(09-04-2022 01:28 PM)HornFrogFan Wrote:  I personally don't want to add anymore teams from G5 leagues. The only P5 level programs that were stuck in G5 leagues (or independent) are joining the conference next year. I don't think there are anymore schools that are at the level of the four joining us next year, SDSU included.

Just my opinion.

Yeah pretty much. Louisville, Cincinnati, TCU, UCF, and Houston are basically the only teams which repeatedly finished highly ranked and in the modern era went to major bowl games. Boise State is the only other team. When I look down the list I don't see any other teams which could make the case for being a P5 team. However, I see lots of P5 teams who don't make the case for being included in the P5. That's the real rub. There's several teams which should be demoted.

(09-09-2022 07:17 AM)HornFrogFan Wrote:  

(09-08-2022 12:18 AM)bear2be2 Wrote:  The game was a sellout. The fans just didn't make it to/stay in their seats because of the heat.

I actually have some sympathy here for the SDSU fans. I saw the TicTok video that was making the rounds about everyone hiding under the stadium because of the heat.

We just went through 2 1/2 months of 100+ degree temps with crazy humidity here in Texas over the summer. I wouldn't want to sit in a stadium with no shade either in those conditions.

The heat really does play a factor - I know they were really worried about the heat in Austin when Fox initially scheduled the UT/Alabama game for the noon kickoff. Luckily for the athletes it looks like tomorrow will have reasonable weather for this time of year.

i get the weather - we all endure it at times - but, the only way, to me, that SDSU makes sense, is as a block to the PAC - if we take 1, 2, (whatever number), SDSU would make sense as, maybe, a filler, and to block the PAC from a "so cal" school - to box the PAC in a bit - i don't know if thats enough to justify adding them

punt god a bad hombre

(09-09-2022 09:18 AM)dave108 Wrote:  

(09-09-2022 07:17 AM)HornFrogFan Wrote:  

(09-08-2022 12:18 AM)bear2be2 Wrote:  The game was a sellout. The fans just didn't make it to/stay in their seats because of the heat.

I actually have some sympathy here for the SDSU fans. I saw the TicTok video that was making the rounds about everyone hiding under the stadium because of the heat.

We just went through 2 1/2 months of 100+ degree temps with crazy humidity here in Texas over the summer. I wouldn't want to sit in a stadium with no shade either in those conditions.

The heat really does play a factor - I know they were really worried about the heat in Austin when Fox initially scheduled the UT/Alabama game for the noon kickoff. Luckily for the athletes it looks like tomorrow will have reasonable weather for this time of year.

i get the weather - we all endure it at times - but, the only way, to me, that SDSU makes sense, is as a block to the PAC - if we take 1, 2, (whatever number), SDSU would make sense as, maybe, a filler, and to block the PAC from a "so cal" school - to box the PAC in a bit - i don't know if thats enough to justify adding them

I don't think it is. I wasn't advocating for adding SDSU - just that I think in this case that the weather was a legitimate excuse for the poor attendance at the first game of their new stadium.

(09-04-2022 12:21 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(09-04-2022 11:30 AM)EZ rider Wrote:  Did you see the temperature and heat index for the game?

I know it was very hot for San Diego, but 91 degrees (only 42% humidity) is par for the course in much of the country for opening weekend. It was still otherwise beautiful weather, a PAC-12 opponent, and a brand new stadium. Very disappointing and more like what I'd expect USF's first home game in their new stadium (if it even happens) to look like.

What a bunch of puttsies. If people didn't go to UCF games because of the heat and humidity we wouldn't have many fans there either. My opinion of SDS has changed.

(09-09-2022 09:18 AM)knight_02 Wrote:  

(09-04-2022 01:28 PM)HornFrogFan Wrote:  I personally don't want to add anymore teams from G5 leagues. The only P5 level programs that were stuck in G5 leagues (or independent) are joining the conference next year. I don't think there are anymore schools that are at the level of the four joining us next year, SDSU included.

Just my opinion.

Yeah pretty much. Louisville, Cincinnati, TCU, UCF, and Houston are basically the only teams which repeatedly finished highly ranked and in the modern era went to major bowl games. Boise State is the only other team. When I look down the list I don't see any other teams which could make the case for being a P5 team. However, I see lots of P5 teams who don't make the case for being included in the P5. That's the real rub. There's several teams which should be demoted.

In fairness to Memphis, they would make your list under that criteria. They averaged almost 10 wins per season from 2015-19 and played in the Cotton Bowl the final year of that stretch.

Unfortunately for the Tigers, they seem to be leveling off some now under Silverfield.

(09-03-2022 05:29 PM)The WEST is the BEST Wrote:  For those suggesting Big 12 invites SDSU, did you see all the empty seats for the first game in their new stadium?

It was a sellout. Temps were 100 degrees with 67% humidity. Many were in the shaded concourses and some left early. We had a record breaking heat event (hottest day on record) and it was like that for more than a week prior.

Tomorrow's game may have high winds, rain and lightning. Again, not normal, but we had a hurricane turn into a tropical storm coming at us. Nice thing it the temps have dropped.

(09-04-2022 12:21 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(09-04-2022 11:30 AM)EZ rider Wrote:  Did you see the temperature and heat index for the game?

I know it was very hot for San Diego, but 91 degrees (only 42% humidity) is par for the course in much of the country for opening weekend. It was still otherwise beautiful weather, a PAC-12 opponent, and a brand new stadium. Very disappointing and more like what I'd expect USF's first home game in their new stadium (if it even happens) to look like.

It was hotter than that and with higher humidity, in the 67% range. I live just 3 miles east of the stadium and it was 90 degrees at midnight according to my weather station.

(09-04-2022 12:21 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(09-04-2022 11:30 AM)EZ rider Wrote:  Did you see the temperature and heat index for the game?

I know it was very hot for San Diego, but 91 degrees (only 42% humidity) is par for the course in much of the country for opening weekend. It was still otherwise beautiful weather, a PAC-12 opponent, and a brand new stadium. Very disappointing and more like what I'd expect USF's first home game in their new stadium (if it even happens) to look like.

Both USC and UCLA played games and both had low attendance. SDSU, at least sold out.

(09-05-2022 10:34 AM)YNot Wrote:  

(09-04-2022 12:21 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(09-04-2022 11:30 AM)EZ rider Wrote:  Did you see the temperature and heat index for the game?

I know it was very hot for San Diego, but 91 degrees (only 42% humidity) is par for the course in much of the country for opening weekend. It was still otherwise beautiful weather, a PAC-12 opponent, and a brand new stadium. Very disappointing and more like what I'd expect USF's first home game in their new stadium (if it even happens) to look like.

That is hot and humid for San Diego. But, it illustrates the fair-weather fan problem in much of the West.

On a similar note, UCLA's stadium was empty. I think announced attendance was around 27K or so, but it looked like literally half of that on TV.

TV viewership was 921K against some pretty good competition. That is what really matters.

(09-09-2022 06:58 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  

(09-05-2022 10:34 AM)YNot Wrote:  

(09-04-2022 12:21 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(09-04-2022 11:30 AM)EZ rider Wrote:  Did you see the temperature and heat index for the game?

I know it was very hot for San Diego, but 91 degrees (only 42% humidity) is par for the course in much of the country for opening weekend. It was still otherwise beautiful weather, a PAC-12 opponent, and a brand new stadium. Very disappointing and more like what I'd expect USF's first home game in their new stadium (if it even happens) to look like.

That is hot and humid for San Diego. But, it illustrates the fair-weather fan problem in much of the West.

On a similar note, UCLA's stadium was empty. I think announced attendance was around 27K or so, but it looked like literally half of that on TV.

TV viewership was 921K against some pretty good competition. That is what really matters.

I like the idea to have SDSU in the Big 12. Unfortunately, fewer than 1 million viewers on CBS is a poor number, even if up against Oregon-Georgia on ABC, Cincy-Arkansas on ESPN, and UTEP-Oklahoma on FOX.

(09-12-2022 12:24 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(09-09-2022 06:58 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  

(09-05-2022 10:34 AM)YNot Wrote:  

(09-04-2022 12:21 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(09-04-2022 11:30 AM)EZ rider Wrote:  Did you see the temperature and heat index for the game?

I know it was very hot for San Diego, but 91 degrees (only 42% humidity) is par for the course in much of the country for opening weekend. It was still otherwise beautiful weather, a PAC-12 opponent, and a brand new stadium. Very disappointing and more like what I'd expect USF's first home game in their new stadium (if it even happens) to look like.

That is hot and humid for San Diego. But, it illustrates the fair-weather fan problem in much of the West.

On a similar note, UCLA's stadium was empty. I think announced attendance was around 27K or so, but it looked like literally half of that on TV.

TV viewership was 921K against some pretty good competition. That is what really matters.

I like the idea to have SDSU in the Big 12. Unfortunately, fewer than 1 million viewers on CBS is a poor number, even if up against Oregon-Georgia on ABC, Cincy-Arkansas on ESPN, and UTEP-Oklahoma on FOX.

If they were valuable, the PAC would have added them. PLEASE STOP!

(09-12-2022 05:21 PM)doss2 Wrote:  

(09-12-2022 12:24 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(09-09-2022 06:58 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  

(09-05-2022 10:34 AM)YNot Wrote:  

(09-04-2022 12:21 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  I know it was very hot for San Diego, but 91 degrees (only 42% humidity) is par for the course in much of the country for opening weekend. It was still otherwise beautiful weather, a PAC-12 opponent, and a brand new stadium. Very disappointing and more like what I'd expect USF's first home game in their new stadium (if it even happens) to look like.

That is hot and humid for San Diego. But, it illustrates the fair-weather fan problem in much of the West.

On a similar note, UCLA's stadium was empty. I think announced attendance was around 27K or so, but it looked like literally half of that on TV.

TV viewership was 921K against some pretty good competition. That is what really matters.

I like the idea to have SDSU in the Big 12. Unfortunately, fewer than 1 million viewers on CBS is a poor number, even if up against Oregon-Georgia on ABC, Cincy-Arkansas on ESPN, and UTEP-Oklahoma on FOX.

If they were valuable, the PAC would have added them. PLEASE STOP!

You couldn’t be more wrong. SC and UCLA didn’t want us in the conference as they wanted to own all of Southern California and it’s recruiting riches. Elevating SDSU would have created direct competition to their most prized asset. Up until 10 years ago it took 100% agreement of the member schools to invite others and no way SC and UCLA were going to elevate sdsu. Even if it didn’t take 100% like it hasn’t since 2012 the school didn’t want to piss them off as they were so valuable. Things have now changed and I’m very hopeful sdsu gets the invitation they’ve been dreaming of since they became Division 1 in the 70s.

(09-13-2022 09:38 AM)SDSUguy Wrote:  

(09-12-2022 05:21 PM)doss2 Wrote:  

(09-12-2022 12:24 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(09-09-2022 06:58 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  

(09-05-2022 10:34 AM)YNot Wrote:  That is hot and humid for San Diego. But, it illustrates the fair-weather fan problem in much of the West.

On a similar note, UCLA's stadium was empty. I think announced attendance was around 27K or so, but it looked like literally half of that on TV.

TV viewership was 921K against some pretty good competition. That is what really matters.

I like the idea to have SDSU in the Big 12. Unfortunately, fewer than 1 million viewers on CBS is a poor number, even if up against Oregon-Georgia on ABC, Cincy-Arkansas on ESPN, and UTEP-Oklahoma on FOX.

If they were valuable, the PAC would have added them. PLEASE STOP!

You couldn’t be more wrong. SC and UCLA didn’t want us in the conference as they wanted to own all of Southern California and it’s recruiting riches. Elevating SDSU would have created direct competition to their most prized asset. Up until 10 years ago it took 100% agreement of the member schools to invite others and no way SC and UCLA were going to elevate sdsu. Even if it didn’t take 100% like it hasn’t since 2012 the school didn’t want to piss them off as they were so valuable. Things have now changed and I’m very hopeful sdsu gets the invitation they’ve been dreaming of since they became Division 1 in the 70s.

They will be part of the new PAC/MW

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(09-09-2022 05:15 PM)knightmite Wrote:  

(09-04-2022 12:21 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(09-04-2022 11:30 AM)EZ rider Wrote:  Did you see the temperature and heat index for the game?

I know it was very hot for San Diego, but 91 degrees (only 42% humidity) is par for the course in much of the country for opening weekend. It was still otherwise beautiful weather, a PAC-12 opponent, and a brand new stadium. Very disappointing and more like what I'd expect USF's first home game in their new stadium (if it even happens) to look like.

What a bunch of puttsies. If people didn't go to UCF games because of the heat and humidity we wouldn't have many fans there either. My opinion of SDS has changed.

We deal with that all the time, Makes little difference to Florida folks. It would be more like Florida fans when it is 20 degrees and showers.

(09-09-2022 10:24 AM)UTSA_Alum Wrote:  punt god a bad hombre

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(09-09-2022 06:48 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  

(09-03-2022 05:29 PM)The WEST is the BEST Wrote:  For those suggesting Big 12 invites SDSU, did you see all the empty seats for the first game in their new stadium?

It was a sellout. Temps were 100 degrees with 67% humidity. Many were in the shaded concourses and some left early. We had a record breaking heat event (hottest day on record) and it was like that for more than a week prior.

Tomorrow's game may have high winds, rain and lightning. Again, not normal, but we had a hurricane turn into a tropical storm coming at us. Nice thing it the temps have dropped.

Do you have a link to a weather resource that shows that temp and humidity.

At those numbers that would be about a 140 heat index and players would have been dropping with heat exhaustion or heat stroke rapidly. I don't remember reading about massive player losses.

(09-16-2022 04:32 PM)Endless Purple Wrote:  

(09-09-2022 06:48 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  

(09-03-2022 05:29 PM)The WEST is the BEST Wrote:  For those suggesting Big 12 invites SDSU, did you see all the empty seats for the first game in their new stadium?

It was a sellout. Temps were 100 degrees with 67% humidity. Many were in the shaded concourses and some left early. We had a record breaking heat event (hottest day on record) and it was like that for more than a week prior.

Tomorrow's game may have high winds, rain and lightning. Again, not normal, but we had a hurricane turn into a tropical storm coming at us. Nice thing it the temps have dropped.

Do you have a link to a weather resource that shows that temp and humidity.

At those numbers that would be about a 140 heat index and players would have been dropping with heat exhaustion or heat stroke rapidly. I don't remember reading about massive player losses.

Gee, no. Did a search but cannot find what the weather was on Accuweather. Are you saying it wasn't hot and humid that day? Here is the report from the local CBS channel:

https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/...08dcc13258

They do not include the humidity reading however. But, 100 degreesni in Mission Valley is extremely non-normal. High 70s to mid 80s is normal. I actually live here (just 3 miles east of the stadium currently) and it was humid as hell, had been that way for well over a week, perhaps two. I am a native San Diegan of 61 years, just so you know. Oh, I stayed up late that night and at midnight my personal weather station was still at 90 degrees for temperature. It was hot.

From what I recall, the field temperature was over 120 degrees and that is on natural grass, not Field Turf. I cannot find a something to confirm the humidity, but, it was unseasonably hot here.given numerous reports that you can find if you feel the need to question me more. If you have anything to contradict what I have said then please post it. I really enjoy a good debate.

Did not say it wasn't hot, nor that the temp wasn't upper 90s or 100 at the stadium. I've been to many hot football games and seen fans passed out or in the shade of the concourse. I do think the humidity quote is a little high on the estimate. I am more curious as to the impact on health and what football guidelines come into play with a 140 heat index that can kill players in a time where lawsuits are rampant in regards to player health. Thus a link request to show the heat index and humidity.

Also as a general rule you will see humidity go down as temps go up to these extreme levels. So if San Diego is normally at 60% at 80 degrees, then it would be lower at 100 degrees. Hot air can hold a lot more water before it gets sticky or saturated, than cooler air.