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2022 enrollment
https://news.siu.edu/2022/09/090622-SIU-...-years.php

SIU freshman class is up but total enrollment is down.
Any word on NIU.
09-07-2022 04:06 PM
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RE: 2022 enrollment
https://niutoday.info/2022/09/08/nius-fr...demically/

"NIU’s freshman class grows again, shines academically"

Headline is positive, but of course..... "Total NIU enrollment for fall 2022 is 15,649, a decrease of 3.6% from a year ago. Overall, both undergraduate and Graduate School enrollment decreased."

So ready for a new president and AD, I'm sure some will argue otherwise, but hope one or both happen soon.
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RE: 2022 enrollment
Illinois State continues to run over NIU in enrollment.

https://news.illinoisstate.edu/2022/09/i...-35-years/

NIU’s enrollment strategy seems flawed.
09-08-2022 10:48 AM
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(09-08-2022 10:48 AM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  Illinois State continues to run over NIU in enrollment.

https://news.illinoisstate.edu/2022/09/i...-35-years/

NIU’s enrollment strategy seems flawed.

They have been hiding behind Covid for 3 years, time for NEW NIU LEADERSHIP.
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RE: 2022 enrollment
While there is crime everywhere, I feel that the image of crime in DeKalb has hurt enrollment. NIU officials should talk to parents to get a feeling of what are objections to sending their kids to NIU. Is it the crime, or is it an impression that ISU is a better school? I talked to a couple parents of college-aged kids, I talked up NIU, and I was basically told that they do not want to send their kids to DeKalb because of the criminal activity making it like Chicago west.
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(09-08-2022 11:31 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  While there is crime everywhere, I feel that the image of crime in DeKalb has hurt enrollment. NIU officials should talk to parents to get a feeling of what are objections to sending their kids to NIU. Is it the crime, or is it an impression that ISU is a better school? I talked to a couple parents of college-aged kids, I talked up NIU, and I was basically told that they do not want to send their kids to DeKalb because of the criminal activity making it like Chicago west.

I remember us making some sort of "Safest Campus" list recently, that should be out front on recruiting ads.
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(09-08-2022 11:31 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  While there is crime everywhere, I feel that the image of crime in DeKalb has hurt enrollment. NIU officials should talk to parents to get a feeling of what are objections to sending their kids to NIU. Is it the crime, or is it an impression that ISU is a better school? I talked to a couple parents of college-aged kids, I talked up NIU, and I was basically told that they do not want to send their kids to DeKalb because of the criminal activity making it like Chicago west.

When Richie Daley became mayor and started regentrifying neighborhoods in Chicago, he said to the towns of Illinois "What our problem is, is going to be your problem. Get prepared". No one took him serious and towns have been trying to play catch up ever since.
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RE: 2022 enrollment
(09-08-2022 11:31 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  While there is crime everywhere, I feel that the image of crime in DeKalb has hurt enrollment. NIU officials should talk to parents to get a feeling of what are objections to sending their kids to NIU. Is it the crime, or is it an impression that ISU is a better school? I talked to a couple parents of college-aged kids, I talked up NIU, and I was basically told that they do not want to send their kids to DeKalb because of the criminal activity making it like Chicago west.

It's everywhere:https://www.wlwt.com/article/university-of-kentucky-shooting-students-shot-house-party/41115663

10 shot right outside U. of Kentucky

And look at what happened by Memphis's campus, twice.
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(09-08-2022 11:51 AM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 11:31 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  While there is crime everywhere, I feel that the image of crime in DeKalb has hurt enrollment. NIU officials should talk to parents to get a feeling of what are objections to sending their kids to NIU. Is it the crime, or is it an impression that ISU is a better school? I talked to a couple parents of college-aged kids, I talked up NIU, and I was basically told that they do not want to send their kids to DeKalb because of the criminal activity making it like Chicago west.

It's everywhere:https://www.wlwt.com/article/university-of-kentucky-shooting-students-shot-house-party/41115663

10 shot right outside U. of Kentucky

And look at what happened by Memphis's campus, twice.

I agree the issue exists on the majority of major campuses currently, makes it worse that some can market their way around the issue and NIU's leadership can't.
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RE: 2022 enrollment
(09-08-2022 10:48 AM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  Illinois State continues to run over NIU in enrollment.

https://news.illinoisstate.edu/2022/09/i...-35-years/

NIU’s enrollment strategy seems flawed.

College enrollments are down across the board:
https://www.usnews.com/news/education-ne...re-to-stay

Especially tough in a "rust belt" state which isn't growing and may be even losing population. Universities need to adapt be offering more practical degrees. UCF and UNLV have "hospitality" oriented business degrees, and other schools have developed niches.

NIU needs to do the same.
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RE: 2022 enrollment
(09-08-2022 11:54 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 11:51 AM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 11:31 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  While there is crime everywhere, I feel that the image of crime in DeKalb has hurt enrollment. NIU officials should talk to parents to get a feeling of what are objections to sending their kids to NIU. Is it the crime, or is it an impression that ISU is a better school? I talked to a couple parents of college-aged kids, I talked up NIU, and I was basically told that they do not want to send their kids to DeKalb because of the criminal activity making it like Chicago west.

It's everywhere:https://www.wlwt.com/article/university-of-kentucky-shooting-students-shot-house-party/41115663

10 shot right outside U. of Kentucky

And look at what happened by Memphis's campus, twice.

I agree the issue exists on the majority of major campuses currently, makes it worse that some can market their way around the issue and NIU's leadership can't.

The city of Dekalb and NIU need to work together on this. First on the image issue, second, actually getting to the root of the problem, i.e., reducing crime. You can't stop it all, but DeKalb and the county need to do something about the blighted areas.
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RE: 2022 enrollment
(09-08-2022 11:57 AM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 11:54 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 11:51 AM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 11:31 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  While there is crime everywhere, I feel that the image of crime in DeKalb has hurt enrollment. NIU officials should talk to parents to get a feeling of what are objections to sending their kids to NIU. Is it the crime, or is it an impression that ISU is a better school? I talked to a couple parents of college-aged kids, I talked up NIU, and I was basically told that they do not want to send their kids to DeKalb because of the criminal activity making it like Chicago west.

It's everywhere:https://www.wlwt.com/article/university-of-kentucky-shooting-students-shot-house-party/41115663

10 shot right outside U. of Kentucky

And look at what happened by Memphis's campus, twice.

I agree the issue exists on the majority of major campuses currently, makes it worse that some can market their way around the issue and NIU's leadership can't.

The city of Dekalb and NIU need to work together on this. First on the image issue, second, actually getting to the root of the problem, i.e., reducing crime. You can't stop it all, but DeKalb and the county need to do something about the blighted areas.

DeKalb needs to do what the city of Chicago did to send the gang bangers to DeKalb.
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RE: 2022 enrollment
(09-08-2022 12:21 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 11:57 AM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 11:54 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 11:51 AM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 11:31 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  While there is crime everywhere, I feel that the image of crime in DeKalb has hurt enrollment. NIU officials should talk to parents to get a feeling of what are objections to sending their kids to NIU. Is it the crime, or is it an impression that ISU is a better school? I talked to a couple parents of college-aged kids, I talked up NIU, and I was basically told that they do not want to send their kids to DeKalb because of the criminal activity making it like Chicago west.

It's everywhere:https://www.wlwt.com/article/university-of-kentucky-shooting-students-shot-house-party/41115663

10 shot right outside U. of Kentucky

And look at what happened by Memphis's campus, twice.

I agree the issue exists on the majority of major campuses currently, makes it worse that some can market their way around the issue and NIU's leadership can't.

The city of Dekalb and NIU need to work together on this. First on the image issue, second, actually getting to the root of the problem, i.e., reducing crime. You can't stop it all, but DeKalb and the county need to do something about the blighted areas.

DeKalb needs to do what the city of Chicago did to send the gang bangers to DeKalb.
Well redoing downtown was a first step to regentrification. Will DeKalb City create TIF's?

Everybody assumes that gangs come from Chicago. But they also maybe coming from Rockford or Aurora.
But we really should be looking at the long-term solution is to lift everybody's socio-economic value so people do have to join gangs to survive.
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(09-08-2022 01:21 PM)Schaefer Beer Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 12:21 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 11:57 AM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 11:54 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 11:51 AM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  It's everywhere:https://www.wlwt.com/article/university-of-kentucky-shooting-students-shot-house-party/41115663

10 shot right outside U. of Kentucky

And look at what happened by Memphis's campus, twice.

I agree the issue exists on the majority of major campuses currently, makes it worse that some can market their way around the issue and NIU's leadership can't.

The city of Dekalb and NIU need to work together on this. First on the image issue, second, actually getting to the root of the problem, i.e., reducing crime. You can't stop it all, but DeKalb and the county need to do something about the blighted areas.

DeKalb needs to do what the city of Chicago did to send the gang bangers to DeKalb.
Well redoing downtown was a first step to regentrification. Will DeKalb City create TIF's?

Everybody assumes that gangs come from Chicago. But they also maybe coming from Rockford or Aurora.
But we really should be looking at the long-term solution is to lift everybody's socio-economic value so people do have to join gangs to survive.

I was in law enforcement a long time, and these "socio-economic" issues are global and endemic in nature. Focusing on that on a macro level is for NIU/DeKalb is as effective as trying to stop "climate change" on a local level.

It's now surprise as sentences and jail terms are reduced and law enforcement is vilified, crime has risen. And I'm talking about violent offenders, although the "quality of life" crimes such as shoplifting has reduced many urban downtowns into dystopias.

And most criminal don't steal to "survive" ,it's to avoid long term commitments to work.
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(09-08-2022 11:31 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  While there is crime everywhere, I feel that the image of crime in DeKalb has hurt enrollment. NIU officials should talk to parents to get a feeling of what are objections to sending their kids to NIU. Is it the crime, or is it an impression that ISU is a better school? I talked to a couple parents of college-aged kids, I talked up NIU, and I was basically told that they do not want to send their kids to DeKalb because of the criminal activity making it like Chicago west.

I graduated HS in 2014 in the Springfield area, and while I was looking at schools, DeKalb did have the reputation as a dangerous town, but, not as bad of a rep as Western Illinois and Southern Illinois in that regard. It wasn't the main reason I decided not to go there.

Ultimately, I decided to go out of state to Wisconsin-Whitewater and save myself a ton of money rather than pay 30k/year at NIU or IL St. It cost me about 13k out of state at UW-W versus 27k + at state schools. I would say half the students at UW-W are from Illinois for this exact reason.

Illinois State was my runner-up: Bloomington is nice, has a lot of very large companies for internships, etc.

I did like my trip to NIU, and have been a fan of the football team since I was in high school (Jordan Lynch era). Really, it came down to cost, and it was cheaper to leave the state by a large margin.
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RE: 2022 enrollment
(09-08-2022 02:22 PM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 01:21 PM)Schaefer Beer Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 12:21 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 11:57 AM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 11:54 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  I agree the issue exists on the majority of major campuses currently, makes it worse that some can market their way around the issue and NIU's leadership can't.

The city of Dekalb and NIU need to work together on this. First on the image issue, second, actually getting to the root of the problem, i.e., reducing crime. You can't stop it all, but DeKalb and the county need to do something about the blighted areas.

DeKalb needs to do what the city of Chicago did to send the gang bangers to DeKalb.
Well redoing downtown was a first step to regentrification. Will DeKalb City create TIF's?

Everybody assumes that gangs come from Chicago. But they also maybe coming from Rockford or Aurora.
But we really should be looking at the long-term solution is to lift everybody's socio-economic value so people do have to join gangs to survive.

I was in law enforcement a long time, and these "socio-economic" issues are global and endemic in nature. Focusing on that on a macro level is for NIU/DeKalb is as effective as trying to stop "climate change" on a local level.

It's now surprise as sentences and jail terms are reduced and law enforcement is vilified, crime has risen. And I'm talking about violent offenders, although the "quality of life" crimes such as shoplifting has reduced many urban downtowns into dystopias.

And most criminal don't steal to "survive" ,it's to avoid long term commitments to work.

I understand that change isn't going to happen overnight and it will take a lot of time that my great-grandkids will probably never see it's full effect but it has to start sometime. If lives improves just a little bit every year,, it's a start.

And people that steal because they don't want to work are called Grifters and Con-Artists. And unfortunately we don't seem to arrests those people.
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RE: 2022 enrollment
(09-09-2022 06:42 AM)Schaefer Beer Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 02:22 PM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 01:21 PM)Schaefer Beer Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 12:21 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 11:57 AM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  The city of Dekalb and NIU need to work together on this. First on the image issue, second, actually getting to the root of the problem, i.e., reducing crime. You can't stop it all, but DeKalb and the county need to do something about the blighted areas.

DeKalb needs to do what the city of Chicago did to send the gang bangers to DeKalb.
Well redoing downtown was a first step to regentrification. Will DeKalb City create TIF's?

Everybody assumes that gangs come from Chicago. But they also maybe coming from Rockford or Aurora.
But we really should be looking at the long-term solution is to lift everybody's socio-economic value so people do have to join gangs to survive.

I was in law enforcement a long time, and these "socio-economic" issues are global and endemic in nature. Focusing on that on a macro level is for NIU/DeKalb is as effective as trying to stop "climate change" on a local level.

It's now surprise as sentences and jail terms are reduced and law enforcement is vilified, crime has risen. And I'm talking about violent offenders, although the "quality of life" crimes such as shoplifting has reduced many urban downtowns into dystopias.

And most criminal don't steal to "survive" ,it's to avoid long term commitments to work.

I understand that change isn't going to happen overnight and it will take a lot of time that my great-grandkids will probably never see it's full effect but it has to start sometime. If lives improves just a little bit every year,, it's a start.

And people that steal because they don't want to work are called Grifters and Con-Artists. And unfortunately we don't seem to arrests those people.

We (the country and more specifically...the federal government) has billions upon billions (if not trillions) of dollars to spend on community building in places like Afghanistan or Iraq (often to fix problems we create) or to spend on a proxy war in Ukraine but seemingly nothing to spend on rust belt cities or Appalachia or urban areas like the south side of Chicago or LA or Detroit.
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(09-09-2022 06:42 AM)Schaefer Beer Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 02:22 PM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 01:21 PM)Schaefer Beer Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 12:21 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 11:57 AM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  The city of Dekalb and NIU need to work together on this. First on the image issue, second, actually getting to the root of the problem, i.e., reducing crime. You can't stop it all, but DeKalb and the county need to do something about the blighted areas.

DeKalb needs to do what the city of Chicago did to send the gang bangers to DeKalb.
Well redoing downtown was a first step to regentrification. Will DeKalb City create TIF's?

Everybody assumes that gangs come from Chicago. But they also maybe coming from Rockford or Aurora.
But we really should be looking at the long-term solution is to lift everybody's socio-economic value so people do have to join gangs to survive.

I was in law enforcement a long time, and these "socio-economic" issues are global and endemic in nature. Focusing on that on a macro level is for NIU/DeKalb is as effective as trying to stop "climate change" on a local level.

It's now surprise as sentences and jail terms are reduced and law enforcement is vilified, crime has risen. And I'm talking about violent offenders, although the "quality of life" crimes such as shoplifting has reduced many urban downtowns into dystopias.

And most criminal don't steal to "survive" ,it's to avoid long term commitments to work.

I understand that change isn't going to happen overnight and it will take a lot of time that my great-grandkids will probably never see it's full effect but it has to start sometime. If lives improves just a little bit every year,, it's a start.

And people that steal because they don't want to work are called Grifters and Con-Artists. And unfortunately we don't seem to arrests those people.

We are definitely arresting people. We have a larger prison population (and percent of population) than pretty much every country on planet Earth.
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(09-09-2022 07:53 AM)Big Red Wrote:  
(09-09-2022 06:42 AM)Schaefer Beer Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 02:22 PM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 01:21 PM)Schaefer Beer Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 12:21 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  DeKalb needs to do what the city of Chicago did to send the gang bangers to DeKalb.
Well redoing downtown was a first step to regentrification. Will DeKalb City create TIF's?

Everybody assumes that gangs come from Chicago. But they also maybe coming from Rockford or Aurora.
But we really should be looking at the long-term solution is to lift everybody's socio-economic value so people do have to join gangs to survive.

I was in law enforcement a long time, and these "socio-economic" issues are global and endemic in nature. Focusing on that on a macro level is for NIU/DeKalb is as effective as trying to stop "climate change" on a local level.

It's now surprise as sentences and jail terms are reduced and law enforcement is vilified, crime has risen. And I'm talking about violent offenders, although the "quality of life" crimes such as shoplifting has reduced many urban downtowns into dystopias.

And most criminal don't steal to "survive" ,it's to avoid long term commitments to work.

I understand that change isn't going to happen overnight and it will take a lot of time that my great-grandkids will probably never see it's full effect but it has to start sometime. If lives improves just a little bit every year,, it's a start.

And people that steal because they don't want to work are called Grifters and Con-Artists. And unfortunately we don't seem to arrests those people.

We (the country and more specifically...the federal government) has billions upon billions (if not trillions) of dollars to spend on community building in places like Afghanistan or Iraq (often to fix problems we create) or to spend on a proxy war in Ukraine but seemingly nothing to spend on rust belt cities or Appalachia or urban areas like the south side of Chicago or LA or Detroit.

I agree. There is one group that has no problem funding wars for their own interests Haliburton and Blackwater come to mind, but voted down every infrastructure bill that would would help build up America. We need to stop rewarding and not elect them.
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(09-09-2022 10:10 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(09-09-2022 06:42 AM)Schaefer Beer Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 02:22 PM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 01:21 PM)Schaefer Beer Wrote:  
(09-08-2022 12:21 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  DeKalb needs to do what the city of Chicago did to send the gang bangers to DeKalb.
Well redoing downtown was a first step to regentrification. Will DeKalb City create TIF's?

Everybody assumes that gangs come from Chicago. But they also maybe coming from Rockford or Aurora.
But we really should be looking at the long-term solution is to lift everybody's socio-economic value so people do have to join gangs to survive.

I was in law enforcement a long time, and these "socio-economic" issues are global and endemic in nature. Focusing on that on a macro level is for NIU/DeKalb is as effective as trying to stop "climate change" on a local level.

It's now surprise as sentences and jail terms are reduced and law enforcement is vilified, crime has risen. And I'm talking about violent offenders, although the "quality of life" crimes such as shoplifting has reduced many urban downtowns into dystopias.

And most criminal don't steal to "survive" ,it's to avoid long term commitments to work.

I understand that change isn't going to happen overnight and it will take a lot of time that my great-grandkids will probably never see it's full effect but it has to start sometime. If lives improves just a little bit every year,, it's a start.

And people that steal because they don't want to work are called Grifters and Con-Artists. And unfortunately we don't seem to arrests those people.

We are definitely arresting people. We have a larger prison population (and percent of population) than pretty much every country on planet Earth.
I know we arrest a lot of people, the prison is filled with brown and black people, but I was referring to Grifters and Con-Artists, they always seem to be above the law.
09-10-2022 02:37 AM
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