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The San Diego Union-Tribune on SDSU and Pac-12 Expansion
Good article here by Mark Zeigler of the San Diego Union-Tribune on SDSU and Pac-12 expansion.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sandieg...f_amp=true
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SMU brings a church-linked feel to the PAC? Lol well I’m glad their research for SMU was learning what the acronym stood for and that’s it.
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14 with SDSU, Boise, Col St and SMU. Give them all half shares for the first contract.

They have to be worth something collectively on the basis of inventory alone.
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(07-30-2022 02:04 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  14 with SDSU, Boise, Col St and SMU. Give them all half shares for the first contract.

They have to be worth something collectively on the basis of inventory alone.

That boils down to two out of SDSU, Colorado State and SMU, since there's No Way in Hades that Cal and Stanford agree to Boise State.
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(07-30-2022 02:14 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 02:04 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  14 with SDSU, Boise, Col St and SMU. Give them all half shares for the first contract.

They have to be worth something collectively on the basis of inventory alone.

That boils down to two out of SDSU, Colorado State and SMU, since there's No Way in Hades that Cal and Stanford agree to Boise State.

It doesn't matter as Oregon, Stanford, Cal and Washington are perhaps 2 years out the door for a 20+ team B1G soon.

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Pac 12 = San Diego & SMU
Pac 14 = San Diego, SMU,
#13 = One of: Houston, Baylor, BYU, Memphis, CSU, Boise State
#14 = Air Force for football & Gonzaga for basketball
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RE: The San Diego Union-Tribune on SDSU and Pac-12 Expansion
(07-30-2022 01:57 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  Good article here by Mark Zeigler of the San Diego Union-Tribune on SDSU and Pac-12 expansion.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sandieg...f_amp=true

Zeigler did not quite get it right:
"We will look at media value, athletic strength, academic and cultural fit, and geography from a recruiting and student-athlete experience standpoint," said Kiavkoff.

Zeigler: "He outlined four criteria: media rights value, competitive strength, academic fit and geography. He declined to discuss specific expansion targets, but he didn’t have to. San Diego State doesn’t check all four boxes — its TV numbers aren’t eye-popping and its academics, though improving, are not yet on par with the top of the conference — but it checks enough of them to clearly separate from college football’s next echelon."

Kliavkoff never said that SDSU had to be on par with the top of the conference academically and the PAC knows that TV numbers are not relevant when comparing the MWC and PAC. The Boise State-SDSU game last season on CBS got 1.95 million viewers. That was an encouraging sign. But most MWC games are on at night on FS1 or CBSSN, and the TV ratings are just not good for those games. In San Diego, SDSU would own the TV market for college football.
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RE: The San Diego Union-Tribune on SDSU and Pac-12 Expansion
(07-30-2022 02:49 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 01:57 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  Good article here by Mark Zeigler of the San Diego Union-Tribune on SDSU and Pac-12 expansion.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sandieg...f_amp=true

Zeigler did not quite get it right:
"We will look at media value, athletic strength, academic and cultural fit, and geography from a recruiting and student-athlete experience standpoint," said Kiavkoff.

Zeigler: "He outlined four criteria: media rights value, competitive strength, academic fit and geography. He declined to discuss specific expansion targets, but he didn’t have to. San Diego State doesn’t check all four boxes — its TV numbers aren’t eye-popping and its academics, though improving, are not yet on par with the top of the conference — but it checks enough of them to clearly separate from college football’s next echelon."

Kliavkoff never said that SDSU had to be on par with the top of the conference academically and the PAC knows that TV numbers are not relevant when comparing the MWC and PAC. The Boise State-SDSU game last season on CBS got 1.95 million viewers. That was an encouraging sign. But most MWC games are on at night on FS1 or CBSSN, and the TV ratings are just not good for those games. In San Diego, SDSU would own the TV market for college football.

Boise State's ratings against UCF, BYU, Oklahoma State and San Diego State that drew more than a million Boise State is clearly the top runner to the P5. Their viewership was better than Arizona, California, Oregon State and Colorado, and close to Arizona State. Move them in the PAC 12? They could easily past Arizona State and Washington State.
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(07-30-2022 02:58 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 02:49 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 01:57 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  Good article here by Mark Zeigler of the San Diego Union-Tribune on SDSU and Pac-12 expansion.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sandieg...f_amp=true

Zeigler did not quite get it right:
"We will look at media value, athletic strength, academic and cultural fit, and geography from a recruiting and student-athlete experience standpoint," said Kiavkoff.

Zeigler: "He outlined four criteria: media rights value, competitive strength, academic fit and geography. He declined to discuss specific expansion targets, but he didn’t have to. San Diego State doesn’t check all four boxes — its TV numbers aren’t eye-popping and its academics, though improving, are not yet on par with the top of the conference — but it checks enough of them to clearly separate from college football’s next echelon."

Kliavkoff never said that SDSU had to be on par with the top of the conference academically and the PAC knows that TV numbers are not relevant when comparing the MWC and PAC. The Boise State-SDSU game last season on CBS got 1.95 million viewers. That was an encouraging sign. But most MWC games are on at night on FS1 or CBSSN, and the TV ratings are just not good for those games. In San Diego, SDSU would own the TV market for college football.

Boise State's ratings against UCF, BYU, Oklahoma State and San Diego State that drew more than a million Boise State is clearly the top runner to the P5. Their viewership was better than Arizona, California, Oregon State and Colorado, and close to Arizona State. Move them in the PAC 12? They could easily past Arizona State and Washington State.

Academically Boise is now "ok" because of their co-flagship status in Idaho.

Something Fresno and Gonzaga can't even get close to touching.
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CU will never share a conference with CSU. SMU would at least give the PAC a big central time zone market and good academics.
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RE: The San Diego Union-Tribune on SDSU and Pac-12 Expansion
(07-30-2022 03:03 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 02:58 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 02:49 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 01:57 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  Good article here by Mark Zeigler of the San Diego Union-Tribune on SDSU and Pac-12 expansion.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sandieg...f_amp=true

Zeigler did not quite get it right:
"We will look at media value, athletic strength, academic and cultural fit, and geography from a recruiting and student-athlete experience standpoint," said Kiavkoff.

Zeigler: "He outlined four criteria: media rights value, competitive strength, academic fit and geography. He declined to discuss specific expansion targets, but he didn’t have to. San Diego State doesn’t check all four boxes — its TV numbers aren’t eye-popping and its academics, though improving, are not yet on par with the top of the conference — but it checks enough of them to clearly separate from college football’s next echelon."

Kliavkoff never said that SDSU had to be on par with the top of the conference academically and the PAC knows that TV numbers are not relevant when comparing the MWC and PAC. The Boise State-SDSU game last season on CBS got 1.95 million viewers. That was an encouraging sign. But most MWC games are on at night on FS1 or CBSSN, and the TV ratings are just not good for those games. In San Diego, SDSU would own the TV market for college football.

Boise State's ratings against UCF, BYU, Oklahoma State and San Diego State that drew more than a million Boise State is clearly the top runner to the P5. Their viewership was better than Arizona, California, Oregon State and Colorado, and close to Arizona State. Move them in the PAC 12? They could easily past Arizona State and Washington State.

Academically Boise is now "ok" because of their co-flagship status in Idaho.

Something Fresno and Gonzaga can't even get close to touching.

That has no value.

USNWR isn't great, but just for illustration, Fresno is #213 and Boise is in the "also rans," #s 299-391. Washington St. is the bottom of the Pac at #179.
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RE: The San Diego Union-Tribune on SDSU and Pac-12 Expansion
(07-30-2022 03:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 03:03 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 02:58 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 02:49 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 01:57 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  Good article here by Mark Zeigler of the San Diego Union-Tribune on SDSU and Pac-12 expansion.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sandieg...f_amp=true

Zeigler did not quite get it right:
"We will look at media value, athletic strength, academic and cultural fit, and geography from a recruiting and student-athlete experience standpoint," said Kiavkoff.

Zeigler: "He outlined four criteria: media rights value, competitive strength, academic fit and geography. He declined to discuss specific expansion targets, but he didn’t have to. San Diego State doesn’t check all four boxes — its TV numbers aren’t eye-popping and its academics, though improving, are not yet on par with the top of the conference — but it checks enough of them to clearly separate from college football’s next echelon."

Kliavkoff never said that SDSU had to be on par with the top of the conference academically and the PAC knows that TV numbers are not relevant when comparing the MWC and PAC. The Boise State-SDSU game last season on CBS got 1.95 million viewers. That was an encouraging sign. But most MWC games are on at night on FS1 or CBSSN, and the TV ratings are just not good for those games. In San Diego, SDSU would own the TV market for college football.

Boise State's ratings against UCF, BYU, Oklahoma State and San Diego State that drew more than a million Boise State is clearly the top runner to the P5. Their viewership was better than Arizona, California, Oregon State and Colorado, and close to Arizona State. Move them in the PAC 12? They could easily past Arizona State and Washington State.

Academically Boise is now "ok" because of their co-flagship status in Idaho.

Something Fresno and Gonzaga can't even get close to touching.

That has no value.

USNWR isn't great, but just for illustration, Fresno is #213 and Boise is in the "also rans," #s 299-391. Washington St. is the bottom of the Pac at #179.

Fresno has no PhD programs and sub 300 million dollar budget.

This is like trying to get Eastern Michigan added to the B1G.

Its a non-starter.
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(07-30-2022 03:21 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 03:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 03:03 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 02:58 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 02:49 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  Zeigler did not quite get it right:
"We will look at media value, athletic strength, academic and cultural fit, and geography from a recruiting and student-athlete experience standpoint," said Kiavkoff.

Zeigler: "He outlined four criteria: media rights value, competitive strength, academic fit and geography. He declined to discuss specific expansion targets, but he didn’t have to. San Diego State doesn’t check all four boxes — its TV numbers aren’t eye-popping and its academics, though improving, are not yet on par with the top of the conference — but it checks enough of them to clearly separate from college football’s next echelon."

Kliavkoff never said that SDSU had to be on par with the top of the conference academically and the PAC knows that TV numbers are not relevant when comparing the MWC and PAC. The Boise State-SDSU game last season on CBS got 1.95 million viewers. That was an encouraging sign. But most MWC games are on at night on FS1 or CBSSN, and the TV ratings are just not good for those games. In San Diego, SDSU would own the TV market for college football.

Boise State's ratings against UCF, BYU, Oklahoma State and San Diego State that drew more than a million Boise State is clearly the top runner to the P5. Their viewership was better than Arizona, California, Oregon State and Colorado, and close to Arizona State. Move them in the PAC 12? They could easily past Arizona State and Washington State.

Academically Boise is now "ok" because of their co-flagship status in Idaho.

Something Fresno and Gonzaga can't even get close to touching.

That has no value.

USNWR isn't great, but just for illustration, Fresno is #213 and Boise is in the "also rans," #s 299-391. Washington St. is the bottom of the Pac at #179.

Fresno has no PhD programs and sub 300 million dollar budget.

This is like trying to get Eastern Michigan added to the B1G.

Its a non-starter.

As is Boise to the Pac 10.
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RE: The San Diego Union-Tribune on SDSU and Pac-12 Expansion
(07-30-2022 03:21 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 03:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 03:03 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 02:58 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 02:49 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  Zeigler did not quite get it right:
"We will look at media value, athletic strength, academic and cultural fit, and geography from a recruiting and student-athlete experience standpoint," said Kiavkoff.

Zeigler: "He outlined four criteria: media rights value, competitive strength, academic fit and geography. He declined to discuss specific expansion targets, but he didn’t have to. San Diego State doesn’t check all four boxes — its TV numbers aren’t eye-popping and its academics, though improving, are not yet on par with the top of the conference — but it checks enough of them to clearly separate from college football’s next echelon."

Kliavkoff never said that SDSU had to be on par with the top of the conference academically and the PAC knows that TV numbers are not relevant when comparing the MWC and PAC. The Boise State-SDSU game last season on CBS got 1.95 million viewers. That was an encouraging sign. But most MWC games are on at night on FS1 or CBSSN, and the TV ratings are just not good for those games. In San Diego, SDSU would own the TV market for college football.

Boise State's ratings against UCF, BYU, Oklahoma State and San Diego State that drew more than a million Boise State is clearly the top runner to the P5. Their viewership was better than Arizona, California, Oregon State and Colorado, and close to Arizona State. Move them in the PAC 12? They could easily past Arizona State and Washington State.

Academically Boise is now "ok" because of their co-flagship status in Idaho.

Something Fresno and Gonzaga can't even get close to touching.

That has no value.

USNWR isn't great, but just for illustration, Fresno is #213 and Boise is in the "also rans," #s 299-391. Washington St. is the bottom of the Pac at #179.

Fresno has no PhD programs and sub 300 million dollar budget.

This is like trying to get Eastern Michigan added to the B1G.

Its a non-starter.
Yes they do, 2 of my friends have a PhD in education from Fresno St.

UC system could allow the CSUs to partner up w/ them to raise their research status tomorrow if they wanted. They choose not to. Thus keeping us as teachers/ag schools.
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RE: The San Diego Union-Tribune on SDSU and Pac-12 Expansion
(07-30-2022 02:58 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 02:49 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 01:57 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  Good article here by Mark Zeigler of the San Diego Union-Tribune on SDSU and Pac-12 expansion.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sandieg...f_amp=true

Zeigler did not quite get it right:
"We will look at media value, athletic strength, academic and cultural fit, and geography from a recruiting and student-athlete experience standpoint," said Kiavkoff.

Zeigler: "He outlined four criteria: media rights value, competitive strength, academic fit and geography. He declined to discuss specific expansion targets, but he didn’t have to. San Diego State doesn’t check all four boxes — its TV numbers aren’t eye-popping and its academics, though improving, are not yet on par with the top of the conference — but it checks enough of them to clearly separate from college football’s next echelon."

Kliavkoff never said that SDSU had to be on par with the top of the conference academically and the PAC knows that TV numbers are not relevant when comparing the MWC and PAC. The Boise State-SDSU game last season on CBS got 1.95 million viewers. That was an encouraging sign. But most MWC games are on at night on FS1 or CBSSN, and the TV ratings are just not good for those games. In San Diego, SDSU would own the TV market for college football.

Boise State's ratings against UCF, BYU, Oklahoma State and San Diego State that drew more than a million Boise State is clearly the top runner to the P5. Their viewership was better than Arizona, California, Oregon State and Colorado, and close to Arizona State. Move them in the PAC 12? They could easily past Arizona State and Washington State.

Boise State has no chance academically. Who would support them in the PAC? Which of the seven AAU schools would want them? Stanford and Cal have never played Boise State in football. Boise is in a small market that does not help in recruiting. They come to your market to recruit players, but no one is going to their market to recruit. They are not a good fit at this time.
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(07-30-2022 03:34 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 03:21 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 03:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 03:03 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 02:58 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Boise State's ratings against UCF, BYU, Oklahoma State and San Diego State that drew more than a million Boise State is clearly the top runner to the P5. Their viewership was better than Arizona, California, Oregon State and Colorado, and close to Arizona State. Move them in the PAC 12? They could easily past Arizona State and Washington State.

Academically Boise is now "ok" because of their co-flagship status in Idaho.

Something Fresno and Gonzaga can't even get close to touching.

That has no value.

USNWR isn't great, but just for illustration, Fresno is #213 and Boise is in the "also rans," #s 299-391. Washington St. is the bottom of the Pac at #179.

Fresno has no PhD programs and sub 300 million dollar budget.

This is like trying to get Eastern Michigan added to the B1G.

Its a non-starter.
Yes they do, 2 of my friends have a PhD in education from Fresno St.

UC system could allow the CSUs to partner up w/ them to raise their research status tomorrow if they wanted. They choose not to. Thus keeping us as teachers/ag schools.

Well that is too bad.

That places Fresno too far back on the expansion discussion. Boise is in a much better shape without those shackles and in a different state from Cal/Stanford. Much more academic upside too for Boise.
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(07-30-2022 03:38 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 02:58 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 02:49 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 01:57 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  Good article here by Mark Zeigler of the San Diego Union-Tribune on SDSU and Pac-12 expansion.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sandieg...f_amp=true

Zeigler did not quite get it right:
"We will look at media value, athletic strength, academic and cultural fit, and geography from a recruiting and student-athlete experience standpoint," said Kiavkoff.

Zeigler: "He outlined four criteria: media rights value, competitive strength, academic fit and geography. He declined to discuss specific expansion targets, but he didn’t have to. San Diego State doesn’t check all four boxes — its TV numbers aren’t eye-popping and its academics, though improving, are not yet on par with the top of the conference — but it checks enough of them to clearly separate from college football’s next echelon."

Kliavkoff never said that SDSU had to be on par with the top of the conference academically and the PAC knows that TV numbers are not relevant when comparing the MWC and PAC. The Boise State-SDSU game last season on CBS got 1.95 million viewers. That was an encouraging sign. But most MWC games are on at night on FS1 or CBSSN, and the TV ratings are just not good for those games. In San Diego, SDSU would own the TV market for college football.

Boise State's ratings against UCF, BYU, Oklahoma State and San Diego State that drew more than a million Boise State is clearly the top runner to the P5. Their viewership was better than Arizona, California, Oregon State and Colorado, and close to Arizona State. Move them in the PAC 12? They could easily past Arizona State and Washington State.

Boise State has no chance academically. Who would support them in the PAC? Which of the seven AAU schools would want them? Stanford and Cal have never played Boise State in football. Boise is in a small market that does not help in recruiting. They come to your market to recruit players, but no one is going to their market to recruit. They are not a good fit at this time.

Boise already does more research dollars than SMU.

In 10 years they'll be doing double.
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Looks like SMU is in if that's the criteria they are using.... I know I made a silly thread earlier, but they literally have an AAC West pipeline to perpetually backfill so long as the PAC staggers future defections (losing 1-2 schools at a time). Once the stringent academic criteria fade as Stanford and Cal pick their bags, the new PAC will be able to add a BSU. But this new PAC would have both MWC and AAC West backfills at their disposal. Utah St, CSU, AFA, Rice will backfill the four corners.
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(07-30-2022 03:41 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 03:38 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 02:58 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 02:49 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 01:57 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  Good article here by Mark Zeigler of the San Diego Union-Tribune on SDSU and Pac-12 expansion.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sandieg...f_amp=true

Zeigler did not quite get it right:
"We will look at media value, athletic strength, academic and cultural fit, and geography from a recruiting and student-athlete experience standpoint," said Kiavkoff.

Zeigler: "He outlined four criteria: media rights value, competitive strength, academic fit and geography. He declined to discuss specific expansion targets, but he didn’t have to. San Diego State doesn’t check all four boxes — its TV numbers aren’t eye-popping and its academics, though improving, are not yet on par with the top of the conference — but it checks enough of them to clearly separate from college football’s next echelon."

Kliavkoff never said that SDSU had to be on par with the top of the conference academically and the PAC knows that TV numbers are not relevant when comparing the MWC and PAC. The Boise State-SDSU game last season on CBS got 1.95 million viewers. That was an encouraging sign. But most MWC games are on at night on FS1 or CBSSN, and the TV ratings are just not good for those games. In San Diego, SDSU would own the TV market for college football.

Boise State's ratings against UCF, BYU, Oklahoma State and San Diego State that drew more than a million Boise State is clearly the top runner to the P5. Their viewership was better than Arizona, California, Oregon State and Colorado, and close to Arizona State. Move them in the PAC 12? They could easily past Arizona State and Washington State.

Boise State has no chance academically. Who would support them in the PAC? Which of the seven AAU schools would want them? Stanford and Cal have never played Boise State in football. Boise is in a small market that does not help in recruiting. They come to your market to recruit players, but no one is going to their market to recruit. They are not a good fit at this time.

Boise already does more research dollars than SMU.

In 10 years they'll be doing double.

Boise State is the lowest ranked school academically in the MWC. UNLV is an R1 school with a law school and medical school. In a bigger market.
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RE: The San Diego Union-Tribune on SDSU and Pac-12 Expansion
(07-30-2022 04:00 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 03:41 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 03:38 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 02:58 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(07-30-2022 02:49 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  Zeigler did not quite get it right:
"We will look at media value, athletic strength, academic and cultural fit, and geography from a recruiting and student-athlete experience standpoint," said Kiavkoff.

Zeigler: "He outlined four criteria: media rights value, competitive strength, academic fit and geography. He declined to discuss specific expansion targets, but he didn’t have to. San Diego State doesn’t check all four boxes — its TV numbers aren’t eye-popping and its academics, though improving, are not yet on par with the top of the conference — but it checks enough of them to clearly separate from college football’s next echelon."

Kliavkoff never said that SDSU had to be on par with the top of the conference academically and the PAC knows that TV numbers are not relevant when comparing the MWC and PAC. The Boise State-SDSU game last season on CBS got 1.95 million viewers. That was an encouraging sign. But most MWC games are on at night on FS1 or CBSSN, and the TV ratings are just not good for those games. In San Diego, SDSU would own the TV market for college football.

Boise State's ratings against UCF, BYU, Oklahoma State and San Diego State that drew more than a million Boise State is clearly the top runner to the P5. Their viewership was better than Arizona, California, Oregon State and Colorado, and close to Arizona State. Move them in the PAC 12? They could easily past Arizona State and Washington State.

Boise State has no chance academically. Who would support them in the PAC? Which of the seven AAU schools would want them? Stanford and Cal have never played Boise State in football. Boise is in a small market that does not help in recruiting. They come to your market to recruit players, but no one is going to their market to recruit. They are not a good fit at this time.

Boise already does more research dollars than SMU.

In 10 years they'll be doing double.

Boise State is the lowest ranked school academically in the MWC. UNLV is an R1 school with a law school and medical school. In a bigger market.
Also the fact that Idaho doesn't open up a new/great recruiting ground for the Pac. Basically the MWC needs to hope the 4 corners leave so all of BSU, Fresno, CSU, Hawaii, UNLV get in. Right now it sounds like what, SDSU and SMU or maybe someone else or no one.
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