(09-19-2022 08:31 AM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  Nothing will happen to Dana without Tilman’s directive.

Just thinking, Khator can look like a great president as long as she has Tilman's money to spend.

(09-18-2022 08:58 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Holgorsen has gotten a couple of head coaching jobs in weird circumstances. At West Virginia, he was brought in as heir apparent to Bill Stewart, and then Stewart got canned and Holgorsen promoted under circumstances that looked as if Holgorsen may have stabbed Stewart in the back. And the circumstances when he replaced Major at UH w ere also bit weird.

Nothing really says that Holgorsen is a bad guy, and Stewart behaved weirdly before the change at WVA, but it is strange how these things keep happening.

some people did something....

You have to admit Holgorsen is a strange dude. I wonder if the players have to put up with a lot of verbal abuse during practice. Seems like coaches are holding him back all the tine when arguing with the refs.

Maybe a two-fer coming on Monday...

Georgia Tech's Athletic Association board has a special meeting scheduled for Monday, where decisions could come on embattled coach Geoff Collins and athletic director Todd Stansbury. A Georgia Tech source said changes are expected within the program Monday.

Georgia Tech fell to 1-3 after Saturday's 27-10 loss to UCF. The team also lost 42-0 to Ole Miss and 41-10 to Clemson to open the season.

Collins is just 10-28 as Georgia Tech coach after arriving from Temple. Stansbury has led Georgia Tech's athletic department since 2016. He hired Collins and brought him back after a disappointing 2021 season. If Georgia Tech fires Collins, industry sources do not expect Stansbury to hire his replacement. Collins will make approximately $3.3 million this season and has three years left on his initial contract with Georgia Tech.

Some academic schools don't seem to mess around too much when it comes to football. But some are more equal than others. Tech got out of the Metro years ago and has been able to navigate to a national football Championship as well as better its position overall athletically since the 70's, when it was a perennial doormat and laughingstock. Might one reason we never seek to play them is we don't want the obvious direct comparisons made? Love how they seem to want to can their AD, too, who actually has been comparatively successful overall with their program, but tech President knows Football drives the bus.

Also, less than 24 hours after losing to UTEP and dropping to 2-2 on the season (a record some might say is pretty good), Boise State coach Andy Avalos announced on Saturday that he's fired offensive coordinator Tim Plough.

Plough will be replaced by Dirk Koetter, who has been a head coach in college at Boise State and Arizona State, and in the NFL with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Koetter, who was most recently the Atlanta Falcons offensive coordinator from 2019-20, was brought in as an offensive analyst in June.

We know Boise don't mess around with their football program and let it slide toward oblivion as their football program helps their school's national marketing and improves its overall image both with fans as well as potential alumni employers verus if they were perennial losers on the gridiron.

yup, they still want to try to win at Georgia Tech...Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets fire athletic director Todd Stansbury, football coach Geoff Collins

Quote:Georgia Tech fired athletic director Todd Stansbury and head football coach Geoff Collins on Monday.

Collins was in his fourth season as coach. Collins was 10-28 as Georgia Tech's coach after arriving from Temple. Stansbury had been Georgia Tech's athletic director since 2016. Stansbury hired Collins and made the decision to bring him back last year after a 3-9 season.

Collins has three years left on his initial contract. He was making approximately $3.3 million this year.

The buyout for Collins is expected to be $11.37 million, compared to $7.2 million it would have cost the school in January. (It would have been nearly $10.6 million at the end of the regular season.) The buyout for Stansbury isn't considered prohibitive.

(09-26-2022 07:53 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  yup, they still want to try to win at Georgia Tech...Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets fire athletic director Todd Stansbury, football coach Geoff Collins

GT ran Paul Johnson out of town with an 11-year record of 82-61, 1 ACC conference championship, 3 other division championships, and 9 bowls. His bowl record was only 2-7, but that's probably at least partly because the flexbone is a lot easier to defend with 4 weeks to prepare. In retrospect, maybe they wish they had him back.

I liked his offense better as OC at Hawaii and before that at Georgia Southern, than his offense at Navy and Ga Tech. The earlier versions had a lot more run & shoot passing game. That's really where I got the idea of marrying the triple option to the run & shoot.

Karl Dorrell fired at Colorado.

(10-02-2022 03:04 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Karl Dorrell fired at Colorado.

Nation’s only FBS 0-5 team.

(10-02-2022 06:15 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(10-02-2022 03:04 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Karl Dorrell fired at Colorado.

Nation’s only FBS 0-5 team.

Wisconsin fired their football coach Paul Chryst, after a 2-3 start to their season.

Quote:Chryst, 56, who was born in Madison, finishes 67-26 in seven-plus seasons at Wisconsin, his alma mater. He won 10 games or more in four of his first five seasons with the Badgers, winning a Cotton Bowl, an Orange Bowl and three Big Ten West Division titles. But the program fell off beginning in 2020, going 4-3, before a slow start to the 2021 season, in which the Badgers finished 9-4.

The decision to fire Chryst came one day after Wisconsin lost 34-10 to Illinois, coached by former Badgers coach Bret Bielema. Wisconsin also fell 52-21 to Ohio State on Sept. 24, one of its worst losses in recent memory, and lost 17-14 at home against Washington State on Sept. 10 as a heavy favorite.

[b]Athletic director Chris McIntosh said in a news conference Sunday night, "It's my role to have the position of our program always on my mind," McIntosh said. "We just reached a point where today I felt was the right time to make that decision. It's not one I take lightly; it's an incredibly tough day for us all. But I'm incredibly optimistic that today is the first day of the future of this program."[/b]

Seems like their AD, Chris McIntosh knows and is willing to do his job.

(paragraph) I like how these schools aren't messing around with years of mediocrity and failure, twisting in the wind and not waiting until the end or even middle of the season to get rid of something that is not working anymore or never was. Experience has shown 2-3 would probably be considered "great" on S. Main. I like how these schools don't try to prop some guy up and hanging on to one potentially winning season after four years of crap and excuses. No successful workplace in the real working world tolerates that kind of failure (well, government jobs do reward failure after failure and still lie publicly about what a great job they do, but that's not the real world.)

(paragraph) I don't follow Wisconsin closely, I was a bit surprised by their firing as my general impression is their program is successful, and they have been ranked most years for a while. The reality seems to be this is part of their school's image marketing and they don't want to let the business of running a football program drag their school's overall rep too far down in their region, where their grads and alums are directly affected. People like college sports. It means something to them at work and the water-cooler talk.

(paragraph) The image of a perennial loser does filter down and affect the overall image and impression of all those who graduated from a school. Wisconsin and most B1G teams seem to get this. If you can't stand the heat, don't pretend to be a cook working in a kitchen; customers will be dissatisfied, and rightfully so, and folks will stop coming to your establishment due to its reputation. Word travels.

/steps down.

(10-02-2022 03:04 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Karl Dorrell fired at Colorado.

I like what the Colorado AD said and did:

He not only fired the Head Coach, he fired the Defensive Coordinator also.

Colorado director of athletics Rick George said, "However, the on-the-field performance fell well short of our expectations," George added. "I know that starts with me. I hired Karl and it didn't work out the way any of us wanted it to. There's no excuses, and I own my part in where we are today."

Seems refreshing to hear a leader take some responsibility for his decisions and not try to back-fill for mediocrity and/or failure. Maybe Dorrell would have been able to pull out a middling season or a who cares? bowl this year or next. Colorado is saying they are shrewd enough not to wait around and find out. Next.

(10-03-2022 09:32 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(10-02-2022 03:04 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Karl Dorrell fired at Colorado.

I like what the Colorado AD said and did:

He not only fired the Head Coach, he fired the Defensive Coordinator also.

Colorado director of athletics Rick George said, "However, the on-the-field performance fell well short of our expectations," George added. "I know that starts with me. I hired Karl and it didn't work out the way any of us wanted it to. There's no excuses, and I own my part in where we are today."

Seems refreshing to hear a leader take some responsibility for his decisions and not try to back-fill for mediocrity and/or failure. Maybe Dorrell would have been able to pull out a middling season or a who cares? bowl this year or next. Colorado is saying they are shrewd enough not to wait around and find out. Next.

Maybe he owns it, but he didn't fire himself.

(10-03-2022 09:35 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Maybe he owns it, but he didn't fire himself.

true, but not really in his job description...up to a President who would care.

(10-03-2022 03:12 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(10-03-2022 09:35 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Maybe he owns it, but he didn't fire himself.

true, but not really in his job description...up to a President who would care.

Resigning would be the effective same thing.

Quote:Former Wisconsin football coach Paul Chryst will receive a reduced buyout of $11 million, the school said Monday.

Chryst, fired Sunday following a 2-3 start to the season, had approximately $20 million left on a contract that paid him through January 2027. But athletic director Chris McIntosh said Sunday that Chryst had agreed to take a reduced payout, while not revealing the specifics.

(10-04-2022 03:55 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

Quote:Former Wisconsin football coach Paul Chryst will receive a reduced buyout of $11 million, the school said Monday.

Chryst, fired Sunday following a 2-3 start to the season, had approximately $20 million left on a contract that paid him through January 2027. But athletic director Chris McIntosh said Sunday that Chryst had agreed to take a reduced payout, while not revealing the specifics.

Depends on expectations: Wisconsin was probably expecting a 5-0 or 4-1 start.

You need to change your handle from GoodOwl to
QuickDrawOwl. Or HairTriggerOwl. Or NoQuarterOwl. Or DeguelloOwl

It's a fine line to walk between hanging on too long and overreacting too soon. Usually best understood in hindsight.

I think maybe this is Bloomgren's current theme song:

One more last chance

(10-04-2022 05:00 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(10-04-2022 03:55 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

Quote:Former Wisconsin football coach Paul Chryst will receive a reduced buyout of $11 million, the school said Monday.

Chryst, fired Sunday following a 2-3 start to the season, had approximately $20 million left on a contract that paid him through January 2027. But athletic director Chris McIntosh said Sunday that Chryst had agreed to take a reduced payout, while not revealing the specifics.

Depends on expectations: Wisconsin was probably expecting a 5-0 or 4-1 start.

You need to change your handle from GoodOwl to
QuickDrawOwl. Or HairTriggerOwl. Or NoQuarterOwl. Or DeguelloOwl

It's a fine line to walk between hanging on too long and overreacting too soon. Usually best understood in hindsight.

I think maybe this is Bloomgren's current theme song:

One more last chance

I couldnt fathom ever negotiating a payout down on a contract like that. Maybe the U had pics of him with hookers and blow?

I saw one report that Chryst's buyout was reduced from $16MM to $11MM, but eliminating the provision that if he takes another coaching job his compensation from such job would be netted against the buyout.

(10-03-2022 09:20 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(10-02-2022 06:15 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(10-02-2022 03:04 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Karl Dorrell fired at Colorado.

Nation’s only FBS 0-5 team.

Wisconsin fired their football coach Paul Chryst, after a 2-3 start to their season.

Quote:Chryst, 56, who was born in Madison, finishes 67-26 in seven-plus seasons at Wisconsin, his alma mater. He won 10 games or more in four of his first five seasons with the Badgers, winning a Cotton Bowl, an Orange Bowl and three Big Ten West Division titles. But the program fell off beginning in 2020, going 4-3, before a slow start to the 2021 season, in which the Badgers finished 9-4.

The decision to fire Chryst came one day after Wisconsin lost 34-10 to Illinois, coached by former Badgers coach Bret Bielema. Wisconsin also fell 52-21 to Ohio State on Sept. 24, one of its worst losses in recent memory, and lost 17-14 at home against Washington State on Sept. 10 as a heavy favorite.

[b]Athletic director Chris McIntosh said in a news conference Sunday night, "It's my role to have the position of our program always on my mind," McIntosh said. "We just reached a point where today I felt was the right time to make that decision. It's not one I take lightly; it's an incredibly tough day for us all. But I'm incredibly optimistic that today is the first day of the future of this program."[/b]

Seems like their AD, Chris McIntosh knows and is willing to do his job.

(paragraph) I like how these schools aren't messing around with years of mediocrity and failure, twisting in the wind and not waiting until the end or even middle of the season to get rid of something that is not working anymore or never was. Experience has shown 2-3 would probably be considered "great" on S. Main. I like how these schools don't try to prop some guy up and hanging on to one potentially winning season after four years of crap and excuses. No successful workplace in the real working world tolerates that kind of failure (well, government jobs do reward failure after failure and still lie publicly about what a great job they do, but that's not the real world.)

(paragraph) I don't follow Wisconsin closely, I was a bit surprised by their firing as my general impression is their program is successful, and they have been ranked most years for a while. The reality seems to be this is part of their school's image marketing and they don't want to let the business of running a football program drag their school's overall rep too far down in their region, where their grads and alums are directly affected. People like college sports. It means something to them at work and the water-cooler talk.

(paragraph) The image of a perennial loser does filter down and affect the overall image and impression of all those who graduated from a school. Wisconsin and most B1G teams seem to get this. If you can't stand the heat, don't pretend to be a cook working in a kitchen; customers will be dissatisfied, and rightfully so, and folks will stop coming to your establishment due to its reputation. Word travels.

/steps down.

Chryst was 67-26 at Wisconsin including 9-4 last year…wonder if something else is going on there?

Matt Ruhle out as Panthers HC.

Seems the transition from FBS to NFL isn't that easy.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/3476...-1-4-start