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(08-03-2022 03:35 PM)YNot Wrote:  
(08-03-2022 02:51 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  It's a real shame that Washington State is ranked where they are. They have had a couple of good quarterbacks over the years: Drew Bledsoe and Ryan Leaf, to name a few. I get the fact that they are located in a remote area of the state of Washington; but that should help them and not hurt them, IMO. Fewer distractions, and more of a captive audience. I just look at Washington State and see unfulfilled potential, like the marketing group for WSU made a series of really bad blunders. To me, I feel like that Washington State should have at least a 40,000 seat stadium, and the fans to fill it too.

Wazzu would need literally 40-50% of the population within a one-hour drive of campus to attend their games to fill a 40K-seat stadium. Seriously, like fewer than 100K people in that radius. It's really sparsely populated.

Yeah, it's within a couple hours' drive from Spokane and Tri-Cities, but those aren't really major areas. Very different from being situated in a 'small' 100K town within a couple hours' drive of a LARGE metro area.

No Wazzu fans make the trip from Seattle/Olympia?? I know it's a long drive, but don't some make it out there for a few games???
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(08-06-2022 01:02 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(08-03-2022 03:34 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  
(08-03-2022 02:49 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  North Carolina at No. 14 is a pleasant surprise.
Vanderbilt at No. 61 of 66 ... ouch.

BC, Pitt and Syracuse continue to diminish.

These programs were better off in the Big East, IMO. That was their natural domain.

We'd have to define better off. You could say the same for some programs in the P2- being in a weaker conference but more success?

They were better off in a different era- an era that made it possible to have many small conferences.

Imo, the best case for the Pitt or Cuse types is actually conferences now getting bigger to 20-24 schools super conferences. Aka, leagues.

Large super conferences broken into pods or divisions are basically just leagues of small conferences with bundled rights and elaborate scheduling agreements. But I am a consolidation maximalist

For example, having Pitt, Cuse, and BC joined in a Big East division of Big 12 or ACC by Louisville, Cincy, WVU, VT, and imo Memphis. Likely is appropriate to their "value" while allowing for success driven growth that programs need to change their value. (yes, VT would object, and maybe be in P2)

A PAC6 in the BIG of USC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal, Oregon, and UW the best way to "preserve" CFB on the west coast. 5 games against divisional traditional rivals, 5 against the Rust Belt BIG. (with maybe games from the BIG 10 side of agreement with ND).

An "ACC" division in the SEC of FSU, Miami, UNC, UVa, Clemson, and Duke (or NCSt). 5 games against traditional peers (is 30 and 20 years traditional?), 5 against rest of SEC (with maybe games from the SEC side of agreement with ND). Not too dissimilar to an SEC East of UF, UGa, Tenn, SCarolina, Kentucky, Vandy.

Big 12 division in SEC of OU, UT, A&M, Missouri, Ark, KU. With the SEC shield, even 2nd place in these divisions are in the running for a 12 or 16 team playoff that has at-large berths.


The postseason structure will dictate the division setup imo,
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