Thought I'd include the incoming members to the B12...

9. Oklahoma
10. Baylor
11. Oklahoma St
18. Texas
22. Cincinnati
25. Houston
29. BYU
32. UCF
45. Kansas St
46. Iowa St

(08-08-2022 03:39 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Thought I'd include the incoming members to the B12...

9. Oklahoma
10. Baylor
11. Oklahoma St
18. Texas
22. Cincinnati
25. Houston
29. BYU
32. UCF
45. Kansas St
46. Iowa St

I'm surprised Oklahoma is that high. They're relying a ton on transfer talent and are led by a first-time head coach. I think both will ultimately lead to growing pains that make a top-10 finish unlikely.

(08-08-2022 05:52 PM)bear2be2 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 03:39 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Thought I'd include the incoming members to the B12...

9. Oklahoma
10. Baylor
11. Oklahoma St
18. Texas
22. Cincinnati
25. Houston
29. BYU
32. UCF
45. Kansas St
46. Iowa St

I'm surprised Oklahoma is that high. They're relying a ton on transfer talent and are led by a first-time head coach. I think both will ultimately lead to growing pains that make a top-10 finish unlikely.

Yeah, the Gooners get the benefit of the voters doubt like several [many] of the other P5 programs. Good for Baylor and Oklahoma St. I'll say this, Cincinnati will finish higher than #22 at season's end.

(08-08-2022 08:23 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 05:52 PM)bear2be2 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 03:39 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Thought I'd include the incoming members to the B12...

9. Oklahoma
10. Baylor
11. Oklahoma St
18. Texas
22. Cincinnati
25. Houston
29. BYU
32. UCF
45. Kansas St
46. Iowa St

I'm surprised Oklahoma is that high. They're relying a ton on transfer talent and are led by a first-time head coach. I think both will ultimately lead to growing pains that make a top-10 finish unlikely.

Yeah, the Gooners get the benefit of the voters doubt like several [many] of the other P5 programs. Good for Baylor and Oklahoma St. I'll say this, Cincinnati will finish higher than #22 at season's end.

Football season can't come soon enough, let's go!

(08-08-2022 08:23 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 05:52 PM)bear2be2 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 03:39 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Thought I'd include the incoming members to the B12...

9. Oklahoma
10. Baylor
11. Oklahoma St
18. Texas
22. Cincinnati
25. Houston
29. BYU
32. UCF
45. Kansas St
46. Iowa St

I'm surprised Oklahoma is that high. They're relying a ton on transfer talent and are led by a first-time head coach. I think both will ultimately lead to growing pains that make a top-10 finish unlikely.

Yeah, the Gooners get the benefit of the voters doubt like several [many] of the other P5 programs. Good for Baylor and Oklahoma St. I'll say this, Cincinnati will finish higher than #22 at season's end.

And no mention of Texas perhaps being a bit high? Yes, OU has an unproven coach, but they've gone 86-19 since the inception of the current CFP while Texas has gone 53-46 in the same span. And it's not as though Sarkisian has been a world-beater. His head-coaching record so far with Washington, USC, and now Texas is also a very modest 51-42. Texas already regressed in his first season there to 5-7 from 7-3 the year prior.

He was born in California, played at BYU, had never even coached in the state of Texas before, and is now suddenly expected to turn UT's fortunes around? Yes, they've recruited well, but when do the Longhorns not recruit well?

(08-13-2022 09:35 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  And no mention of Texas perhaps being a bit high? Yes, OU has an unproven coach, but they've gone 86-19 since the inception of the current CFP while Texas has gone 53-46 in the same span. And it's not as though Sarkisian has been a world-beater. His head-coaching record so far with Washington, USC, and now Texas is also a very modest 51-42. Texas already regressed in his first season there to 5-7 from 7-3 the year prior.

He was born in California, played at BYU, had never even coached in the state of Texas before, and is now suddenly expected to turn UT's fortunes around? Yes, they've recruited well, but when do the Longhorns not recruit well?

Good points. Sark doesn't move the needle for me either and I will be surprised if he lasts more than several seasons at Texas. I guess my point is Texas ranked at #18 doesn't seem as much a stretch as Oklahoma at #9 with all the changes in that program. Again, I'm happy for Baylor and Oklahoma State who can really make some noise again this year.

(08-13-2022 09:35 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 08:23 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 05:52 PM)bear2be2 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 03:39 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Thought I'd include the incoming members to the B12...

9. Oklahoma
10. Baylor
11. Oklahoma St
18. Texas
22. Cincinnati
25. Houston
29. BYU
32. UCF
45. Kansas St
46. Iowa St

I'm surprised Oklahoma is that high. They're relying a ton on transfer talent and are led by a first-time head coach. I think both will ultimately lead to growing pains that make a top-10 finish unlikely.

Yeah, the Gooners get the benefit of the voters doubt like several [many] of the other P5 programs. Good for Baylor and Oklahoma St. I'll say this, Cincinnati will finish higher than #22 at season's end.

And no mention of Texas perhaps being a bit high? Yes, OU has an unproven coach, but they've gone 86-19 since the inception of the current CFP while Texas has gone 53-46 in the same span. And it's not as though Sarkisian has been a world-beater. His head-coaching record so far with Washington, USC, and now Texas is also a very modest 51-42. Texas already regressed in his first season there to 5-7 from 7-3 the year prior.

He was born in California, played at BYU, had never even coached in the state of Texas before, and is now suddenly expected to turn UT's fortunes around? Yes, they've recruited well, but when do the Longhorns not recruit well?

Same story every year. TX starts out high in the polls, but eventually comes back to reality.

Rather than create a separate thread I'll incorporate the AP Poll herein:

1) Alabama (54)
2) Ohio State (6)
3) Georgia (3)
4) Clemson
5) Notre Dame
6) Texas A&M
7) Utah
8) Michigan
9) Oklahoma
10) Baylor
11) Oregon
12) Oklahoma State
13) North Carolina St
14) USC
15) Michigan State
16) Miami (FL)
17) Pitt
18) Wisconsin
19) Arkansas
20) Kentucky
21) Ole Miss
22) Wake Forest
23) Cincinnati
24) Houston
25) BYU

Others receiving votes: Tennessee, Texas, Iowa, Penn State, LSU, Fresno State, Minnesota, UCF, Purdue, Mississippi State, Auburn, Kansas State, Florida, North Carolina, Boise State, Air Force, Appalachian State, UCLA, San Diego State, South Carolina, Utah State, Nebraska

Texas getting less love in this poll.

(08-08-2022 08:23 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 05:52 PM)bear2be2 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 03:39 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Thought I'd include the incoming members to the B12...

9. Oklahoma
10. Baylor
11. Oklahoma St
18. Texas
22. Cincinnati
25. Houston
29. BYU
32. UCF
45. Kansas St
46. Iowa St

I'm surprised Oklahoma is that high. They're relying a ton on transfer talent and are led by a first-time head coach. I think both will ultimately lead to growing pains that make a top-10 finish unlikely.

Yeah, the Gooners get the benefit of the voters doubt like several [many] of the other P5 programs. Good for Baylor and Oklahoma St. I'll say this, Cincinnati will finish higher than #22 at season's end.

I think UC is destined for 15-25 this year, unless they're undefeated again. Much like what happened in 2019.

(08-15-2022 11:36 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Rather than create a separate thread I'll incorporate the AP Poll herein:

1) Alabama (54)
2) Ohio State (6)
3) Georgia (3)
4) Clemson
5) Notre Dame
6) Texas A&M
7) Utah
8) Michigan
9) Oklahoma
10) Baylor
11) Oregon
12) Oklahoma State
13) North Carolina
14) USC
15) Michigan State
16) Miami (FL)
17) Pitt
18) Wisconsin
19) Arkansas
20) Kentucky
21) Ole Miss
22) Wake Forest
23) Cincinnati
24) Houston
25) BYU

Others receiving votes: Tennessee, Texas, Iowa, Penn State, LSU, Fresno State, Minnesota, UCF, Purdue, Mississippi State, Auburn, Kansas State, Florida, North Carolina State, Boise State, Air Force, Appalachian State, UCLA, San Diego State, South Carolina, Utah State, Nebraska

Texas getting less love in this poll.

Not to be "that guy" (although I know I totally am right now) but I think you need to swap NC State and North Carolina in the rankings and others receiving votes. NC State is actually ranked 13 in the preseason poll.

(08-16-2022 05:48 AM)HornFrogFan Wrote:  Not to be "that guy" (although I know I totally am right now) but I think you need to swap NC State and North Carolina in the rankings and others receiving votes. NC State is actually ranked 13 in the preseason poll.

Thanks. Fixed the OP. I cut and pasted the poll from someone else's thread over at the Conference Realignment Board. Serves me right to trust someone else's work LOL.