(12-06-2022 11:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 11:02 AM)Sicembear11 Wrote:  Remaining Ratings have released:

SEC Champ: Georgia-LSU 10.89M
B1G Champ: Michigan-Purdue 10.7M
Big 12 Champ: KSU-TCU 9.41M
PAC Champ: USC-Utah 5.97M
ACC Champ: Clemson-UNC 3.47M
AAC Champ: Tulane-UCF 2.7M
MWC Champ: Fresno-Boise 1.94M
MAC Champ: Toledo-Ohio 721K
SWAC Champ: Southern-JSU 391K
Sun Belt Champ: Coastal-Troy 332K

Big 12 pulled really well. Almost as many viewers as the PAC and ACC combined. Second straight year with very high ratings without Texas/OU in the title match. Of consideration was the US World Cup game which was competing in the same timeslot and drew (relatively) well.

Those are strong ratings for everyone except the ACC, whose ratings were basically G5 level.

And it’s the second year in a row. Last year it was ascribed to the fact it was Pitt v WF, but this year in was Clemson which is one of its largest brands and UNC, one of the flagships of the conference.

(12-06-2022 11:38 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 11:02 AM)Sicembear11 Wrote:  Remaining Ratings have released:

SEC Champ: Georgia-LSU 10.89M
B1G Champ: Michigan-Purdue 10.7M
Big 12 Champ: KSU-TCU 9.41M
PAC Champ: USC-Utah 5.97M
ACC Champ: Clemson-UNC 3.47M
AAC Champ: Tulane-UCF 2.7M
MWC Champ: Fresno-Boise 1.94M
MAC Champ: Toledo-Ohio 721K
SWAC Champ: Southern-JSU 391K
Sun Belt Champ: Coastal-Troy 332K

Big 12 pulled really well. Almost as many viewers as the PAC and ACC combined. Second straight year with very high ratings without Texas/OU in the title match. Of consideration was the US World Cup game which was competing in the same timeslot and drew (relatively) well.

Well, actually...
The US World Cup match concluded quite nicely before the KState game. Tidy move from futbol to football in this house. Australia -Argentina did 8.3 million between Fox and Telemundo, but probably had less impact than a US match would have.

That reminds me, over Thanksgiving I was at brother in law's house, we had a choice of HS football or US in World Cup. His wife is a lifelong avid soccer player, so we made her watch the soccer game outside on the porch TV while we enjoyed some HS football.

(12-07-2022 04:51 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 11:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 11:02 AM)Sicembear11 Wrote:  Remaining Ratings have released:

SEC Champ: Georgia-LSU 10.89M
B1G Champ: Michigan-Purdue 10.7M
Big 12 Champ: KSU-TCU 9.41M
PAC Champ: USC-Utah 5.97M
ACC Champ: Clemson-UNC 3.47M
AAC Champ: Tulane-UCF 2.7M
MWC Champ: Fresno-Boise 1.94M
MAC Champ: Toledo-Ohio 721K
SWAC Champ: Southern-JSU 391K
Sun Belt Champ: Coastal-Troy 332K

Big 12 pulled really well. Almost as many viewers as the PAC and ACC combined. Second straight year with very high ratings without Texas/OU in the title match. Of consideration was the US World Cup game which was competing in the same timeslot and drew (relatively) well.

Those are strong ratings for everyone except the ACC, whose ratings were basically G5 level.

And it’s the second year in a row. Last year it was ascribed to the fact it was Pitt v WF, but this year in was Clemson which is one of its largest brands and UNC, one of the flagships of the conference.

I just can't get my head wrapped around that ACC game. 2 years in a row with abysmal ratings, and this year is was 2 of the 3 biggest/best brands in the Conference. It's starting to make me wonder if the P2 will end up taking anybody at all.

(12-06-2022 08:24 PM)bullet Wrote:  Saw a post attributed to ESPN that the TCU-KSU game peaked at 12.7 million viewers (probably during OT), the highest of any game last weekend.

It was probably during the game-tying drive when Duggan rushed for 95 yards to complete an 80-yard drive. He's a red-haired Targaryen and we were all just living in the House of the Duggan.

Not a bad TV rating for two teams dubbed as part of the "L8" not too long ago.

(12-06-2022 03:44 PM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 03:15 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 02:22 PM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  People talk about "Blue blood", but it really is a minor factor, especially this time of year. Ratings are driven by rankings and playoff/ postseason relevance.

it matters. Michigan-Purdue was not an attractive matchup, but Michigan is a great TV draw. If Texas and OU were in the same position as TCU and KSU, it would have been really huge ratings.

But rankings/relevance are also big attractions.

I think when you control for all variables (rankings, network, window, competing games/ sports), it really doesn't matter that much, especially this time of year. Maybe early in the season a name can carry viewership, but college football fans are attracted to games that matter in the national picture, first and foremost. Obviously, "name" programs are more consistently ranked and tend to be in games that matter more than non "name" programs. But media partners in every league put the most nationally relevant games/teams in their preferred windows, because that is the most important predictor of ratings.

I disagree, playoff implications aren't as important as you might think. Clemson has had more playoff success, but doesn't come close to matching the blue blood draw of Penn State, Ohio State or Michigan even in years when the B1G championship isn't for a playoff berth -

(12-07-2022 10:21 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  

(12-07-2022 08:10 AM)schmolik Wrote:  Here's the ACC (and Big Ten) in previous years in millions):

2022: Clem-UNC: 3.47 (Mich-Pur 10.70)
2021: Pitt-WF: 2.661 (Mich-Iowa 11.658)
2020: Clem-ND: 9.92 (OSU-NW 8.03) - Games did not air opposite each other
2019: Clem-Va: 3.97 (OSU-Wisc 13.55)
2018: Clem-Pitt: 4.236 (OSU-NW 8.659)
2017: Clem-Mia: 5.428 (OSU-Wisc 12.918)
2016: Clem-VaT: 5.338 (PSU-Wisc 9.189)

Certainly when Clemson was in the CFP chase the ACC's ratings were higher and in 2020 with Notre Dame they were through the charts but the biggest problem with the ACC's ratings has to be the Big Ten. I don't know if the ACC can talk ABC into the noon ET slot with the Big 12 doing so well the last two years. Once the SEC comes to ABC, someone is going to have to compete annually with the Big Ten, we know it won't be the SEC, and this is assuming the Pac 12 doesn't want to move their championship game back to Saturday. Who knows, ESPN might tell the ACC you either have to go to Friday night or to ESPN instead of ABC.

I think this shows the weakness of Clemson and the ACC overall as a draw, despite the Tiger's great success over the last 10 years. There's 6 Clemson games on that list, and without ND in the game they never did better than 58% of the B1G rating (vs. VA Tech in 2016). This despite Clemson being playoff bound in all of those years until last year, and the B1G won handily even in years where Clemson was a playoff team and their championship game didn't have one at all - 2016, 2017, 2018.

(12-07-2022 05:10 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 03:44 PM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 03:15 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 02:22 PM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  People talk about "Blue blood", but it really is a minor factor, especially this time of year. Ratings are driven by rankings and playoff/ postseason relevance.

it matters. Michigan-Purdue was not an attractive matchup, but Michigan is a great TV draw. If Texas and OU were in the same position as TCU and KSU, it would have been really huge ratings.

But rankings/relevance are also big attractions.

I think when you control for all variables (rankings, network, window, competing games/ sports), it really doesn't matter that much, especially this time of year. Maybe early in the season a name can carry viewership, but college football fans are attracted to games that matter in the national picture, first and foremost. Obviously, "name" programs are more consistently ranked and tend to be in games that matter more than non "name" programs. But media partners in every league put the most nationally relevant games/teams in their preferred windows, because that is the most important predictor of ratings.

I disagree, playoff implications aren't as important as you might think. Clemson has had more playoff success, but doesn't come close to matching the blue blood draw of Penn State, Ohio State or Michigan even in years when the B1G championship isn't for a playoff berth -

(12-07-2022 10:21 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  

(12-07-2022 08:10 AM)schmolik Wrote:  Here's the ACC (and Big Ten) in previous years in millions):

2022: Clem-UNC: 3.47 (Mich-Pur 10.70)
2021: Pitt-WF: 2.661 (Mich-Iowa 11.658)
2020: Clem-ND: 9.92 (OSU-NW 8.03) - Games did not air opposite each other
2019: Clem-Va: 3.97 (OSU-Wisc 13.55)
2018: Clem-Pitt: 4.236 (OSU-NW 8.659)
2017: Clem-Mia: 5.428 (OSU-Wisc 12.918)
2016: Clem-VaT: 5.338 (PSU-Wisc 9.189)

Certainly when Clemson was in the CFP chase the ACC's ratings were higher and in 2020 with Notre Dame they were through the charts but the biggest problem with the ACC's ratings has to be the Big Ten. I don't know if the ACC can talk ABC into the noon ET slot with the Big 12 doing so well the last two years. Once the SEC comes to ABC, someone is going to have to compete annually with the Big Ten, we know it won't be the SEC, and this is assuming the Pac 12 doesn't want to move their championship game back to Saturday. Who knows, ESPN might tell the ACC you either have to go to Friday night or to ESPN instead of ABC.

I think this shows the weakness of Clemson and the ACC overall as a draw, despite the Tiger's great success over the last 10 years. There's 6 Clemson games on that list, and without ND in the game they never did better than 58% of the B1G rating (vs. VA Tech in 2016). This despite Clemson being playoff bound in all of those years until last year, and the B1G won handily even in years where Clemson was a playoff team and their championship game didn't have one at all - 2016, 2017, 2018.

This is particularly noteworthy when you consider that the big 12 CCG has been very strong the past 2 years even with 4 different leftovers with small-ish fanbases. Clemson doesn't need to beat PSU to get a P2 invite, but it would be nice if they could at least get within 50% of Baylor or TCU.

it'll be interesting to see long term if the Big 12 title game remains at noon basically unopposed while ACC remains at night(up against Big Ten).

Courtesy of Reddit College Football and Medium.com.



The top of the list seem obvious. Tennessee had a great year and tons of people watched. Florida coming in at #11 for a 6-7 tells you something.

Florida State did average over 2M viewers, 2nd among ACC full members behind Clemson who won the ACC.

Oregon outdrew USC even though USC played for the Pac 12 Championship game and Oregon didn't.

The surprising team missing? Oklahoma. This tells you a 6-7 Oklahoma doesn't sell, a 4-8 Nebraska team outdrew them.