(08-18-2022 11:04 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(08-18-2022 02:21 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(08-18-2022 02:16 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(08-18-2022 01:54 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(08-18-2022 06:05 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Covid year. Not relevant to anything else.

If ND joined the ACC in full, it would not get the $80 million or so it will get as an independent from NBC, the ACC partial share and the ACC Network full share.

ND joining the ACC for football would not bump the ESPN and conference payouts to $80 million a year.

Why would ND football lock itself into a GOR for 14 more years AND make less money than this new deal?

That would be a poor business decision.

Terry, I get you don't think/want ND to join the ACC, especially in view of B1G $$$. Agreed, end of story.

However, the fact that ND got its best TV numbers since 2005 while playing a full ACC schedule (i.e. competing for the conference championship) cannot be attributed to "Covid year". Now, did novelty play a factor? I'm sure it did. Does ND historically get better numbers playing ACC teams than most others? Yes, they do.

https://accfootballrx.blogspot.com/2022/...tings.html

Perfect regular season combined with no patsies on the schedule and limited B1G alternatives was like a perfect storm for ND that year. Rather than showing how great ND is in the ACC, I think that it shows how great ND can be from a ratings perspective when they're really good on the field.

ND went 9-0 in the ACC regular season that year. There were patsies on the schedule. (without naming names)

Other than Clemson, the ACC schedule was underwhelming and that experience further solidified football independence among ND fans. They didn't like it.

ND was grateful for the opportunity but disliked playing 9 teams from the same conference.

So why would Notre Dame want to join the B1G??? You make my point for me, TerryD.

And.....ND isn't joining the Big Ten either.

(08-18-2022 11:34 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(08-18-2022 11:04 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(08-18-2022 02:21 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(08-18-2022 02:16 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(08-18-2022 01:54 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Terry, I get you don't think/want ND to join the ACC, especially in view of B1G $$$. Agreed, end of story.

However, the fact that ND got its best TV numbers since 2005 while playing a full ACC schedule (i.e. competing for the conference championship) cannot be attributed to "Covid year". Now, did novelty play a factor? I'm sure it did. Does ND historically get better numbers playing ACC teams than most others? Yes, they do.

https://accfootballrx.blogspot.com/2022/...tings.html

Perfect regular season combined with no patsies on the schedule and limited B1G alternatives was like a perfect storm for ND that year. Rather than showing how great ND is in the ACC, I think that it shows how great ND can be from a ratings perspective when they're really good on the field.

ND went 9-0 in the ACC regular season that year. There were patsies on the schedule. (without naming names)

Other than Clemson, the ACC schedule was underwhelming and that experience further solidified football independence among ND fans. They didn't like it.

ND was grateful for the opportunity but disliked playing 9 teams from the same conference.

So why would Notre Dame want to join the B1G??? You make my point for me, TerryD.

And.....ND isn't joining the Big Ten either.

For once, we finally agree. 'Bout time.

(08-18-2022 10:33 PM)BigOwensboroCard Wrote:  I just don’t see NBC dumping that amount of money on top of what they just did with the BigTen deal. I understand you are combining what the Irish get from the ACC as well, but with all the cord cutting and cable not even being what it use to be I find it hard for NBC unless they put ALL their games on Peacock where subscribers would have to pay for the premium to watch. If this is the case then maybe, but I’m having hard time seeing it.

Also if the Irish joined the ACC I’m sure the negotiations in doing so would be an agreement with the conference and ESPN dropping the GORs to a more reasonable timeframe than 14yrs.

At $60 million, the ND package is a steal. It gets you 5 marquee games versus P5 opponents or Navy, plus two games against g5 level opponents. NBC is paying $25 million PER GAME for its share of the B1G package. $60 million equates to about $8.5 million per game or, if you ignore the G5 opponents lesser games, $12.5 million per game for games versus G5 opponents and Navy, with two free games against g5 opponents. I continue to believe the ND package would be more fairly valued at $75-90 million given

There are plenty of bad Big Ten teams also.


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(08-19-2022 07:14 AM)orangefan Wrote:  

(08-18-2022 10:33 PM)BigOwensboroCard Wrote:  I just don’t see NBC dumping that amount of money on top of what they just did with the BigTen deal. I understand you are combining what the Irish get from the ACC as well, but with all the cord cutting and cable not even being what it use to be I find it hard for NBC unless they put ALL their games on Peacock where subscribers would have to pay for the premium to watch. If this is the case then maybe, but I’m having hard time seeing it.

Also if the Irish joined the ACC I’m sure the negotiations in doing so would be an agreement with the conference and ESPN dropping the GORs to a more reasonable timeframe than 14yrs.

At $60 million, the ND package is a steal. It gets you 5 marquee games versus P5 opponents or Navy, plus two games against g5 level opponents. NBC is paying $25 million PER GAME for its share of the B1G package. $60 million equates to about $8.5 million per game or, if you ignore the G5 opponents lesser games, $12.5 million per game for games versus G5 opponents and Navy, with two free games against g5 opponents. I continue to believe the ND package would be more fairly valued at $75-90 million given

In the great bragging rights casino of predictions, I have a dollar on a secret clause in the Notre Dame NBC agreement that says no more G5 games except for academies.

(Of course NBC might just dump those games on peacock like they did the Toledo game a year or two ago. But I think they'd rather have a Notre Dame Big Ten or Notre Dame SEC game in that spot instead. Even with two games a week on ABC, with 16 teams if you're Ole Miss or South Carolina etc OTA spots are still hard to come by. Sign a home and home with Notre Dame, and you're definitely on NBC once. (Or a Shamrock Series one off, or whatever)

$0 reason for ND to give up its freedom.