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RE: College Football Fan Map
(Today 12:50 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  
(06-27-2022 05:04 AM)nodak651 Wrote:  
(06-24-2022 11:23 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  
(06-24-2022 10:12 PM)jimrtex Wrote:  
(06-24-2022 12:19 AM)nodak651 Wrote:  You're welcome __> https://twitter.com/SkullSparks/status/1...Mk1bw&s=19
Top G5:

43 Boise State
59 USF
62 Appy State
63 Navy
65 Wyoming
68 Army
71 Temple
72 WMU
76 Fresno State
77 Colorado State

Bottom P5:

73 Northwestern
74 Boston College
75 Cal
85 Vanderbilt
86 Wake Forest

Navy and Appy State replace BC and Wake Forest in ACC
Boise State replaces Cal in Pac 12
USF replaces Vanderbilt in SEC (or UCF to SEC and USF to B12)
Wyoming moves to B12, Iowa State to B1G replacing Northwestern

I've been working on a project combining the fans for college football, college basketball, and college baseball on social media. I looked at one that supposedly combined it, but I could tell by looking at it that it was wrong. My project has been very eye-opening to me, and I'm only halfway done!!! (have to take a break. My eyes are hurting from looking and copying all of that data!! I tried to do cut and paste, but it wouldn't let me).
You should consider adding hockey to offset southern baseball bias. Especially if you want to see whole picture.. might be surprised there as well. For example, looking at twitter, this is a list of schools that have more hockey twitter followers than basketball twitter followers: Penn State, Boston College, Minnesota, UMass, Bowling Green, Western Michigan, Miami, and probably all of the other non FBS D1 schools. North Dakota hockey has more twitter followers than many P5 football programs..

DawgNBama, for your project, are you combining total followers of the programs or is it more elaborate than that? Guessing there isn't a way to avoid duplicating fans who follow two or more programs at the same school? I suppose if fans are double or triple counted because they follow multiple sports, it would give more weight to schools that have a more passionate fan base as whole, which isn't necessarily a bad thing either.

Yes, my plan is to combine total followers of programs, but I ran into a rather interesting problem. While SkullSparks Analytics does not have a database of college hockey followers, they do have a database of college hockey interactions. They also do the same for lacrosse.

In addition, in a my project, I have focused on male sports teams, but there is data on some female sports teams too, and I may go back and add that also later.

Nodak, I will include college hockey interactions on a separate table with my overall follower data. I really don't know how to combine it my main project since my project is looking at audience size and not how many interactions they have had, so that's why I'm putting it as a separate table. I could change my mind though, and actually look up the top 50 college hockey program followers the old fashioned way, but that would only be for Twitter.

If you are planning to publicly release your findings, I'd be willing to track that info down for you. If you're interested, PM me with the info and format you would like and I could throw it on an excel doc or something.
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Post: #42
RE: College Football Fan Map
(06-24-2022 12:19 AM)nodak651 Wrote:  
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(06-22-2022 02:58 PM)Yosef181 Wrote:  
(06-22-2022 02:45 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  What do you mean? This map is obviously saying that NDSU, SDSU, Maine, Delaware, Idaho, and Montana are many many many times more popular than a small insignificant team like Cincinnati.

You're right, silly me. According to OP's logic, Maine, SDSU, and Montana are more popular than Louisville, Auburn, and Ole Miss because of this map. What a revelation! Someone call ESPN.

It's on the internets so it's true.

[Image: gwUShieh.jpg]

NOTE: Being the most popular team in a sparsely populated county doesn't mean you lots of fans, just the most in that county. You can't trade in counties for votes - this isn't the Electoral College!

Much more valuable (IMO) would be to simply total the number of fans for each school for the entire country, instead of county by county.

You're welcome __> https://twitter.com/SkullSparks/status/1...Mk1bw&s=19

See, that list makes a lot more sense!

Top 10 more popular teams, nationally:
1. Alabama
2. LSU
3. Michigan
4. Ohio State
5. Georgia
6. Clemson
7. Oklahoma
8. Notre Dame
9. Tennessee
10. Oregon
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RE: College Football Fan Map
(Today 11:47 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(06-24-2022 12:19 AM)nodak651 Wrote:  
(06-23-2022 03:17 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(06-22-2022 03:43 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  
(06-22-2022 02:58 PM)Yosef181 Wrote:  You're right, silly me. According to OP's logic, Maine, SDSU, and Montana are more popular than Louisville, Auburn, and Ole Miss because of this map. What a revelation! Someone call ESPN.

It's on the internets so it's true.

[Image: gwUShieh.jpg]

NOTE: Being the most popular team in a sparsely populated county doesn't mean you lots of fans, just the most in that county. You can't trade in counties for votes - this isn't the Electoral College!

Much more valuable (IMO) would be to simply total the number of fans for each school for the entire country, instead of county by county.

You're welcome __> https://twitter.com/SkullSparks/status/1...Mk1bw&s=19

See, that list makes a lot more sense!

Top 10 more popular teams, nationally:
1. Alabama
2. LSU
3. Michigan
4. Ohio State
5. Georgia
6. Clemson
7. Oklahoma
8. Notre Dame
9. Tennessee
10. Oregon

That one doesn't make sense either. It's not like there are thousands of teams to pour through here to where you can't figure out that NDSU does have a facebook page with 116k followers, VT has one with 11k followers on just one of their pages, and Memphis has one with 200k followers. All three are zero on this.
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Post: #44
RE: College Football Fan Map
(Today 12:43 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(Today 11:47 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(06-24-2022 12:19 AM)nodak651 Wrote:  
(06-23-2022 03:17 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(06-22-2022 03:43 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  It's on the internets so it's true.

[Image: gwUShieh.jpg]

NOTE: Being the most popular team in a sparsely populated county doesn't mean you lots of fans, just the most in that county. You can't trade in counties for votes - this isn't the Electoral College!

Much more valuable (IMO) would be to simply total the number of fans for each school for the entire country, instead of county by county.

You're welcome __> https://twitter.com/SkullSparks/status/1...Mk1bw&s=19

See, that list makes a lot more sense!

Top 10 more popular teams, nationally:
1. Alabama
2. LSU
3. Michigan
4. Ohio State
5. Georgia
6. Clemson
7. Oklahoma
8. Notre Dame
9. Tennessee
10. Oregon

That one doesn't make sense either. It's not like there are thousands of teams to pour through here to where you can't figure out that NDSU does have a facebook page with 116k followers, VT has one with 11k followers on just one of their pages, and Memphis has one with 200k followers. All three are zero on this.
The numbers are neat but not exactly a good gauge of fandom. Like you said, some of their work is sloppy, and you get weird cases like Michigan where their football team has a million followers while their main athletic department page is below UConn's.
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RE: College Football Fan Map
(Today 01:25 PM)Mav Wrote:  
(Today 12:43 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(Today 11:47 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(06-24-2022 12:19 AM)nodak651 Wrote:  
(06-23-2022 03:17 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  [Image: gwUShieh.jpg]

NOTE: Being the most popular team in a sparsely populated county doesn't mean you lots of fans, just the most in that county. You can't trade in counties for votes - this isn't the Electoral College!

Much more valuable (IMO) would be to simply total the number of fans for each school for the entire country, instead of county by county.

You're welcome __> https://twitter.com/SkullSparks/status/1...Mk1bw&s=19

See, that list makes a lot more sense!

Top 10 more popular teams, nationally:
1. Alabama
2. LSU
3. Michigan
4. Ohio State
5. Georgia
6. Clemson
7. Oklahoma
8. Notre Dame
9. Tennessee
10. Oregon

That one doesn't make sense either. It's not like there are thousands of teams to pour through here to where you can't figure out that NDSU does have a facebook page with 116k followers, VT has one with 11k followers on just one of their pages, and Memphis has one with 200k followers. All three are zero on this.
The numbers are neat but not exactly a good gauge of fandom. Like you said, some of their work is sloppy, and you get weird cases like Michigan where their football team has a million followers while their main athletic department page is below UConn's.

Seems like, if they wanted to ignore the older crowd and just use social media, why not just count mentions and hashtag usage? Isn't that what those are for?

I guess either way they'd pick one for one team and ignore 3-4 others being used.
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Post: #46
RE: College Football Fan Map
(Today 01:47 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(Today 01:25 PM)Mav Wrote:  
(Today 12:43 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(Today 11:47 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(06-24-2022 12:19 AM)nodak651 Wrote:  You're welcome __> https://twitter.com/SkullSparks/status/1...Mk1bw&s=19

See, that list makes a lot more sense!

Top 10 more popular teams, nationally:
1. Alabama
2. LSU
3. Michigan
4. Ohio State
5. Georgia
6. Clemson
7. Oklahoma
8. Notre Dame
9. Tennessee
10. Oregon

That one doesn't make sense either. It's not like there are thousands of teams to pour through here to where you can't figure out that NDSU does have a facebook page with 116k followers, VT has one with 11k followers on just one of their pages, and Memphis has one with 200k followers. All three are zero on this.
The numbers are neat but not exactly a good gauge of fandom. Like you said, some of their work is sloppy, and you get weird cases like Michigan where their football team has a million followers while their main athletic department page is below UConn's.

Seems like, if they wanted to ignore the older crowd and just use social media, why not just count mentions and hashtag usage? Isn't that what those are for?

I guess either way they'd pick one for one team and ignore 3-4 others being used.

if you bothered to read the FAQ for skullanalytics, you would know this. Why do you think my project is taking so long 03-wink ?
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