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(07-26-2022 07:28 AM)AlphaFlash Wrote:  

(07-25-2022 07:29 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(07-25-2022 06:28 PM)Older and Older Wrote:  

(07-25-2022 03:27 PM)Proud pilot Wrote:  Over the years no funds for stadium improvements. Presently spending $6.5 million to convert ice skating arena to indoor practice facility for the Marching Band. Another example of the clueless administration.

Agree, a travesty. Diacon wants to grow the Marching Band , lots of ways to do that. Find them an hour or two a few times /week in Fieldhouse.

The $6.5 million could have been used as “seed” money for MAC center overhaul. One of the 10 oldest D1, Basketball facilities in the USA.
State will not authorize funds for state Universities for anything but classrooms, labs or HVAC and maintenance in existing buildings .
Unless one of us wins lottery , most of us wont live to see a new facility.

Dix Stadium has also become an embarrassment. Yellow HS grandstand
for student section is one of the worst looking “improvement” ever.
It may be functional but makes the stadium look awful.

Agree with all of that, it’s a crying shame what’s been going on.

All-y'all are wrong.
A marching band is the biggest student organization and the second largest recruiting tool at any university's disposal nationwide, next to football. A university's marching band is to be considered "strong" when it is 1% of a school's total enrollment (including all branches and grad programs). -In Kent's terms, we should have a band of 300.- Our marching band is barely keeping up with Akron. They currently practice on a field that is less than 100 yards and next to a highway.
T/F College marching bands only have music majors. FALSE
College marching bands are mostly made of non-music majors. (RECRUITING) And students travel to the Main Campus that attend regional campuses.
Now that I'm done with the stats for your @ss...
Our past 4 presidents have crapped on the MGF. Carol tried to eliminate the marching band. (Read some of Alumnus Tom Batuik's comics.) In 2019 Warren told the band that they wouldn't go to the bowl game if it was in Idaho or Bahamas.
The MGF has had a new director averaging every 5 years since 1995. Mostly because of facilities, lack of support staff, and non-tenure. The students get 1 class credit for 6 hours of class/practice time. (Not including games or the nights they walk around campus and Downtown before home games.)
MGF's facility... I touched on the field, let's look at CPA. Specifically, the band's practice room, E112. Max capacity 75 people. Projected band enrollment: 175. (Was below 100 pre-pandemic.)
Dix Stadium.... Has anyone gone to a game at OU? I believe some of y'all get envy over Akron for their stadium that the ABJ does a write-up on every 2 years about how the university wasted so much money. A boss I used to work for always says, "no matter how much you polish a horse turd, it's still a horse turd."
Investing the MGF IS an investment in the university. It is a tool. Is anyone sick of hearing about TBDBITL? I am. Is anyone sick of hearing about OU's band? I am.
You want an ice rink? The 80's called, they want their sport back.

"A Marching Band is the University second biggest recruiting tool"?
What you are saying more of recruiting tool than.
Academic programs.
Facilities -both residential and academic.
Location of school.
???
In my opinion in no order the most famous college marching bands.
Alabama-Millionaire Band
Wisconsin-Famous for 5th Quarter routine.
USC-Uniforms and music.
Ohio State-Dotting of the "I".
Common factor strong football programs brought fans to the stands and over time appreciation for the bands.
What has me upset the upgrades to the indoor facility and weight room the last couple of years 100% private funding. Why because "Kent State doesn't have the money to upgrade facilities". $6.5 million for a marching band facility, take 15% of that amount $ one million for upgrades to Dix Stadium and a lot of alumni/fans would be happy. Guess that thinking isn't in line with our University President vision and after all this is his kingdom of Kent and we are only his minions.

(07-26-2022 10:23 AM)Proud pilot Wrote:  

(07-26-2022 07:28 AM)AlphaFlash Wrote:  

(07-25-2022 07:29 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(07-25-2022 06:28 PM)Older and Older Wrote:  

(07-25-2022 03:27 PM)Proud pilot Wrote:  Over the years no funds for stadium improvements. Presently spending $6.5 million to convert ice skating arena to indoor practice facility for the Marching Band. Another example of the clueless administration.

Agree, a travesty. Diacon wants to grow the Marching Band , lots of ways to do that. Find them an hour or two a few times /week in Fieldhouse.

The $6.5 million could have been used as “seed” money for MAC center overhaul. One of the 10 oldest D1, Basketball facilities in the USA.
State will not authorize funds for state Universities for anything but classrooms, labs or HVAC and maintenance in existing buildings .
Unless one of us wins lottery , most of us wont live to see a new facility.

Dix Stadium has also become an embarrassment. Yellow HS grandstand
for student section is one of the worst looking “improvement” ever.
It may be functional but makes the stadium look awful.

Agree with all of that, it’s a crying shame what’s been going on.

All-y'all are wrong.
A marching band is the biggest student organization and the second largest recruiting tool at any university's disposal nationwide, next to football. A university's marching band is to be considered "strong" when it is 1% of a school's total enrollment (including all branches and grad programs). -In Kent's terms, we should have a band of 300.- Our marching band is barely keeping up with Akron. They currently practice on a field that is less than 100 yards and next to a highway.
T/F College marching bands only have music majors. FALSE
College marching bands are mostly made of non-music majors. (RECRUITING) And students travel to the Main Campus that attend regional campuses.
Now that I'm done with the stats for your @ss...
Our past 4 presidents have crapped on the MGF. Carol tried to eliminate the marching band. (Read some of Alumnus Tom Batuik's comics.) In 2019 Warren told the band that they wouldn't go to the bowl game if it was in Idaho or Bahamas.
The MGF has had a new director averaging every 5 years since 1995. Mostly because of facilities, lack of support staff, and non-tenure. The students get 1 class credit for 6 hours of class/practice time. (Not including games or the nights they walk around campus and Downtown before home games.)
MGF's facility... I touched on the field, let's look at CPA. Specifically, the band's practice room, E112. Max capacity 75 people. Projected band enrollment: 175. (Was below 100 pre-pandemic.)
Dix Stadium.... Has anyone gone to a game at OU? I believe some of y'all get envy over Akron for their stadium that the ABJ does a write-up on every 2 years about how the university wasted so much money. A boss I used to work for always says, "no matter how much you polish a horse turd, it's still a horse turd."
Investing the MGF IS an investment in the university. It is a tool. Is anyone sick of hearing about TBDBITL? I am. Is anyone sick of hearing about OU's band? I am.
You want an ice rink? The 80's called, they want their sport back.

"A Marching Band is the University second biggest recruiting tool"?
What you are saying more of recruiting tool than.
Academic programs.
Facilities -both residential and academic.
Location of school.
???

What has me upset the upgrades to the indoor facility and weight room the last couple of years 100% private funding. Why because "Kent State doesn't have the money to upgrade facilities". $6.5 million for a marching band facility, take 15% of that amount $ one million for upgrades to Dix Stadium and a lot of alumni/fans would be happy. Guess that thinking isn't in line with our University President vision and after all this is his kingdom of Kent and we are only his minions.

To answer all of the above, yes. A strong college marching band is a bigger recruiting tool. That's an average compared to colleges nationwide. Sure, it might be lower or higher in some schools. Nonetheless, if you have a D1 college and a marching band of 85, it looks pitiful.
Since you mentioned funding, the Marching Band is an academic class.

Not sure how, but the Tweeter in Charge has a banner year fundraising:

https://kentstatesports.com/news/2022/8/...-year.aspx

(Yesterday 11:55 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Not sure how, but the Tweeter in Charge has a banner year fundraising:

https://kentstatesports.com/news/2022/8/...-year.aspx

You did see him and his family are in Australia? I wonder who flipped the bill for that trip? Guy won't show his face at Dix stadium, but he flies to Australia?

He has a lot of nerve, embarrassing the posters on this board by doing a record job fundraising.

I’d assume he’s in Australia with the mens basketball team.

(Yesterday 11:55 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Not sure how, but the Tweeter in Charge has a banner year fundraising:

https://kentstatesports.com/news/2022/8/...-year.aspx

Just remember alot of times #'s dont always tell the full story. Every business is showing positive comparables from the covid 20 or 21 years, unless you sold masks or sanitizers. I'll still trust the feelings on this board and what i see with my own 2 eyes on the engagement of donors at events than what spin on the #'s might be trying to sell.

(Today 09:38 AM)ksu315 Wrote:  

(Yesterday 11:55 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Not sure how, but the Tweeter in Charge has a banner year fundraising:

https://kentstatesports.com/news/2022/8/...-year.aspx

Just remember alot of times #'s dont always tell the full story. Every business is showing positive comparables from the covid 20 or 21 years, unless you sold masks or sanitizers. I'll still trust the feelings on this board and what i see with my own 2 eyes on the engagement of donors at events than what spin on the #'s might be trying to sell.

Exactly, which is why I said not sure how. I can see being better than 20-21 but they claim it’s better than the last 6-7 years. Guessing they found a couple big corporate donors to inflate the overall, because all the feedback I get on individuals is it’s fading.