(09-01-2022 11:53 AM)random asian guy Wrote:  https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...atform=amp

“I continue to believe the ACC is strong, and among the very best all-around conferences in the nation," Phillips told ESPN. "I'm confident in our desire of staying together. I know that there's a lot of rumors and speculation. We all understand people want answers and certainty. But we're really aligned right now, and we feel like we got some really good solutions to address some of the revenue gap. But it can't be at the expense of all of these things that we're doing.

What’s the solution?

It feels like Commish Phillips is working on a new slogan for the ACC: "We're the okayest of conferences...come hang out with us for a little while!"

Disgruntled Fan of Team in the ACC

(09-01-2022 11:53 AM)random asian guy Wrote:  https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...atform=amp

“I continue to believe the ACC is strong, and among the very best all-around conferences in the nation," Phillips told ESPN. "I'm confident in our desire of staying together. I know that there's a lot of rumors and speculation. We all understand people want answers and certainty. But we're really aligned right now, and we feel like we got some really good solutions to address some of the revenue gap. But it can't be at the expense of all of these things that we're doing.

What’s the solution?

What a joke? I have not heard more delusional talk in my life!

"We all desire to stay together." Read the room, Jim. Just because people tell you they want to stay together doesnt mean that they arent planning their exit strategy. Do you think UCLA was advertising their desire to leave? What are you doing? Where is the leadership? Where is the plan. Where are the "really good solutions"?

ESPN mentions in the next paragraph, un-even distribution. That sure will keep the conference together. That worked so well for Texas and Oklahoma. I am glad our solution to save the sinking ship is to throw conference members overboard.

I can't even believe he goes on to mention his trips to watch ACC games. I know every comissioner does this, but seriously you have nothing else to talk about. How about instead of sitting down and taking it from ESPN, you expand to leverage a larger ACC against ESPN?Expansion opens up the contract. Bet on yourselves and gain value no matter how large you have to make yourself.

A western wing and central wing would solidify the ACC as conference 3 an entity that can ensure a healthy middle class. An organization that can leverage the networks against each other as something they would need to have.

What are we paying Phillips for? Is he contracted to make a certain number of 60s era NCAA speechs per season?

What does he even mean by "it cant be at the expense of what we are already doing" What are we even doing? Signing conference marketing deals for pennies is not going to close the gap. The revenue will need to come from the broadcasters. Make that happen. Phillips has not brought a dime of new media money in during his tenure. The rollout of ACCN was already in process before Phillips came aboard. Again I said what are we doing here? Why are we paying you so much to keep the boat hurtling toward the iceberg?

(09-01-2022 02:17 PM)LeeNobody Wrote:  

(09-01-2022 11:53 AM)random asian guy Wrote:  https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...atform=amp

“I continue to believe the ACC is strong, and among the very best all-around conferences in the nation," Phillips told ESPN. "I'm confident in our desire of staying together. I know that there's a lot of rumors and speculation. We all understand people want answers and certainty. But we're really aligned right now, and we feel like we got some really good solutions to address some of the revenue gap. But it can't be at the expense of all of these things that we're doing.

What’s the solution?

What a joke? I have not heard more delusional talk in my life!

"We all desire to stay together." Read the room, Jim. Just because people tell you they want to stay together doesnt mean that they arent planning their exit strategy. Do you think UCLA was advertising their desire to leave? What are you doing? Where is the leadership? Where is the plan. Where are the "really good solutions"?

ESPN mentions in the next paragraph, un-even distribution. That sure will keep the conference together. That worked so well for Texas and Oklahoma. I am glad our solution to save the sinking ship is to throw conference members overboard.

I can't even believe he goes on to mention his trips to watch ACC games. I know every comissioner does this, but seriously you have nothing else to talk about. How about instead of sitting down and taking it from ESPN, you expand to leverage a larger ACC against ESPN?Expansion opens up the contract. Bet on yourselves and gain value no matter how large you have to make yourself.

A western wing and central wing would solidify the ACC as conference 3 an entity that can ensure a healthy middle class. An organization that can leverage the networks against each other as something they would need to have.

What are we paying Phillips for? Is he contracted to make a certain number of 60s era NCAA speechs per season?

What does he even mean by "it cant be at the expense of what we are already doing" What are we even doing? Signing conference marketing deals for pennies is not going to close the gap. The revenue will need to come from the broadcasters. Make that happen. Phillips has not brought a dime of new media money in during his tenure. The rollout of ACCN was already in process before Phillips came aboard. Again I said what are we doing here? Why are we paying you so much to keep the boat hurtling toward the iceberg?

I think a former CEO at Sears & Roebuck made a similar statement 10 so years ago. Mighta been K-Mart. Just swap "conference" with "company". Phillips can keep collecting his paycheck while yucking it up with his golf buddies.

(09-01-2022 02:17 PM)LeeNobody Wrote:  "We all desire to stay together."

Clemson, FSU, Miami in unison: "No, Jim, we don't"

(09-01-2022 02:25 PM)GarnetAndBlue Wrote:  

(09-01-2022 02:17 PM)LeeNobody Wrote:  

(09-01-2022 11:53 AM)random asian guy Wrote:  https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...atform=amp

“I continue to believe the ACC is strong, and among the very best all-around conferences in the nation," Phillips told ESPN. "I'm confident in our desire of staying together. I know that there's a lot of rumors and speculation. We all understand people want answers and certainty. But we're really aligned right now, and we feel like we got some really good solutions to address some of the revenue gap. But it can't be at the expense of all of these things that we're doing.

What’s the solution?

What a joke? I have not heard more delusional talk in my life!

"We all desire to stay together." Read the room, Jim. Just because people tell you they want to stay together doesnt mean that they arent planning their exit strategy. Do you think UCLA was advertising their desire to leave? What are you doing? Where is the leadership? Where is the plan. Where are the "really good solutions"?

ESPN mentions in the next paragraph, un-even distribution. That sure will keep the conference together. That worked so well for Texas and Oklahoma. I am glad our solution to save the sinking ship is to throw conference members overboard.

I can't even believe he goes on to mention his trips to watch ACC games. I know every comissioner does this, but seriously you have nothing else to talk about. How about instead of sitting down and taking it from ESPN, you expand to leverage a larger ACC against ESPN?Expansion opens up the contract. Bet on yourselves and gain value no matter how large you have to make yourself.

A western wing and central wing would solidify the ACC as conference 3 an entity that can ensure a healthy middle class. An organization that can leverage the networks against each other as something they would need to have.

What are we paying Phillips for? Is he contracted to make a certain number of 60s era NCAA speechs per season?

What does he even mean by "it cant be at the expense of what we are already doing" What are we even doing? Signing conference marketing deals for pennies is not going to close the gap. The revenue will need to come from the broadcasters. Make that happen. Phillips has not brought a dime of new media money in during his tenure. The rollout of ACCN was already in process before Phillips came aboard. Again I said what are we doing here? Why are we paying you so much to keep the boat hurtling toward the iceberg?

I think a former CEO at Sears & Roebuck made a similar statement 10 so years ago. Mighta been K-Mart. Just swap "conference" with "company". Phillips can keep collecting his paycheck while yucking it up with his golf buddies.

Corpnocrats learned years ago how to milk a dying entity (corporate or otherwise), so shareholders (or schools) don't walk away the remainder when the entity is gone. Same thing absolutely will happen with the NCAA.

Warren, Bowlsby and Sankey were the only non-neophytes when this began. Phillips and Kliavkoff were granted the largess and boon of an endowed host to suck dry. Phillips began in style by hiring firms to conduct studies (inviting others to feed on the host). It's how buzzards work!

If we had been headed to a P4 those 2 hires would have been made in house and with choices who knew the issues and landscape. It was telling that Kliavkoff was an outsider and Phillips only knew the Big 10 and not from a commissioner's perspective. He was however a solid Manchurian Candidate for dissing the playoff and selling out to the alliance.

(09-01-2022 02:35 PM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  

(09-01-2022 02:17 PM)LeeNobody Wrote:  "We all desire to stay together."

Clemson, FSU, Miami in unison: "No, Jim, we don't"

Bowlsby in the B12 kept saying that over and over for years.

It is a deceptive, defensive statement by a Commissioner. Certainly not the first time a Commissioner messages all members are so deeply bonded. It’s common knowledge all ACC members want much enhanced revenue, and several seek to leave for greener pastures when such becomes available.

(09-01-2022 02:38 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-01-2022 02:25 PM)GarnetAndBlue Wrote:  

(09-01-2022 02:17 PM)LeeNobody Wrote:  

(09-01-2022 11:53 AM)random asian guy Wrote:  https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...atform=amp

“I continue to believe the ACC is strong, and among the very best all-around conferences in the nation," Phillips told ESPN. "I'm confident in our desire of staying together. I know that there's a lot of rumors and speculation. We all understand people want answers and certainty. But we're really aligned right now, and we feel like we got some really good solutions to address some of the revenue gap. But it can't be at the expense of all of these things that we're doing.

What’s the solution?

What a joke? I have not heard more delusional talk in my life!

"We all desire to stay together." Read the room, Jim. Just because people tell you they want to stay together doesnt mean that they arent planning their exit strategy. Do you think UCLA was advertising their desire to leave? What are you doing? Where is the leadership? Where is the plan. Where are the "really good solutions"?

ESPN mentions in the next paragraph, un-even distribution. That sure will keep the conference together. That worked so well for Texas and Oklahoma. I am glad our solution to save the sinking ship is to throw conference members overboard.

I can't even believe he goes on to mention his trips to watch ACC games. I know every comissioner does this, but seriously you have nothing else to talk about. How about instead of sitting down and taking it from ESPN, you expand to leverage a larger ACC against ESPN?Expansion opens up the contract. Bet on yourselves and gain value no matter how large you have to make yourself.

A western wing and central wing would solidify the ACC as conference 3 an entity that can ensure a healthy middle class. An organization that can leverage the networks against each other as something they would need to have.

What are we paying Phillips for? Is he contracted to make a certain number of 60s era NCAA speechs per season?

What does he even mean by "it cant be at the expense of what we are already doing" What are we even doing? Signing conference marketing deals for pennies is not going to close the gap. The revenue will need to come from the broadcasters. Make that happen. Phillips has not brought a dime of new media money in during his tenure. The rollout of ACCN was already in process before Phillips came aboard. Again I said what are we doing here? Why are we paying you so much to keep the boat hurtling toward the iceberg?

I think a former CEO at Sears & Roebuck made a similar statement 10 so years ago. Mighta been K-Mart. Just swap "conference" with "company". Phillips can keep collecting his paycheck while yucking it up with his golf buddies.

Corpnocrats learned years ago how to milk a dying entity (corporate or otherwise), so shareholders (or schools) don't walk away the remainder when the entity is gone. Same thing absolutely will happen with the NCAA.

Warren, Bowlsby and Sankey were the only non-neophytes when this began. Phillips and Kliavkoff were granted the largess and boon of an endowed host to suck dry. Phillips began in style by hiring firms to conduct studies (inviting others to feed on the host). It's how buzzards work!

If we had been headed to a P4 those 2 hires would have been made in house and with choices who knew the issues and landscape. It was telling that Kliavkoff was an outsider and Phillips only knew the Big 10 and not from a commissioner's perspective. He was however a solid Manchurian Candidate for dissing the playoff and selling out to the alliance.

It’s like ol’ Swoff knew what was coming all along.

Right now the PAC is dying. The previous decade the Big East died. Next decade the ACC dies. Why go to a dying conference.

(09-01-2022 02:17 PM)LeeNobody Wrote:  I can't even believe [ACC Commissioner Jim Phillips] goes on to mention his trips to watch ACC games. I know every comissioner does this, but seriously you have nothing else to talk about. How about instead of sitting down and taking it from ESPN, you expand to leverage a larger ACC against ESPN? Expansion opens up the contract. Bet on yourselves and gain value no matter how large you have to make yourself.

A western wing and central wing would solidify the ACC as conference 3 an entity that can ensure a healthy middle class...

I love this post; I'd like to nominate Lee Nobody for ACC Commissioner!

(09-01-2022 11:53 AM)random asian guy Wrote:  https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...atform=amp

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“We all understand people want answers and certainty. But we're really aligned right now, and we feel like we got some really good solutions to address some of the revenue gap. But it can't be at the expense of all of these things that we're doing.

What’s the solution?

Let's first put the bold type in a different spot. Then we'll have a better idea of the problem Jim Phillips is working on.

we feel like we got some really good solutions to address some of the revenue gap.

What actions address some of the gap? Eliminating divisions. Increasing distribution for ACCN. Adding a ninth conference game, and so on.

The gap itself has opened too wide to be closed. In his choice of words Phillips signals that he knows that game is lost.

His priority now is to help ACC schools with Top Two goals meet them with League Three money—for as long as those schools remain in the conference. He realizes perfectly well that if he can't find effective ways to do that, some university presidents will have little choice but to take more drastic action.