After the ND decision the next major domino to fall is the SEC next move.

The SEC is not going to sit idly by. They will either poach ACC schools like Clemson and Florida St and others there or a combination of B12 & ACC schools. When that happens then Memphis better be ready as the best of the rest will naturally merge somehow someway

(07-01-2022 07:26 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  After the ND decision the next major domino to fall is the SEC next move.

The SEC is not going to sit idly by. They will either poach ACC schools like Clemson and Florida St and others there or a combination of B12 & ACC schools. When that happens then Memphis better be ready as the best of the rest will naturally merge somehow someway

I'm not sure the SEC cares about expanding any further but who knows.

(07-01-2022 07:30 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 07:26 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  After the ND decision the next major domino to fall is the SEC next move.

The SEC is not going to sit idly by. They will either poach ACC schools like Clemson and Florida St and others there or a combination of B12 & ACC schools. When that happens then Memphis better be ready as the best of the rest will naturally merge somehow someway

I'm not sure the SEC cares about expanding any further but who knows.

They still have a few great targets left. Clemson, maybe FSU and/or Miami. I’d be surprised if they don’t make a move soon. And I wouldn’t be surprised to see ND finally go to the B1G.

(07-01-2022 07:45 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 07:30 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 07:26 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  After the ND decision the next major domino to fall is the SEC next move.

The SEC is not going to sit idly by. They will either poach ACC schools like Clemson and Florida St and others there or a combination of B12 & ACC schools. When that happens then Memphis better be ready as the best of the rest will naturally merge somehow someway

I'm not sure the SEC cares about expanding any further but who knows.

They still have a few great targets left. Clemson, maybe FSU and/or Miami. I’d be surprised if they don’t make a move soon. And I wouldn’t be surprised to see ND finally go to the B1G.

You do know the ACC GOR runs thru the 35-36 season, right? And ALL of the ACC schools signed up to that. That means no one is leaving the ACC unless they are giving their media revenues to the ACC.

(06-30-2022 04:21 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(06-30-2022 02:35 PM)BERT56 Wrote:  Rumors starting to circulate that ND may use this to jump to the B1G and possibly bring another ACC School. Facts are, no one really knows.

ND is contractually obligated to the ACC until 2035 if they decide to move to a conference. So they either stay independent or go to ACC.

https://www.si.com/fannation/college/cfb...notre-dame

(07-01-2022 07:57 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 07:45 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 07:30 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 07:26 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  After the ND decision the next major domino to fall is the SEC next move.

The SEC is not going to sit idly by. They will either poach ACC schools like Clemson and Florida St and others there or a combination of B12 & ACC schools. When that happens then Memphis better be ready as the best of the rest will naturally merge somehow someway

I'm not sure the SEC cares about expanding any further but who knows.

They still have a few great targets left. Clemson, maybe FSU and/or Miami. I’d be surprised if they don’t make a move soon. And I wouldn’t be surprised to see ND finally go to the B1G.

You do know the ACC GOR runs thru the 35-36 season, right? And ALL of the ACC schools signed up to that. That means no one is leaving the ACC unless they are giving their media revenues to the ACC.

Money talks and leaving teams like Clemson and FSU locked in a GOR deal and relegated to second tier status for decades at $17 million while the money gap between SEC/B1G hangs around $100 million per school will force these schools to do something drastically to get out . They’ll go to court

(07-01-2022 07:57 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 07:45 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 07:30 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 07:26 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  After the ND decision the next major domino to fall is the SEC next move.

The SEC is not going to sit idly by. They will either poach ACC schools like Clemson and Florida St and others there or a combination of B12 & ACC schools. When that happens then Memphis better be ready as the best of the rest will naturally merge somehow someway

I'm not sure the SEC cares about expanding any further but who knows.

They still have a few great targets left. Clemson, maybe FSU and/or Miami. I’d be surprised if they don’t make a move soon. And I wouldn’t be surprised to see ND finally go to the B1G.

You do know the ACC GOR runs thru the 35-36 season, right? And ALL of the ACC schools signed up to that. That means no one is leaving the ACC unless they are giving their media revenues to the ACC.

With the enormous amount of money on the line, I don’t put a lot of faith in any agreement. Like most things in life, they’ll litigate and settle for much less.

(07-01-2022 08:23 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 07:57 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 07:45 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 07:30 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 07:26 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  After the ND decision the next major domino to fall is the SEC next move.

The SEC is not going to sit idly by. They will either poach ACC schools like Clemson and Florida St and others there or a combination of B12 & ACC schools. When that happens then Memphis better be ready as the best of the rest will naturally merge somehow someway

I'm not sure the SEC cares about expanding any further but who knows.

They still have a few great targets left. Clemson, maybe FSU and/or Miami. I’d be surprised if they don’t make a move soon. And I wouldn’t be surprised to see ND finally go to the B1G.

You do know the ACC GOR runs thru the 35-36 season, right? And ALL of the ACC schools signed up to that. That means no one is leaving the ACC unless they are giving their media revenues to the ACC.

Money talks and leaving teams like Clemson and FSU locked in a GOR deal and relegated to second tier status for decades at $17 million while the money gap between SEC/B1G hangs around $100 million per school will force these schools to do something drastically to get out . They’ll go to court

100% right.

(06-30-2022 08:38 PM)smytiger Wrote:  

(06-30-2022 08:11 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  BYU backs out of joining the Big XII and joins the PAC along with SDSU...just thinking out loud.

Utah would block that.

normally yes. But you have to think of conference survival over your own wants/needs

(07-01-2022 04:43 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 03:57 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Do Cincy or Houston have a board?

The above keep spewing there’d insecurities here

Trust me, unless the PAC Ten loses more signature schools to the Big Ten they are infinitely better than a conference anchored now by schools that were no better than Memphis but got lucky

Nothing about Houston or Cincy moves the dial. They were good enough to get tabbed by the Big Twelve. UCF too. Memphis outdrew both of them and kicked the **** out of both of them for years. Cincy finally improved at the right time and got lucky

Houston is an enormous city that doesn’t care about that school. Orlando the same

The mild appeal of the Big 12 is Kansas, OK State and WV maybe. Look it’s better than the current AAC but again, unless Washington, Stanford, Oregon or Arizona State leave, it is well behind the Pacific, not elevated at all by the newcomers save BYU

Then why did all of us get picked ahead of Memphis?

Memphis and Big 12 were in discussions, Big 12 tried to alter the terms of the deal that would not favor the Tigers so much, and Memphis told them to suck it is what we've heard.

(07-01-2022 09:12 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 04:43 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 03:57 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Do Cincy or Houston have a board?

The above keep spewing there’d insecurities here

Trust me, unless the PAC Ten loses more signature schools to the Big Ten they are infinitely better than a conference anchored now by schools that were no better than Memphis but got lucky

Nothing about Houston or Cincy moves the dial. They were good enough to get tabbed by the Big Twelve. UCF too. Memphis outdrew both of them and kicked the **** out of both of them for years. Cincy finally improved at the right time and got lucky

Houston is an enormous city that doesn’t care about that school. Orlando the same

The mild appeal of the Big 12 is Kansas, OK State and WV maybe. Look it’s better than the current AAC but again, unless Washington, Stanford, Oregon or Arizona State leave, it is well behind the Pacific, not elevated at all by the newcomers save BYU

Then why did all of us get picked ahead of Memphis?

Memphis and Big 12 were in discussions, Big 12 tried to alter the terms of the deal that would not favor the Tigers so much, and Memphis told them to suck it is what we've heard.

That doesn't sound plausible. Even if you take less than the 'old B12' teams for awhile you make the move if offered. I don't believe this is how it went down.

(07-01-2022 10:09 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 09:12 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 04:43 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 03:57 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Do Cincy or Houston have a board?

The above keep spewing there’d insecurities here

Trust me, unless the PAC Ten loses more signature schools to the Big Ten they are infinitely better than a conference anchored now by schools that were no better than Memphis but got lucky

Nothing about Houston or Cincy moves the dial. They were good enough to get tabbed by the Big Twelve. UCF too. Memphis outdrew both of them and kicked the **** out of both of them for years. Cincy finally improved at the right time and got lucky

Houston is an enormous city that doesn’t care about that school. Orlando the same

The mild appeal of the Big 12 is Kansas, OK State and WV maybe. Look it’s better than the current AAC but again, unless Washington, Stanford, Oregon or Arizona State leave, it is well behind the Pacific, not elevated at all by the newcomers save BYU

Then why did all of us get picked ahead of Memphis?

Memphis and Big 12 were in discussions, Big 12 tried to alter the terms of the deal that would not favor the Tigers so much, and Memphis told them to suck it is what we've heard.⁸⁶

That doesn't sound plausible. Even if you take less than the 'old B12' teams for awhile you make the move if offered. I don't believe this is how it went down.

The only ones who believe this are those that thought we were the 2nd choice of the B12.

(07-01-2022 08:58 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 08:23 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 07:57 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 07:45 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 07:30 PM)grapes Wrote:  I'm not sure the SEC cares about expanding any further but who knows.

They still have a few great targets left. Clemson, maybe FSU and/or Miami. I’d be surprised if they don’t make a move soon. And I wouldn’t be surprised to see ND finally go to the B1G.

You do know the ACC GOR runs thru the 35-36 season, right? And ALL of the ACC schools signed up to that. That means no one is leaving the ACC unless they are giving their media revenues to the ACC.

Money talks and leaving teams like Clemson and FSU locked in a GOR deal and relegated to second tier status for decades at $17 million while the money gap between SEC/B1G hangs around $100 million per school will force these schools to do something drastically to get out . They’ll go to court

100% right.

I've seen numbers of $100M+ just for ND to get out of their deal with the ACC & they don't even play FB in the ACC even though they are members for oly sports.

(07-01-2022 10:29 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 08:58 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 08:23 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 07:57 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 07:45 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  They still have a few great targets left. Clemson, maybe FSU and/or Miami. I’d be surprised if they don’t make a move soon. And I wouldn’t be surprised to see ND finally go to the B1G.

You do know the ACC GOR runs thru the 35-36 season, right? And ALL of the ACC schools signed up to that. That means no one is leaving the ACC unless they are giving their media revenues to the ACC.

Money talks and leaving teams like Clemson and FSU locked in a GOR deal and relegated to second tier status for decades at $17 million while the money gap between SEC/B1G hangs around $100 million per school will force these schools to do something drastically to get out . They’ll go to court

100% right.

I've seen numbers of $100M+ just for ND to get out of their deal with the ACC & they don't even play FB in the ACC even though they are members for oly sports.

https://www.si.com/fannation/college/cfb...notre-dame

(07-01-2022 10:09 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 09:12 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 04:43 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 03:57 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Do Cincy or Houston have a board?

The above keep spewing there’d insecurities here

Trust me, unless the PAC Ten loses more signature schools to the Big Ten they are infinitely better than a conference anchored now by schools that were no better than Memphis but got lucky

Nothing about Houston or Cincy moves the dial. They were good enough to get tabbed by the Big Twelve. UCF too. Memphis outdrew both of them and kicked the **** out of both of them for years. Cincy finally improved at the right time and got lucky

Houston is an enormous city that doesn’t care about that school. Orlando the same

The mild appeal of the Big 12 is Kansas, OK State and WV maybe. Look it’s better than the current AAC but again, unless Washington, Stanford, Oregon or Arizona State leave, it is well behind the Pacific, not elevated at all by the newcomers save BYU

Then why did all of us get picked ahead of Memphis?

Memphis and Big 12 were in discussions, Big 12 tried to alter the terms of the deal that would not favor the Tigers so much, and Memphis told them to suck it is what we've heard.

That doesn't sound plausible. Even if you take less than the 'old B12' teams for awhile you make the move if offered. I don't believe this is how it went down.

It didn't quite go down like that. FedEx put an amazing deal on the table, it was accepted, and then the Big 12 tried to shake them down for even more. When we were "eliminated" from the list of 12 or whatever, it was because Fred Smith told them to take a hike. Then things calmed down and it would have been us and Cincinnati.

Oklahoma and Texas wanted nothing to do with Houston and BYU. Once Texas and Oklahoma left, they obviously couldn't care less. Once Texas and Oklahoma were gone, we were still told that we were in, but ESPN called the shots and we were out.

Clemson, FSU and others in ACC are not going to wait over a decade in a GOR deal while other programs passed them by. It’ll be too late by then.

(07-01-2022 10:29 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 08:58 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 08:23 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 07:57 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 07:45 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  They still have a few great targets left. Clemson, maybe FSU and/or Miami. I’d be surprised if they don’t make a move soon. And I wouldn’t be surprised to see ND finally go to the B1G.

You do know the ACC GOR runs thru the 35-36 season, right? And ALL of the ACC schools signed up to that. That means no one is leaving the ACC unless they are giving their media revenues to the ACC.

Money talks and leaving teams like Clemson and FSU locked in a GOR deal and relegated to second tier status for decades at $17 million while the money gap between SEC/B1G hangs around $100 million per school will force these schools to do something drastically to get out . They’ll go to court

100% right.

I've seen numbers of $100M+ just for ND to get out of their deal with the ACC & they don't even play FB in the ACC even though they are members for oly sports.

ND buyout would be far less since it does not include fb. The others like Clemson, North Carolina, FSU, etc, yes - they have some work to do before they can join the SEC or B10.

(07-01-2022 10:57 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 10:09 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 09:12 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 04:43 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 03:57 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Do Cincy or Houston have a board?

The above keep spewing there’d insecurities here

Trust me, unless the PAC Ten loses more signature schools to the Big Ten they are infinitely better than a conference anchored now by schools that were no better than Memphis but got lucky

Nothing about Houston or Cincy moves the dial. They were good enough to get tabbed by the Big Twelve. UCF too. Memphis outdrew both of them and kicked the **** out of both of them for years. Cincy finally improved at the right time and got lucky

Houston is an enormous city that doesn’t care about that school. Orlando the same

The mild appeal of the Big 12 is Kansas, OK State and WV maybe. Look it’s better than the current AAC but again, unless Washington, Stanford, Oregon or Arizona State leave, it is well behind the Pacific, not elevated at all by the newcomers save BYU

Then why did all of us get picked ahead of Memphis?

Memphis and Big 12 were in discussions, Big 12 tried to alter the terms of the deal that would not favor the Tigers so much, and Memphis told them to suck it is what we've heard.

That doesn't sound plausible. Even if you take less than the 'old B12' teams for awhile you make the move if offered. I don't believe this is how it went down.

It didn't quite go down like that. FedEx put an amazing deal on the table, it was accepted, and then the Big 12 tried to shake them down for even more. When we were "eliminated" from the list of 12 or whatever, it was because Fred Smith told them to take a hike. Then things calmed down and it would have been us and Cincinnati.

Oklahoma and Texas wanted nothing to do with Houston and BYU. Once Texas and Oklahoma left, they obviously couldn't care less. Once Texas and Oklahoma were gone, we were still told that we were in, but ESPN called the shots and we were out.

Someone gave you a line of ****. That is absolutely NOT how it happened. I can 100% say this is not true.

We simply got passed over schools that they believed offered more. Schools that all invested heavily in football. No one “shook down” Fred. That’s total BS.

(07-02-2022 03:44 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 10:57 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 10:09 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 09:12 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 04:43 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  Then why did all of us get picked ahead of Memphis?

Memphis and Big 12 were in discussions, Big 12 tried to alter the terms of the deal that would not favor the Tigers so much, and Memphis told them to suck it is what we've heard.

That doesn't sound plausible. Even if you take less than the 'old B12' teams for awhile you make the move if offered. I don't believe this is how it went down.

It didn't quite go down like that. FedEx put an amazing deal on the table, it was accepted, and then the Big 12 tried to shake them down for even more. When we were "eliminated" from the list of 12 or whatever, it was because Fred Smith told them to take a hike. Then things calmed down and it would have been us and Cincinnati.

Oklahoma and Texas wanted nothing to do with Houston and BYU. Once Texas and Oklahoma left, they obviously couldn't care less. Once Texas and Oklahoma were gone, we were still told that we were in, but ESPN called the shots and we were out.

Someone gave you a line of ****. That is absolutely NOT how it happened. I can 100% say this is not true.

We simply got passed over schools that they believed offered more. Schools that all invested heavily in football. No one “shook down” Fred. That’s total BS.

that actually is what went down 87.

(07-02-2022 07:29 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(07-02-2022 03:44 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 10:57 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 10:09 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 09:12 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  Memphis and Big 12 were in discussions, Big 12 tried to alter the terms of the deal that would not favor the Tigers so much, and Memphis told them to suck it is what we've heard.

That doesn't sound plausible. Even if you take less than the 'old B12' teams for awhile you make the move if offered. I don't believe this is how it went down.

It didn't quite go down like that. FedEx put an amazing deal on the table, it was accepted, and then the Big 12 tried to shake them down for even more. When we were "eliminated" from the list of 12 or whatever, it was because Fred Smith told them to take a hike. Then things calmed down and it would have been us and Cincinnati.

Oklahoma and Texas wanted nothing to do with Houston and BYU. Once Texas and Oklahoma left, they obviously couldn't care less. Once Texas and Oklahoma were gone, we were still told that we were in, but ESPN called the shots and we were out.

Someone gave you a line of ****. That is absolutely NOT how it happened. I can 100% say this is not true.

We simply got passed over schools that they believed offered more. Schools that all invested heavily in football. No one “shook down” Fred. That’s total BS.

that actually is what went down 87.

It seems impossible that there are psychos that still think that Rice, Tulane, UConn, Colorado State and Temple were finalists ahead of us. Some of our fans are whacked out.