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2 More States Fall in Line with California, Set to Ban Sale of Gas and Diesel Cars
I guess we’ll see more of these. 36 gallons of diesel for a 200 mile charge. This one is in Australia. We should expect to see them in other foreign countries like California and New York in the near future.

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(08-28-2022 07:20 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

it gets even mo' butterer when you realize it takes a transport to deliver the fuel required to keep that mojo 'energized'...

this exceeds the rule of 'redundant tardation'...

yep, we've inherited an entire 'higher' level of reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetard-ism...




y'all figglin' this shite out, yet....








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RE: 2 More States Fall in Line with California, Set to Ban Sale of Gas and Diesel Cars
(08-28-2022 07:20 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I guess we’ll see more of these. 36 gallons of diesel for a 200 mile charge. This one is in Australia. We should expect to see them in other foreign countries like California and New York in the near future.


Liberal moron logic 101.
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RE: 2 More States Fall in Line with California, Set to Ban Sale of Gas and Diesel Cars
(08-28-2022 07:26 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(08-28-2022 07:20 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

it gets even mo' butterer when you realize it takes a transport to deliver the fuel required to keep that mojo 'energized'...

this exceeds the rule of 'redundant tardation'...

yep, we've inherited an entire 'higher' level of reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetard-ism...




y'all figglin' this shite out, yet....








fk'n suckers


addendum: muh embedded ad for this thread .... yep, Duracell batteries .... lmmfao

Bizzaro world.
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They think their taxes are high now. Oh brother, wait till they have to make up that gas tax.
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Only the rich will be able to afford a car
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(08-28-2022 11:05 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Only the rich will be able to afford a car

Ding, ding, ding!

……and that my friends is the ultimate plan.

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RE: 2 More States Fall in Line with California, Set to Ban Sale of Gas and Diesel Cars
California’s Ban of Gas-Powered Vehicles Likely Illegal, Unrealistic


Quote:California plans to ban the sale of gas-powered cars by 2035. In 2021, California required 12 percent of total new vehicle sales to be powered by batteries or hydrogen. By 2026, their goal is to reach 35 percent. By 2030, 68 percent. And in 2035, 100 percent powered by batteries or hydrogen.

President and CEO of the Alliance for Automotive Innovation, John Bozzella, said:

“Whether or not these requirements are realistic or achievable is directly linked to external factors like inflation, charging and fuel infrastructure, supply chains, labor, critical mineral availability and pricing, and the ongoing semiconductor shortage … These are complex, intertwined and global issues.”

The Alliance for Automotive Innovation represents major automakers, so Bozzella’s statement should be taken seriously, as he notes that the ban on gas-powered vehicles and mandating people to drive electric vehicles would be “extremely challenging” for the automakers to meet the demands.

According to the Independent Women’s Forum, banning gas-powered cars is likely unconstitutional. Mandy Gunasekara states:

“First, it could violate the Commerce Clause as it creates unreasonable burdens on interstate commerce, i.e. the manufacture and sale of vehicles. The Supreme Court has long held that the Commerce Clause has been a “self-executing limitation” on the power of States to enact laws which restrict interstate commerce. Second, under the Clean Air Act, California is required to receive a waiver from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency in order to set its own, more stringent, emissions standards.”

Gunasekara also mentioned that the ban is unrealistic. She said:

“California has pushed electric vehicles for decades through a variety of tax breaks and subsidies, only 12.5% of drivers own an electric vehicle. This is a higher percentage of drivers compared to other states, but 78% of EV owners also own a second gas-powered vehicle to supplement their needs. Even with major advancements in EV technology, the reality that recharging batteries takes hours, while filling up gas tanks takes minutes, is a leading reason consumers continue to prefer gas-powered cars. EVs are also very expensive with an average cost of $54,000, most Americans cannot afford to pay luxury-level prices. This is especially the case with growing inflation.”

Not everybody wants to drive an electric vehicle; even if they could afford one, they might prefer gas-powered or hybrid. That should the individual’s choice to make.

Gunasekara explained in detail that the ban would do little for the environment, saying:

“While marketed as ‘zero emissions,’ electric vehicles have a series of environmental tradeoffs. They require 10 times the amount of minerals in their batteries compared to gas-powered engines and the majority of these minerals come from Chinese controlled mines in Africa that disregard environmental protections and regularly use child and forced labor. Further, more expensive cars mean Americans drive older vehicles longer. This trend can undercut the reach and effectiveness of safety and efficiency improvements that come with newer models.”

“Finally, this push towards electric vehicles will require more energy on the grids. California has already struggled to meet current demand and a ban on gas-powered vehicles will only make their grid problems worse.”

Not to mention Californians being able to drive to a neighboring state such as Nevada, buy the car of their choosing, and drive back to California. This ban on gas-powered vehicles is flawed, unrealistic, and likely unconstitutional.

This should go without saying, but the local, state, and federal governments should not tell the American people what they can and can’t drive. Instead of forcing their wants on Californians, they should negotiate with China, the world’s biggest carbon polluter.
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(08-28-2022 11:16 AM)Crebman Wrote:  
(08-28-2022 11:05 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Only the rich will be able to afford a car

Ding, ding, ding!

……and that my friends is the ultimate plan.

Surfs (that they allow to live) - live in an 800 sq ft box - and take a bus.

lmfao … what are they going to do?! set up camps within walking distance?!

please explain how reducing sales yields a year over year profit margin…

man, this is nothing more than a short term/quick hit ‘cash grab’ that will end like the Edsel … the only difference is your tax $$$ are subsidizing such…

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(08-27-2022 06:52 PM)Claw Wrote:  So far it only bans new vehicles.

California is going to look like Cuba in short order

I didnt take the time to read it (college football season and I try to watch every game or with my youtube tv scan them with important plays....not much time for these things) so they still allow used car sales? Did they define what is used and what can or can't be sold from out of state?

If not there is going to be a lot of used cars with very little mileage being sold.

I'm 100% against this because I believe you let the market dictate what sells. But I say that and also have my paid order for a Ford Lightning and just waiting (been told 3 to 6 months) on a delivery date. I would never do this if it was my only vehicle or if I was planning on using it anywhere other than city driving. I test drove one and loved the truck.

I also have a order in for the 2023 Chevrolet Corvette just like the one pictured below. Hope I live long enough to get to own and drive it... told 18 to 24 month wait. As a WKU fan it was hard for me not to go with the red and black but this orange and black just jumped out at me. Normally I dont care for orange. I will be 64 or 65 when I get it but there's no question I will top it out at the 206 or so at some point. I165 (formerly Natcher parkway) has 20 mile without a exit so I will get one of my sons to go 15 miles in front of me and pull over and watch for the police and another in back of me. Its hardly traveled at 6 am so I'm going to top it out. On the street, not a track.

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