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RE: Yormark: "My goal is to be even more national geographically."
(09-10-2022 11:04 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(09-09-2022 08:21 PM)Huan Wrote:  
(09-09-2022 07:37 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(09-09-2022 08:16 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  ... So if the B1G isn't adding now, it's hard to see them ever adding. When the struggles of UCLA/USC becomes evident, the B1G presidents may change their tune and complete the west wing. But I don't see why you don't just pull the trigger now. ...

A quite simple reason would because the Conference has not yet agreed on what move to make.

Suppose you have a camp that wants the whole PN4 (to get Stanford and Cal, since they know they won't be able to sell Stanford & Cal on their own), you have a camp that mostly wants to avoid the payout per school dropping, you have a camp that wants the PNW2 but not expansion by 4, you have a camp that wants to limit the adds to 2 at the most, and &tc.

They have passed the end of June deadline for PAC-10 schools to announce a departure for 2024, while the deadline for a 2025 departure is over half a year away, so there's no urgency. Three or four months of politicking behind close doors before a compromise emerges would be entirely unsurprising.

Is it two years notice required? Or did ucla and usc decide 24 works because it marks the end of the pac’s current media contract?

Two year's notice is required. USC/UCLA announced when they did in order for the two year's notice to allow them to leave exactly when they were released by the GOR.

None of us can find that in the published pAC 12 bylaws.
09-10-2022 12:32 PM
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RE: Yormark: "My goal is to be even more national geographically."
(09-10-2022 04:36 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(09-09-2022 08:16 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  If the B1G isn't adding UO UW, it's hard to see them adding UVa & UNC. While you could argue the latter is slightly ahead of the former, it's not that big a difference. The latter being BBall schools, you are hardly getting premiere football content and it already overlaps the existing time zones. Would they add UNC/Duke? Again, BBall is not even a quarter of the total distributions. Maybe it's 25% at best.

So if the B1G isn't adding now, it's hard to see them ever adding. When the struggles of UCLA/USC becomes evident, the B1G presidents may change their tune and complete the west wing. But I don't see why you don't just pull the trigger now.

I see the SEC getting to 20 with FSU Clemson UNC +1 and B1G getting to 20 with the west wing and stopping there. I think ND is content playing a first round playoff game every year. Not sure what weather they can expect in mid December though out in South Bend.

Football weather. It would be fun (to me, anyway) to watch or attend a home playoff game with 20 degree temperatures and snowfall.

I've done it, in College Station, in a game that we won against our most hated rival ('93). And it was still miserable. Give me 95 degrees with no wind any day over that.
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RE: Yormark: "My goal is to be even more national geographically."
(09-10-2022 05:40 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  The most likely P3 conference setup:

SEC: FSU UNC Clemson NCSU (Duke WF affiliates)
B1G: PN4, CU, GaTech, UVa, ND
Big 20: AU, ASU, Utah, VaTech Pitt UL Miami, SDSU/CSU

BC and Cuse in the Big East. Football joins MAC or UMass UConn poaching Buffalo, Temple, Duke/WF FO, and maybe Navy. You know Eagles and Orangemen fans would be salivating for that setup.

I forgot about OSU/WSU, but they perhaps get in if the Big 12 goes to 24. I don't see the SEC past 20 in football because they simply don't need the national reach the other P2s require. Olympic sports schools make more sense to round the SEC out.

Without commenting on the rest of it, the SEC would take either UVA or VaTech over NcState in that scenario. Possibly Miami and ASU, too.
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