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Wow, quite the match....and a really important win for us.

Rice badly outplayed the first 1 1/2 sets, but oddly turned it around with Darby Harris playing instead of Carly for balance of the 2nd set.

First let me say that Texas Tech is one heck of a quality squad. Not sure why they haven't yet received any votes. Their offense positions the excellent kill opportunities on almost every play, and they had 20 blocks against us. Their backline defense is solid, as well. Really good all-around team. I don't think anyone in the country is going to beat Texas (unless they beat themselves), but I think Tech will battle with Baylor for 2nd place in the Big12, and will likely be a post-season team.

Again, it was the defensive back line that kept us in the game as our offense once again struggled mightily. McCardell (36 digs) was exceptional, while Maruska, Harris and Mansfield all had double digit digs. Adekunle had a second consecutive inefficient match, though her numbers went from horrid to semi-respectable with a strong final set. A pattern with her over the past couple years is when she gets blocked a couple times early she loses her aggressiveness and shies away from the kill ball. Fortunately for us, she regained her confidence in the decisive final set. Maruska continues to be frustratingly inefficient (almost to the point of being an offensive liability), yet she continues to get more attack opportunities than anyone else. However, she is a big part of our defensive strength. Today she hit 8 kills, 6 errors, 47 attacks, .043, but had 23 digs. Courtley (16 kills, 3 errors, 44 attacks, .295) and Bichelmeyer (14 kills, 5 errors, 31 attacks, .290) were our only efficient offensive players. Once again, far too many wasted offensive opportunities with weak taps over the net. And we had as many blocking errors as we had blocks. Finally, our service game almost cost us the match (3 aces, 10 service errors). It really needs to improve if we're going to be able to compete against elite teams. We can't beat ourselves with unforced offensive errors and service errors.

Having said all that, this team showed resilience and perserverence after getting blown out in the first set (and going down by 4 early in the second), and then having Tech blow past us after a back and forth first half of the 4th set.

Large crowd with Texas Tech fans filling their side of the court. Disappointing that the students once again failed to show up.

Next weekend should be a big test for us and should give us an opportunity to get back into the Top 25. Kansas State (8-2) is solid and #17 Creighton (and probably moving up in tomorrow's poll) is really good, and already has a couple wins against ranked opponents (and lost a nail biter 5-setter to #2 Nebraska).
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(09-11-2022 02:27 PM)dragon2owl Wrote:  Not sure what happened to the team that played at Oregon….

lol Same team. You're forgetting that we played poorly for 3 of the 5 sets against Oregon, yet somehow pulled out that first set.
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(09-11-2022 02:46 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  Owl taps over the net have TT front line licking their chops. Little aggression from the Owls.

I just don't understand this strategy....but we do it so often it has to be part of the game plan. Insane, IMO, as it puts us the defensive.
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FINAL: RV @RiceVolleyball (8-1) defends home court in a topsy-turvy five-setter, handing the first loss of the year to Texas Tech (8-1). Owls now are responsible for the only loss by two different 8-1 teams, as they also swept Houston #GoOwls #NCAAVB
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Wasn't sure what to think of Tech coming into the match. Yes, they were undefeated but their best two wins were against Notre Dame and Georgia. Notre Dame is 3-5 and just lost to Navy yesterday. Georgia is 8-1 but their best win is against Charlotte (6-4) who is a borderline top 100 team (probably outside).
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Really exciting match to attend.
My read was that it took being down 6-1 early in the 1st set to make the team realize this wasn't McNeese or Brown and they would have to play their best to have a chance.
Anota is devastating when she gets the right set.
Frosh Gaby Mansfield and Darby Harris were excellent. Look for Harris to be the setter when Carly leaves. She did well with Carly on the bench in set 2.
Courtley looked average after better games against weaker opponents.
Izzy Rawlings appeared to be a designated server. Can't say she was more effective than anyone else. Game plan appeared to be serve to #11, but she handled them well.
We played a number of balls I thought would have been out long, but I'm sure the coaching is "play it if there's doubt".
Officiating looked spotty to me. Tech coach agreed i'm sure.
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(09-11-2022 07:44 PM)Old Sammy Wrote:  Really exciting match to attend.
My read was that it took being down 6-1 early in the 1st set to make the team realize this wasn't McNeese or Brown and they would have to play their best to have a chance.
Anota is devastating when she gets the right set.
Frosh Gaby Mansfield and Darby Harris were excellent. Look for Harris to be the setter when Carly leaves. She did well with Carly on the bench in set 2.
Courtley looked average after better games against weaker opponents.
Officiating looked spotty to me. Tech coach agreed i'm sure.

Courtley looked average? Seriously? She was our only offense the first two sets, and she was our most efficient hitter of the match. The problem in this match was that Carly had an rare off day setting. Unlike Texas Tech front line hitters who received perfect sets after perfect sets, there were far too many of our sets today that were well off of the net, making for very difficult kill opportunities. Anota was the exception, and she was blocked (or committed unforced errors) repeatedly the first 2+ sets. Yes, she came alive in the final set and was a big factor in winning the set/match, but she was sub-par the first half of the match, and many of those sets to her were right on the money.
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(09-11-2022 05:33 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(09-11-2022 02:46 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  Owl taps over the net have TT front line licking their chops. Little aggression from the Owls.

I just don't understand this strategy....but we do it so often it has to be part of the game plan. Insane, IMO, as it puts us the defensive.

It worked a couple of times. I really need a seminar from someone who really understands the game. What information does the hitter have when attempting a kill? Are they dependent on what they can see of the opponents' defense when attempting the shot? Do teammates help?
There are offensive formations and signals. Haven't a clue what they are.
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(09-11-2022 07:57 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Courtley looked average? Seriously?

Yes, to my relatively untrained eye. Not as effective as she was in the previous 3 matches, but none of those was against Tech.
The defense is what won the match imo.
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(09-11-2022 08:04 PM)Old Sammy Wrote:  
(09-11-2022 05:33 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(09-11-2022 02:46 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  Owl taps over the net have TT front line licking their chops. Little aggression from the Owls.

I just don't understand this strategy....but we do it so often it has to be part of the game plan. Insane, IMO, as it puts us the defensive.

It worked a couple of times. I really need a seminar from someone who really understands the game. What information does the hitter have when attempting a kill? Are they dependent on what they can see of the opponents' defense when attempting the shot? Do teammates help?
There are offensive formations and signals. Haven't a clue what they are.

What I do know is the team is doing better this year in not trying to force a kill when the set is just not good enough. The tap gets a bad set back over the net, which is better than driving a bad set into the net with a spike that’s just not going to happen.
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(09-11-2022 08:04 PM)Old Sammy Wrote:  
(09-11-2022 05:33 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(09-11-2022 02:46 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  Owl taps over the net have TT front line licking their chops. Little aggression from the Owls.

I just don't understand this strategy....but we do it so often it has to be part of the game plan. Insane, IMO, as it puts us the defensive.

It worked a couple of times. I really need a seminar from someone who really understands the game. What information does the hitter have when attempting a kill? Are they dependent on what they can see of the opponents' defense when attempting the shot? Do teammates help?
There are offensive formations and signals. Haven't a clue what they are.

The time for a tap is when you're going up for the kill and notice that both defenders are positioning to go up for the block. We tap before the defense commits itself and, oftentimes, passing up well-positioned sets for kill opportunities. And our taps are rarely directed toward open floor space. Again, I just don't get it. It not only let's the opponents defense off the hook, but it sets up the opponents offense.
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(09-11-2022 08:19 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  
(09-11-2022 08:04 PM)Old Sammy Wrote:  
(09-11-2022 05:33 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(09-11-2022 02:46 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  Owl taps over the net have TT front line licking their chops. Little aggression from the Owls.

I just don't understand this strategy....but we do it so often it has to be part of the game plan. Insane, IMO, as it puts us the defensive.

It worked a couple of times. I really need a seminar from someone who really understands the game. What information does the hitter have when attempting a kill? Are they dependent on what they can see of the opponents' defense when attempting the shot? Do teammates help?
There are offensive formations and signals. Haven't a clue what they are.

What I do know is the team is doing better this year in not trying to force a kill when the set is just not good enough. The tap gets a bad set back over the net, which is better than driving a bad set into the net with a spike that’s just not going to happen.

Sorry, but to my eye we've been all too frequently tapping when the set IS well positioned and, instead we're passing on the kill opportunity. Those times when the set is not right (and we don't even consider going for the kill) we're just weakly tapping the ball over the night-- right to the setter-- rather than sending it a bit deeper to the back court so the opposition has to set up their offense. We're making it way too easy for the opposition's offense.
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(09-11-2022 08:25 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(09-11-2022 08:19 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  
(09-11-2022 08:04 PM)Old Sammy Wrote:  
(09-11-2022 05:33 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(09-11-2022 02:46 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  Owl taps over the net have TT front line licking their chops. Little aggression from the Owls.

I just don't understand this strategy....but we do it so often it has to be part of the game plan. Insane, IMO, as it puts us the defensive.

It worked a couple of times. I really need a seminar from someone who really understands the game. What information does the hitter have when attempting a kill? Are they dependent on what they can see of the opponents' defense when attempting the shot? Do teammates help?
There are offensive formations and signals. Haven't a clue what they are.

What I do know is the team is doing better this year in not trying to force a kill when the set is just not good enough. The tap gets a bad set back over the net, which is better than driving a bad set into the net with a spike that’s just not going to happen.

Sorry, but to my eye we've been all too frequently tapping when the set IS well positioned and, instead we're passing on the kill opportunity. Those times when the set is not right (and we don't even consider going for the kill) we're just weakly tapping the ball over the night-- right to the setter-- rather than sending it a bit deeper to the back court so the opposition has to set up their offense. We're making it way too easy for the opposition's offense.

So, are you saying it’s sheer incompetence and we need a new coach?

Or is it more complicated than that?
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(09-11-2022 10:05 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  
(09-11-2022 08:25 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(09-11-2022 08:19 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  
(09-11-2022 08:04 PM)Old Sammy Wrote:  
(09-11-2022 05:33 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  I just don't understand this strategy....but we do it so often it has to be part of the game plan. Insane, IMO, as it puts us the defensive.

It worked a couple of times. I really need a seminar from someone who really understands the game. What information does the hitter have when attempting a kill? Are they dependent on what they can see of the opponents' defense when attempting the shot? Do teammates help?
There are offensive formations and signals. Haven't a clue what they are.

What I do know is the team is doing better this year in not trying to force a kill when the set is just not good enough. The tap gets a bad set back over the net, which is better than driving a bad set into the net with a spike that’s just not going to happen.

Sorry, but to my eye we've been all too frequently tapping when the set IS well positioned and, instead we're passing on the kill opportunity. Those times when the set is not right (and we don't even consider going for the kill) we're just weakly tapping the ball over the night-- right to the setter-- rather than sending it a bit deeper to the back court so the opposition has to set up their offense. We're making it way too easy for the opposition's offense.

So, are you saying it’s sheer incompetence and we need a new coach?

Or is it more complicated than that?

Yeah, right. I'm a big Genny fan. All I'm saying is that it's frustrating to watch and real head-scratching with regard to strategy as I can't see how this benefit us.
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Bichelmeyer - CUSA Offensive Player of the Week
McCardell - CUSA Defensive Player of the Week

McCardell is 9th the nation in digs/set. As a team, Rice is 4th.
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Rice gains votes but just missed being in the Top 25.

1. Texas (1595)
14. Baylor (731)
17. Creighton (629)
20. Oregon (361)
21. WKU (343)
25. Illinois (83)

Others receiving votes and listed on two or more ballots: Rice 73; Towson 51; UCLA 44; Utah 40; Mississippi State 33; UCF 26; Miami (FL) 15; UNLV 15; Washington State 13; Colorado 10; Northwestern 9; Michigan 7; Southern California 7; Houston 6

https://www.avca.org/polls/di-women/2022...-2022.html
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(09-12-2022 01:51 PM)dragon2owl Wrote:  Rice gains votes but just missed being in the Top 25.

1. Texas (1595)
14. Baylor (731)
17. Creighton (629)
20. Oregon (361)
21. WKU (343)
25. Illinois (83)

Others receiving votes and listed on two or more ballots: Rice 73; Towson 51; UCLA 44; Utah 40; Mississippi State 33; UCF 26; Miami (FL) 15; UNLV 15; Washington State 13; Colorado 10; Northwestern 9; Michigan 7; Southern California 7; Houston 6

https://www.avca.org/polls/di-women/2022...-2022.html

Sneaking up on my them. Surprised TT isn’t getting some some votes. At times on Sunday they looked to be the better, more disciplined, more aggressive team.

Sunday was a fun match to see in person with a good and engaged crowd. Lot’s of young (HS & club players) there. Good to see!
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(09-12-2022 02:09 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  
(09-12-2022 01:51 PM)dragon2owl Wrote:  Rice gains votes but just missed being in the Top 25.

1. Texas (1595)
14. Baylor (731)
17. Creighton (629)
20. Oregon (361)
21. WKU (343)
25. Illinois (83)

Others receiving votes and listed on two or more ballots: Rice 73; Towson 51; UCLA 44; Utah 40; Mississippi State 33; UCF 26; Miami (FL) 15; UNLV 15; Washington State 13; Colorado 10; Northwestern 9; Michigan 7; Southern California 7; Houston 6

https://www.avca.org/polls/di-women/2022...-2022.html

Sneaking up on my them. Surprised TT isn’t getting some some votes. At times on Sunday they looked to be the better, more disciplined, more aggressive team.

Sunday was a fun match to see in person with a good and engaged crowd. Lot’s of young (HS & club players) there. Good to see!

A couple of next year's recruits were here, as well. I saw Genny great them before the match. As for TT, I think they outplayed us. Our backline defense is slightly better, but they had the superior service game, blocking game and offensive game. Having said that, I do think our offense will continue to improve as the season progresses and Carly had a rare off-day yesterday in her setting game.

The Tech win positioned us where we needed to be heading into next weekend. I still don't understand how WKU is getting more votes than us, let alone almost 5 times our vote total as our resume at this point is superior to theirs. They just barely beat Northern Kentucky in a 5-setter at home and got blown out in home sweep by #4 Louisville. They may be 9-1, but they have yet to beat anybody of note. This week they play 4 matches against Tennessee on the road, and Tennessee Tech, A&M and Indiana at home. A&M is having a down year, and Tennessee and Indiana are not strong P5 programs in volleyball.

Not sure how Bichelmeyer can CUSA Offensive Player of the Week over Courtley, but whatever. Nia has won all three CUSA Defensive POW honors so far this season.
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The VolleyTalk group has Rice at #24.

https://volleytalk.proboards.com/thread/...k-rankings
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