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(08-02-2022 11:27 AM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  One issue with SMU is that you will be at a distinct disadvantage with travel.

Similar to when TCU was in the MWC.

Yes, a little more travel distance, but Dallas is probably the easiest city from an air travel standpoint. DFW is the perfect middle of the country hub airport and Love Field is approx. 5 miles from SMU's stadium.

SMU used to share a conference with Hawaii (with much less money). They'd make this work if offered.

Yes - for sure. I mean, SMU has just watched the best teams in the AAC leave (UCF, Cincinnati and Houston), has been sharing a market with a TCU program that regained its power status a decade ago, its in-state competitor of Baylor for both athletic recruits and regular students has seen a sports renaissance over the past several years, and is now in a league with UNT and UTSA. I think SMU would *pay* to be in the Pac-12, much less care about the travel time or costs.

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(08-03-2022 03:06 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
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(08-03-2022 02:00 PM)Big Foote Wrote:  
(08-02-2022 11:28 AM)YNot Wrote:  
(08-02-2022 11:27 AM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  One issue with SMU is that you will be at a distinct disadvantage with travel.

Similar to when TCU was in the MWC.

Yes, a little more travel distance, but Dallas is probably the easiest city from an air travel standpoint. DFW is the perfect middle of the country hub airport and Love Field is approx. 5 miles from SMU's stadium.

SMU used to share a conference with Hawaii (with much less money). They'd make this work if offered.

Yes - for sure. I mean, SMU has just watched the best teams in the AAC leave (UCF, Cincinnati and Houston), has been sharing a market with a TCU program that regained its power status a decade ago, its in-state competitor of Baylor for both athletic recruits and regular students has seen a sports renaissance over the past several years, and is now in a league with UNT and UTSA. I think SMU would *pay* to be in the Pac-12, much less care about the travel time or costs.

The better play for the PAC is Houston than SMU. I'd go Houston first then SDSU. Keep it that way until the dust settles. The PAC 12 would have to make a money justification for Houston's travel, but their market is huge and the PAC's rights should bring more money than the Big 12 based upon viewership. The original 8 of the Big 12 are going to get paid, but I don't think they are sharing the UT/OU money which will over pay them one last time. Houston isn't one of them.
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(08-03-2022 04:31 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  
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(08-03-2022 02:56 PM)inutech Wrote:  
(08-03-2022 02:00 PM)Big Foote Wrote:  
(08-02-2022 11:28 AM)YNot Wrote:  Similar to when TCU was in the MWC.

Yes, a little more travel distance, but Dallas is probably the easiest city from an air travel standpoint. DFW is the perfect middle of the country hub airport and Love Field is approx. 5 miles from SMU's stadium.

SMU used to share a conference with Hawaii (with much less money). They'd make this work if offered.

Yes - for sure. I mean, SMU has just watched the best teams in the AAC leave (UCF, Cincinnati and Houston), has been sharing a market with a TCU program that regained its power status a decade ago, its in-state competitor of Baylor for both athletic recruits and regular students has seen a sports renaissance over the past several years, and is now in a league with UNT and UTSA. I think SMU would *pay* to be in the Pac-12, much less care about the travel time or costs.

The better play for the PAC is Houston than SMU. I'd go Houston first then SDSU. Keep it that way until the dust settles. The PAC 12 would have to make a money justification for Houston's travel, but their market is huge and the PAC's rights should bring more money than the Big 12 based upon viewership. The original 8 of the Big 12 are going to get paid, but I don't think they are sharing the UT/OU money which will over pay them one last time. Houston isn't one of them.

I would agree that Houston and SDSU would be great, but I do not see Houston leaving the leaving the Big 12 for a PAC that may be on "life support". The best situation would be Houston and either TCU/SMU from Texas - then you have both Texas cities (DFW-#5 tv mkt & Houston #10 tv mkt). DFW is projected to be #3 within 7 to 10 years. Now add SDSU and either Boise State or the combination of Air Force/Gonzaga. Now you have provided the PAC with good backup should there be any other PAC departures.
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(08-03-2022 05:06 PM)Big Foote Wrote:  
(08-03-2022 04:31 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  
(08-03-2022 03:06 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(08-03-2022 02:56 PM)inutech Wrote:  
(08-03-2022 02:00 PM)Big Foote Wrote:  Yes, a little more travel distance, but Dallas is probably the easiest city from an air travel standpoint. DFW is the perfect middle of the country hub airport and Love Field is approx. 5 miles from SMU's stadium.

SMU used to share a conference with Hawaii (with much less money). They'd make this work if offered.

Yes - for sure. I mean, SMU has just watched the best teams in the AAC leave (UCF, Cincinnati and Houston), has been sharing a market with a TCU program that regained its power status a decade ago, its in-state competitor of Baylor for both athletic recruits and regular students has seen a sports renaissance over the past several years, and is now in a league with UNT and UTSA. I think SMU would *pay* to be in the Pac-12, much less care about the travel time or costs.

The better play for the PAC is Houston than SMU. I'd go Houston first then SDSU. Keep it that way until the dust settles. The PAC 12 would have to make a money justification for Houston's travel, but their market is huge and the PAC's rights should bring more money than the Big 12 based upon viewership. The original 8 of the Big 12 are going to get paid, but I don't think they are sharing the UT/OU money which will over pay them one last time. Houston isn't one of them.

I would agree that Houston and SDSU would be great, but I do not see Houston leaving the leaving the Big 12 for a PAC that may be on "life support". The best situation would be Houston and either TCU/SMU from Texas - then you have both Texas cities (DFW-#5 tv mkt & Houston #10 tv mkt). DFW is projected to be #3 within 7 to 10 years. Now add SDSU and either Boise State or the combination of Air Force/Gonzaga. Now you have provided the PAC with good backup should there be any other PAC departures.

AFA wouldn't join that. I mean, it's money so they might, but what's the impetus to add their football? If they want to snag a Texas block, TTech TCU Houston looks appealing, but it's probably not worth it.

I would add TCU OSU Baylor and KU. With SDSU in there, Baylor becomes expendable. Go big or go home. Everything stays contiguous and the Big 12 is mortally wounded. SMU is their only viable backfill. Maybe Memphis and USF.
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I posted this in another thread but what are the chances that the Big XII cuts off the PAC's expansion plans by taking SMU and SDSU first? Would that be enough to entice the four corner schools to make the jump, especially if the Big XII contract does actually come in at 10 million over the PAC's?
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(08-03-2022 06:08 PM)Shox Wrote:  I posted this in another thread but what are the chances that the Big XII cuts off the PAC's expansion plans by taking SMU and SDSU first? Would that be enough to entice the four corner schools to make the jump, especially if the Big XII contract does actually come in at 10 million over the PAC's?

None... that's a horrible move anyhow for the Big 12. Adding SDSU to get Zona is the only move.

The best value move the PAC can make, if they can't get Big 12 members, is BSU (FO only) with Gonzaga and a longer term GoR to entice BSU.

Oh and you get two OOC games every year against BYU (at least rights to one depending on who hosts). Getting BSU to bite without taking the rest of their sports, and Zaga instead (unless they want to play with 13 BBall/all-sports members), would be a get to say the least. Not Big 12 gets, but gets nonetheless.
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Denver.

That gets us to 87% of skiing championships.


Vermont. Wyoming. New Mexico. Dartmouth gets us to 100%.

We’re a ski conference now.
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RE: The San Diego Union-Tribune on SDSU and Pac-12 Expansion
(08-03-2022 06:05 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  
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(08-03-2022 04:31 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  
(08-03-2022 03:06 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(08-03-2022 02:56 PM)inutech Wrote:  SMU used to share a conference with Hawaii (with much less money). They'd make this work if offered.

Yes - for sure. I mean, SMU has just watched the best teams in the AAC leave (UCF, Cincinnati and Houston), has been sharing a market with a TCU program that regained its power status a decade ago, its in-state competitor of Baylor for both athletic recruits and regular students has seen a sports renaissance over the past several years, and is now in a league with UNT and UTSA. I think SMU would *pay* to be in the Pac-12, much less care about the travel time or costs.

The better play for the PAC is Houston than SMU. I'd go Houston first then SDSU. Keep it that way until the dust settles. The PAC 12 would have to make a money justification for Houston's travel, but their market is huge and the PAC's rights should bring more money than the Big 12 based upon viewership. The original 8 of the Big 12 are going to get paid, but I don't think they are sharing the UT/OU money which will over pay them one last time. Houston isn't one of them.

I would agree that Houston and SDSU would be great, but I do not see Houston leaving the leaving the Big 12 for a PAC that may be on "life support". The best situation would be Houston and either TCU/SMU from Texas - then you have both Texas cities (DFW-#5 tv mkt & Houston #10 tv mkt). DFW is projected to be #3 within 7 to 10 years. Now add SDSU and either Boise State or the combination of Air Force/Gonzaga. Now you have provided the PAC with good backup should there be any other PAC departures.

AFA wouldn't join that. I mean, it's money so they might, but what's the impetus to add their football? If they want to snag a Texas block, TTech TCU Houston looks appealing, but it's probably not worth it.

I would add TCU OSU Baylor and KU. With SDSU in there, Baylor becomes expendable. Go big or go home. Everything stays contiguous and the Big 12 is mortally wounded. SMU is their only viable backfill. Maybe Memphis and USF.

Big 12 schools are not leaving for the PAC due to current uncertainty - that can change! Those that just worry about the immediate $ impact and suggest staying at 10 schools may wake up and find the PAC gone!
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(08-03-2022 04:31 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  
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(08-03-2022 02:56 PM)inutech Wrote:  
(08-03-2022 02:00 PM)Big Foote Wrote:  
(08-02-2022 11:28 AM)YNot Wrote:  Similar to when TCU was in the MWC.

Yes, a little more travel distance, but Dallas is probably the easiest city from an air travel standpoint. DFW is the perfect middle of the country hub airport and Love Field is approx. 5 miles from SMU's stadium.

SMU used to share a conference with Hawaii (with much less money). They'd make this work if offered.

Yes - for sure. I mean, SMU has just watched the best teams in the AAC leave (UCF, Cincinnati and Houston), has been sharing a market with a TCU program that regained its power status a decade ago, its in-state competitor of Baylor for both athletic recruits and regular students has seen a sports renaissance over the past several years, and is now in a league with UNT and UTSA. I think SMU would *pay* to be in the Pac-12, much less care about the travel time or costs.

The better play for the PAC is Houston than SMU. I'd go Houston first then SDSU. Keep it that way until the dust settles. The PAC 12 would have to make a money justification for Houston's travel, but their market is huge and the PAC's rights should bring more money than the Big 12 based upon viewership. The original 8 of the Big 12 are going to get paid, but I don't think they are sharing the UT/OU money which will over pay them one last time. Houston isn't one of them.
Agreed on Houston being the better option but I don’t see a Big XII team leaving for the PAC right now.
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(08-03-2022 06:05 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  
(08-03-2022 05:06 PM)Big Foote Wrote:  
(08-03-2022 04:31 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  
(08-03-2022 03:06 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(08-03-2022 02:56 PM)inutech Wrote:  SMU used to share a conference with Hawaii (with much less money). They'd make this work if offered.

Yes - for sure. I mean, SMU has just watched the best teams in the AAC leave (UCF, Cincinnati and Houston), has been sharing a market with a TCU program that regained its power status a decade ago, its in-state competitor of Baylor for both athletic recruits and regular students has seen a sports renaissance over the past several years, and is now in a league with UNT and UTSA. I think SMU would *pay* to be in the Pac-12, much less care about the travel time or costs.

The better play for the PAC is Houston than SMU. I'd go Houston first then SDSU. Keep it that way until the dust settles. The PAC 12 would have to make a money justification for Houston's travel, but their market is huge and the PAC's rights should bring more money than the Big 12 based upon viewership. The original 8 of the Big 12 are going to get paid, but I don't think they are sharing the UT/OU money which will over pay them one last time. Houston isn't one of them.

I would agree that Houston and SDSU would be great, but I do not see Houston leaving the leaving the Big 12 for a PAC that may be on "life support". The best situation would be Houston and either TCU/SMU from Texas - then you have both Texas cities (DFW-#5 tv mkt & Houston #10 tv mkt). DFW is projected to be #3 within 7 to 10 years. Now add SDSU and either Boise State or the combination of Air Force/Gonzaga. Now you have provided the PAC with good backup should there be any other PAC departures.

AFA wouldn't join that. I mean, it's money so they might, but what's the impetus to add their football? If they want to snag a Texas block, TTech TCU Houston looks appealing, but it's probably not worth it.

I would add TCU OSU Baylor and KU. With SDSU in there, Baylor becomes expendable. Go big or go home. Everything stays contiguous and the Big 12 is mortally wounded. SMU is their only viable backfill. Maybe Memphis and USF.

Very similiar to what the AAC did when they back-filled with the TX schools (Rice, N. Tx. and UTSA) - they were making sure that the MWC could not significantly push into Texas. Now the only school really left is UTEP for the MWC is UTEP.
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(08-03-2022 06:46 PM)Big Foote Wrote:  
(08-03-2022 06:05 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  
(08-03-2022 05:06 PM)Big Foote Wrote:  
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(08-03-2022 03:06 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  Yes - for sure. I mean, SMU has just watched the best teams in the AAC leave (UCF, Cincinnati and Houston), has been sharing a market with a TCU program that regained its power status a decade ago, its in-state competitor of Baylor for both athletic recruits and regular students has seen a sports renaissance over the past several years, and is now in a league with UNT and UTSA. I think SMU would *pay* to be in the Pac-12, much less care about the travel time or costs.

The better play for the PAC is Houston than SMU. I'd go Houston first then SDSU. Keep it that way until the dust settles. The PAC 12 would have to make a money justification for Houston's travel, but their market is huge and the PAC's rights should bring more money than the Big 12 based upon viewership. The original 8 of the Big 12 are going to get paid, but I don't think they are sharing the UT/OU money which will over pay them one last time. Houston isn't one of them.

I would agree that Houston and SDSU would be great, but I do not see Houston leaving the leaving the Big 12 for a PAC that may be on "life support". The best situation would be Houston and either TCU/SMU from Texas - then you have both Texas cities (DFW-#5 tv mkt & Houston #10 tv mkt). DFW is projected to be #3 within 7 to 10 years. Now add SDSU and either Boise State or the combination of Air Force/Gonzaga. Now you have provided the PAC with good backup should there be any other PAC departures.

AFA wouldn't join that. I mean, it's money so they might, but what's the impetus to add their football? If they want to snag a Texas block, TTech TCU Houston looks appealing, but it's probably not worth it.

I would add TCU OSU Baylor and KU. With SDSU in there, Baylor becomes expendable. Go big or go home. Everything stays contiguous and the Big 12 is mortally wounded. SMU is their only viable backfill. Maybe Memphis and USF.

Very similiar to what the AAC did when they back-filled with the TX schools (Rice, N. Tx. and UTSA) - they were making sure that the MWC could not significantly push into Texas. Now the only school really left is UTEP for the MWC is UTEP.
Texas St. but UTEP has a history with us. If the SMU and SDSU leave would the AAC take Texas St. over say ODU or MTSU to make sure UTEP is our only choice?
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If the AAC loses SMU they are going to get Air Force. MWC won't bother with UTEP as a "Texas" addition. Texas St won't join the MWC either even if AAC failed to land AFA.
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(08-03-2022 07:02 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  If the AAC loses SMU they are going to get Air Force. MWC won't bother with UTEP as a "Texas" addition. Texas St won't join the MWC either even if AAC failed to land AFA.

Aresco likes big cities for TV market reasons - that is why he went for Houston(Rice), San Antonio(UTSA), DFW(N.TX), Charlotte, Birmingham(UAB) and S/E FL(FL Atl).This time he would probably have to look at Appalachian St, Coastal or Marshall.
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(08-03-2022 01:07 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(08-03-2022 12:04 PM)jimrtex Wrote:  Would an athletics consortium between San Diego State and UC-San Diego be feasible?

Someone who was academically/athletically qualified for UCLA, but didn't want to play in New Jersey ("if I wanted to play football in New Jersey, I would have applied to Princeton") could enroll at UCSD but play for the consortium. There may be some students who could have qualified for UCSD but wanted a better athletic experience so went to SDSU instead.

UCSD would also bring Track&Field, Volleyball, Fencing, Rowing, and Water Polo.

That's an interesting thought, but let's be real here: if an athlete is getting a scholarship from UCLA in any sport, they're very likely going to have other P5 options if their concern is truly about travel.

I think you're basically saying that UCSD and SDSU should effectively merge into one shared athletic department. That seems quite unlikely and, even if it were somehow allowed (which it probably wouldn't be), as long as the schools themselves are going to be separate entities, it's going to be a compliance nightmare on a number of levels (e.g. Title IX, which school is liable for what situation, academic standards, etc.).
None of those P5 programs are in Southern California. The idea is that the inclusion of UCSD would mollify the academics at Cal-Berkeley. The CSU's in California are severely handicapped in not being able to grant PhD's. Apparently San Diego State does have doctorate programs, but the sheet of paper is from UCSD. San Diego County has a substantial population and may be able to draw from the Inland Empire where UC Riverside is just developing.

The concept of a consortium is established in the NCAA rules - see NCAA Manual, but does not appear to have been overly successful.

Newbury College-Hellenic College Holy Cross failed after Newbury College closed. I suspect that the consortium may have been a desperation move by Newbury in the first place.

Southern Vermont College-Bennington College. Southern Vermont has closed. At the time the consortium was announced Bennington only had intramurals and it was noted that the first athlete from Bennington would be competing for Southern Vermont.

Columbia-Barnard. This appears to be the most successful likely due to the fact that when Columbia integrated, Barnard was not absorbed.

Alaska Anchorage-Alaska Fairbanks. After state support was reduced this was considered as a way to preserve some athletics. It was unknown whether the NCAA would accept two institutions 300 miles apart.

USF (Tampa)-USF Sarasota/Manatee. This would have established a rowing program at Sarasota/Manatee - maybe they have a lagoon available. Student at the branch campus could also compete in athletics at the Tampa Campus. It appears that the branch campuses (another is in St. Petersburg) have been integrated into the main body.

The Transformation Committee's June 7 minutes mention "consortiums"

https://s3.amazonaws.com/ncaaorg/committ...inutes.pdf

Transformation Committee June 7 minutes Wrote:The NCAA Division I Board of Directors charged the Transformation Committee with reviewing a model for new (or enhanced) membership obligations/requirements, including the appropriateness of a new subdivision, division or even differently defined categories of institutions (e.g., groups, leagues, consortiums).

I have no idea what a "group" or "league" is or whether a "consortium" is the same as under the current rules.
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(08-03-2022 07:02 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  If the AAC loses SMU they are going to get Air Force. MWC won't bother with UTEP as a "Texas" addition. Texas St won't join the MWC either even if AAC failed to land AFA.

Air Force is in the MWC. I doubt that the AAC can raid the MWC at this point.
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(08-03-2022 07:27 PM)Big Foote Wrote:  
(08-03-2022 07:02 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  If the AAC loses SMU they are going to get Air Force. MWC won't bother with UTEP as a "Texas" addition. Texas St won't join the MWC either even if AAC failed to land AFA.

Aresco likes big cities for TV market reasons - that is why he went for Houston(Rice), San Antonio(UTSA), DFW(N.TX), Charlotte, Birmingham(UAB) and S/E FL(FL Atl).This time he would probably have to look at Appalachian St, Coastal or Marshall.

Sunbelt teams are unlikely unless ESPN has a darn good replacement. FIU MTSU and WKU are not good replacements by themselves should the AAC take a SBC school. GSU has appeal for the AAC, but not sure ESPN wants to hurt the SBC by moving that piece over. Plus, the AAC needs a western replacement. Moving Memphis out there is ugly. LA Tech is the most obvious addition but iffy academics.
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(08-03-2022 08:14 PM)Poster Wrote:  
(08-03-2022 07:02 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  If the AAC loses SMU they are going to get Air Force. MWC won't bother with UTEP as a "Texas" addition. Texas St won't join the MWC either even if AAC failed to land AFA.

Air Force is in the MWC. I doubt that the AAC can raid the MWC at this point.
They tried and failed. They'd be losing SMU while we lose SDSU. I doubt we sit on 11 or them on 13. We will take one. UTEP is the most likely unless we want to go down the the FCS and bring in UC Davis or Cal Poly. Really what's the difference between NMSU, and the 2 Cali FCS teams?
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RE: The San Diego Union-Tribune on SDSU and Pac-12 Expansion
(08-03-2022 07:27 PM)Big Foote Wrote:  
(08-03-2022 07:02 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  If the AAC loses SMU they are going to get Air Force. MWC won't bother with UTEP as a "Texas" addition. Texas St won't join the MWC either even if AAC failed to land AFA.

Aresco likes big cities for TV market reasons - that is why he went for Houston(Rice), San Antonio(UTSA), DFW(N.TX), Charlotte, Birmingham(UAB) and S/E FL(FL Atl).This time he would probably have to look at Appalachian St, Coastal or Marshall.

Actually, Trained Geese Jr's (Aresco) better play would be going after Georgia State (Atlanta), but ESPN is not going to let him raid the SunBelt at all unless there is a real possibility that a non-ESPN conference (like C-USA, although that's very laughable right now) could poach a SunBelt team. Then , Aresco gets to spring into action on the SunBelt.
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RE: The San Diego Union-Tribune on SDSU and Pac-12 Expansion
(08-03-2022 08:14 PM)Poster Wrote:  
(08-03-2022 07:02 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  If the AAC loses SMU they are going to get Air Force. MWC won't bother with UTEP as a "Texas" addition. Texas St won't join the MWC either even if AAC failed to land AFA.

Air Force is in the MWC. I doubt that the AAC can raid the MWC at this point.

Air Force in combination with Gonzaga would make a good 4th addition to the PAC. I do not see Air Force going to the AAC if SMU leaves - too much of a lateral move!
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RE: The San Diego Union-Tribune on SDSU and Pac-12 Expansion
(08-03-2022 07:02 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  If the AAC loses SMU they are going to get Air Force. MWC won't bother with UTEP as a "Texas" addition. Texas St won't join the MWC either even if AAC failed to land AFA.

If the AAC losing anyone why would they be able to poach from the MWC?
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