Quote:Joe Biden said in his angry post-Roe speech that America was now an “outlier” in the modern world due to our abortion laws. The problem is, that’s not true—or at least not in the way he meant it. While he clearly meant that our laws were way more restrictive than most countries, the only real way that we’re an outlier is that our laws are often looser.

Said Biden Friday in his remarks at the White House:

With this decision a conservative majority of the Supreme Court shows how extreme it is, how far removed from the majority of the country. They made the United States and outlier among developed nations or the world, but this decision must not be the final word.

According to Fox News though, European nations largely have abortion laws that are similar to those supported by Republican-led state governments.

Let’s look at some those countries: In Poland, abortion is only permitted in cases of rape, incest or when the mother’s life is in danger. In Ireland and Germany, abortion procedures are banned in the majority of cases after 12 weeks, Italy after just under 13 weeks, and France, Austria and Spain after 14 weeks.

Note that the Mississippi case the Court decided on, Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, concerned a ban after 15 weeks. Not so different after all.

North Korea, China, and Vietnam, meanwhile, allow abortion past 20 weeks. Great, we want to be just like autocracies like North Korea and China which aren’t exactly known for valuing human life.

Per Fox:

“Upholding laws restricting abortion on demand after 20 weeks would situate the United States closer to the international mainstream, instead of leaving it as an outlying country with ultra-permissive abortion policies,” the Charlotte Lozier Institute, a pro-life group, stated in 2014.

Poltifact disagrees, writing:

The (Supreme Court) ruling eliminates the national right to an abortion, which puts the U.S. at odds with other developed nations, including the other six G-7 nations, most of which have laws or court rulings that provide for abortion access on a national basis, though with restrictions. The U.S. ruling does leave in place state laws that permit abortion.

We rate Biden’s statement Mostly True.

There are a couple of problems with this analysis. One, Politifact makes the “mostly true” statement after sharing a long list of restrictions that other countries have in place, similar to the list I wrote above. So how are we an outlier? Two, unlike most European nations, ours is a federalist system, whereby any powers not enumerated in the constitution fall to the states. As PolitiFact notes, “the U.S. ruling does leave in place state laws that permit abortion.” In fact, states like California and New York are aiming to pass some of the most permissive abortion laws in the world. Maybe that’s where we’re an outlier.

Three, why are Leftists always pointing out that we should be more like Europe? We’re not Europe, and we don’t aspire to be. While there are some great things about it, we didn’t get to be the most powerful country in the world by emulating our friends on the Continent.

As I point out here, Biden has flip-flopped like a beached fish on abortion during his decades-long career. Nevertheless, in the aftermath of this milestone decision, Biden, Pelosi, AOC, Maxine Waters, and others are hell-bent on riling up their base and even seem to be calling for violence.

When Joe Biden calls us an outlier, he’s once again stretching the truth. Biden has always lived by the words of Mark Twain—”Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.”

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Impeachment charges need to be brought against Biden. When he says the Supreme Court's decision is not the final word, he is failing to uphold the Constitution which is an impeachable offense. I thought he was supposed to be the Great unifier?


French President Macron and Canadian Prime Minister Trudeau Denounce the U.S. Supreme Court

Quote:Quite a remarkably telling situation when the foreign leaders of France and Canada begin to think they have some political responsibility to deliver their opinions on decisions within the United States government.

Yes, their pronouncements are fraught with stupidity considering their own national laws on abortion were/are much more stringent than the United States, but that belies the point of their insufferable arrogance. The globalist outlook is structured around their own sense of importance.

The protestations from Macron are particularly ridiculous since France has a legal limit of 14 weeks for abortion [LINK].



Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, the same man who forced all women in Canada to undergo a vaccine requirement or remove themselves from society, took the hypocrisy of his own “women’s health” policy one step further than Macron.



It is worth noting, “there are currently no Canadian laws that explicitly guarantee access to abortion as a right,” [LINK] putting the recent U.S. Supreme Court ruling in the exact same place as the Canadian government position on the issue.

However, Canadians more than 23 weeks into their pregnancy cannot get abortions in Canada. Instead, according to CTV they travel into the United States to get the procedure.

“According to a study published by Action Canada for Sexual Health and Rights in 2019, no providers in Canada offer abortion services more than 23 weeks and six days into a pregnancy. Those who are this far into their pregnancy and looking for an abortion often travel to the United States for the procedure instead, which would be in jeopardy should Roe v. Wade be overturned.” (more)

Canada and France want us to kill babies.

Shocker

Biden is also an incoherent babbling retard

Indeed, we are now a global outlier on abortion policy in that only about 11 countries have restricted abortion access in the last 30 years, as we just have. We've got some stellar company, thanks GOP!

"Among the handful of states that have restricted access are long-term U.S. opponents, such as Russia, North Korea, and Iran."

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/06/24/roe...tion-laws/

We'll now end up with a patchwork of laws (at least so long as neither party gets unified control of government to ban/permit abortion federally), with some states allowing abortion on demand beyond the limits in comparable countries like Canada, Australia and Europe while some red states institute totalitarian bans where woman have fewer reproductive rights than in Saudi Arabia -

https://qz.com/1628427/saudi-arabias-abo...-alabamas/

But at least they can all drive here, the GOP wants to be sure they can get to work, to church and to the gun stores.

(06-25-2022 02:52 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  Indeed, we are now a global outlier on abortion policy in that only about 11 countries have restricted abortion access in the last 30 years, as we just have. We've got some stellar company, thanks GOP!

"Among the handful of states that have restricted access are long-term U.S. opponents, such as Russia, North Korea, and Iran."

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/06/24/roe...tion-laws/

We'll now end up with a patchwork of laws (at least so long as neither party gets unified control of government to ban/permit abortion federally), with some states allowing abortion on demand beyond the limits in comparable countries like Canada, Australia and Europe while some red states institute totalitarian bans where woman have fewer reproductive rights than in Saudi Arabia -

https://qz.com/1628427/saudi-arabias-abo...-alabamas/

But at least they can all drive here, the GOP wants to be sure they can get to work, to church and to the gun stores.

Did you read the above before posting your talking points?

Most of our states are still less restrictive than Canada.

The leftist media keeps posting things without any perspective.

Its kind of like the voting rights nonsense. MLB moved the All Star game from Georgia to Colorado because Georgia passed a law that still made it easier to vote than in Colorado, let alone New York state.

Liberals are stupid people in general. Gullible and naive. Nothing rational just all the “feels”

(06-25-2022 02:59 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-25-2022 02:52 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  Indeed, we are now a global outlier on abortion policy in that only about 11 countries have restricted abortion access in the last 30 years, as we just have. We've got some stellar company, thanks GOP!

"Among the handful of states that have restricted access are long-term U.S. opponents, such as Russia, North Korea, and Iran."

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/06/24/roe...tion-laws/

We'll now end up with a patchwork of laws (at least so long as neither party gets unified control of government to ban/permit abortion federally), with some states allowing abortion on demand beyond the limits in comparable countries like Canada, Australia and Europe while some red states institute totalitarian bans where woman have fewer reproductive rights than in Saudi Arabia -

https://qz.com/1628427/saudi-arabias-abo...-alabamas/

But at least they can all drive here, the GOP wants to be sure they can get to work, to church and to the gun stores.

Did you read the above before posting your talking points?

Most of our states are still less restrictive than Canada.

The leftist media keeps posting things without any perspective.

And the loons lap it up as gospel.

(06-25-2022 03:21 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Liberals are stupid people in general. Gullible and naive. Nothing rational just all the “feels”

It has to hurt being educated and still stupid.

(06-25-2022 03:21 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Liberals are stupid people in general. Gullible and naive. Nothing rational just all the “feels”

...and some of them even pray to their dead mother. LOL

True story and that's what makes it sad.

(06-25-2022 02:52 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  Indeed, we are now a global outlier on abortion policy in that only about 11 countries have restricted abortion access in the last 30 years, as we just have. We've got some stellar company, thanks GOP!

"Among the handful of states that have restricted access are long-term U.S. opponents, such as Russia, North Korea, and Iran."

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/06/24/roe...tion-laws/

We'll now end up with a patchwork of laws (at least so long as neither party gets unified control of government to ban/permit abortion federally), with some states allowing abortion on demand beyond the limits in comparable countries like Canada, Australia and Europe while some red states institute totalitarian bans where woman have fewer reproductive rights than in Saudi Arabia -

https://qz.com/1628427/saudi-arabias-abo...-alabamas/

But at least they can all drive here, the GOP wants to be sure they can get to work, to church and to the gun stores.

Mandatory IUDs now!!!!!!! Health crisis averted.



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