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Future of ND’s season ending games in CA
ND typically ends their season with a road game in CA: USC in even years and Stanford in odd years.

I’ve noticed that the existing series only go through 2024 (Stanford) and 2026 (USC).

With USC moving to the Big 10 in 2024, I have doubts that this tradition can continue.

I don’t know that USC is going to want to play 9 Big 10 games and then ND. I also highly doubt that if they do, that the Big 10 will force another member to play OOC or sit idle to accommodate the Irish. The Big 10 is going to want that game played in September or mid-October at the very latest.

Stanford is probably anxious to re-up with ND, that is if ND still wants to play them. It probably also makes more sense to the PAC 10 if Stanford plays Cal on rivalry week.

IMHO, ND should be ending their season against an ACC school.

If ND wants a continued West Coast presence maybe they should consider playing Shamrock series games in places like LA, LV, and Seattle against whoever is hot in the PAC 10, rather than a fixed opponent.
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If the Big 10 agreed to give USC a full share with no buy in - as rumored - then surely they agreed to let USC-ND rivalry continue on the current terms. Why would the Big 10 care?
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The ND-USC game goes away unless Notre Dame joins the B1G
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The only issue with USC playing ND on the last game of every other season is that 1 other Big Ten would have to sit out the last game or play somebody ooc too. Which is probably not that big of deal.

UCLA could get the last week off, or maybe play Cal or Stanford ooc that week.
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It's a tough spot for everyone. USCs schedule is brutal. You can give them the NWUs. The only other cupcakes are Maryland/Rutgers, which can't be fixed. That second and perhaps third team is probably going to be MSU/UM/OSU/Wisc/Iowa.

Maybe you can work out some Bermuda Triangle and rotate UCLA OOC with Cal/Stanford mentioned before, but then the PAC has an extra team that's sitting out. Is BYU Utah pushed to rivalry weekend every year? That's the only solution for UCLA.
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(08-04-2022 06:12 PM)Section 200 Wrote:  If the Big 10 agreed to give USC a full share with no buy in - as rumored - then surely they agreed to let USC-ND rivalry continue on the current terms. Why would the Big 10 care?

Simple mathematics—if you have an even number of teams and one wants to play OOC on rivalry week then you have to find an OOC opponent for someone else. In an age where 9 of the 10 conferences have an even number of teams someone is going to get left without an opponent. (We’re on track to have an odd number of FBS teams overall as well)
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(08-04-2022 06:55 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(08-04-2022 06:12 PM)Section 200 Wrote:  If the Big 10 agreed to give USC a full share with no buy in - as rumored - then surely they agreed to let USC-ND rivalry continue on the current terms. Why would the Big 10 care?

Simple mathematics—if you have an even number of teams and one wants to play OOC on rivalry week then you have to find an OOC opponent for someone else. In an age where 9 of the 10 conferences have an even number of teams someone is going to get left without an opponent. (We’re on track to have an odd number of FBS teams overall as well)

UMass will happily act as a body bag game for whichever B1G team is the odd man out here.
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(08-04-2022 06:57 PM)e-parade Wrote:  
(08-04-2022 06:55 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(08-04-2022 06:12 PM)Section 200 Wrote:  If the Big 10 agreed to give USC a full share with no buy in - as rumored - then surely they agreed to let USC-ND rivalry continue on the current terms. Why would the Big 10 care?

Simple mathematics—if you have an even number of teams and one wants to play OOC on rivalry week then you have to find an OOC opponent for someone else. In an age where 9 of the 10 conferences have an even number of teams someone is going to get left without an opponent. (We’re on track to have an odd number of FBS teams overall as well)

UMass Cal will happily act as a body bag game for whichever B1G team is the odd man out here.

Fixed it for ya
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(08-04-2022 06:41 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  It's a tough spot for everyone. USCs schedule is brutal. You can give them the NWUs. The only other cupcakes are Maryland/Rutgers, which can't be fixed. That second and perhaps third team is probably going to be MSU/UM/OSU/Wisc/Iowa.

Maybe you can work out some Bermuda Triangle and rotate UCLA OOC with Cal/Stanford mentioned before, but then the PAC has an extra team that's sitting out. Is BYU Utah pushed to rivalry weekend every year? That's the only solution for UCLA.

That's the less powerful conference's problem. It all rolls downhill. The PAC will have to figure it out if they want the UCLA-Cal series to continue
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ND-USC is more valuable to USC than to ND. ND will be sad if it ends, but will quickly find a quality replacement. It will reduce USC's prestige to end the game. ND walked away from Purdue, Michigan State & Michigan with no ill effects.
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This should be obvious: USC-ND isn’t going anywhere regardless of whether ND joins the Big Ten or not.

The Big Ten’s TV partners absolutely, positively, 1000% badly want that game every other year to plug into the prime time slot on Thanksgiving weekend (after Michigan-Ohio State).

If USC decides on their own that they think the schedule is too tough, then that’s one thing. However, ND is as much as USC’s rival as UCLA, so I don’t believe that’s how they’re thinking at all. At the same time, the Big Ten absolutely wants that game to continue. They’re getting $1 billion-plus per year from its media partners to be completely flexible for Big Ten teams playing ND as much and as often as they want to.
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(08-04-2022 06:12 PM)Section 200 Wrote:  If the Big 10 agreed to give USC a full share with no buy in - as rumored - then surely they agreed to let USC-ND rivalry continue on the current terms. Why would the Big 10 care?

Thats what Im thinking. I see no reason why that wouldnt continue to be a game that might draw a bunch of viewers.
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(08-04-2022 07:12 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  This should be obvious: USC-ND isn’t going anywhere regardless of whether ND joins the Big Ten or not.

The Big Ten’s TV partners absolutely, positively, 1000% badly want that game every other year to plug into the prime time slot on Thanksgiving weekend (after Michigan-Ohio State).

If USC decides on their own that they think the schedule is too tough, then that’s one thing. However, ND is as much as USC’s rival as UCLA, so I don’t believe that’s how they’re thinking at all. At the same time, the Big Ten absolutely wants that game to continue. They’re getting $1 billion-plus per year from its media partners to be completely flexible for Big Ten teams playing ND as much and as often as they want to.

USC-UCLA is just as viable in that time slot and it doesn’t require another Big 10 school to find an OOC game. If the rivalry continues, I doubt we see it in week 13 beyond 2026.

Unless Maryland or Rutgers is dying to play Army, UConn, or UMass that weekend I don’t see the Irish getting special treatment—they aren’t even a conference member for goodness sakes.
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(08-04-2022 07:21 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(08-04-2022 07:12 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  This should be obvious: USC-ND isn’t going anywhere regardless of whether ND joins the Big Ten or not.

The Big Ten’s TV partners absolutely, positively, 1000% badly want that game every other year to plug into the prime time slot on Thanksgiving weekend (after Michigan-Ohio State).

If USC decides on their own that they think the schedule is too tough, then that’s one thing. However, ND is as much as USC’s rival as UCLA, so I don’t believe that’s how they’re thinking at all. At the same time, the Big Ten absolutely wants that game to continue. They’re getting $1 billion-plus per year from its media partners to be completely flexible for Big Ten teams playing ND as much and as often as they want to.

USC-UCLA is just as viable in that time slot and it doesn’t require another Big 10 school to find an OOC game. If the rivalry continues, I doubt we see it in week 13 beyond 2026.

Unless Maryland or Rutgers is dying to play Army, UConn, or UMass that weekend I don’t see the Irish getting special treatment—they aren’t even a conference member for goodness sakes.

Do you think USC wants to ditch ND? USC-UCLA has very little value during rivalry week unless both teams are highly rated. UCLA playing Cal is the obvious fix. Big 10 had 11 schools for many years - this isn't that hard!
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I don't think there is a chance USC/Notre Dame ends. I think it is highly likely to be moved up at least a week though. I just don't think it is likely anyone else will agree to sitting off the last weekend and doubt they force them too.

If the current contract goes through 2026, they will probably honor that though with UCLA sitting out in 2024 and 2026 if nothing else can be arranged.
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The game will continue.
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(08-04-2022 06:00 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  ND typically ends their season with a road game in CA: USC in even years and Stanford in odd years.

I’ve noticed that the existing series only go through 2024 (Stanford) and 2026 (USC).

With USC moving to the Big 10 in 2024, I have doubts that this tradition can continue.

I don’t know that USC is going to want to play 9 Big 10 games and then ND. I also highly doubt that if they do, that the Big 10 will force another member to play OOC or sit idle to accommodate the Irish. The Big 10 is going to want that game played in September or mid-October at the very latest.

Stanford is probably anxious to re-up with ND, that is if ND still wants to play them. It probably also makes more sense to the PAC 10 if Stanford plays Cal on rivalry week.

IMHO, ND should be ending their season against an ACC school.

If ND wants a continued West Coast presence maybe they should consider playing Shamrock series games in places like LA, LV, and Seattle against whoever is hot in the PAC 10, rather than a fixed opponent.

If ND needs to replace USC for rivalry week, the ACC should offer Miami. Yes, I know that means Miami plays ND every year, but what a game it would be...
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(08-04-2022 06:15 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  The ND-USC game goes away unless Notre Dame joins the B1G

I’m pretty sure the Big Ten doesn’t control USC’s OOC schedule.
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(08-04-2022 09:08 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(08-04-2022 06:00 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  ND typically ends their season with a road game in CA: USC in even years and Stanford in odd years.

I’ve noticed that the existing series only go through 2024 (Stanford) and 2026 (USC).

With USC moving to the Big 10 in 2024, I have doubts that this tradition can continue.

I don’t know that USC is going to want to play 9 Big 10 games and then ND. I also highly doubt that if they do, that the Big 10 will force another member to play OOC or sit idle to accommodate the Irish. The Big 10 is going to want that game played in September or mid-October at the very latest.

Stanford is probably anxious to re-up with ND, that is if ND still wants to play them. It probably also makes more sense to the PAC 10 if Stanford plays Cal on rivalry week.

IMHO, ND should be ending their season against an ACC school.

If ND wants a continued West Coast presence maybe they should consider playing Shamrock series games in places like LA, LV, and Seattle against whoever is hot in the PAC 10, rather than a fixed opponent.

If ND needs to replace USC for rivalry week, the ACC should offer Miami. Yes, I know that means Miami plays ND every year, but what a game it would be...

That was their other season ending game before the brawl killed it and it was replaced with Stanford.
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(08-04-2022 07:21 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(08-04-2022 07:12 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  This should be obvious: USC-ND isn’t going anywhere regardless of whether ND joins the Big Ten or not.

The Big Ten’s TV partners absolutely, positively, 1000% badly want that game every other year to plug into the prime time slot on Thanksgiving weekend (after Michigan-Ohio State).

If USC decides on their own that they think the schedule is too tough, then that’s one thing. However, ND is as much as USC’s rival as UCLA, so I don’t believe that’s how they’re thinking at all. At the same time, the Big Ten absolutely wants that game to continue. They’re getting $1 billion-plus per year from its media partners to be completely flexible for Big Ten teams playing ND as much and as often as they want to.

USC-UCLA is just as viable in that time slot and it doesn’t require another Big 10 school to find an OOC game. If the rivalry continues, I doubt we see it in week 13 beyond 2026.

Unless Maryland or Rutgers is dying to play Army, UConn, or UMass that weekend I don’t see the Irish getting special treatment—they aren’t even a conference member for goodness sakes.

Yeah, nationally people definitely prefer USC-UCLA to USC-Notre Dame. C’mon man. Do you follow college football?
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