(06-24-2022 01:32 PM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  

(06-14-2022 08:23 PM)Yosef181 Wrote:  If the projections are correct, we'll have a P2 in 10 years, not a P4 or P5.

What conference(s) will Notre Dame, Southern Cal and North Carolina belong to in 10 years?

Well, Southern Cal will belong to the Big Ten.

(06-30-2022 05:21 PM)JSchmack Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 03:25 PM)JSchmack Wrote:  I don't think it CAN happen with the Pac-12 or Big 12 getting butchered

Well this incredible take was right for all of six days.

It’s ok, a lot of us have scores of posts that haven’t aged well over the last 5 hrs or so.

I feel like Chidi on the Good Place looking at the I in Jeremy Bearimy right now.

(06-30-2022 05:23 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  

(06-30-2022 05:21 PM)JSchmack Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 03:25 PM)JSchmack Wrote:  I don't think it CAN happen with the Pac-12 or Big 12 getting butchered

Well this incredible take was right for all of six days.

It’s ok, a lot of us have scores of posts that haven’t aged well over the last 5 hrs or so.

lol no kidding.

makes wonder what's next. this is likely to stir the pot quite a bit

(06-14-2022 04:50 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  For years we’ve talked about a P4 but I’ve concluded that there will never be a P4.

For there to be a P4, the others would have to gobble up the majority of one of the weaker leagues. If this was going to happen, the prime time for that to happen was after the Texas/Oklahoma SEC announcement yet the others passed on the remaining 8.

Kansas is probably the only Big 12 school left that holds any interest to the Big 10 or SEC. While the PAC 12 has talked about a CTZ foothold the institutional and cultural differences proved to be a bridge too far and I’m guessing the money isn’t there.

The ACC Is locked into that meddlesome GOR so they aren’t a good candidate to be dissolved. While it’s feasible that it’s members could be dispersed across the Big 10, SEC, and Big 12 the power structure would be more akin to a Power 2 (SEC, Big 10) and then 2 leagues (PAC 12 and Big 12) who are a significant step down.

Dissolving the Pac 12 has geography working against us. Even if there was a scenario where the Big 10 cherry picked the PAC 12 and what was left merged into the Big 12 this would undoubtedly spur the SEC to raid the ACC in response and again, the end result is a Power 2 and then 2 lesser leagues.

The power dynamics just don’t lend themselves to a P4.

This thread has not aged well.

(06-30-2022 07:05 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(06-14-2022 04:50 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  For years we’ve talked about a P4 but I’ve concluded that there will never be a P4.

For there to be a P4, the others would have to gobble up the majority of one of the weaker leagues. If this was going to happen, the prime time for that to happen was after the Texas/Oklahoma SEC announcement yet the others passed on the remaining 8.

Kansas is probably the only Big 12 school left that holds any interest to the Big 10 or SEC. While the PAC 12 has talked about a CTZ foothold the institutional and cultural differences proved to be a bridge too far and I’m guessing the money isn’t there.

The ACC Is locked into that meddlesome GOR so they aren’t a good candidate to be dissolved. While it’s feasible that it’s members could be dispersed across the Big 10, SEC, and Big 12 the power structure would be more akin to a Power 2 (SEC, Big 10) and then 2 leagues (PAC 12 and Big 12) who are a significant step down.

Dissolving the Pac 12 has geography working against us. Even if there was a scenario where the Big 10 cherry picked the PAC 12 and what was left merged into the Big 12 this would undoubtedly spur the SEC to raid the ACC in response and again, the end result is a Power 2 and then 2 lesser leagues.

The power dynamics just don’t lend themselves to a P4.

This thread has not aged well.

Not so fast, my friend. Today’s news *might* lead us to a P4, but more likely toward a P2, as the OP hinted.

Every time someone started talking about the Big 12 inevitably being picked apart for a P4, I pointed out the most likely way to a P4 was the Big 10 swallowing large chunks of the Pac 12. Lots of people thought that was ridiculous. I didn't think it was probable, but it was certainly possible.