Now that this season's realignment earthquake is over and the aftershocks appear to be limited to talking and posturing, I wanted to revisit the long-term impact of NIL. Lane Kiffin, always good for a quote, is on the record as saying that NIL money is the #1 thing in recruiting.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1003...e-decision

If that is the case (he has no reason to lie) and schools can't pay players directly, then why should the name Alabama carry more weight than Cal Berkeley in football. Berkeley has oodles more millionaires and billionaires than Bama and all you need is a few of them to care about football enough to have a few choice Golden Bears be on advertising spots for their companies, and what do ya know, Cal is a perennial top 10 team.

I bring this up because the game has changed, and traditional characteristics of a successful program don't hold the weight they used to. If you have a poor kid that is a 5 star athlete, what does he care about the brand new sparkling rock climbing wall or pimped out weight room when SMU or UNLV or Rutgers or Houston is offering a million dollars per year?

Im my preliminary analysis passion of the fans AND the preponderance of wealthy alumni may be some of the more important metrics to consider because as Lane Kiffin said "NIL made cheating legal".

Berkeley has more billionaires, but Alabama has more millionaires willing to spend money to make college football happen and to win.

(08-07-2022 06:59 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  Berkeley has more billionaires, but Alabama has more millionaires willing to spend money to make college football happen and to win.

I agree, but it only takes 1 to make a difference.
T. Boone Pickens for Okie State
Phil Knight for Oregon
Kevin Plank is shilling for Maryland though they are not close and have had limited success.

My point is most succinctly framed in the program of Texas A&M. They've been a solid program for forever but they were never elite, especially in recruiting... then NIL hit and they have the best class that has ever been assembled. What can I say, the price of oil and gas are high, and there's a willingness to spend a few dollars.

Of course you need a good coach, but that's the arguement of Xs and Os vs Jimmy's and Joe's. Jimmy and Joe will win a few on talent alone. Getting back to the point, this paradigm is not limited to Texas A&M. Miami is on the come up using similar tactics. I forsee USC throwing money at recruits pretty soon and for some reason I like SMU in this environment. We will see.

It’s all out in the open now. Under the old system the NCAA would look the other way and let blue bloods and media darlings get away with paying the top players while punishing the rest of us for doing the same thing to keep us in our place

Now we can plop the same or bigger money bag on a recruits table as UT can but the pro UT state media can’t run to the NCAA to turn us in while ignoring the Austin coaches doing the exact same thing

I’m glad the ones who benefitted from the old under the table system are scared of this new reality

100 % believe that NIL will have far greater consequences than realignment overall!

The ones doing it legally/by the rules now are figuring out the nuances of how to best leverage as all the rules have changed the approach.

Dropping bags is now evolving to 21st century, and those that "weren't playing it that way" will add a whole new dynamic to how it's played. I'll never forget how my mind was blown when SMU players talked of having to take pay cuts to go to NFL.

(08-07-2022 06:26 PM)Big Ron Buckeye Wrote:  Now that this season's realignment earthquake is over and the aftershocks appear to be limited to talking and posturing, I wanted to revisit the long-term impact of NIL. Lane Kiffin, always good for a quote, is on the record as saying that NIL money is the #1 thing in recruiting.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1003...e-decision

If that is the case (he has no reason to lie) and schools can't pay players directly, then why should the name Alabama carry more weight than Cal Berkeley in football. Berkeley has oodles more millionaires and billionaires than Bama and all you need is a few of them to care about football enough to have a few choice Golden Bears be on advertising spots for their companies, and what do ya know, Cal is a perennial top 10 team.

I bring this up because the game has changed, and traditional characteristics of a successful program don't hold the weight they used to. If you have a poor kid that is a 5 star athlete, what does he care about the brand new sparkling rock climbing wall or pimped out weight room when SMU or UNLV or Rutgers or Houston is offering a million dollars per year?

Im my preliminary analysis passion of the fans AND the preponderance of wealthy alumni may be some of the more important metrics to consider because as Lane Kiffin said "NIL made cheating legal".

I'm not a 'Bama fan, but 'Bama has been known to churn out quite a few NFL superstars over the years. I don't doubt the fact that Saban and other 'Bama coaches, including the great Paul "Bear " Bryant have had a lot of dirty deals over the years. Got news for you guys, TAMU was known for cheating in the past. So was the University of Texas and the University of North Carolina @ Chapel Hill too!!

But this is my point:

NFL teams & coaches are familiar with Saban. The Cal Golden Bears??? The Rams drafted the quarterback they had before Matthew Stafford (a former Georgia Dawg, BTW) from Cal-Berkeley!!! Want to know what they wound up doing with him??? Sending him east to Detroit in a trade for Matthew Stafford(the former Georgia Dawg)!!!!! That says volumes right there.

(08-07-2022 09:31 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(08-07-2022 06:26 PM)Big Ron Buckeye Wrote:  Now that this season's realignment earthquake is over and the aftershocks appear to be limited to talking and posturing, I wanted to revisit the long-term impact of NIL. Lane Kiffin, always good for a quote, is on the record as saying that NIL money is the #1 thing in recruiting.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1003...e-decision

If that is the case (he has no reason to lie) and schools can't pay players directly, then why should the name Alabama carry more weight than Cal Berkeley in football. Berkeley has oodles more millionaires and billionaires than Bama and all you need is a few of them to care about football enough to have a few choice Golden Bears be on advertising spots for their companies, and what do ya know, Cal is a perennial top 10 team.

I bring this up because the game has changed, and traditional characteristics of a successful program don't hold the weight they used to. If you have a poor kid that is a 5 star athlete, what does he care about the brand new sparkling rock climbing wall or pimped out weight room when SMU or UNLV or Rutgers or Houston is offering a million dollars per year?

Im my preliminary analysis passion of the fans AND the preponderance of wealthy alumni may be some of the more important metrics to consider because as Lane Kiffin said "NIL made cheating legal".

I'm not a 'Bama fan, but 'Bama has been known to churn out quite a few NFL superstars over the years. I don't doubt the fact that Saban and other 'Bama coaches, including the great Paul "Bear " Bryant have had a lot of dirty deals over the years. Got news for you guys, TAMU was known for cheating in the past. So was the University of Texas and the University of North Carolina @ Chapel Hill too!!

But this is my point:

NFL teams & coaches are familiar with Saban. The Cal Golden Bears??? The Rams drafted the quarterback they had before Matthew Stafford (a former Georgia Dawg, BTW) from Cal-Berkeley!!! Want to know what they wound up doing with him??? Sending him east to Detroit in a trade for Matthew Stafford(the former Georgia Dawg)!!!!! That says volumes right there.

Just sayin'

Meh, NIL has not/will not narrow the small list of schools that compete for "NCs" If anything, it can only widen the list.

(08-08-2022 03:45 AM)chester Wrote:  Meh, NIL has not/will not narrow the small list of schools that compete for "NCs" If anything, it can only widen the list.

agree