(07-22-2022 02:51 AM)Keeper Wrote:  Damn the Negative Nellies I will put it out there anyway.

A Conference Champions Tournament. This tournament invites only the conference champions. No matter if the conference has 8 or 18 members. Conference champions and only conference champions (No independents) can participate. If it survived and eventually became as popular as the basketball tournament maybe some of the mega conferences would break up give more of their members a shot at the national title. And perhaps college football could reclaim some semblance of rationality.

Unorthodox is being kind. The idea is beyond dumb.

IN
1 Alabama
2 Michigan
4 Cincinnati
7 Baylor
11 Utah
12 Pitt
23 Louisiana
UR UTSA
UR Northern Illinois
UR Utah State

OUT
3 Georgia
5 Notre Dame (permanently)
6 Ohio State
8 Ole Piss
9 Oklahoma State
10 Michigan State
12 BYU (permanently)
14 Oregon
15 Iowa
16 Oklahoma
17 Wake Forest
18 NC State
19 Clemson
20 Houston
21 Arkansas
22 Kentucky
24 San Diego State
25 TAM

18 of the top 25 don't "deserve" to be in according to you and Karl

The thing the POWER 5/SEC BOOTLICKERS like the PRETENDER dont understand or just don't care -----is the rankings are skewed/biased against the little guys like the LIL ole MEMPHIS' and Miami Ohio' of the world . They view the world as pure. They can't comprehend that agendas do exist . The OP proposed a model . The PRETENDER being a ( SEC/POWER 5 bootlicking anti little guy -everybody gets a trophy proponent)----got pooched mouth because some of the good ole boy over ranked network ( THAT DIDN'T MEET THE OP'S model) didnt make the playoffs -------so the so-called power 5/SEC bootlickers want to CHANGE THE OP'S RULES to pacify the whiners ---------------------------------reminds me of a couple years ago when PRESEASON the BIG10 stated to qualify for BIG10 CHAMPIONSHIP that the big10 teams had to play a minimum amount of games ----------Ohio St didn't qualify ---they threw a fit/whined---the big10 then CHANGED THEIR OWN RULES--to satisfy the LIL DARLINGS ------thus SCREWING their other conference team --Minn ?--I think

(07-23-2022 01:33 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  The thing the POWER 5/SEC BOOTLICKERS like the PRETENDER dont understand or just don't care -----is the rankings are skewed/biased against the little guys like the LIL ole MEMPHIS' and Miami Ohio' of the world . They view the world as pure. They can't comprehend that agendas do exist . The OP proposed a model . The PRETENDER being a ( SEC/POWER 5 bootlicking anti little guy -everybody gets a trophy proponent)----got pooched mouth because some of the good ole boy over ranked network ( THAT DIDN'T MEET THE OP'S model) didnt make the playoffs -------so the so-called power 5/SEC bootlickers want to CHANGE THE OP'S RULES to pacify the whiners ---------------------------------reminds me of a couple years ago when PRESEASON the BIG10 stated to qualify for BIG10 CHAMPIONSHIP that the big10 teams had to play a minimum amount of games ----------Ohio St didn't qualify ---they threw a fit/whined---the big10 then CHANGED THEIR OWN RULES--to satisfy the LIL DARLINGS ------thus SCREWING their other conference team --Minn ?--I think

JSW I can no longer, in good conscience keep you on the ignore list. Actually you have been off for some time now.

I’m trying to think of any playoff system that only has conference/division winners and no wildcard or at-large teams. Not thinking of one. You’ve got to allow for the possibility that more than one of the best teams are in the same conference.

I think the only way you get an auto bid for every FBS conference is a 16-team playoff which would allow for 6 at-large. Maybe if it consolidates into 8 conferences then you could have a 12-team playoff with 4 at-large. But I have my doubts whether the networks want to waste any airtime on Alabama stomping Kent State in a first round game or that the power programs want to trot their players out for an extra injury opportunity.

(07-23-2022 08:48 PM)Keeper Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 01:33 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  The thing the POWER 5/SEC BOOTLICKERS like the PRETENDER dont understand or just don't care -----is the rankings are skewed/biased against the little guys like the LIL ole MEMPHIS' and Miami Ohio' of the world . They view the world as pure. They can't comprehend that agendas do exist . The OP proposed a model . The PRETENDER being a ( SEC/POWER 5 bootlicking anti little guy -everybody gets a trophy proponent)----got pooched mouth because some of the good ole boy over ranked network ( THAT DIDN'T MEET THE OP'S model) didnt make the playoffs -------so the so-called power 5/SEC bootlickers want to CHANGE THE OP'S RULES to pacify the whiners ---------------------------------reminds me of a couple years ago when PRESEASON the BIG10 stated to qualify for BIG10 CHAMPIONSHIP that the big10 teams had to play a minimum amount of games ----------Ohio St didn't qualify ---they threw a fit/whined---the big10 then CHANGED THEIR OWN RULES--to satisfy the LIL DARLINGS ------thus SCREWING their other conference team --Minn ?--I think

JSW I can no longer, in good conscience keep you on the ignore list. Actually you have been off for some time now.

WOO HOO--however I still remain in your infamous top 3--WOO HOO again--LOL

(07-23-2022 01:33 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  The thing the POWER 5/SEC BOOTLICKERS like the PRETENDER dont understand or just don't care -----is the rankings are skewed/biased against the little guys like the LIL ole MEMPHIS' and Miami Ohio' of the world . They view the world as pure. They can't comprehend that agendas do exist . The OP proposed a model . The PRETENDER being a ( SEC/POWER 5 bootlicking anti little guy -everybody gets a trophy proponent)----got pooched mouth because some of the good ole boy over ranked network ( THAT DIDN'T MEET THE OP'S model) didnt make the playoffs -------so the so-called power 5/SEC bootlickers want to CHANGE THE OP'S RULES to pacify the whiners ---------------------------------reminds me of a couple years ago when PRESEASON the BIG10 stated to qualify for BIG10 CHAMPIONSHIP that the big10 teams had to play a minimum amount of games ----------Ohio St didn't qualify ---they threw a fit/whined---the big10 then CHANGED THEIR OWN RULES--to satisfy the LIL DARLINGS ------thus SCREWING their other conference team --Minn ?--I think

We get it. 18 out of the top 25 OUT of the playoff is what the fans want. The fans are BEGGING for that UTSA - Utah State playoff matchup, while Georgia plays Ohio State in the New Orleans Bowl. The fans are DEMANDING it. More Utah State, more Northern Illinois. If Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia or anyone else loses a game, they are OUT. Let 6 loss MAC and Sunbelt teams duke it out.

Inclusion, socialism, woke...Karl and the ponytail.

(07-23-2022 08:48 PM)Keeper Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 01:33 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  The thing the POWER 5/SEC BOOTLICKERS like the PRETENDER dont understand or just don't care -----is the rankings are skewed/biased against the little guys like the LIL ole MEMPHIS' and Miami Ohio' of the world . They view the world as pure. They can't comprehend that agendas do exist . The OP proposed a model . The PRETENDER being a ( SEC/POWER 5 bootlicking anti little guy -everybody gets a trophy proponent)----got pooched mouth because some of the good ole boy over ranked network ( THAT DIDN'T MEET THE OP'S model) didnt make the playoffs -------so the so-called power 5/SEC bootlickers want to CHANGE THE OP'S RULES to pacify the whiners ---------------------------------reminds me of a couple years ago when PRESEASON the BIG10 stated to qualify for BIG10 CHAMPIONSHIP that the big10 teams had to play a minimum amount of games ----------Ohio St didn't qualify ---they threw a fit/whined---the big10 then CHANGED THEIR OWN RULES--to satisfy the LIL DARLINGS ------thus SCREWING their other conference team --Minn ?--I think

JSW I can no longer, in good conscience keep you on the ignore list. Actually you have been off for some time now.

You are brothers in every sense of the word.

(07-23-2022 09:17 PM)CRM114 Wrote:  I’m trying to think of any playoff system that only has conference/division winners and no wildcard or at-large teams. Not thinking of one. You’ve got to allow for the possibility that more than one of the best teams are in the same conference.

I think the only way you get an auto bid for every FBS conference is a 16-team playoff which would allow for 6 at-large. Maybe if it consolidates into 8 conferences then you could have a 12-team playoff with 4 at-large. But I have my doubts whether the networks want to waste any airtime on Alabama stomping Kent State in a first round game or that the power programs want to trot their players out for an extra injury opportunity.

Well by all means --if the power 5 little darlings don't want to trot out their players in a NATIONAL PLAYOFF SYSTEM---then they can opt out --reject the invitation --------------------------or do you think they should dictate the rules and only play the teams that they deem worthy of their appearance --------------------and what about regular season buy games against perceived inferior teams --they play those games -----however they might feel a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP FIRST ROUND game against a perceived inferior team is beneath them ----the heck with them and their superiority complex

(07-23-2022 10:05 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 09:17 PM)CRM114 Wrote:  I’m trying to think of any playoff system that only has conference/division winners and no wildcard or at-large teams. Not thinking of one. You’ve got to allow for the possibility that more than one of the best teams are in the same conference.

I think the only way you get an auto bid for every FBS conference is a 16-team playoff which would allow for 6 at-large. Maybe if it consolidates into 8 conferences then you could have a 12-team playoff with 4 at-large. But I have my doubts whether the networks want to waste any airtime on Alabama stomping Kent State in a first round game or that the power programs want to trot their players out for an extra injury opportunity.

Well by all means --if the power 5 little darlings don't want to trot out their players in a NATIONAL PLAYOFF SYSTEM---then they can opt out --reject the invitation --------------------------or do you think they should dictate the rules and only play the teams that they deem worthy of their appearance --------------------and what about regular season buy games against perceived inferior teams --they play those games -----however they might feel a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP FIRST ROUND game against a perceived inferior team is beneath them ----the heck with them and their superiority complex

Quote:Well by all means --if the power 5 little darlings don't want to trot out their players in a NATIONAL PLAYOFF SYSTEM---then they can opt out --reject the invitation

Karl and Ponytail are now apparently NCAA football power brokers, who have decision making powers over the actual schools, the fans that watch the games, and anyone with an IQ over 40.

Karl & Ponytail
"Georgia, you are not invited. UTSA Vs. Northern Illinois, take it or leave it."

(07-23-2022 10:23 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 10:05 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 09:17 PM)CRM114 Wrote:  I’m trying to think of any playoff system that only has conference/division winners and no wildcard or at-large teams. Not thinking of one. You’ve got to allow for the possibility that more than one of the best teams are in the same conference.

I think the only way you get an auto bid for every FBS conference is a 16-team playoff which would allow for 6 at-large. Maybe if it consolidates into 8 conferences then you could have a 12-team playoff with 4 at-large. But I have my doubts whether the networks want to waste any airtime on Alabama stomping Kent State in a first round game or that the power programs want to trot their players out for an extra injury opportunity.

Well by all means --if the power 5 little darlings don't want to trot out their players in a NATIONAL PLAYOFF SYSTEM---then they can opt out --reject the invitation --------------------------or do you think they should dictate the rules and only play the teams that they deem worthy of their appearance --------------------and what about regular season buy games against perceived inferior teams --they play those games -----however they might feel a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP FIRST ROUND game against a perceived inferior team is beneath them ----the heck with them and their superiority complex

Quote:Well by all means --if the power 5 little darlings don't want to trot out their players in a NATIONAL PLAYOFF SYSTEM---then they can opt out --reject the invitation

Karl and Ponytail are now apparently NCAA football power brokers, who have decision making powers over the actual schools, the fans that watch the games, and anyone with an IQ over 40.

Karl & Ponytail
"Georgia, you are not invited. UTSA Vs. Northern Illinois, take it or leave it."

NCAA POWER BROKERS ?-DECISION MAKING POWERS ?- Actually I considered your model/decision making powers superior ---the model that each and every conference in the entire world SEC/BIG10/ACC/BIG12/PAC10/PAC12/NBA/MLB/NFL/MSL/ABA/WFL/USFL/ etc etc etc---had MEMPHIS #2 on EVERYBODYS list only behind Cincinnati----and the BIG12 DECISION MAKERS would 100% not choose Houston.

PRETENDER--"MEMPHIS in--Houston out"
Big12 to the PRETENDER: Houston in--MEMPHIS out

You NEVER cease to amaze the entire board with your astonishing/incredible insight/acumen and decision making /the ability to evaluate all facts and come to an accurate prediction .

(07-23-2022 11:10 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 10:23 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 10:05 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 09:17 PM)CRM114 Wrote:  I’m trying to think of any playoff system that only has conference/division winners and no wildcard or at-large teams. Not thinking of one. You’ve got to allow for the possibility that more than one of the best teams are in the same conference.

I think the only way you get an auto bid for every FBS conference is a 16-team playoff which would allow for 6 at-large. Maybe if it consolidates into 8 conferences then you could have a 12-team playoff with 4 at-large. But I have my doubts whether the networks want to waste any airtime on Alabama stomping Kent State in a first round game or that the power programs want to trot their players out for an extra injury opportunity.

Well by all means --if the power 5 little darlings don't want to trot out their players in a NATIONAL PLAYOFF SYSTEM---then they can opt out --reject the invitation --------------------------or do you think they should dictate the rules and only play the teams that they deem worthy of their appearance --------------------and what about regular season buy games against perceived inferior teams --they play those games -----however they might feel a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP FIRST ROUND game against a perceived inferior team is beneath them ----the heck with them and their superiority complex

Quote:Well by all means --if the power 5 little darlings don't want to trot out their players in a NATIONAL PLAYOFF SYSTEM---then they can opt out --reject the invitation

Karl and Ponytail are now apparently NCAA football power brokers, who have decision making powers over the actual schools, the fans that watch the games, and anyone with an IQ over 40.

Karl & Ponytail
"Georgia, you are not invited. UTSA Vs. Northern Illinois, take it or leave it."

NCAA POWER BROKERS ?-DECISION MAKING POWERS ?- Actually I considered your model/decision making powers superior ---the model that each and every conference in the entire world SEC/BIG10/ACC/BIG12/PAC10/PAC12/NBA/MLB/NFL/MSL/ABA/WFL/USFL/ etc etc etc---had MEMPHIS #2 on EVERYBODYS list only behind Cincinnati----and the BIG12 DECISION MAKERS would 100% not choose Houston.

PRETENDER--"MEMPHIS in--Houston out"
Big12 to the PRETENDER: Houston in--MEMPHIS out

You NEVER cease to amaze the entire board with your astonishing/incredible insight/acumen and decision making /the ability to evaluate all facts and come to an accurate prediction .

Rudd was told we were in...twice, backed up by others who were told the same thing.

You want Northern Illinois and UTSA in, and 18 of the top 25 out. You think that the MAC, CUSA, and Sunbelt should have the same number of playoff teams as the Big Ten, $EC, Big 12, and ACC.

That is your weirdo idea of who is deserving.

Pure trophy culture socialism Karl.

(07-24-2022 03:14 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 11:10 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 10:23 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 10:05 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 09:17 PM)CRM114 Wrote:  I’m trying to think of any playoff system that only has conference/division winners and no wildcard or at-large teams. Not thinking of one. You’ve got to allow for the possibility that more than one of the best teams are in the same conference.

I think the only way you get an auto bid for every FBS conference is a 16-team playoff which would allow for 6 at-large. Maybe if it consolidates into 8 conferences then you could have a 12-team playoff with 4 at-large. But I have my doubts whether the networks want to waste any airtime on Alabama stomping Kent State in a first round game or that the power programs want to trot their players out for an extra injury opportunity.

Well by all means --if the power 5 little darlings don't want to trot out their players in a NATIONAL PLAYOFF SYSTEM---then they can opt out --reject the invitation --------------------------or do you think they should dictate the rules and only play the teams that they deem worthy of their appearance --------------------and what about regular season buy games against perceived inferior teams --they play those games -----however they might feel a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP FIRST ROUND game against a perceived inferior team is beneath them ----the heck with them and their superiority complex

Quote:Well by all means --if the power 5 little darlings don't want to trot out their players in a NATIONAL PLAYOFF SYSTEM---then they can opt out --reject the invitation

Karl and Ponytail are now apparently NCAA football power brokers, who have decision making powers over the actual schools, the fans that watch the games, and anyone with an IQ over 40.

Karl & Ponytail
"Georgia, you are not invited. UTSA Vs. Northern Illinois, take it or leave it."

NCAA POWER BROKERS ?-DECISION MAKING POWERS ?- Actually I considered your model/decision making powers superior ---the model that each and every conference in the entire world SEC/BIG10/ACC/BIG12/PAC10/PAC12/NBA/MLB/NFL/MSL/ABA/WFL/USFL/ etc etc etc---had MEMPHIS #2 on EVERYBODYS list only behind Cincinnati----and the BIG12 DECISION MAKERS would 100% not choose Houston.

PRETENDER--"MEMPHIS in--Houston out"
Big12 to the PRETENDER: Houston in--MEMPHIS out

You NEVER cease to amaze the entire board with your astonishing/incredible insight/acumen and decision making /the ability to evaluate all facts and come to an accurate prediction .

Rudd was told we were in...twice, backed up by others who were told the same thing.

You want Northern Illinois and UTSA in, and 18 of the top 25 out. You think that the MAC, CUSA, and Sunbelt should have the same number of playoff teams as the Big Ten, $EC, Big 12, and ACC.

That is your weirdo idea of who is deserving.

Pure trophy culture socialism Karl.

Obviously you and Rudd need better sources HUH

(07-23-2022 09:17 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 08:48 PM)Keeper Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 01:33 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  The thing the POWER 5/SEC BOOTLICKERS like the PRETENDER dont understand or just don't care -----is the rankings are skewed/biased against the little guys like the LIL ole MEMPHIS' and Miami Ohio' of the world . They view the world as pure. They can't comprehend that agendas do exist . The OP proposed a model . The PRETENDER being a ( SEC/POWER 5 bootlicking anti little guy -everybody gets a trophy proponent)----got pooched mouth because some of the good ole boy over ranked network ( THAT DIDN'T MEET THE OP'S model) didnt make the playoffs -------so the so-called power 5/SEC bootlickers want to CHANGE THE OP'S RULES to pacify the whiners ---------------------------------reminds me of a couple years ago when PRESEASON the BIG10 stated to qualify for BIG10 CHAMPIONSHIP that the big10 teams had to play a minimum amount of games ----------Ohio St didn't qualify ---they threw a fit/whined---the big10 then CHANGED THEIR OWN RULES--to satisfy the LIL DARLINGS ------thus SCREWING their other conference team --Minn ?--I think

JSW I can no longer, in good conscience keep you on the ignore list. Actually you have been off for some time now.

WOO HOO--however I still remain in your infamous top 3--WOO HOO again--LOL

Oops that seems to have been an error on my part. That list should only include the irrational. Occasional snarkiness doesn't warrant that or most of us would be on list. Even those who believe George Washington's hair style is unworthy of a real man.

Save Memphis or save college football?

(07-25-2022 09:59 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  Save Memphis or save college football?

The whole shebang!

(07-23-2022 09:49 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 08:48 PM)Keeper Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 01:33 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  The thing the POWER 5/SEC BOOTLICKERS like the PRETENDER dont understand or just don't care -----is the rankings are skewed/biased against the little guys like the LIL ole MEMPHIS' and Miami Ohio' of the world . They view the world as pure. They can't comprehend that agendas do exist . The OP proposed a model . The PRETENDER being a ( SEC/POWER 5 bootlicking anti little guy -everybody gets a trophy proponent)----got pooched mouth because some of the good ole boy over ranked network ( THAT DIDN'T MEET THE OP'S model) didnt make the playoffs -------so the so-called power 5/SEC bootlickers want to CHANGE THE OP'S RULES to pacify the whiners ---------------------------------reminds me of a couple years ago when PRESEASON the BIG10 stated to qualify for BIG10 CHAMPIONSHIP that the big10 teams had to play a minimum amount of games ----------Ohio St didn't qualify ---they threw a fit/whined---the big10 then CHANGED THEIR OWN RULES--to satisfy the LIL DARLINGS ------thus SCREWING their other conference team --Minn ?--I think

JSW I can no longer, in good conscience keep you on the ignore list. Actually you have been off for some time now.

You are brothers in every sense of the word.

LOL

Just to point it out - the OP's model gets us 3 of the top 4 teams in the country into the playoff. Only team screwed is Georgia, which would technically be replaced by Baylor. Otherwise, top four of the current playoff and top four of the OP's system are pretty close.

(07-25-2022 05:07 PM)gotohellolemiss Wrote:  Just to point it out - the OP's model gets us 3 of the top 4 teams in the country into the playoff. Only team screwed is Georgia, which would technically be replaced by Baylor. Otherwise, top four of the current playoff and top four of the OP's system are pretty close.

The only team screwed? 18 of the top 25 would be out. They were #1 in the country and lost 1 game.

(07-25-2022 08:15 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-25-2022 05:07 PM)gotohellolemiss Wrote:  Just to point it out - the OP's model gets us 3 of the top 4 teams in the country into the playoff. Only team screwed is Georgia, which would technically be replaced by Baylor. Otherwise, top four of the current playoff and top four of the OP's system are pretty close.

The only team screwed? 18 of the top 25 would be out. They were #1 in the country and lost 1 game.

Yes, but the point is a crazy idea on our message board and the actual system we are stuck with both came up with similar results. There was a real proposal for a 12 team playoff that was stupidly and stubbornly rejected by the powers that be. Now, it looks like what may replace our current stupid system could involve 2 superconferences and only a handful of teams with actual access to the playoff. If that is choice A, I would rather choose the OP's crazy option B

(07-25-2022 09:21 PM)gotohellolemiss Wrote:  

(07-25-2022 08:15 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-25-2022 05:07 PM)gotohellolemiss Wrote:  Just to point it out - the OP's model gets us 3 of the top 4 teams in the country into the playoff. Only team screwed is Georgia, which would technically be replaced by Baylor. Otherwise, top four of the current playoff and top four of the OP's system are pretty close.

The only team screwed? 18 of the top 25 would be out. They were #1 in the country and lost 1 game.

Yes, but the point is a crazy idea on our message board and the actual system we are stuck with both came up with similar results. There was a real proposal for a 12 team playoff that was stupidly and stubbornly rejected by the powers that be. Now, it looks like what may replace our current stupid system could involve 2 superconferences and only a handful of teams with actual access to the playoff. If that is choice A, I would rather choose the OP's crazy option B

99% of the fans wouldn't. None of the schools wouldn't allow it.