RE: MEMPHIS--when the dust settles-where is MEMPHIS
(02-16-2023 02:28 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:
(02-16-2023 11:35 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:
(02-15-2023 01:11 PM)Rube Dali Wrote: Where it's always been, on the east bank of the Mississippi River.
In all seriousness, the G2 in the Sun Belt.
/not s
Sun Belt----I hope not
I imagine Memphis would choose football independence and try to get into the Big East before the Sun Belt. However, I anticipate Memphis will be in the XII or ACC when all is said and done.
Memphis would never seek membership in the Sun Belt — and that is nothing against what is a fine all-round league. Memphis simply would not fit in such a league (in terms of the UofM's culture, league affiliation history, men's hoops, etc.). In fact, I doubt the Belt would even be interested.
The "wildcard" option for Memphis would be to (ala UConn) go indy in football and try (perhaps with Temple in this crazy hypothetical) land membership in the Atlantic Ten.
RE: MEMPHIS--when the dust settles-where is MEMPHIS
(02-16-2023 02:28 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:
(02-16-2023 11:35 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:
(02-15-2023 01:11 PM)Rube Dali Wrote: Where it's always been, on the east bank of the Mississippi River.
In all seriousness, the G2 in the Sun Belt.
/not s
Sun Belt----I hope not
I imagine Memphis would choose football independence and try to get into the Big East before the Sun Belt. However, I anticipate Memphis will be in the XII or ACC when all is said and done.
RE: MEMPHIS--when the dust settles-where is MEMPHIS
(02-17-2023 10:13 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:
(02-16-2023 02:28 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:
(02-16-2023 11:35 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:
(02-15-2023 01:11 PM)Rube Dali Wrote: Where it's always been, on the east bank of the Mississippi River.
In all seriousness, the G2 in the Sun Belt.
/not s
Sun Belt----I hope not
I imagine Memphis would choose football independence and try to get into the Big East before the Sun Belt. However, I anticipate Memphis will be in the XII or ACC when all is said and done.
Fingers crossed
I'm sure Bill Dazzle has his fingers crossed as well as do I. Don't want to see Oregon or Oregon State get left out either, but honestly, could care a less about GT.
RE: MEMPHIS--when the dust settles-where is MEMPHIS
(02-16-2023 03:58 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:
(02-16-2023 02:28 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:
(02-16-2023 11:35 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:
(02-15-2023 01:11 PM)Rube Dali Wrote: Where it's always been, on the east bank of the Mississippi River.
In all seriousness, the G2 in the Sun Belt.
/not s
Sun Belt----I hope not
I imagine Memphis would choose football independence and try to get into the Big East before the Sun Belt. However, I anticipate Memphis will be in the XII or ACC when all is said and done.
Memphis would never seek membership in the Sun Belt — and that is nothing against what is a fine all-round league. Memphis simply would not fit in such a league (in terms of the UofM's culture, league affiliation history, men's hoops, etc.). In fact, I doubt the Belt would even be interested.
The "wildcard" option for Memphis would be to (ala UConn) go indy in football and try (perhaps with Temple in this crazy hypothetical) land membership in the Atlantic Ten.
RE: MEMPHIS--when the dust settles-where is MEMPHIS
(02-17-2023 11:16 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:
(02-17-2023 10:13 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:
(02-16-2023 02:28 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:
(02-16-2023 11:35 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:
(02-15-2023 01:11 PM)Rube Dali Wrote: Where it's always been, on the east bank of the Mississippi River.
In all seriousness, the G2 in the Sun Belt.
/not s
Sun Belt----I hope not
I imagine Memphis would choose football independence and try to get into the Big East before the Sun Belt. However, I anticipate Memphis will be in the XII or ACC when all is said and done.
Fingers crossed
I'm sure Bill Dazzle has his fingers crossed as well as do I. Don't want to see Oregon or Oregon State get left out either, but honestly, could care a less about GT.
RE: MEMPHIS--when the dust settles-where is MEMPHIS
(02-17-2023 11:18 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:
(02-16-2023 03:58 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:
(02-16-2023 02:28 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:
(02-16-2023 11:35 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:
(02-15-2023 01:11 PM)Rube Dali Wrote: Where it's always been, on the east bank of the Mississippi River.
In all seriousness, the G2 in the Sun Belt.
/not s
Sun Belt----I hope not
I imagine Memphis would choose football independence and try to get into the Big East before the Sun Belt. However, I anticipate Memphis will be in the XII or ACC when all is said and done.
Memphis would never seek membership in the Sun Belt — and that is nothing against what is a fine all-round league. Memphis simply would not fit in such a league (in terms of the UofM's culture, league affiliation history, men's hoops, etc.). In fact, I doubt the Belt would even be interested.
The "wildcard" option for Memphis would be to (ala UConn) go indy in football and try (perhaps with Temple in this crazy hypothetical) land membership in the Atlantic Ten.
Bill Dazzle, I wonder if Tulsa could do that???
I doubt it, Dawg. Memphis makes some sense for the A10 as it has previously shared a league with both Dayton and Saint Louis. Memphis (the city) perhaps could resonate with some A10 fans who live in big cities. Similarly, Memphis football would be in a better position (than Tulsa football) to go indie (IMO).
(This post was last modified: 02-23-2023 09:58 AM by bill dazzle.)
RE: MEMPHIS--when the dust settles-where is MEMPHIS
(02-16-2023 03:58 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:
(02-16-2023 02:28 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:
(02-16-2023 11:35 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:
(02-15-2023 01:11 PM)Rube Dali Wrote: Where it's always been, on the east bank of the Mississippi River.
In all seriousness, the G2 in the Sun Belt.
/not s
Sun Belt----I hope not
I imagine Memphis would choose football independence and try to get into the Big East before the Sun Belt. However, I anticipate Memphis will be in the XII or ACC when all is said and done.
Memphis would never seek membership in the Sun Belt — and that is nothing against what is a fine all-round league. Memphis simply would not fit in such a league (in terms of the UofM's culture, league affiliation history, men's hoops, etc.). In fact, I doubt the Belt would even be interested.
The "wildcard" option for Memphis would be to (ala UConn) go indy in football and try (perhaps with Temple in this crazy hypothetical) land membership in the Atlantic Ten.
don't be silly. Of course the SBC would be interested. Memphis wouldn't for all the reasons stated, but ODU/Marshall/USM/JMU hell even App and Ga Southern said the same things in the past.
Football indy is the last we'll ever hear of Memphis football. I don't think that will happen. If the AAC degrades to CUSA-2021 levels and Memphis gets left alone out there, I wouldn't say it would be impossible if the SBC keeps the trajectory up.
02-23-2023 10:41 AM
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RE: MEMPHIS--when the dust settles-where is MEMPHIS
(02-23-2023 10:41 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:
(02-16-2023 03:58 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:
(02-16-2023 02:28 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:
(02-16-2023 11:35 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:
(02-15-2023 01:11 PM)Rube Dali Wrote: Where it's always been, on the east bank of the Mississippi River.
In all seriousness, the G2 in the Sun Belt.
/not s
Sun Belt----I hope not
I imagine Memphis would choose football independence and try to get into the Big East before the Sun Belt. However, I anticipate Memphis will be in the XII or ACC when all is said and done.
Memphis would never seek membership in the Sun Belt — and that is nothing against what is a fine all-round league. Memphis simply would not fit in such a league (in terms of the UofM's culture, league affiliation history, men's hoops, etc.). In fact, I doubt the Belt would even be interested.
The "wildcard" option for Memphis would be to (ala UConn) go indy in football and try (perhaps with Temple in this crazy hypothetical) land membership in the Atlantic Ten.
don't be silly. Of course the SBC would be interested. Memphis wouldn't for all the reasons stated, but ODU/Marshall/USM/JMU hell even App and Ga Southern said the same things in the past.
Football indy is the last we'll ever hear of Memphis football. I don't think that will happen. If the AAC degrades to CUSA-2021 levels and Memphis gets left alone out there, I wouldn't say it would be impossible if the SBC keeps the trajectory up.
You know the Belt well and I don't. So I suppose you could be correct that, in some unforeseen future situation, the SBC might be interested in a Memphis that has been left hung out to dry.
My gut feeling is that if future alignment unfolds in such a manner that is hugely damaging to Memphis athletics, the UofM would explore the possibility of membership in the A10 (or perhaps some similar as-yet-formed basketball-centric league) and go indie in football. It would not be ideal — but Tiger basketball drives the bus for the university.
02-23-2023 12:33 PM
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RE: MEMPHIS--when the dust settles-where is MEMPHIS
Well it appears that the pac12 is going to get a deal that'll be smaller than the big12 numbers but enough to keep them together. I wonder if that snub will be enough to to make the big12 recalibrate and return to their original plan of adding Memphis and one other. I know that I am in the minority but I have always viewed big12 western expansion as an egotistical exercise. The current figures that the pac12 is getting is only proving what I've been saying for years, which is that the actual TV numbers for west coast football just aren't there. The late night time zone is a detriment as well as just an overall lack of interest in general towards college football. The right move all a long was to fill in their Eastern flank with Memphis in a part of the country where football is relevant.
02-24-2023 11:38 AM
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RE: MEMPHIS--when the dust settles-where is MEMPHIS
(02-24-2023 11:38 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote: Well it appears that the pac12 is going to get a deal that'll be smaller than the big12 numbers but enough to keep them together. I wonder if that snub will be enough to to make the big12 recalibrate and return to their original plan of adding Memphis and one other. I know that I am in the minority but I have always viewed big12 western expansion as an egotistical exercise. The current figures that the pac12 is getting is only proving what I've been saying for years, which is that the actual TV numbers for west coast football just aren't there. The late night time zone is a detriment as well as just an overall lack of interest in general towards college football. The right move all a long was to fill in their Eastern flank with Memphis in a part of the country where football is relevant.
The Big 12 is going to wait and see what happens with the Big Ten and SEC before it adds any other members.
RE: MEMPHIS--when the dust settles-where is MEMPHIS
(02-24-2023 11:38 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote: Well it appears that the pac12 is going to get a deal that'll be smaller than the big12 numbers but enough to keep them together. I wonder if that snub will be enough to to make the big12 recalibrate and return to their original plan of adding Memphis and one other. I know that I am in the minority but I have always viewed big12 western expansion as an egotistical exercise. The current figures that the pac12 is getting is only proving what I've been saying for years, which is that the actual TV numbers for west coast football just aren't there. The late night time zone is a detriment as well as just an overall lack of interest in general towards college football. The right move all a long was to fill in their Eastern flank with Memphis in a part of the country where football is relevant.
RE: MEMPHIS--when the dust settles-where is MEMPHIS
(02-24-2023 12:46 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:
(02-24-2023 11:38 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote: Well it appears that the pac12 is going to get a deal that'll be smaller than the big12 numbers but enough to keep them together. I wonder if that snub will be enough to to make the big12 recalibrate and return to their original plan of adding Memphis and one other. I know that I am in the minority but I have always viewed big12 western expansion as an egotistical exercise. The current figures that the pac12 is getting is only proving what I've been saying for years, which is that the actual TV numbers for west coast football just aren't there. The late night time zone is a detriment as well as just an overall lack of interest in general towards college football. The right move all a long was to fill in their Eastern flank with Memphis in a part of the country where football is relevant.
The Big 12 is going to wait and see what happens with the Big Ten and SEC before it adds any other members.
We Memphis fans must continue to be patient.
And, I think, the ACC.
If FSU and Clemson do manage to exit the ACC, and if the ACC decides to not try for B12 schools, then I think Memphis and USF might be top of the list.
RE: MEMPHIS--when the dust settles-where is MEMPHIS
(03-03-2023 06:00 PM)Skyhawk Wrote:
(02-24-2023 12:46 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:
(02-24-2023 11:38 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote: Well it appears that the pac12 is going to get a deal that'll be smaller than the big12 numbers but enough to keep them together. I wonder if that snub will be enough to to make the big12 recalibrate and return to their original plan of adding Memphis and one other. I know that I am in the minority but I have always viewed big12 western expansion as an egotistical exercise. The current figures that the pac12 is getting is only proving what I've been saying for years, which is that the actual TV numbers for west coast football just aren't there. The late night time zone is a detriment as well as just an overall lack of interest in general towards college football. The right move all a long was to fill in their Eastern flank with Memphis in a part of the country where football is relevant.
The Big 12 is going to wait and see what happens with the Big Ten and SEC before it adds any other members.
We Memphis fans must continue to be patient.
And, I think, the ACC.
If FSU and Clemson do manage to exit the ACC, and if the ACC decides to not try for B12 schools, then I think Memphis and USF might be top of the list.