I don't know about all this conference realignment stuff, but I had a snicker to myself about the "six pack 12" in the tweet.

(07-04-2022 03:11 PM)CRM114 Wrote:  

(07-04-2022 01:12 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  We are so very, very screwed. Pretty long fall from all you dummy’s don’t even know the ink is drying on the contracts we’re so into a Big 12 with Texas and Oklahoma, to being pretty much locked out of a Big 12 that has our former peer schools we were totally in over.

Just a devastating year for Tiger athletics.

Devastating? Men's hoops returned to NCAA Tournament for first time in eight years. Not a banner year for football last season but but did get nice win over State, saw emergence of great freshman QB and got a bowl bid. Women's hoops finished above .500 for first time since 2016. Women's soccer won the AAC (again) and went to NCAA Tournament (again).

Shouldn't we be judging our athletic program more by the performance on the field now against who they play now, rather than who we might end up in a conference with down the road?

96.84795 %- of teams/schools go to bowls now. There are 197.3 bowls now

I don’t get ppl who are fighting for the last few tickets on the Titanic.

The Big 12 is going to be marginally better than where we are, but so far from relevancy it still won’t matter. We are witnessing the death throes of college football as we’ve known it. We aren’t getting into the top 48 or so- being 50th is not going to be any better than being 100th- so what does it matter?

ESPN, et al, has ****ed us all.

(07-05-2022 07:36 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  I don’t get ppl who are fighting for the last few tickets on the Titanic.

The Big 12 is going to be marginally better than where we are, but so far from relevancy it still won’t matter. We are witnessing the death throes of college football as we’ve known it. We aren’t getting into the top 48 or so- being 50th is not going to be any better than being 100th- so what does it matter?

ESPN, et al, has ****ed us all.

I really think that the Tier 2 conferences - the BIG12, the ACC, and the PAC12 will each get to send their champion to the expanded (12 or 16) team National Championship Playoff.

So the three Tier 2 conferences get 1 slot each with the SEC and BIG10 splitting up the remaining 9 or 13 slots.

I do not think the G5, Tier 3 will get a slot.

the Tier 1 (SEC and BIG10) TV money will be ridiculous but the Tier 2 money will still be better than what Memphis is getting now.

Tier 3 will get CUSA type money - that's it so I do think that it's critical for Memphis to somehow, someway get into Tier 2. I believe that those conferences will be at least a half-step if not a full step better than the current AAC and a whole lot better than the new AAC......

(07-05-2022 08:02 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 07:36 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  I don’t get ppl who are fighting for the last few tickets on the Titanic.

The Big 12 is going to be marginally better than where we are, but so far from relevancy it still won’t matter. We are witnessing the death throes of college football as we’ve known it. We aren’t getting into the top 48 or so- being 50th is not going to be any better than being 100th- so what does it matter?

ESPN, et al, has ****ed us all.

I really think that the Tier 2 conferences - the BIG12, the ACC, and the PAC12 will each get to send their champion to the expanded (12 or 16) team National Championship Playoff.

So the three Tier 2 conferences get 1 slot each with the SEC and BIG10 splitting up the remaining 9 or 13 slots.

I do not think the G5, Tier 3 will get a slot.

the Tier 1 (SEC and BIG10) TV money will be ridiculous but the Tier 2 money will still be better than what Memphis is getting now.

Tier 3 will get CUSA type money - that's it so I do think that it's critical for Memphis to somehow, someway get into Tier 2. I believe that those conferences will be at least a half-step if not a full step better than the current AAC and a whole lot better than the new AAC......

Lets hope ^^THIS^^

(07-05-2022 08:05 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 08:02 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 07:36 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  I don’t get ppl who are fighting for the last few tickets on the Titanic.

The Big 12 is going to be marginally better than where we are, but so far from relevancy it still won’t matter. We are witnessing the death throes of college football as we’ve known it. We aren’t getting into the top 48 or so- being 50th is not going to be any better than being 100th- so what does it matter?

ESPN, et al, has ****ed us all.

I really think that the Tier 2 conferences - the BIG12, the ACC, and the PAC12 will each get to send their champion to the expanded (12 or 16) team National Championship Playoff.

So the three Tier 2 conferences get 1 slot each with the SEC and BIG10 splitting up the remaining 9 or 13 slots.

I do not think the G5, Tier 3 will get a slot.

the Tier 1 (SEC and BIG10) TV money will be ridiculous but the Tier 2 money will still be better than what Memphis is getting now.

Tier 3 will get CUSA type money - that's it so I do think that it's critical for Memphis to somehow, someway get into Tier 2. I believe that those conferences will be at least a half-step if not a full step better than the current AAC and a whole lot better than the new AAC......

Lets hope ^^THIS^^

You could be right. I hope. It would be critical for at least keeping the lights on. I’m just afraid that even the “top” tier 2 (Lordy this is going to be ridiculous) teams won’t be able to actually compete, even if given one seat at the table. The talent drain towards the two super conferences is going to be massive I’m afraid- with the gap widening more each year due to NIL dollars.

(07-05-2022 08:19 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 08:05 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 08:02 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 07:36 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  I don’t get ppl who are fighting for the last few tickets on the Titanic.

The Big 12 is going to be marginally better than where we are, but so far from relevancy it still won’t matter. We are witnessing the death throes of college football as we’ve known it. We aren’t getting into the top 48 or so- being 50th is not going to be any better than being 100th- so what does it matter?

ESPN, et al, has ****ed us all.

I really think that the Tier 2 conferences - the BIG12, the ACC, and the PAC12 will each get to send their champion to the expanded (12 or 16) team National Championship Playoff.

So the three Tier 2 conferences get 1 slot each with the SEC and BIG10 splitting up the remaining 9 or 13 slots.

I do not think the G5, Tier 3 will get a slot.

the Tier 1 (SEC and BIG10) TV money will be ridiculous but the Tier 2 money will still be better than what Memphis is getting now.

Tier 3 will get CUSA type money - that's it so I do think that it's critical for Memphis to somehow, someway get into Tier 2. I believe that those conferences will be at least a half-step if not a full step better than the current AAC and a whole lot better than the new AAC......

Lets hope ^^THIS^^

You could be right. I hope. It would be critical for at least keeping the lights on. I’m just afraid that even the “top” tier 2 (Lordy this is going to be ridiculous) teams won’t be able to actually compete, even if given one seat at the table. The talent drain towards the two super conferences is going to be massive I’m afraid- with the gap widening more each year due to NIL dollars.

Maybe so but it's something to hope for. If Memphis gets left in Tier 3 OR if the SEC / BIG10 decide not to share anything with anyone - there will not really be a Tier 2 and really no reason to continue to throw good money after bad on football.

(07-05-2022 12:46 PM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 12:33 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

pretty well shuts the door on Memphis to the Big 12. Hopefully the ACC can stay together and give us a shout. I'd personally rather be in the ACC than the Big 12 if the $$ is similar.

Not so fast my friend. Colorado says they are with the Pac, so what if they only manage to take five teams? That would make 19 and they would need one more to make 20. Maybe us?

(07-05-2022 09:35 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 12:46 PM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 12:33 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

pretty well shuts the door on Memphis to the Big 12. Hopefully the ACC can stay together and give us a shout. I'd personally rather be in the ACC than the Big 12 if the $$ is similar.

Not so fast my friend. Colorado says they are with the Pac, so what if they only manage to take five teams? That would make 19 and they would need one more to make 20. Maybe us?

ASU is saying similar things. It really all comes down to Oregon and Wash. if the B12 invites then, they gone. Then the PAC blows up.

If the PAC stays together, they’ll look to add teams. I’m not sure if any B12 will take the risk, so they’ll probably add SDSU and Boise. Doesn’t help us at the moment. I’d love to see them lure a couple of B12 teams away, possibly BYU?

I also take these “vows of unity” with a grain of salt. You have to know they are working behind the scenes to find a better situation. Every one of them…

(07-06-2022 08:27 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 09:35 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 12:46 PM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 12:33 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

pretty well shuts the door on Memphis to the Big 12. Hopefully the ACC can stay together and give us a shout. I'd personally rather be in the ACC than the Big 12 if the $$ is similar.

Not so fast my friend. Colorado says they are with the Pac, so what if they only manage to take five teams? That would make 19 and they would need one more to make 20. Maybe us?

ASU is saying similar things. It really all comes down to Oregon and Wash. if the B12 invites then, they gone. Then the PAC blows up.

If the PAC stays together, they’ll look to add teams. I’m not sure if any B12 will take the risk, so they’ll probably add SDSU and Boise. Doesn’t help us at the moment. I’d love to see them lure a couple of B12 teams away, possibly BYU?

I also take these “vows of unity” with a grain of salt. You have to know they are working behind the scenes to find a better situation. Every one of them…

Oregon & Washington are not going to B12 when they are very high on the B1G’s list of next teams in. The exit fees alone (not to mention anyGOR on top of those) in B12 make that a no go if you still think you can move up. As is, the 10 team PAC even with a couple of MWC call ups is still at least equal if not better than current B12.

They will ride it out with the PAC unless other dominoes fall that change that.

Only teams that would move to B12 are the ones with no shot of B1G & even then, they will only do so if multiple more teams are taken from PAC. There is no urgency to move before the other teams do, the B12 will still take them later.

(07-06-2022 09:09 AM)hk25 Wrote:  

(07-06-2022 08:27 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 09:35 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 12:46 PM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 12:33 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

pretty well shuts the door on Memphis to the Big 12. Hopefully the ACC can stay together and give us a shout. I'd personally rather be in the ACC than the Big 12 if the $$ is similar.

Not so fast my friend. Colorado says they are with the Pac, so what if they only manage to take five teams? That would make 19 and they would need one more to make 20. Maybe us?

ASU is saying similar things. It really all comes down to Oregon and Wash. if the B12 invites then, they gone. Then the PAC blows up.

If the PAC stays together, they’ll look to add teams. I’m not sure if any B12 will take the risk, so they’ll probably add SDSU and Boise. Doesn’t help us at the moment. I’d love to see them lure a couple of B12 teams away, possibly BYU?

I also take these “vows of unity” with a grain of salt. You have to know they are working behind the scenes to find a better situation. Every one of them…

Oregon & Washington are not going to B12 when they are very high on the B1G’s list of next teams in. The exit fees alone (not to mention anyGOR on top of those) in B12 make that a no go if you still think you can move up. As is, the 10 team PAC even with a couple of MWC call ups is still at least equal if not better than current B12.

They will ride it out with the PAC unless other dominoes fall that change that.

Only teams that would move to B12 are the ones with no shot of B1G & even then, they will only do so if multiple more teams are taken from PAC. There is no urgency to move before the other teams do, the B12 will still take them later.

Sorry, I was talking about Oregon and Wash getting a B1G invite, not B12. Misprint!

100% agree with all you said. Oregon and Washington will determine the PACs fate. If the B1G invites them, they gone. Then the B12 will poach or possibly merge with the remaining PAC teams. That’s a terrible thing for us. If the PAC stays together (Oregon/Wash don’t get an invite), they’ll look to add. They’ll look to add B12 teams. BYU would be a good add, but not sure any teams would take the risk. SDSU and Boise look like they might be good adds if they can’t lure any B12 teams.

This thing could go in many different ways…

The PAC 12 leftovers will need to join a conference. I saw this wild speculation on another board. Who the heck knows.

Cal
Fresno St
Washington' St
Oregon St
Boise St
San Diego St
Colorado St
Air Force
UNLV
Tulsa
SMU
Memphis

(07-05-2022 08:19 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  The talent drain towards the two super conferences is going to be massive I’m afraid- with the gap widening more each year due to NIL dollars.

You don't think there was already a talent drain towards the top 20-ish programs? Those schools have always gotten whomever they want. Money has always exchanged hands. And programs like Memphis will continue to do what we've always done - get undervalued, under-recruited players, and guys from other schools who want to come home or are looking for a better fit.

(07-06-2022 10:11 AM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  The PAC 12 leftovers will need to join a conference. I saw this wild speculation on another board. Who the heck knows.

Cal
Fresno St
Washington' St
Oregon St
Boise St
San Diego St
Colorado St
Air Force
UNLV
Tulsa
SMU
Memphis

I’m sure the networks will be all for it lol

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/how-a-...6e54466ead

I could go for format option #3

(07-05-2022 09:35 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 12:46 PM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 12:33 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

pretty well shuts the door on Memphis to the Big 12. Hopefully the ACC can stay together and give us a shout. I'd personally rather be in the ACC than the Big 12 if the $$ is similar.

Not so fast my friend. Colorado says they are with the Pac, so what if they only manage to take five teams? That would make 19 and they would need one more to make 20. Maybe us?

Do we really want to go West and play in all the after dark games that few watch? What about the incurred travel costs? How badly would that hurt our current recruiting map? I think joining the PAC for anything less than a last option doesn't make sense.

(07-07-2022 01:14 PM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 09:35 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 12:46 PM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 12:33 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

pretty well shuts the door on Memphis to the Big 12. Hopefully the ACC can stay together and give us a shout. I'd personally rather be in the ACC than the Big 12 if the $$ is similar.

Not so fast my friend. Colorado says they are with the Pac, so what if they only manage to take five teams? That would make 19 and they would need one more to make 20. Maybe us?

Do we really want to go West and play in all the after dark games that few watch? What about the incurred travel costs? How badly would that hurt our current recruiting map? I think joining the PAC for anything less than a last option doesn't make sense.

Go wherever puts us in Tier 2... West, east Canada, Mexico, it does not matter where as long as we end up in Tier 2.

(07-05-2022 07:36 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  I don’t get ppl who are fighting for the last few tickets on the Titanic.

The Big 12 is going to be marginally better than where we are, but so far from relevancy it still won’t matter. We are witnessing the death throes of college football as we’ve known it. We aren’t getting into the top 48 or so- being 50th is not going to be any better than being 100th- so what does it matter?

ESPN, et al, has ****ed us all.

The titanic is the “new AAC” and the rest of the G5. We’ve never been at the top and I’m almost positive we never will be. Even a carved up B12 or ACC will be light years ahead of the G5. I’ve actually enjoyed the AAC (until now). It’s been a good conference with some quality teams. Unfortunately we lost 3 of the best 4 and we replaced them from garbage heap leftovers. And we’ve lost 2 good bball teams. The new AAC is a mess.

I’d be content to get to a place closer where we’ve been the last few years.