Earlier today SMU's second NIL collective, The Boulevard Collective, was announced. It will contribute $3.5MM annually to SMU football and basketball, which amounts to $36,000 for each and every player:

https://www.on3.com/nil/news/smu-mustang...-kleinert/

SMU's first collective, PonySportsDTX, has already distributed over $1MM in NIL deals and was recently named the 18th most ambitious collective by On3:

https://www.on3.com/nil/news/on3s-top-20...llectives/

Good job comrades.

I'm curious which school with these blanket "pay every one on certain teams" NIL deals will get taken to court first. Pretty easy to argue it's pay for play and therefore violates Title IX.

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That’s impressive!

(08-08-2022 02:58 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  I'm curious which school with these blanket "pay every one on certain teams" NIL deals will get taken to court first. Pretty easy to argue it's pay for play and therefore violates Title IX.

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From The Athletic article on the same subject:

"Collectives, which are not directly associated with schools, pay athletes for work, as is required by NIL rules and laws. The Texas Tech players will receive the money in exchange for community service, for example. At Saturday’s Boulevard Collective event, SMU athletes assembled more than 400 backpacks with school supplies for Dallas schools. Pony Sports DTX also partners athletes with NIL deals and provides its own inside information."

https://theathletic.com/3487824/2022/08/...5-million/

Memphis' 901Fund does the same thing. Pays players for personal appearances at local charity events.

Where you could make an argument might be if they ever make a rule as to what is "fair market compensation" for work in kind, but we're nowhere near that being standard yet.

The lead sentence in that same article is pretty funny:

"SMU is once again a leader in paying its players — legally this time."

Wonder which philosophy leads to more wins.
#1 Paying Top Athletes the Top Dollar, knowing there wont be enough for everyone
#2 Setting a Floor Price for everyone on the team, then attempting to go up for Top Athletes with whatever you have leftover

Personally, I think paying top dollar for the top athletes and assuming others will follow is the best approach. However as a G5, going to a bidding war against Texas or TAMU might not be a winning strategy.

clt says this is going to be chaos!!

just wait until college "student athletes" are making more than pros.......ha! already happening.

(08-08-2022 03:38 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Wonder which philosophy leads to more wins.
#1 Paying Top Athletes the Top Dollar, knowing there wont be enough for everyone
#2 Setting a Floor Price for everyone on the team, then attempting to go up for Top Athletes with whatever you have leftover

Personally, I think paying top dollar for the top athletes and assuming others will follow is the best approach. However as a G5, going to a bidding war against Texas or TAMU might not be a winning strategy.

Twitter has answered my question: It's both.

You need 2 Collectives, 1st Collective whose mission is top dollar for top athletes and a 2nd Collective whose mission is setting a baseline payout for every player on the team.

(08-08-2022 03:19 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 02:58 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  I'm curious which school with these blanket "pay every one on certain teams" NIL deals will get taken to court first. Pretty easy to argue it's pay for play and therefore violates Title IX.

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From The Athletic article on the same subject:

"Collectives, which are not directly associated with schools, pay athletes for work, as is required by NIL rules and laws. The Texas Tech players will receive the money in exchange for community service, for example. At Saturday’s Boulevard Collective event, SMU athletes assembled more than 400 backpacks with school supplies for Dallas schools. Pony Sports DTX also partners athletes with NIL deals and provides its own inside information."

https://theathletic.com/3487824/2022/08/...5-million/

Memphis' 901Fund does the same thing. Pays players for personal appearances at local charity events.

Where you could make an argument might be if they ever make a rule as to what is "fair market compensation" for work in kind, but we're nowhere near that being standard yet.

There is just a massive gray area that we won't know the boundaries until it's tried in court.... Which it will be tried at some point. I think these gender specific blanket payments that will do it. Now who is the defendant in that case is a very good question.

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(08-08-2022 03:20 PM)TripleA Wrote:  The lead sentence in that same article is pretty funny:

"SMU is once again a leader in paying its players — legally this time."

Lol yes. Just need some Trans Ams now and Pony is back full throttle.

(08-08-2022 06:51 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 03:20 PM)TripleA Wrote:  The lead sentence in that same article is pretty funny:

"SMU is once again a leader in paying its players — legally this time."

Lol yes. Just need some Trans Ams now and Pony is back full throttle.

https://twitter.com/SMUFB/status/1516425...t-response

(08-08-2022 08:06 PM)MainePony Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 06:51 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 03:20 PM)TripleA Wrote:  The lead sentence in that same article is pretty funny:

"SMU is once again a leader in paying its players — legally this time."

Lol yes. Just need some Trans Ams now and Pony is back full throttle.

That’s awesome! Pony is back!

(08-08-2022 03:20 PM)TripleA Wrote:  The lead sentence in that same article is pretty funny:

"SMU is once again a leader in paying its players — legally this time."

We were simply FORTY F@@king years ahead of the curve.

The Big12 may regret their decision, SMU has proven they can be successful in this environment.

(08-08-2022 09:32 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  The Big12 may regret their decision, SMU has proven they can be successful in this environment.

Better for us. Tech and Baylor fans suck.

(08-08-2022 02:58 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  I'm curious which school with these blanket "pay every one on certain teams" NIL deals will get taken to court first. Pretty easy to argue it's pay for play and therefore violates Title IX.

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Just be glad you don't have to pay for play for football too. At the end of the day we're all going to rot from the inside out.

Pretty soon they'll be nobody left in the stands except guys who run hedge funds.

(08-08-2022 03:38 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Wonder which philosophy leads to more wins.
#1 Paying Top Athletes the Top Dollar, knowing there wont be enough for everyone
#2 Setting a Floor Price for everyone on the team, then attempting to go up for Top Athletes with whatever you have leftover

Personally, I think paying top dollar for the top athletes and assuming others will follow is the best approach. However as a G5, going to a bidding war against Texas or TAMU might not be a winning strategy.

SMU alums have deeper pockets than Texas and A&M alumns

(08-08-2022 11:42 PM)Bobcats2011 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 03:38 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Wonder which philosophy leads to more wins.
#1 Paying Top Athletes the Top Dollar, knowing there wont be enough for everyone
#2 Setting a Floor Price for everyone on the team, then attempting to go up for Top Athletes with whatever you have leftover

Personally, I think paying top dollar for the top athletes and assuming others will follow is the best approach. However as a G5, going to a bidding war against Texas or TAMU might not be a winning strategy.

SMU alums have deeper pockets than Texas and A&M alumns

“If Saban is tossing his cookies at the thought of the damage boosters at Texas A&M and Texas have done, wait until those boosters' bosses who support SMU start throwing money around." ... SMU is the only university with 2 NFL owners as alumni, and has the most billionaires per capita in its alumnae of any US university, including 5 billionaires under 40 (if you include MBA and law alumni). We can play NIL-ball with anybody.”

(08-08-2022 09:32 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  The Big12 may regret their decision, SMU has proven they can be successful in this environment.

What exactly have they proven? That they're good at throwing away money? For all the noise they've made recently what have they actually accomplished?