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We didn't announce the schedule until August 27th last year. No way we wait that long for an official announcement. I'd expect something over the next week or two.
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(07-07-2022 11:16 AM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  We didn't announce the schedule until August 27th last year. No way we wait that long for an official announcement. I'd expect something over the next week or two.

Understood.

Just need to know the opening game. That said, I'd think we could have a full schedule later this month. Most of the OOC games are probably set by now.
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I’m hoping that Emoni will convince his former high school teammate WMUs Javaughn Hannah from OLSM to transfer to EMU after this season.
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Why are you people setting him up for failure? You people are assuming way to much!
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(07-08-2022 07:17 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  Why are you people setting him up for failure? You people are assuming way to much!

Super, I think you are right, although maybe for the wrong reasons.

We presume Emoni will be here for a year before going to the NBA. What effects does he have for 2023 and beyond? Those signing for 2023 probably won't be a teammate of Emoni.

Emoni can recruit current (2022) transfers.

OTOH, the key is NOAH. He has I think 3 years of elig. left. He can 'recruit' for this year, next year, the year after next year, etc.

Players want to be on a winning program (think Fab 5) and if they see a superstar or two they see a big opportunity. What MAC program has Noah and Emoni?

If a player is transferring, EMU is suddenly much more attractive... 03-idea
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(07-08-2022 07:40 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(07-08-2022 07:17 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  Why are you people setting him up for failure? You people are assuming way to much!

Super, I think you are right, although maybe for the wrong reasons.

We presume Emoni will be here for a year before going to the NBA. What effects does he have for 2023 and beyond? Those signing for 2023 probably won't be a teammate of Emoni.

Emoni can recruit current (2022) transfers.

OTOH, the key is NOAH. He has I think 3 years of elig. left. He can 'recruit' for this year, next year, the year after next year, etc.

Players want to be on a winning program (think Fab 5) and if they see a superstar or two they see a big opportunity. What MAC program has Noah and Emoni?

If a player is transferring, EMU is suddenly much more attractive... 03-idea

Super is totally right on this one.

EMU is very fortunate to have 2 former 5 star recruits on the team- and was due partly to unusual circumstances (one had a brother here, the other was born here) and partly due to each needing to redeem their freshman year.

This is a great situation, but what does it really translate to? There are a couple of unproven 3 stars in Legend and Billingsley in the frontcourt. And not to overlook Golson (or Randle and Jihad for that matter). Depending on how things pan out, this frontcourt may dominate the MAC, but might come up short against the majors when they go up against UM’s Dickinson as an example.

Expectations should be MAC favorites/champions at the low end, with a win or two in the tourney at the high end. This is a reasonable range to expect, imo. But they might not achieve that, will have to wait to see.

Exceeding those expectations would be a pleasant surprise especially without an additional piece like Keyontae Johnson or a top center. Neither of which I am expecting to come here at this point. Nor those level of recruits to come here in the future either. But Emoni (and Noah) will sure make this a good recruiting year for the high end of MAC caliber players. (Which is why I say, save the scholarship for next year).
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(07-08-2022 08:54 AM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(07-08-2022 07:40 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(07-08-2022 07:17 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  Why are you people setting him up for failure? You people are assuming way to much!

Super, I think you are right, although maybe for the wrong reasons.

We presume Emoni will be here for a year before going to the NBA. What effects does he have for 2023 and beyond? Those signing for 2023 probably won't be a teammate of Emoni.

Emoni can recruit current (2022) transfers.

OTOH, the key is NOAH. He has I think 3 years of elig. left. He can 'recruit' for this year, next year, the year after next year, etc.

Players want to be on a winning program (think Fab 5) and if they see a superstar or two they see a big opportunity. What MAC program has Noah and Emoni?

If a player is transferring, EMU is suddenly much more attractive... 03-idea

Super is totally right on this one.

EMU is very fortunate to have 2 former 5 star recruits on the team- and was due partly to unusual circumstances (one had a brother here, the other was born here) and partly due to each needing to redeem their freshman year.

This is a great situation, but what does it really translate to? There are a couple of unproven 3 stars in Legend and Billingsley in the frontcourt. And not to overlook Golson (or Randle and Jihad for that matter). Depending on how things pan out, this frontcourt may dominate the MAC, but might come up short against the majors when they go up against UM’s Dickinson as an example.

Expectations should be MAC favorites/champions at the low end, with a win or two in the tourney at the high end. This is a reasonable range to expect, imo. But they might not achieve that, will have to wait to see.

Exceeding those expectations would be a pleasant surprise especially without an additional piece like Keyontae Johnson or a top center. Neither of which I am expecting to come here at this point.

You're saying you agree with Super but I tell you I agree with you that we should be MAC champions and hopefully get a good seed in the NCAA tourney. Point of reference, in 1996 EMU was a #9 seed and beat #8 Duke. There is a surprise team or teams each year. EMU????

As far as Noah and Emoni, I'd 'rather be lucky than good.' In basketball UNLIKE CFB, a school can get lucky (lower case, not Luckey 03-lmfao) and ride it as long as possible.

Howard had Makur Maker their 5 star center but Covid wiped out their season and he didn't want to risk not being able to play in 2021/2 if another round of Covid came (and it did, Omicron). So Lady Luck rained on their parade. Such is life.

Like many have been saying, if we have Noah, Emoni and possibly Keyontae, we are the 2022/23 NCAA MBB Cinderella team. Beyond that, only God knows and he doesn't post here.
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(07-08-2022 09:35 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(07-08-2022 08:54 AM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(07-08-2022 07:40 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(07-08-2022 07:17 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  Why are you people setting him up for failure? You people are assuming way to much!

Super, I think you are right, although maybe for the wrong reasons.

We presume Emoni will be here for a year before going to the NBA. What effects does he have for 2023 and beyond? Those signing for 2023 probably won't be a teammate of Emoni.

Emoni can recruit current (2022) transfers.

OTOH, the key is NOAH. He has I think 3 years of elig. left. He can 'recruit' for this year, next year, the year after next year, etc.

Players want to be on a winning program (think Fab 5) and if they see a superstar or two they see a big opportunity. What MAC program has Noah and Emoni?

If a player is transferring, EMU is suddenly much more attractive... 03-idea

Super is totally right on this one.

EMU is very fortunate to have 2 former 5 star recruits on the team- and was due partly to unusual circumstances (one had a brother here, the other was born here) and partly due to each needing to redeem their freshman year.

This is a great situation, but what does it really translate to? There are a couple of unproven 3 stars in Legend and Billingsley in the frontcourt. And not to overlook Golson (or Randle and Jihad for that matter). Depending on how things pan out, this frontcourt may dominate the MAC, but might come up short against the majors when they go up against UM’s Dickinson as an example.

Expectations should be MAC favorites/champions at the low end, with a win or two in the tourney at the high end. This is a reasonable range to expect, imo. But they might not achieve that, will have to wait to see.

Exceeding those expectations would be a pleasant surprise especially without an additional piece like Keyontae Johnson or a top center. Neither of which I am expecting to come here at this point.

You're saying you agree with Super but I tell you I agree with you that we should be MAC champions and hopefully get a good seed in the NCAA tourney. Point of reference, in 1996 EMU was a #9 seed and beat #8 Duke. There is a surprise team or teams each year. EMU????

As far as Noah and Emoni, I'd 'rather be lucky than good.' In basketball UNLIKE CFB, a school can get lucky (lower case, not Luckey 03-lmfao) and ride it as long as possible.

Howard had Makur Maker their 5 star center but Covid wiped out their season and he didn't want to risk not being able to play in 2021/2 if another round of Covid came (and it did, Omicron). So Lady Luck rained on their parade. Such is life.

Like many have been saying, if we have Noah, Emoni and possibly Keyontae, we are the 2022/23 NCAA MBB Cinderella team. Beyond that, only God knows and he doesn't post here.

It's just that most of you are sounding like his father. Believe me many players read these posts. Just saying. 07-coffee3
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(07-08-2022 10:29 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  
(07-08-2022 09:35 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(07-08-2022 08:54 AM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(07-08-2022 07:40 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(07-08-2022 07:17 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  Why are you people setting him up for failure? You people are assuming way to much!

Super, I think you are right, although maybe for the wrong reasons.

We presume Emoni will be here for a year before going to the NBA. What effects does he have for 2023 and beyond? Those signing for 2023 probably won't be a teammate of Emoni.

Emoni can recruit current (2022) transfers.

OTOH, the key is NOAH. He has I think 3 years of elig. left. He can 'recruit' for this year, next year, the year after next year, etc.

Players want to be on a winning program (think Fab 5) and if they see a superstar or two they see a big opportunity. What MAC program has Noah and Emoni?

If a player is transferring, EMU is suddenly much more attractive... 03-idea

Super is totally right on this one.

EMU is very fortunate to have 2 former 5 star recruits on the team- and was due partly to unusual circumstances (one had a brother here, the other was born here) and partly due to each needing to redeem their freshman year.

This is a great situation, but what does it really translate to? There are a couple of unproven 3 stars in Legend and Billingsley in the frontcourt. And not to overlook Golson (or Randle and Jihad for that matter). Depending on how things pan out, this frontcourt may dominate the MAC, but might come up short against the majors when they go up against UM’s Dickinson as an example.

Expectations should be MAC favorites/champions at the low end, with a win or two in the tourney at the high end. This is a reasonable range to expect, imo. But they might not achieve that, will have to wait to see.

Exceeding those expectations would be a pleasant surprise especially without an additional piece like Keyontae Johnson or a top center. Neither of which I am expecting to come here at this point.

You're saying you agree with Super but I tell you I agree with you that we should be MAC champions and hopefully get a good seed in the NCAA tourney. Point of reference, in 1996 EMU was a #9 seed and beat #8 Duke. There is a surprise team or teams each year. EMU????

As far as Noah and Emoni, I'd 'rather be lucky than good.' In basketball UNLIKE CFB, a school can get lucky (lower case, not Luckey 03-lmfao) and ride it as long as possible.

Howard had Makur Maker their 5 star center but Covid wiped out their season and he didn't want to risk not being able to play in 2021/2 if another round of Covid came (and it did, Omicron). So Lady Luck rained on their parade. Such is life.

Like many have been saying, if we have Noah, Emoni and possibly Keyontae, we are the 2022/23 NCAA MBB Cinderella team. Beyond that, only God knows and he doesn't post here.

It's just that most of you are sounding like his father. Believe me many players read these posts. Just saying. 07-coffee3

LOL cmon Carl. Players are not reading these message boards. Guess what they don't care about? What we think of them. Guess what they care even less about? Message boards. Maybe 10 years ago, but message boards are a medium for a different generation.

If we were having these conversations on Instagram or Twitter that's a different story. 07-coffee3
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(07-07-2022 12:03 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  I’m hoping that Emoni will convince his former high school teammate WMUs Javaughn Hannah from OLSM to transfer to EMU after this season.
Former teammate? Did Hannah play at Ypsi Prep?
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I think Steve’s comparison with the ‘95/96 squad is very appropriate for the current make up of this years team. Not exact, but very comparable…

95/96 backcourt: Earl Boykins, Derrick Dial, and Brian Tolbert. Boykins (SI cover and NBA career). Dial (short career in the NBA). Tolbert (No NBA, but might have been the best of the three).

22/23 backcourt: Emoni (SI cover, and almost certain to be drafted on basis of potential/notoriety alone). Noah (probably has more notoriety than Dial ever did, we’ll see if he can make his way into the League too). Noah/Emoni duo have the POTENTIAL to be better than Boykins/Dial duo. But none of Acuff,, Rice, Luka, or Lovejoy have the potential to play at Brian Tolbert’s caliber.

95/96 frontcourt: Theron Wilson and James Head who both were set to play at high majors but due to academic issues ended up at EMU. And decent depth with Torrey Mills, Nchyche Izugwu, and Jon Zajac.

22/23 frontcourt: Billingsley and Legend both attended high majors before transferring to EMU, but much less experienced and proven. Conversely, the stock of Golson, Randle, and Jihad might provide better depth.

Overall, I would say the 95/96 team was better. But this year’s team could prove me wrong. Remember, that 95/96 team was ranked top 25 for a portion of that year, beat and competed with the high majors, and should’ve made the sweet 16.
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(07-08-2022 10:54 AM)truEMU07 Wrote:  
(07-08-2022 10:29 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  
(07-08-2022 09:35 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(07-08-2022 08:54 AM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(07-08-2022 07:40 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Super, I think you are right, although maybe for the wrong reasons.

We presume Emoni will be here for a year before going to the NBA. What effects does he have for 2023 and beyond? Those signing for 2023 probably won't be a teammate of Emoni.

Emoni can recruit current (2022) transfers.

OTOH, the key is NOAH. He has I think 3 years of elig. left. He can 'recruit' for this year, next year, the year after next year, etc.

Players want to be on a winning program (think Fab 5) and if they see a superstar or two they see a big opportunity. What MAC program has Noah and Emoni?

If a player is transferring, EMU is suddenly much more attractive... 03-idea

Super is totally right on this one.

EMU is very fortunate to have 2 former 5 star recruits on the team- and was due partly to unusual circumstances (one had a brother here, the other was born here) and partly due to each needing to redeem their freshman year.

This is a great situation, but what does it really translate to? There are a couple of unproven 3 stars in Legend and Billingsley in the frontcourt. And not to overlook Golson (or Randle and Jihad for that matter). Depending on how things pan out, this frontcourt may dominate the MAC, but might come up short against the majors when they go up against UM’s Dickinson as an example.

Expectations should be MAC favorites/champions at the low end, with a win or two in the tourney at the high end. This is a reasonable range to expect, imo. But they might not achieve that, will have to wait to see.

Exceeding those expectations would be a pleasant surprise especially without an additional piece like Keyontae Johnson or a top center. Neither of which I am expecting to come here at this point.

You're saying you agree with Super but I tell you I agree with you that we should be MAC champions and hopefully get a good seed in the NCAA tourney. Point of reference, in 1996 EMU was a #9 seed and beat #8 Duke. There is a surprise team or teams each year. EMU????

As far as Noah and Emoni, I'd 'rather be lucky than good.' In basketball UNLIKE CFB, a school can get lucky (lower case, not Luckey 03-lmfao) and ride it as long as possible.

Howard had Makur Maker their 5 star center but Covid wiped out their season and he didn't want to risk not being able to play in 2021/2 if another round of Covid came (and it did, Omicron). So Lady Luck rained on their parade. Such is life.

Like many have been saying, if we have Noah, Emoni and possibly Keyontae, we are the 2022/23 NCAA MBB Cinderella team. Beyond that, only God knows and he doesn't post here.

It's just that most of you are sounding like his father. Believe me many players read these posts. Just saying. 07-coffee3

LOL cmon Carl. Players are not reading these message boards. Guess what they don't care about? What we think of them. Guess what they care even less about? Message boards. Maybe 10 years ago, but message boards are a medium for a different generation.

If we were having these conversations on Instagram or Twitter that's a different story. 07-coffee3

You'd be surprised. 07-coffee3
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(07-08-2022 01:19 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  I think Steve’s comparison with the ‘95/96 squad is very appropriate for the current make up of this years team. Not exact, but very comparable…

95/96 backcourt: Earl Boykins, Derrick Dial, and Brian Tolbert. Boykins (SI cover and NBA career). Dial (short career in the NBA). Tolbert (No NBA, but might have been the best of the three).

22/23 backcourt: Emoni (SI cover, and almost certain to be drafted on basis of potential/notoriety alone). Noah (probably has more notoriety than Dial ever did, we’ll see if he can make his way into the League too). Noah/Emoni duo have the POTENTIAL to be better than Boykins/Dial duo. But none of Acuff,, Rice, Luka, or Lovejoy have the potential to play at Brian Tolbert’s caliber.

95/96 frontcourt: Theron Wilson and James Head who both were set to play at high majors but due to academic issues ended up at EMU. And decent depth with Torrey Mills, Nchyche Izugwu, and Jon Zajac.

22/23 frontcourt: Billingsley and Legend both attended high majors before transferring to EMU, but much less experienced and proven. Conversely, the stock of Golson, Randle, and Jihad might provide better depth.

Overall, I would say the 95/96 team was better. But this year’s team could prove me wrong. Remember, that 95/96 team was ranked top 25 for a portion of that year, beat and competed with the high majors, and should’ve made the sweet 16.

I like your analysis.

I would add: The 1995/96 had Theron Wilson, a real presence at center which the 2022/23 team doesn't have.

OTOH, IF we can get Keytonae Johnson, that trio, unbelievably, could be better than Boykins, Tolbert, and Dial.

I did see a write-up on Keytonae and he flat out can play. I don't know how opponents defend Noah, Emoni and Keytonae. Maybe UofM, MSU, etc. can match up against them but then again UofM and MSU aren't representative of 360 D-I teams. If our 'big 3' match up man for man with UofM, then March can be fun again in Ypsilanti.
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(07-08-2022 01:48 PM)emu steve Wrote:  I like your analysis.

I would add: The 1995/96 had Theron Wilson, a real presence at center which the 2022/23 team doesn't have.

OTOH, IF we can get Keytonae Johnson, that trio, unbelievably, could be better than Boykins, Tolbert, and Dial.

I did see a write-up on Keytonae and he flat out can play. I don't know how opponents defend Noah, Emoni and Keytonae. Maybe UofM, MSU, etc. can match up against them but then again UofM and MSU aren't representative of 360 D-I teams. If our 'big 3' match up man for man with UofM, then March can be fun again in Ypsilanti.

That is a very good point that Wilson was a true center. While this years team might have a comparable frontcourt, but clearly no true center and will have to “committee” that role as you say.

If Johnson joined the team, it would require a re-analys. But not going to analyze a “forum fantasy” as you say.
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(07-08-2022 02:00 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(07-08-2022 01:48 PM)emu steve Wrote:  I like your analysis.

I would add: The 1995/96 had Theron Wilson, a real presence at center which the 2022/23 team doesn't have.

OTOH, IF we can get Keytonae Johnson, that trio, unbelievably, could be better than Boykins, Tolbert, and Dial.

I did see a write-up on Keytonae and he flat out can play. I don't know how opponents defend Noah, Emoni and Keytonae. Maybe UofM, MSU, etc. can match up against them but then again UofM and MSU aren't representative of 360 D-I teams. If our 'big 3' match up man for man with UofM, then March can be fun again in Ypsilanti.

That is a very good point that Wilson was a true center. While this years team might have a comparable frontcourt, but clearly no true center and will have to “committee” that role as you say.

If Johnson joined the team, it would require a re-analys. But not going to analyze a “forum fantasy” as you say.

If Johnson joins the team, we might play Paul Westhead ball. Run, run, and run some more.

Noah, Tyson, Emoni and Keytonie can all run. Add a center who can run some and this is a team will which run other teams into the ground.
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(07-08-2022 01:48 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(07-08-2022 01:19 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  I think Steve’s comparison with the ‘95/96 squad is very appropriate for the current make up of this years team. Not exact, but very comparable…

95/96 backcourt: Earl Boykins, Derrick Dial, and Brian Tolbert. Boykins (SI cover and NBA career). Dial (short career in the NBA). Tolbert (No NBA, but might have been the best of the three).

22/23 backcourt: Emoni (SI cover, and almost certain to be drafted on basis of potential/notoriety alone). Noah (probably has more notoriety than Dial ever did, we’ll see if he can make his way into the League too). Noah/Emoni duo have the POTENTIAL to be better than Boykins/Dial duo. But none of Acuff,, Rice, Luka, or Lovejoy have the potential to play at Brian Tolbert’s caliber.

95/96 frontcourt: Theron Wilson and James Head who both were set to play at high majors but due to academic issues ended up at EMU. And decent depth with Torrey Mills, Nchyche Izugwu, and Jon Zajac.

22/23 frontcourt: Billingsley and Legend both attended high majors before transferring to EMU, but much less experienced and proven. Conversely, the stock of Golson, Randle, and Jihad might provide better depth.

Overall, I would say the 95/96 team was better. But this year’s team could prove me wrong. Remember, that 95/96 team was ranked top 25 for a portion of that year, beat and competed with the high majors, and should’ve made the sweet 16.

I like your analysis.

I would add: The 1995/96 had Theron Wilson, a real presence at center which the 2022/23 team doesn't have.

OTOH, IF we can get Keytonae Johnson, that trio, unbelievably, could be better than Boykins, Tolbert, and Dial.

I did see a write-up on Keytonae and he flat out can play. I don't know how opponents defend Noah, Emoni and Keytonae. Maybe UofM, MSU, etc. can match up against them but then again UofM and MSU aren't representative of 360 D-I teams. If our 'big 3' match up man for man with UofM, then March can be fun again in Ypsilanti.

If EMU added Keyontae Johnson, then EMUs Noah, Bates and Johnson would be better at all three positions: Pg (Noah), Sg (Bates) and Sf (Johnson). Don’t know how we guard Dickinson but we would be hands down better at these three positions. Don’t sleep on Acuff and Golson
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(07-08-2022 07:17 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  Why are you people setting him up for failure? You people are assuming way to much!
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(07-08-2022 01:37 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  
(07-08-2022 10:54 AM)truEMU07 Wrote:  
(07-08-2022 10:29 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  
(07-08-2022 09:35 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(07-08-2022 08:54 AM)RamyEMU Wrote:  Super is totally right on this one.

EMU is very fortunate to have 2 former 5 star recruits on the team- and was due partly to unusual circumstances (one had a brother here, the other was born here) and partly due to each needing to redeem their freshman year.

This is a great situation, but what does it really translate to? There are a couple of unproven 3 stars in Legend and Billingsley in the frontcourt. And not to overlook Golson (or Randle and Jihad for that matter). Depending on how things pan out, this frontcourt may dominate the MAC, but might come up short against the majors when they go up against UM’s Dickinson as an example.

Expectations should be MAC favorites/champions at the low end, with a win or two in the tourney at the high end. This is a reasonable range to expect, imo. But they might not achieve that, will have to wait to see.

Exceeding those expectations would be a pleasant surprise especially without an additional piece like Keyontae Johnson or a top center. Neither of which I am expecting to come here at this point.

You're saying you agree with Super but I tell you I agree with you that we should be MAC champions and hopefully get a good seed in the NCAA tourney. Point of reference, in 1996 EMU was a #9 seed and beat #8 Duke. There is a surprise team or teams each year. EMU????

As far as Noah and Emoni, I'd 'rather be lucky than good.' In basketball UNLIKE CFB, a school can get lucky (lower case, not Luckey 03-lmfao) and ride it as long as possible.

Howard had Makur Maker their 5 star center but Covid wiped out their season and he didn't want to risk not being able to play in 2021/2 if another round of Covid came (and it did, Omicron). So Lady Luck rained on their parade. Such is life.

Like many have been saying, if we have Noah, Emoni and possibly Keyontae, we are the 2022/23 NCAA MBB Cinderella team. Beyond that, only God knows and he doesn't post here.

It's just that most of you are sounding like his father. Believe me many players read these posts. Just saying. 07-coffee3

LOL cmon Carl. Players are not reading these message boards. Guess what they don't care about? What we think of them. Guess what they care even less about? Message boards. Maybe 10 years ago, but message boards are a medium for a different generation.

If we were having these conversations on Instagram or Twitter that's a different story. 07-coffee3

You'd be surprised. 07-coffee3
Quit pretending you have insight into anything. No one's buying it. 07-coffee3
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(07-07-2022 12:03 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  I’m hoping that Emoni will convince his former high school teammate WMUs Javaughn Hannah from OLSM to transfer to EMU after this season.

Hannah could have left WMU due to coaching change. He hasn't.
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(07-08-2022 01:48 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(07-08-2022 01:19 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  I think Steve’s comparison with the ‘95/96 squad is very appropriate for the current make up of this years team. Not exact, but very comparable…

95/96 backcourt: Earl Boykins, Derrick Dial, and Brian Tolbert. Boykins (SI cover and NBA career). Dial (short career in the NBA). Tolbert (No NBA, but might have been the best of the three).

22/23 backcourt: Emoni (SI cover, and almost certain to be drafted on basis of potential/notoriety alone). Noah (probably has more notoriety than Dial ever did, we’ll see if he can make his way into the League too). Noah/Emoni duo have the POTENTIAL to be better than Boykins/Dial duo. But none of Acuff,, Rice, Luka, or Lovejoy have the potential to play at Brian Tolbert’s caliber.

95/96 frontcourt: Theron Wilson and James Head who both were set to play at high majors but due to academic issues ended up at EMU. And decent depth with Torrey Mills, Nchyche Izugwu, and Jon Zajac.

22/23 frontcourt: Billingsley and Legend both attended high majors before transferring to EMU, but much less experienced and proven. Conversely, the stock of Golson, Randle, and Jihad might provide better depth.

Overall, I would say the 95/96 team was better. But this year’s team could prove me wrong. Remember, that 95/96 team was ranked top 25 for a portion of that year, beat and competed with the high majors, and should’ve made the sweet 16.

I like your analysis.

I would add: The 1995/96 had Theron Wilson, a real presence at center which the 2022/23 team doesn't have.

OTOH, IF we can get Keytonae Johnson, that trio, unbelievably, could be better than Boykins, Tolbert, and Dial.

I did see a write-up on Keytonae and he flat out can play. I don't know how opponents defend Noah, Emoni and Keytonae. Maybe UofM, MSU, etc. can match up against them but then again UofM and MSU aren't representative of 360 D-I teams. If our 'big 3' match up man for man with UofM, then March can be fun again in Ypsilanti.

Personally, I think Ramy nailed it. Our upcoming team now has the potential to only restore where EMU and the MAC once was. We forgot how good our program was in the past and when Stan got Kent St in the Elite Eight and Ben got us in the Sweet Sixteen. Recently we have become accustomed to celebrating to MAC wins in the first round of the NCAA such as the ones by Buffalo and Ohio.
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