(07-27-2022 06:17 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  In Brett McMurphy's report on Kevin Warren's comments, he cites unnamed sources as identifying seven schools that possibly 'add value': Washington, Oregon, Stanford, Cal, Notre Dame, Florida State and Miami.

Warren foresees a 'five-year transformation period' that is already in progress. He declined to comment on the league's interest in specific schools, but did confirm that AAU membership is not an absolute requirement for future membership in the Big Ten.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/big-...ayoff-more

You are reading something that is not in the article.
Warren says there are schools that add value.
A source says they are looking at those 7 schools you mention. Those schools are not necessarily the ones who Warren thinks are adding value.
Those are two different statements. They may refer to the same schools, but not necessarily.

(07-27-2022 11:24 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-27-2022 06:17 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  In Brett McMurphy's report on Kevin Warren's comments, he cites unnamed sources as identifying seven schools that possibly 'add value': Washington, Oregon, Stanford, Cal, Notre Dame, Florida State and Miami.

Warren foresees a 'five-year transformation period' that is already in progress. He declined to comment on the league's interest in specific schools, but did confirm that AAU membership is not an absolute requirement for future membership in the Big Ten.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/big-...ayoff-more

You are reading something that is not in the article.
Warren says there are schools that add value.
A source says they are looking at those 7 schools you mention. Those schools are not necessarily the ones who Warren thinks are adding value.
Those are two different statements. They may refer to the same schools, but not necessarily.

Good point. I doubt Warren spoke carelessly here. I think he knew exactly what he was doing, and I'll bet it works (whatever it is).

(07-27-2022 12:00 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(07-27-2022 11:24 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-27-2022 06:17 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  In Brett McMurphy's report on Kevin Warren's comments, he cites unnamed sources as identifying seven schools that possibly 'add value': Washington, Oregon, Stanford, Cal, Notre Dame, Florida State and Miami.

Warren foresees a 'five-year transformation period' that is already in progress. He declined to comment on the league's interest in specific schools, but did confirm that AAU membership is not an absolute requirement for future membership in the Big Ten.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/big-...ayoff-more

You are reading something that is not in the article.
Warren says there are schools that add value.
A source says they are looking at those 7 schools you mention. Those schools are not necessarily the ones who Warren thinks are adding value.
Those are two different statements. They may refer to the same schools, but not necessarily.

Good point. I doubt Warren spoke carelessly here. I think he knew exactly what he was doing, and I'll bet it works (whatever it is).

The problem is all of a sudden, San Diego State is now being talked about nationally as a top expansion prospect. We are seeing the 4 corner schools bickering with each other, but we do have schools who are ready to say yes right now like a Boise State, San Diego State, Fresno State, UNR, Colorado State, SMU, Tulane, Arkansas State, USF, Memphis, Temple, UConn, Northern Illinois, etc.

(07-27-2022 11:20 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  

(07-26-2022 03:39 PM)JRsec Wrote:  I would argue that the taking of USC/UCLA was an indelible signal of the death of the P5 when the economic disparity already indicated only two.

I've heard ESPN's offer to the PAC was 24.5 million per school. Do the math on the B12 and it will be similar. The only thing remaining is the ACC and time, pressure and economic disparity have done their work there as well. There's simply too much money to be lost between now and 2036 to believe that GOR remains in place. It will fall from within their conference if that third conference eclipses present revenue by even a tiny bit and those left behind have some access in that third conference.

^ This. It appears to be how the situation looks to Kevin Warren, too. He's talking about a five-year time frame to set up new league structures with new post-season arrangements and new media contracts. He doesn't sound like he thinks big-money decision makers are going to wait around patiently for one conference's GoR to expire in 2036.

This is why that ACC GOR will never hold. Not because it isn't legally written in a way to control the membership, the league will be told who to release when the time comes. Those schools will pay a penalty, some money will be tossed at the league, and the chosen few will move on.

(07-27-2022 12:09 PM)jacksfan29! Wrote:  This is why that ACC GOR will never hold. Not because it isn't legally written in a way to control the membership, the league will be told who to release when the time comes. Those schools will pay a penalty, some money will be tossed at the league, and the chosen few will move on.

Likely will be more of those "chosen few" moving on than left-behinds left to make their way on a listing ship

(07-27-2022 12:06 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(07-27-2022 12:00 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(07-27-2022 11:24 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-27-2022 06:17 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  In Brett McMurphy's report on Kevin Warren's comments, he cites unnamed sources as identifying seven schools that possibly 'add value': Washington, Oregon, Stanford, Cal, Notre Dame, Florida State and Miami.

Warren foresees a 'five-year transformation period' that is already in progress. He declined to comment on the league's interest in specific schools, but did confirm that AAU membership is not an absolute requirement for future membership in the Big Ten.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/big-...ayoff-more

You are reading something that is not in the article.
Warren says there are schools that add value.
A source says they are looking at those 7 schools you mention. Those schools are not necessarily the ones who Warren thinks are adding value.
Those are two different statements. They may refer to the same schools, but not necessarily.

Good point. I doubt Warren spoke carelessly here. I think he knew exactly what he was doing, and I'll bet it works (whatever it is).

The problem is all of a sudden, San Diego State is now being talked about nationally as a top expansion prospect. We are seeing the 4 corner schools bickering with each other, but we do have schools who are ready to say yes right now like a Boise State, San Diego State, Fresno State, UNR, Colorado State, SMU, Tulane, Arkansas State, USF, Memphis, Temple, UConn, Northern Illinois, etc.

I'd say the first six are only possible candidates for the PAC and no one else.

It sounds to me while B1G expanding beyond 16 is impending it won't be until ND's contract is worked out.

B1G could go to 20 with Cal, Stanford, ND and Miami as options.