Cincy cause I think of them as a Hybrid Nat'l program they were Nat'l Champs back in the 80's and are really an Indy
** Denotes the (5) current and future members of CUSA.
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(09-12-2022 12:01 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  Just looking at the CBSSports ranking of all 131 FBS programs, here is our Top Twenty:

1. Cincy (almost in the Cartel)
2. Appy State (Very Impressed)
3. Marshall (Wow. way to beat ND)
4. UTSA (Lookin' Good on the way out of CUSA)
5. Coastal Carolina (One Helluva Coach and near a Beach)
6. UCF (Biggest undergrad student Body in the South)
7. ULL (Cajuns are Ragin)
8. East Carolina (Are the Pirates actually decent this year?)
9. Liberty (But Malik Willis is with the Titans. H'mmm?)
10. Memphis (Elvis must still be in the building)
11. Old Dominion (So, while in CUSA you sucked; but Now?)
12. Tulsa (What the Hell is a Golden Hurricane?)
13 SDSU (Guess when they join the PAC they wont be a Non-Cartel program)
14. Army (Well it's Army and at least one academy has to be in our top 20)
15. UAB (Gonna miss you, Blazers)
16. Northern Illinois (Are the Huskies the Best of the MAC?)
17. South Alabama (Really?)
18. Toledo (like a Rocket!)
19. Western Kentucky ( As long as we beat your butt in HC, happy for ya!)
20.Central Michigan (Chippewas 3rd Best in the MAC.)

Really. Get used to it.
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With that win over Boise I'd thought we could break into the Top 20. I guess not. *sniff*
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(09-27-2022 02:28 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  With that win over Boise I'd thought we could break into the Top 20. I guess not. *sniff*

I thought that UTEP would jump up there this week as well. The Boise win was impressive.
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