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(07-26-2022 07:28 AM)AlphaFlash Wrote:  
(07-25-2022 07:29 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  
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(07-25-2022 03:27 PM)Proud pilot Wrote:  Over the years no funds for stadium improvements. Presently spending $6.5 million to convert ice skating arena to indoor practice facility for the Marching Band. Another example of the clueless administration.

Agree, a travesty. Diacon wants to grow the Marching Band , lots of ways to do that. Find them an hour or two a few times /week in Fieldhouse.

The $6.5 million could have been used as “seed” money for MAC center overhaul. One of the 10 oldest D1, Basketball facilities in the USA.
State will not authorize funds for state Universities for anything but classrooms, labs or HVAC and maintenance in existing buildings .
Unless one of us wins lottery , most of us wont live to see a new facility.

Dix Stadium has also become an embarrassment. Yellow HS grandstand
for student section is one of the worst looking “improvement” ever.
It may be functional but makes the stadium look awful.
Agree with all of that, it’s a crying shame what’s been going on.

All-y'all are wrong.
A marching band is the biggest student organization and the second largest recruiting tool at any university's disposal nationwide, next to football. A university's marching band is to be considered "strong" when it is 1% of a school's total enrollment (including all branches and grad programs). -In Kent's terms, we should have a band of 300.- Our marching band is barely keeping up with Akron. They currently practice on a field that is less than 100 yards and next to a highway.
T/F College marching bands only have music majors. FALSE
College marching bands are mostly made of non-music majors. (RECRUITING) And students travel to the Main Campus that attend regional campuses.
Now that I'm done with the stats for your @ss...
Our past 4 presidents have crapped on the MGF. Carol tried to eliminate the marching band. (Read some of Alumnus Tom Batuik's comics.) In 2019 Warren told the band that they wouldn't go to the bowl game if it was in Idaho or Bahamas.
The MGF has had a new director averaging every 5 years since 1995. Mostly because of facilities, lack of support staff, and non-tenure. The students get 1 class credit for 6 hours of class/practice time. (Not including games or the nights they walk around campus and Downtown before home games.)
MGF's facility... I touched on the field, let's look at CPA. Specifically, the band's practice room, E112. Max capacity 75 people. Projected band enrollment: 175. (Was below 100 pre-pandemic.)
Dix Stadium.... Has anyone gone to a game at OU? I believe some of y'all get envy over Akron for their stadium that the ABJ does a write-up on every 2 years about how the university wasted so much money. A boss I used to work for always says, "no matter how much you polish a horse turd, it's still a horse turd."
Investing the MGF IS an investment in the university. It is a tool. Is anyone sick of hearing about TBDBITL? I am. Is anyone sick of hearing about OU's band? I am.
You want an ice rink? The 80's called, they want their sport back.
"A Marching Band is the University second biggest recruiting tool"?
What you are saying more of recruiting tool than.
Academic programs.
Facilities -both residential and academic.
Location of school.
???
In my opinion in no order the most famous college marching bands.
Alabama-Millionaire Band
Wisconsin-Famous for 5th Quarter routine.
USC-Uniforms and music.
Ohio State-Dotting of the "I".
Common factor strong football programs brought fans to the stands and over time appreciation for the bands.
What has me upset the upgrades to the indoor facility and weight room the last couple of years 100% private funding. Why because "Kent State doesn't have the money to upgrade facilities". $6.5 million for a marching band facility, take 15% of that amount $ one million for upgrades to Dix Stadium and a lot of alumni/fans would be happy. Guess that thinking isn't in line with our University President vision and after all this is his kingdom of Kent and we are only his minions.
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RE: Kent State Athletics leader Randale Richmond discusses national, MAC issues
(07-26-2022 10:23 AM)Proud pilot Wrote:  
(07-26-2022 07:28 AM)AlphaFlash Wrote:  
(07-25-2022 07:29 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  
(07-25-2022 06:28 PM)Older and Older Wrote:  
(07-25-2022 03:27 PM)Proud pilot Wrote:  Over the years no funds for stadium improvements. Presently spending $6.5 million to convert ice skating arena to indoor practice facility for the Marching Band. Another example of the clueless administration.

Agree, a travesty. Diacon wants to grow the Marching Band , lots of ways to do that. Find them an hour or two a few times /week in Fieldhouse.

The $6.5 million could have been used as “seed” money for MAC center overhaul. One of the 10 oldest D1, Basketball facilities in the USA.
State will not authorize funds for state Universities for anything but classrooms, labs or HVAC and maintenance in existing buildings .
Unless one of us wins lottery , most of us wont live to see a new facility.

Dix Stadium has also become an embarrassment. Yellow HS grandstand
for student section is one of the worst looking “improvement” ever.
It may be functional but makes the stadium look awful.
Agree with all of that, it’s a crying shame what’s been going on.

All-y'all are wrong.
A marching band is the biggest student organization and the second largest recruiting tool at any university's disposal nationwide, next to football. A university's marching band is to be considered "strong" when it is 1% of a school's total enrollment (including all branches and grad programs). -In Kent's terms, we should have a band of 300.- Our marching band is barely keeping up with Akron. They currently practice on a field that is less than 100 yards and next to a highway.
T/F College marching bands only have music majors. FALSE
College marching bands are mostly made of non-music majors. (RECRUITING) And students travel to the Main Campus that attend regional campuses.
Now that I'm done with the stats for your @ss...
Our past 4 presidents have crapped on the MGF. Carol tried to eliminate the marching band. (Read some of Alumnus Tom Batuik's comics.) In 2019 Warren told the band that they wouldn't go to the bowl game if it was in Idaho or Bahamas.
The MGF has had a new director averaging every 5 years since 1995. Mostly because of facilities, lack of support staff, and non-tenure. The students get 1 class credit for 6 hours of class/practice time. (Not including games or the nights they walk around campus and Downtown before home games.)
MGF's facility... I touched on the field, let's look at CPA. Specifically, the band's practice room, E112. Max capacity 75 people. Projected band enrollment: 175. (Was below 100 pre-pandemic.)
Dix Stadium.... Has anyone gone to a game at OU? I believe some of y'all get envy over Akron for their stadium that the ABJ does a write-up on every 2 years about how the university wasted so much money. A boss I used to work for always says, "no matter how much you polish a horse turd, it's still a horse turd."
Investing the MGF IS an investment in the university. It is a tool. Is anyone sick of hearing about TBDBITL? I am. Is anyone sick of hearing about OU's band? I am.
You want an ice rink? The 80's called, they want their sport back.
"A Marching Band is the University second biggest recruiting tool"?
What you are saying more of recruiting tool than.
Academic programs.
Facilities -both residential and academic.
Location of school.
???

What has me upset the upgrades to the indoor facility and weight room the last couple of years 100% private funding. Why because "Kent State doesn't have the money to upgrade facilities". $6.5 million for a marching band facility, take 15% of that amount $ one million for upgrades to Dix Stadium and a lot of alumni/fans would be happy. Guess that thinking isn't in line with our University President vision and after all this is his kingdom of Kent and we are only his minions.

To answer all of the above, yes. A strong college marching band is a bigger recruiting tool. That's an average compared to colleges nationwide. Sure, it might be lower or higher in some schools. Nonetheless, if you have a D1 college and a marching band of 85, it looks pitiful.
Since you mentioned funding, the Marching Band is an academic class.
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Not sure how, but the Tweeter in Charge has a banner year fundraising:

https://kentstatesports.com/news/2022/8/...-year.aspx
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(08-09-2022 11:55 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Not sure how, but the Tweeter in Charge has a banner year fundraising:

https://kentstatesports.com/news/2022/8/...-year.aspx

You did see him and his family are in Australia? I wonder who flipped the bill for that trip? Guy won't show his face at Dix stadium, but he flies to Australia?
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He has a lot of nerve, embarrassing the posters on this board by doing a record job fundraising.
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I’d assume he’s in Australia with the mens basketball team.
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(08-09-2022 11:55 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Not sure how, but the Tweeter in Charge has a banner year fundraising:

https://kentstatesports.com/news/2022/8/...-year.aspx

Just remember alot of times #'s dont always tell the full story. Every business is showing positive comparables from the covid 20 or 21 years, unless you sold masks or sanitizers. I'll still trust the feelings on this board and what i see with my own 2 eyes on the engagement of donors at events than what spin on the #'s might be trying to sell.
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(08-10-2022 09:38 AM)ksu315 Wrote:  
(08-09-2022 11:55 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Not sure how, but the Tweeter in Charge has a banner year fundraising:

https://kentstatesports.com/news/2022/8/...-year.aspx

Just remember alot of times #'s dont always tell the full story. Every business is showing positive comparables from the covid 20 or 21 years, unless you sold masks or sanitizers. I'll still trust the feelings on this board and what i see with my own 2 eyes on the engagement of donors at events than what spin on the #'s might be trying to sell.
Exactly, which is why I said not sure how. I can see being better than 20-21 but they claim it’s better than the last 6-7 years. Guessing they found a couple big corporate donors to inflate the overall, because all the feedback I get on individuals is it’s fading.
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(08-10-2022 09:38 AM)ksu315 Wrote:  
(08-09-2022 11:55 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Not sure how, but the Tweeter in Charge has a banner year fundraising:

https://kentstatesports.com/news/2022/8/...-year.aspx

Just remember alot of times #'s dont always tell the full story. Every business is showing positive comparables from the covid 20 or 21 years, unless you sold masks or sanitizers. I'll still trust the feelings on this board and what i see with my own 2 eyes on the engagement of donors at events than what spin on the #'s might be trying to sell.

That is 100% false.
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(08-10-2022 08:20 PM)goldenflash99 Wrote:  
(08-10-2022 09:38 AM)ksu315 Wrote:  
(08-09-2022 11:55 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Not sure how, but the Tweeter in Charge has a banner year fundraising:

https://kentstatesports.com/news/2022/8/...-year.aspx

Just remember alot of times #'s dont always tell the full story. Every business is showing positive comparables from the covid 20 or 21 years, unless you sold masks or sanitizers. I'll still trust the feelings on this board and what i see with my own 2 eyes on the engagement of donors at events than what spin on the #'s might be trying to sell.

That is 100% false.

Hammer , again I agree with your sentiments 110%. Something is mighty fishy. They also don’t count the number of disgruntled donors they have sent packing. Also I personally know 1/2 dozen people that have pulled significant 6 figure pledges or moved them to other areas of the University.

The University has been allowing endowments committed to Athletics to be transferred to School of Fashion Design , Nursing, Business etc. We know folks that have done this and are seriously considering doing the same.

AD can preach his sermons but some are not buying. Many alienated by previous AD are still on the sidelines or have moved on.
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Gotta say... Patting yourself on the back about how great you're doing with fund raising at the same time articles like this are going around is not a great look. I realize the schedule was made by Neilsen but still.

https://brobible.com/sports/article/reac...-football/
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(08-13-2022 12:06 AM)anti-zip Wrote:  Gotta say... Patting yourself on the back about how great you're doing with fund raising at the same time articles like this are going around is not a great look. I realize the schedule was made by Neilsen but still.

https://brobible.com/sports/article/reac...-football/

If Kent runs the gauntlet, then they'll make the final 4. Might as well go for it. And I actually think Washington is quite beatable.
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(08-13-2022 12:54 AM)bopol Wrote:  
(08-13-2022 12:06 AM)anti-zip Wrote:  Gotta say... Patting yourself on the back about how great you're doing with fund raising at the same time articles like this are going around is not a great look. I realize the schedule was made by Neilsen but still.

https://brobible.com/sports/article/reac...-football/

If Kent runs the gauntlet, then they'll make the final 4. Might as well go for it. And I actually think Washington is quite beatable.

Washington picked right in middle of PAC 10. I have tickets for the game. Should be interesting to see if we have a defense. Offense should score points.
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I know the games were scheduled to make money but shouldn't OOC games be a challenge? I think other fan bases should be questioning why their OOC games are so easy.

Lewis seems to make those games into learning experiences as they steamroller through the conference schedule. The team seems to be getting closer to winning those games as well. Next year is setting up to be an undefeated season. So far it's UCF, Arkansas and Wagner for 2023. GT and Pitt still need another opponent for next year and both would be beatable teams like the other three.
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I don't think people are questioning Washington or three money games. I think it's scheduling two perennial NC contenders. If we're being honest with ourselves those two games are likely unwinnable. However, the point I'm making here is that we're playing the hardest OC schedule in the country, every article about it points out that it's for the money and how much we're making... Meanwhile at the same time we're patting ourselves on the back about a banner year for fundraising. If the two things are true we shouldn't have any budget concerns this year.
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The difference between the website and this board is like the difference between FoxNews and MSNBC. You just have to figure it out yourself.
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(08-13-2022 11:04 AM)ilovegymnast Wrote:  I know the games were scheduled to make money but shouldn't OOC games be a challenge? I think other fan bases should be questioning why their OOC games are so easy.

Lewis seems to make those games into learning experiences as they steamroller through the conference schedule. The team seems to be getting closer to winning those games as well. Next year is setting up to be an undefeated season. So far it's UCF, Arkansas and Wagner for 2023. GT and Pitt still need another opponent for next year and both would be beatable teams like the other three.

I think teams that think they might be able to be national contenders aren't looking to take an early loss to a top team and virtually knock themselves out of contention before the end of September (like Ohio State losing to Oregon the second week of the year), so they look for an easy OOC path. There is just so much money in making the college football playoffs that they don't want to take the risk.

And, honestly, the fan bases of these clubs really just want to win and they don't care about the level of competition. Ohio State could schedule Hiram and still get 100,000 fans at the Horseshoe for the inevitable 212-0 win.
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(08-13-2022 11:47 AM)burden Wrote:  The difference between the website and this board is like the difference between FoxNews and MSNBC. You just have to figure it out yourself.

Which is which?
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(08-13-2022 12:31 PM)bopol Wrote:  
(08-13-2022 11:47 AM)burden Wrote:  The difference between the website and this board is like the difference between FoxNews and MSNBC. You just have to figure it out yourself.

Which is which?

It doesn’t matter. What matters is if you believe what’s being said on both
You get confused.
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(08-13-2022 05:42 PM)burden Wrote:  
(08-13-2022 12:31 PM)bopol Wrote:  
(08-13-2022 11:47 AM)burden Wrote:  The difference between the website and this board is like the difference between FoxNews and MSNBC. You just have to figure it out yourself.

Which is which?

It doesn’t matter. What matters is if you believe what’s being said on both
You get confused.

That's why I get all my news from The Beaverton.
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