As for the POS attacking the woman on the subway, my Dad taught me a long time ago that men who abuse women are usually p ussies. They don’t know what to do when confronted by another man.

I once got barred from my favorite club for 3 months for confronting a loud mouth who was hassling one of the bartenders. I asked him to cut it out. He said something and I walked over and quietly asked him if he wanted to walk outside and talk about it. He didn’t. They never did.

First time i had a gun pulled on me was telling a thug to leave a eoman alone.

I obviously lived through it

(07-28-2022 01:46 PM)Claw Wrote:  It started when we taught a generation of males that their safety is more important than their wallet or someone else's wallet. Your money isn't worth your life. Just give them the money. I remember that lesson in elementary school quite will.

That changed though. Next they were teaching boys that everyone who gets in a fight is guilty. They all get punished. That is almost universal school policy today.

We no longer teach our young men to fight. They don't know when to fight, and they don't know how to fight. When it is time to fight, they can't. They literally don't know what to do.

This is the result of such foolishness.

Talk about fighting. I was a regular in getting to fights at school. I earned multiple paddle pops every school year for fighting. Didn’t find out until I was 16 a HS football coach said I needed counseling for anger management. Same coach told me some players have a chip on their shoulder but I have the whole boulder.

It would never have been good for me to be in those situations. I remember threatening this AC DC shirt wearing hippie for being disrespectful to a teacher. He said to me what are you going to do? I told him that’s fun part of this equation you don’t know but I promise you will find out in the parking lot. He never said another word. But, I wanted him too. Glad I’ve mellowed out.

Issue 1 - How do the men on the subway KNOW if the man shouting at the woman IDENTIFIES as a man? What if ze actually identifies as a woman? So if another man - who identifies as a man - intervenes and somehow hurts ze, might THAT be considered an attack and lead to a possible arrest for both assault AND a hate crime (striking a ze)?

Issue 2 - How do the male onlookers KNOW this isn't some bizarre set up by the woman and the "drunk" man?

It gets confusing so that could be why the males hesitated getting involved.

Or they could be wimps.

(07-28-2022 06:03 PM)shere khan Wrote:  First time i had a gun pulled on me was telling a thug to leave a eoman alone.

I obviously lived through it

Agree with the overall comments on this thread. America needs its men to stand up (or speak out) for what they believe to be right. Although, as you point out, there is always an accompanying risk.

I had my jaw broken in 10th grade standing up for a smaller kid that lived on my street from me who was constantly being bullied. Like you, I lived through it. But it meant that I had to sit out from sports for the first half of that year.

(07-28-2022 02:20 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Somehow, I'm just wondering if there's more to the story than this...

A) I don't doubt that if the man moved toward her she might have felt threatened.. but I don't see her asking for help prior to that point. She just tries to ignore it until that point. Fine.

B) Out of "20" men on the platform, not one stood up? What about the women... they're not helpless in this matter either. Ehh... that's the part i find hard to believe at all.

C) She comes out to chastise those people ("smooth" move lady), and they "all" start to respond to her in a derogatory manner? I'm gonna call baloney on that one.

I refuse to believe our society has sunk to that level of non-caring to start with, and it's just awfully convenient that she can't get the attention of one person to step up on a crowded platform, until one lady hugs her after the escapade is over?


Mark me as skeptical on the whole story to start with...

My thought too...in this age...where is the video evidence.

(07-28-2022 01:46 PM)Claw Wrote:  It started when we taught a generation of males that their safety is more important than their wallet or someone else's wallet. Your money isn't worth your life. Just give them the money. I remember that lesson in elementary school quite will.

That changed though. Next they were teaching boys that everyone who gets in a fight is guilty. They all get punished. That is almost universal school policy today.

We no longer teach our young men to fight. They don't know when to fight, and they don't know how to fight. When it is time to fight, they can't. They literally don't know what to do.

This is the result of such foolishness.

Nailed it +3

The entire incident is sad commentary on our society and a reason I stay the hell out of all urban areas as much as possible.