They were an affiliate member and they are not on any of the WAC soccer schedules for 2022. Only HBU, also a WAC affiliate member, has them on their schedule, twice.

After what they pulled by abandoning/screwing over the conference they deserve it.

Big win for the WAC.

Don't blame the WAC one bit.

Gets the WAC down to ten members (four are affiliates), which makes scheduling easier anyway.

It seems petty to punish a non-revenue sport team for the actions of their institution.

(08-02-2022 06:28 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  It seems petty to punish a non-revenue sport team for the actions of their institution.

It seems petty to wait until the “last minute” to tell a conference you’re not joining and still expect them to keep your unneeded soccer team.

(08-02-2022 06:28 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  It seems petty to punish a non-revenue sport team for the actions of their institution.

But UIW soccer is part of that institution? I also would guess this was negotiated/mentioned when UIW was debating between the Southland/WAC initially.

Maybe the ASun or SoCon would take them? There's surprisingly few men's soccer programs in Texas - UIW, Houston Baptist, SMU, and UTRGV appear to be the only ones.

(08-02-2022 08:13 AM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(08-02-2022 06:28 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  It seems petty to punish a non-revenue sport team for the actions of their institution.

It seems petty to wait until the “last minute” to tell a conference you’re not joining and still expect them to keep your unneeded soccer team.

If they had declined the invitation to begin with I agree it would be petty to kick out their men's soccer team. But to agree to move and then cancel at the last minute isn't very nice as it left WAC football in a lurch.

Pro tip...If you are an affiliate in a conference that really doesn't need your presence, don't piss off the mother ship. Notice Houston Baptist (also not needed) is still an affiliate in good standing.

(08-02-2022 08:13 AM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(08-02-2022 06:28 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  It seems petty to punish a non-revenue sport team for the actions of their institution.

It seems petty to wait until the “last minute” to tell a conference you’re not joining and still expect them to keep your unneeded soccer team.

Maybe they had signed a contract converting their affiliate membership to a full membership. That makes more sense than saying that they would playing women's soccer as a full member and men's soccer as an affiliate.

UIW does have games scheduled against Furman and Campbell as part of a Houston Invitational. It also has a game at ORU.

(08-02-2022 09:19 AM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  

(08-02-2022 08:13 AM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(08-02-2022 06:28 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  It seems petty to punish a non-revenue sport team for the actions of their institution.

It seems petty to wait until the “last minute” to tell a conference you’re not joining and still expect them to keep your unneeded soccer team.

If they had declined the invitation to begin with I agree it would be petty to kick out their men's soccer team. But to agree to move and then cancel at the last minute isn't very nice as it left WAC football in a lurch.

Pro tip...If you are an affiliate in a conference that really doesn't need your presence, don't piss off the mother ship. Notice Houston Baptist (also not needed) is still an affiliate in good standing.

Agreed. The WAC was doing UIW a favor by hosting their men’s soccer team. It was UIW that extinguished any reason for the WAC to continue doing that favor.

What happened?

(08-02-2022 10:21 AM)Huan Wrote:  What happened?

1. In November 2021 UIW agreed to join the WAC as an all-sports member beginning this fall.
2. Just five weeks ago UIW reneged and told the WAC it would stay in the Southland instead.
3. The WAC asked UIW to at least play football in the WAC this coming season so as to save all of the WAC football programs from having to scramble at the last minute to replace UIW on their schedules; UIW refused.
4. When the WAC men’s soccer schedule appeared UIW was not on it.

(08-02-2022 10:57 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  

(08-02-2022 10:21 AM)Huan Wrote:  What happened?

1. UIW agreed to join the WAC as an all-sports member beginning this fall.
2. UIW reneged and told the WAC just a month ago that it would stay in the Southland instead.
3. The WAC asked UIW to at least play football in the WAC this coming season so as to save all of the WAC football programs from having to scramble at the last minute to replace UIW on their schedules; UIW refused.
4. When the WAC men’s soccer schedule appeared UIW was not on it.

On number 2, that is without context. A better of way of saying it would be, “UIW backed out of their commitment to join, 1 week before they were supposed to”. It hasn’t even been 2 months. It’s the fact they did it at the “last minute” and jacked with the football schedule.

(08-02-2022 11:01 AM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(08-02-2022 10:57 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  

(08-02-2022 10:21 AM)Huan Wrote:  What happened?

1. UIW agreed to join the WAC as an all-sports member beginning this fall.
2. UIW reneged and told the WAC just a month ago that it would stay in the Southland instead.
3. The WAC asked UIW to at least play football in the WAC this coming season so as to save all of the WAC football programs from having to scramble at the last minute to replace UIW on their schedules; UIW refused.
4. When the WAC men’s soccer schedule appeared UIW was not on it.

On number 2, that is without context. A better of way of saying it would be, “UIW backed out of their commitment to join, 1 week before they were supposed to”. It hasn’t even been 2 months. It’s the fact they did it at the “last minute” and jacked with the football schedule.

Yep, since their scheduled transition date was July 1st it was actually just a week before joining that they backed out. It was a bush league move.

(08-01-2022 10:17 PM)Utgrizfan Wrote:  After what they pulled by abandoning/screwingnover the conference they deserve it.

Love UIW now, rooting hard for them.

(08-02-2022 11:45 AM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 10:17 PM)Utgrizfan Wrote:  After what they pulled by abandoning/screwingnover the conference they deserve it.

Love UIW now, rooting hard for them.

Why? Who do you currently root for?

(08-02-2022 06:28 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  It seems petty to punish a non-revenue sport team for the actions of their institution.

The WAC is famous for shooting themselves in the foot.

UIW leaving WAC football schedule in the lurch is one of the few times where I think a conference booting their affiliate in response is reasonable. That they have a SLC football schedule means UIW knew well before they backed out that this was going to be their action.

Justified IMO.

(08-02-2022 04:21 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(08-02-2022 06:28 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  It seems petty to punish a non-revenue sport team for the actions of their institution.

The WAC is famous for shooting themselves in the foot.

Yeah!!!!! San Jose State, UNLV, and Air Force are looking to follow UIW in solidarity!

(08-02-2022 04:45 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(08-02-2022 04:21 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(08-02-2022 06:28 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  It seems petty to punish a non-revenue sport team for the actions of their institution.

The WAC is famous for shooting themselves in the foot.

Yeah!!!!! San Jose State, UNLV, and Air Force are looking to follow UIW in solidarity!

I hear the Pac is looking for new members...