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RE: So where are we in 10 years
Speaking only for myself, six feet under.
07-22-2022 02:58 AM
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RE: So where are we in 10 years
(07-21-2022 06:14 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-21-2022 12:54 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(07-21-2022 11:36 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  We'll be doing the same things we have been doing for the last 60 yrs & expecting different results - complaining about why we are continually left behind while other who weren't even our peers passed us by, by having a real vision of those in charge, finding ways to actually invest directly in the university (UL, UCF, Cinn, etc) which grows the supporting alum base.

And you and the other usual suspects will be on here complaining with no clue about what’s really going on

Well then, enlighten us......

I’m done trying to explain to all you that think it’s about throwing money at it when the environment is the problem. Maybe one day after the university has wasted enough money you will get it
07-22-2022 09:38 AM
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RE: So where are we in 10 years
(07-22-2022 09:38 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(07-21-2022 06:14 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-21-2022 12:54 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(07-21-2022 11:36 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  We'll be doing the same things we have been doing for the last 60 yrs & expecting different results - complaining about why we are continually left behind while other who weren't even our peers passed us by, by having a real vision of those in charge, finding ways to actually invest directly in the university (UL, UCF, Cinn, etc) which grows the supporting alum base.

And you and the other usual suspects will be on here complaining with no clue about what’s really going on

Well then, enlighten us......

I’m done trying to explain to all you that think it’s about throwing money at it when the environment is the problem. Maybe one day after the university has wasted enough money you will get it

I missed all of that. Which aspect of the environment do you think is holding us back (and can’t be changed/improved on)?
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RE: So where are we in 10 years
(07-22-2022 12:57 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 09:38 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(07-21-2022 06:14 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-21-2022 12:54 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(07-21-2022 11:36 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  We'll be doing the same things we have been doing for the last 60 yrs & expecting different results - complaining about why we are continually left behind while other who weren't even our peers passed us by, by having a real vision of those in charge, finding ways to actually invest directly in the university (UL, UCF, Cinn, etc) which grows the supporting alum base.

And you and the other usual suspects will be on here complaining with no clue about what’s really going on

Well then, enlighten us......

I’m done trying to explain to all you that think it’s about throwing money at it when the environment is the problem. Maybe one day after the university has wasted enough money you will get it

I missed all of that. Which aspect of the environment do you think is holding us back (and can’t be changed/improved on)?

LBMS offers a limited "experience" compared to similar universities with an OCS.
07-22-2022 02:19 PM
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RE: So where are we in 10 years
All it would take for the Tigers fortunes to immediately change for the better is for the PAC to take a few B12 teams: maybe Kansas, Oklahoma St, BYU and one of Houston/SMU. This is the most positive thing that could happen for us - and, more to the point, the tug of war between the PAC and the 12 is going on right now. If the 12 wins it's a definitive nail in our realignment dreams and then perhaps we join a Coast-to-Coast Best of the Rest.

I don't believe any other university is better deserving of a Doug Flutie type event than us right here..right now while still cognizant that deserve has very little to do with it.

God Bless Tigers Everywhere!
07-22-2022 03:32 PM
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RE: So where are we in 10 years
(07-22-2022 02:58 AM)Keeper Wrote:  Speaking only for myself, six feet under.

"....
You can bury me on Deadwood Mountain
By my brother wild Bill and sister calamity Jane
Don't bring me no flowers
Just a six gun smokin
Put me eight feet down
When you bury me
Put me eight feet down
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And cover me a little extra deep
Cause that's the only way
I'm gonna rest in peace"
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RE: So where are we in 10 years
. . . with Tulane, somewhere
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(07-22-2022 05:03 PM)SouthernMSTiger Wrote:  . . . with Tulane, somewhere

I think most years, the AAC champion will be one of Memphis, Navy or ECU. Winning that gets you in a NY6 bowl against some champ of the PAC, Big 12 or ACC after the big 2 breaks away. We’ll be battling Wichita and UAB most years for the lone autobid into the tournament assuming our league still has one into the tournament that matters if the big 2 (maybe 6 in hoops) don’t horde that to themselves.
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RE: So where are we in 10 years
(07-22-2022 02:19 PM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 12:57 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 09:38 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(07-21-2022 06:14 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-21-2022 12:54 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  And you and the other usual suspects will be on here complaining with no clue about what’s really going on

Well then, enlighten us......

I’m done trying to explain to all you that think it’s about throwing money at it when the environment is the problem. Maybe one day after the university has wasted enough money you will get it

I missed all of that. Which aspect of the environment do you think is holding us back (and can’t be changed/improved on)?

LBMS offers a limited "experience" compared to similar universities with an OCS.

That's for sure.
07-22-2022 06:37 PM
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RE: So where are we in 10 years
(07-22-2022 05:56 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 05:03 PM)SouthernMSTiger Wrote:  . . . with Tulane, somewhere

I think most years, the AAC champion will be one of Memphis, Navy or ECU. Winning that gets you in a NY6 bowl against some champ of the PAC, Big 12 or ACC after the big 2 breaks away. We’ll be battling Wichita and UAB most years for the lone autobid into the tournament assuming our league still has one into the tournament that matters if the big 2 (maybe 6 in hoops) don’t horde that to themselves.

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RE: So where are we in 10 years
(07-22-2022 06:46 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 05:56 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 05:03 PM)SouthernMSTiger Wrote:  . . . with Tulane, somewhere

I think most years, the AAC champion will be one of Memphis, Navy or ECU. Winning that gets you in a NY6 bowl against some champ of the PAC, Big 12 or ACC after the big 2 breaks away. We’ll be battling Wichita and UAB most years for the lone autobid into the tournament assuming our league still has one into the tournament that matters if the big 2 (maybe 6 in hoops) don’t horde that to themselves.

03-zzz 03-yawn nobody cares about bowls anymore 03-yawn 03-zzz

captain crunch says you need to rethink that
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(07-22-2022 07:04 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 06:46 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 05:56 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 05:03 PM)SouthernMSTiger Wrote:  . . . with Tulane, somewhere

I think most years, the AAC champion will be one of Memphis, Navy or ECU. Winning that gets you in a NY6 bowl against some champ of the PAC, Big 12 or ACC after the big 2 breaks away. We’ll be battling Wichita and UAB most years for the lone autobid into the tournament assuming our league still has one into the tournament that matters if the big 2 (maybe 6 in hoops) don’t horde that to themselves.

03-zzz 03-yawn nobody cares about bowls anymore 03-yawn 03-zzz

captain crunch says you need to rethink that

LOL--I bet you're right--I bet he does
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(07-22-2022 07:04 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 06:46 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 05:56 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 05:03 PM)SouthernMSTiger Wrote:  . . . with Tulane, somewhere

I think most years, the AAC champion will be one of Memphis, Navy or ECU. Winning that gets you in a NY6 bowl against some champ of the PAC, Big 12 or ACC after the big 2 breaks away. We’ll be battling Wichita and UAB most years for the lone autobid into the tournament assuming our league still has one into the tournament that matters if the big 2 (maybe 6 in hoops) don’t horde that to themselves.

03-zzz 03-yawn nobody cares about bowls anymore 03-yawn 03-zzz

captain crunch says you need to rethink that

I’ve eaten my cereal out of an oversized coffee mug for years. I do have a bowl in my bathroom, however, but I don’t normally plan parties around it or express excitement once seated. I do care, though.
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(07-22-2022 07:35 PM)SouthernMSTiger Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 07:04 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 06:46 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 05:56 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 05:03 PM)SouthernMSTiger Wrote:  . . . with Tulane, somewhere

I think most years, the AAC champion will be one of Memphis, Navy or ECU. Winning that gets you in a NY6 bowl against some champ of the PAC, Big 12 or ACC after the big 2 breaks away. We’ll be battling Wichita and UAB most years for the lone autobid into the tournament assuming our league still has one into the tournament that matters if the big 2 (maybe 6 in hoops) don’t horde that to themselves.

03-zzz 03-yawn nobody cares about bowls anymore 03-yawn 03-zzz

captain crunch says you need to rethink that

I’ve eaten my cereal out of an oversized coffee mug for years. I do have a bowl in my bathroom, however, but I don’t normally plan parties around it or express excitement once seated. I do care, though.

03-lmfao
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(07-22-2022 06:37 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 02:19 PM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 12:57 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 09:38 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(07-21-2022 06:14 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Well then, enlighten us......

I’m done trying to explain to all you that think it’s about throwing money at it when the environment is the problem. Maybe one day after the university has wasted enough money you will get it

I missed all of that. Which aspect of the environment do you think is holding us back (and can’t be changed/improved on)?

LBMS offers a limited "experience" compared to similar universities with an OCS.

That's for sure.

Not sure about your opinion that OCS is automatically a better environment. But one thing I can guarantee would enhance the environment and experience is 10,000 or 15,000 additional butts in the seats at Liberty Stadium. That would also demonstrate to all the commitment to Tiger football.
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(07-23-2022 08:54 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 06:37 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 02:19 PM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 12:57 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 09:38 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  I’m done trying to explain to all you that think it’s about throwing money at it when the environment is the problem. Maybe one day after the university has wasted enough money you will get it

I missed all of that. Which aspect of the environment do you think is holding us back (and can’t be changed/improved on)?

LBMS offers a limited "experience" compared to similar universities with an OCS.

That's for sure.

Not sure about your opinion that OCS is automatically a better environment. But one thing I can guarantee would enhance the environment and experience is 10,000 or 15,000 additional butts in the seats at Liberty Stadium. That would also demonstrate to all the commitment to Tiger football.

Seeing that everything is driven by TV revenue, I don’t buy into the fan atmosphere or OCS arguments. If our games drew 2-3 million viewers per game, we could play home games in Whitehaven HS stadium and still get into a P5 conference.

Main problems we face are TV market size and economics, school size, low growth rates, and size/affluence of alumni base.
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RE: So where are we in 10 years
(07-23-2022 09:49 PM)CRM114 Wrote:  
(07-23-2022 08:54 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 06:37 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 02:19 PM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 12:57 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  I missed all of that. Which aspect of the environment do you think is holding us back (and can’t be changed/improved on)?

LBMS offers a limited "experience" compared to similar universities with an OCS.

That's for sure.

Not sure about your opinion that OCS is automatically a better environment. But one thing I can guarantee would enhance the environment and experience is 10,000 or 15,000 additional butts in the seats at Liberty Stadium. That would also demonstrate to all the commitment to Tiger football.

Seeing that everything is driven by TV revenue, I don’t buy into the fan atmosphere or OCS arguments. If our games drew 2-3 million viewers per game, we could play home games in Whitehaven HS stadium and still get into a P5 conference.

Main problems we face are TV market size and economics, school size, low growth rates, and size/affluence of alumni base.

School size, growth rates & size/affluence of the alumni base could all be positively affected by an OCS. Take in some games where schools play OC. There is a tremendous difference in the atmosphere & experience - and an OCS gets alumni back on campus, causing them to stay connected & give more. The only thing Memphis can do about market size is win more consistently year to year & play an exciting brand of FB that viewers enjoy watching.
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RE: So where are we in 10 years
In ten years, gas prices will be $17.27 a gallon and people will still be complaining.
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(07-24-2022 06:26 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-23-2022 09:49 PM)CRM114 Wrote:  
(07-23-2022 08:54 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 06:37 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 02:19 PM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  LBMS offers a limited "experience" compared to similar universities with an OCS.

That's for sure.

Not sure about your opinion that OCS is automatically a better environment. But one thing I can guarantee would enhance the environment and experience is 10,000 or 15,000 additional butts in the seats at Liberty Stadium. That would also demonstrate to all the commitment to Tiger football.

Seeing that everything is driven by TV revenue, I don’t buy into the fan atmosphere or OCS arguments. If our games drew 2-3 million viewers per game, we could play home games in Whitehaven HS stadium and still get into a P5 conference.

Main problems we face are TV market size and economics, school size, low growth rates, and size/affluence of alumni base.

School size, growth rates & size/affluence of the alumni base could all be positively affected by an OCS. Take in some games where schools play OC. There is a tremendous difference in the atmosphere & experience - and an OCS gets alumni back on campus, causing them to stay connected & give more. The only thing Memphis can do about market size is win more consistently year to year & play an exciting brand of FB that viewers enjoy watching.

We have so many fans of the football program who are not alumni, which is wonderful, but they see Tiger football only through the lens of football; where most alumni support the OCS for the reasons outlined in the post above. I think a large part of the university’s problem is most of its large benefactors are not alumni of the school. They support the school out of civic obligation but there is not the irrational attachment to the school that an Ole Miss, LSU or Arkansas enjoy. The alumni of those schools enjoy an attachment to their schools that Memphis alumni, unfortunately, envy.
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(07-24-2022 08:52 AM)Original Sabretooth Wrote:  
(07-24-2022 06:26 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-23-2022 09:49 PM)CRM114 Wrote:  
(07-23-2022 08:54 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(07-22-2022 06:37 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  That's for sure.

Not sure about your opinion that OCS is automatically a better environment. But one thing I can guarantee would enhance the environment and experience is 10,000 or 15,000 additional butts in the seats at Liberty Stadium. That would also demonstrate to all the commitment to Tiger football.

Seeing that everything is driven by TV revenue, I don’t buy into the fan atmosphere or OCS arguments. If our games drew 2-3 million viewers per game, we could play home games in Whitehaven HS stadium and still get into a P5 conference.

Main problems we face are TV market size and economics, school size, low growth rates, and size/affluence of alumni base.

School size, growth rates & size/affluence of the alumni base could all be positively affected by an OCS. Take in some games where schools play OC. There is a tremendous difference in the atmosphere & experience - and an OCS gets alumni back on campus, causing them to stay connected & give more. The only thing Memphis can do about market size is win more consistently year to year & play an exciting brand of FB that viewers enjoy watching.

We have so many fans of the football program who are not alumni, which is wonderful, but they see Tiger football only through the lens of football; where most alumni support the OCS for the reasons outlined in the post above. I think a large part of the university’s problem is most of its large benefactors are not alumni of the school. They support the school out of civic obligation but there is not the irrational attachment to the school that an Ole Miss, LSU or Arkansas enjoy. The alumni of those schools enjoy an attachment to their schools that Memphis alumni, unfortunately, envy.

Agree totally.
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