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Uncertainty
Uncertainty is killing college sports. Its casting a pall that now has everyone frozen. The Big 12 and Pac are waiting on the Big 10 to move again. The ACC is looking around at each other wondering who leaves first. At some point the powers that be need to figure out what they are going to do and get it over with. Take the schools your going to take and tell everyone its over. Dragging this on for more years in the end is not going to be in their best interest. Right now it has everyone paralyzed except for 32 schools. 131 FBS schools and only 32 know their future. 33 if you count ND and if they get enough money from NBC they know what they are doing.
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(07-24-2022 02:11 PM)dcg141 Wrote:  Uncertainty is killing college sports. Its casting a pall that now has everyone frozen. The Big 12 and Pac are waiting on the Big 10 to move again. The ACC is looking around at each other wondering who leaves first. At some point the powers that be need to figure out what they are going to do and get it over with. Take the schools your going to take and tell everyone its over. Dragging this on for more years in the end is not going to be in their best interest. Right now it has everyone paralyzed except for 32 schools. 131 FBS schools and only 32 know their future. 33 if you count ND and if they get enough money from NBC they know what they are doing.

The evolution of the college game (NIL, yearly transfers, etc.) is making it harder and harder for the fans and money supporters of the schools on the outside looking in to continue justifying their respective time and donations supporting what is nothing but a minor league system for the NFL/NBA.

The imbalance between the haves and the have-nots is growing at a rapid pace and I really don't see anything to stop it in the foreseeable future.
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(07-24-2022 04:14 PM)GermantownTiger Wrote:  
(07-24-2022 02:11 PM)dcg141 Wrote:  Uncertainty is killing college sports. Its casting a pall that now has everyone frozen. The Big 12 and Pac are waiting on the Big 10 to move again. The ACC is looking around at each other wondering who leaves first. At some point the powers that be need to figure out what they are going to do and get it over with. Take the schools your going to take and tell everyone its over. Dragging this on for more years in the end is not going to be in their best interest. Right now it has everyone paralyzed except for 32 schools. 131 FBS schools and only 32 know their future. 33 if you count ND and if they get enough money from NBC they know what they are doing.

The evolution of the college game (NIL, yearly transfers, etc.) is making it harder and harder for the fans and money supporters of the schools on the outside looking in to continue justifying their respective time and donations supporting what is nothing but a minor league system for the NFL/NBA.

The imbalance between the haves and the have-nots is growing at a rapid pace and I really don't see anything to stop it in the foreseeable future.

^^THIS^^
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I just want to see college football on a fair playing field. Sick of the old guard dictating the direction. They are overpaying their hand though. They are killing one the major aspects of college football that everybody loves, the under dog story. Once college football transforms into the amateurs and only 20 teams have a legit chance at a title, I expect a huge drop off in interest. Raising kids and family is more important than watching sports in my opinion.
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(07-24-2022 05:20 PM)Crazier Wrote:  I just want to see college football on a fair playing field. Sick of the old guard dictating the direction. They are overpaying their hand though. They are killing one the major aspects of college football that everybody loves, the under dog story. Once college football transforms into the amateurs and only 20 teams have a legit chance at a title, I expect a huge drop off in interest. Raising kids and family is more important than watching sports in my opinion.

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(07-24-2022 05:29 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(07-24-2022 05:20 PM)Crazier Wrote:  I just want to see college football on a fair playing field. Sick of the old guard dictating the direction. They are overpaying their hand though. They are killing one the major aspects of college football that everybody loves, the under dog story. Once college football transforms into the amateurs and only 20 teams have a legit chance at a title, I expect a huge drop off in interest. Raising kids and family is more important than watching sports in my opinion.

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And that is why I dont just watch football mindlessly even though I enjoy watching a good game. I watch the Tigers to meet my desire to enjoy the game and I take an interest in the Tiger team. The only thing I am certain about college football is that it is corrupt.
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Ike’s sources are saying TIGERS in ACC along with West Virginia and Cincinnati ECU
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(07-24-2022 09:25 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Ike’s sources are saying TIGERS in ACC along with West Virginia and Cincinnati ECU

That settles it, we're doomed
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(07-24-2022 04:14 PM)GermantownTiger Wrote:  
(07-24-2022 02:11 PM)dcg141 Wrote:  Uncertainty is killing college sports. Its casting a pall that now has everyone frozen. The Big 12 and Pac are waiting on the Big 10 to move again. The ACC is looking around at each other wondering who leaves first. At some point the powers that be need to figure out what they are going to do and get it over with. Take the schools your going to take and tell everyone its over. Dragging this on for more years in the end is not going to be in their best interest. Right now it has everyone paralyzed except for 32 schools. 131 FBS schools and only 32 know their future. 33 if you count ND and if they get enough money from NBC they know what they are doing.

The evolution of the college game (NIL, yearly transfers, etc.) is making it harder and harder for the fans and money supporters of the schools on the outside looking in to continue justifying their respective time and donations supporting what is nothing but a minor league system for the NFL/NBA.

The imbalance between the haves and the have-nots is growing at a rapid pace and I really don't see anything to stop it in the foreseeable future.

That's just the thing. The power brokers need to make their decisions and let everyone know their place in the college universe. Then schools can raise and spend money accordingly. Dangling the carrot in front of everyone is just plain cruel. If your going to raid the ACC then stop being cheap bastards and do it, get it over with. The longer they drag this out the more animosity they create. You already have all the money, for the sake of the sport just get it over with. 75% of the sport has no idea where their future lies.
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(07-24-2022 09:36 PM)gotigers1 Wrote:  
(07-24-2022 09:25 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Ike’s sources are saying TIGERS in ACC along with West Virginia and Cincinnati ECU

That settles it, we're doomed

Yep, and so is the ACC if they should actually lose their Florida teams and one of their four North Carolina teams and realize that they MUST add ECU to remain at four NC teams, the state of Florida be damned. I can’t conceive of that being logical to anyone. Now, if the lead leprechaun had drunkenly whispered UCF instead, well . . .
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Seems like the only constant in college sports has been change. Conference realignment has been a fairly continuous process for the past 30 years.

Most of the current anxiety comes from the fear that a consolidation of the top programs into 2 megaconferences will suck all the oxygen out of the rest of college sports. But to a great extent, this consolidation has been happening for the past 30 years. During that time we've gone from a bunch of mostly equal 8- to 10-team conferences to a "BCS 6" to a "Power 5" and now likely a "Power 2". Yet somehow, there has been more than enough of an audience to sustain plenty of programs outside of the elite. The number of programs in FBS football keeps growing despite the escalating media revenues, athletic budgets, coaches salaries and facilities demands of the sport. 12 schools have joined FBS just in the past decade, half of which were not even playing football in 2000.

So yes, the rich will get richer and the gap between the haves and the have-nots will widen. But this doesn't mean that the have-nots just die off. If we end up with 32 to 48 Tier 1 programs, that still leaves 83 to 99 schools who want to play high-level college football. Maybe they all get to play for one or two playoff spots, or maybe they end up in their own division playing for a different championship. Regardless, that's still a lot of schools with millions of alumni and fans who won't just dump their favorite team and fall in behind some "Power 2" school. If the SEC and Big 10 really did break away and form their own division, playing in a 99-team division in which we are one of the top 20-25 programs from a competitive position, and have a realistic chance to win the whole thing doesn't sound all that bad.
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(07-24-2022 02:11 PM)dcg141 Wrote:  Uncertainty is killing college sports. Its casting a pall that now has everyone frozen. The Big 12 and Pac are waiting on the Big 10 to move again. The ACC is looking around at each other wondering who leaves first. At some point the powers that be need to figure out what they are going to do and get it over with. Take the schools your going to take and tell everyone its over. Dragging this on for more years in the end is not going to be in their best interest. Right now it has everyone paralyzed except for 32 schools. 131 FBS schools and only 32 know their future. 33 if you count ND and if they get enough money from NBC they know what they are doing.

The ACC's GOR is the main thing that will keep this going. Once we get closer to the expiration of that in 2036, unless they want to possibly pay an absurd amount of $$ to get out of it.
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(07-24-2022 02:11 PM)dcg141 Wrote:  Uncertainty is killing college sports. Its casting a pall that now has everyone frozen. The Big 12 and Pac are waiting on the Big 10 to move again. The ACC is looking around at each other wondering who leaves first. At some point the powers that be need to figure out what they are going to do and get it over with. Take the schools your going to take and tell everyone its over. Dragging this on for more years in the end is not going to be in their best interest. Right now it has everyone paralyzed except for 32 schools. 131 FBS schools and only 32 know their future. 33 if you count ND and if they get enough money from NBC they know what they are doing.

Unfortunately the uncertainty doesn't extend to the the B1G & SEC schools (32 schools at last count) & they are the focus of the media. Everyone else is 2nd, 3rd fiddle & their feelings of uncertainty just don't matter to the B1G, SEC & the media.
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I think CF will be fine.

Seems relative to all other forms of entertainment, CF is doing better than most.

Entrenched entertainment options are losing market share as the offerings and options increase. I dunno but i'd bet video gaming, and inane sports like hot dog eating, corn hole and lacrosse can probably claim double digit viewer ship and participation increases. Meanwhile our population growth even with immigration is less than 2% and going down.

I dun see anything to worry about.
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There is no uncertainty for the same teams that have been dominant for the last 50 years with a few notable exceptions
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(07-25-2022 12:49 AM)CRM114 Wrote:  Seems like the only constant in college sports has been change. Conference realignment has been a fairly continuous process for the past 30 years.

Most of the current anxiety comes from the fear that a consolidation of the top programs into 2 megaconferences will suck all the oxygen out of the rest of college sports. But to a great extent, this consolidation has been happening for the past 30 years. During that time we've gone from a bunch of mostly equal 8- to 10-team conferences to a "BCS 6" to a "Power 5" and now likely a "Power 2". Yet somehow, there has been more than enough of an audience to sustain plenty of programs outside of the elite. The number of programs in FBS football keeps growing despite the escalating media revenues, athletic budgets, coaches salaries and facilities demands of the sport. 12 schools have joined FBS just in the past decade, half of which were not even playing football in 2000.

So yes, the rich will get richer and the gap between the haves and the have-nots will widen. But this doesn't mean that the have-nots just die off. If we end up with 32 to 48 Tier 1 programs, that still leaves 83 to 99 schools who want to play high-level college football. Maybe they all get to play for one or two playoff spots, or maybe they end up in their own division playing for a different championship. Regardless, that's still a lot of schools with millions of alumni and fans who won't just dump their favorite team and fall in behind some "Power 2" school. If the SEC and Big 10 really did break away and form their own division, playing in a 99-team division in which we are one of the top 20-25 programs from a competitive position, and have a realistic chance to win the whole thing doesn't sound all that bad.
The issue might be that alumni and fans of the have nots just lose interest in college sports altogether. Even with the haves wo some kind of parity the ones at the bottom of the the 2 big conferences will struggle to get beyond being cannon fodder. Just watch, once the 2 conferences settle on members then uneven distribution will come next.
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(07-25-2022 01:08 PM)dcg141 Wrote:  
(07-25-2022 12:49 AM)CRM114 Wrote:  Seems like the only constant in college sports has been change. Conference realignment has been a fairly continuous process for the past 30 years.

Most of the current anxiety comes from the fear that a consolidation of the top programs into 2 megaconferences will suck all the oxygen out of the rest of college sports. But to a great extent, this consolidation has been happening for the past 30 years. During that time we've gone from a bunch of mostly equal 8- to 10-team conferences to a "BCS 6" to a "Power 5" and now likely a "Power 2". Yet somehow, there has been more than enough of an audience to sustain plenty of programs outside of the elite. The number of programs in FBS football keeps growing despite the escalating media revenues, athletic budgets, coaches salaries and facilities demands of the sport. 12 schools have joined FBS just in the past decade, half of which were not even playing football in 2000.

So yes, the rich will get richer and the gap between the haves and the have-nots will widen. But this doesn't mean that the have-nots just die off. If we end up with 32 to 48 Tier 1 programs, that still leaves 83 to 99 schools who want to play high-level college football. Maybe they all get to play for one or two playoff spots, or maybe they end up in their own division playing for a different championship. Regardless, that's still a lot of schools with millions of alumni and fans who won't just dump their favorite team and fall in behind some "Power 2" school. If the SEC and Big 10 really did break away and form their own division, playing in a 99-team division in which we are one of the top 20-25 programs from a competitive position, and have a realistic chance to win the whole thing doesn't sound all that bad.
The issue might be that alumni and fans of the have nots just lose interest in college sports altogether. Even with the haves wo some kind of parity the ones at the bottom of the the 2 big conferences will struggle to get beyond being cannon fodder. Just watch, once the 2 conferences setting on members then uneven distribution will come next.

If it turns out that our only reasonably possible chance to move up is the ACC - '36 (which I think is correct but only about 5-10%), I believe you may be correct, especially if we don't dominate the nAAC. And then we will have lost an entire generation of long time Tiger fans to death & disinterest. Further if the admin lacks the courage to find a new FB HC if we win less than 8 games, we are likely on a downward spiral to permanent mediocrity. That said, I like RS but especially in this environment we not only have to win but WIN BIG consistently to get any attention & remain relevant.
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(07-24-2022 02:11 PM)dcg141 Wrote:  Uncertainty is killing college sports. Its casting a pall that now has everyone frozen. The Big 12 and Pac are waiting on the Big 10 to move again. The ACC is looking around at each other wondering who leaves first. At some point the powers that be need to figure out what they are going to do and get it over with. Take the schools your going to take and tell everyone its over. Dragging this on for more years in the end is not going to be in their best interest. Right now it has everyone paralyzed except for 32 schools. 131 FBS schools and only 32 know their future. 33 if you count ND and if they get enough money from NBC they know what they are doing.

Greed is a basic human emotion ............ and not a good one.

The SEC & B1G represent Gordon Gekko

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(07-25-2022 07:02 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-24-2022 02:11 PM)dcg141 Wrote:  Uncertainty is killing college sports. Its casting a pall that now has everyone frozen. The Big 12 and Pac are waiting on the Big 10 to move again. The ACC is looking around at each other wondering who leaves first. At some point the powers that be need to figure out what they are going to do and get it over with. Take the schools your going to take and tell everyone its over. Dragging this on for more years in the end is not going to be in their best interest. Right now it has everyone paralyzed except for 32 schools. 131 FBS schools and only 32 know their future. 33 if you count ND and if they get enough money from NBC they know what they are doing.

Unfortunately the uncertainty doesn't extend to the the B1G & SEC schools (32 schools at last count) & they are the focus of the media. Everyone else is 2nd, 3rd fiddle & their feelings of uncertainty just don't matter to the B1G, SEC & the media.

Don't be fooled - there is uncertainty within the bottom halves of the SEC and the B1G too.

Could the leagues become one "super division" of about 32 powerhouse schools who break fb apart from the NCAA and become a true NFL minor league? Adding ND, FSU, Miami, Oregon, etc. - and shedding Miss St, Vandy, Iowa, Rutgers, etc.?
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(07-25-2022 07:02 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-24-2022 02:11 PM)dcg141 Wrote:  Uncertainty is killing college sports. Its casting a pall that now has everyone frozen. The Big 12 and Pac are waiting on the Big 10 to move again. The ACC is looking around at each other wondering who leaves first. At some point the powers that be need to figure out what they are going to do and get it over with. Take the schools your going to take and tell everyone its over. Dragging this on for more years in the end is not going to be in their best interest. Right now it has everyone paralyzed except for 32 schools. 131 FBS schools and only 32 know their future. 33 if you count ND and if they get enough money from NBC they know what they are doing.

Unfortunately the uncertainty doesn't extend to the the B1G & SEC schools (32 schools at last count) & they are the focus of the media. Everyone else is 2nd, 3rd fiddle & their feelings of uncertainty just don't matter to the B1G, SEC & the media.

Don't be fooled - there is uncertainty within the bottom halves of the SEC and the B1G too.

Could the leagues become one "super division" of about 32 powerhouse schools who break fb apart from the NCAA and become a true NFL minor league? Adding ND, FSU, Miami, Oregon, etc. - and shedding Miss St, Vandy, Iowa, Rutgers, etc.?

Without parity they will struggle but the top needs bottom feeders. At some point when they have everyone over a barrel the demand for unequal distribution of money will happen.
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