Anybody ask the students?

(06-27-2022 09:10 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 11:28 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 11:00 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(06-21-2022 05:47 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-21-2022 05:35 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  1st - cars
2nd - death penalty
3rd - empty stadiums/arenas

And what's his face's kid locked in a closet by Mike Leach.

I think that was TX Tech, but it was a former SMU player. But understandable that we can't think of much else SMU specific.

I remember that Eric Dickerson feller.

It was Craig James kid.

Yes Dickerson and James, the "Pony Express". SMU was too busy playing UT, A&M, Arkansas, TTU, etc. to worry about someone like Memphis.

(06-27-2022 10:37 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 09:10 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 11:28 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 11:00 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(06-21-2022 05:47 PM)Stammers Wrote:  And what's his face's kid locked in a closet by Mike Leach.

I think that was TX Tech, but it was a former SMU player. But understandable that we can't think of much else SMU specific.

I remember that Eric Dickerson feller.

It was Craig James kid.

Yes Dickerson and James, the "Pony Express". SMU was too busy playing UT, A&M, Arkansas, TTU, etc. building a legacy of wrongdoing, deceit and rule violations* to worry about someone like Memphis.

*so said the committee

FYP

(06-27-2022 10:37 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 09:10 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 11:28 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 11:00 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(06-21-2022 05:47 PM)Stammers Wrote:  And what's his face's kid locked in a closet by Mike Leach.

I think that was TX Tech, but it was a former SMU player. But understandable that we can't think of much else SMU specific.

I remember that Eric Dickerson feller.

It was Craig James kid.

Yes Dickerson and James, the "Pony Express". SMU was too busy playing UT, A&M, Arkansas, TTU, etc. to worry about someone like Memphis.

Probably true 35 years ago. On the other hand, in the last 8 years we are 7-1 against you guys, with your 3 point win coming after we had half the team out with covid, had a month off, and only 2 practices.

In our 8 last games, we have AVERAGED 51 points per game against you. No need to worry about us (or go to games), I guess.

(06-27-2022 11:37 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 10:37 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 09:10 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 11:28 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 11:00 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  I think that was TX Tech, but it was a former SMU player. But understandable that we can't think of much else SMU specific.

I remember that Eric Dickerson feller.

It was Craig James kid.

Yes Dickerson and James, the "Pony Express". SMU was too busy playing UT, A&M, Arkansas, TTU, etc. to worry about someone like Memphis.

Probably true 35 years ago. On the other hand, in the last 8 years we are 7-1 against you guys, with your 3 point win coming after we had half the team out with covid, had a month off, and only 2 practices.

In our 8 last games, we have AVERAGED 51 points per game against you. No need to worry about us (or go to games), I guess.

I'm not proud of our record. The dp was devastating.

(06-27-2022 11:37 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 10:37 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 09:10 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 11:28 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 11:00 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  I think that was TX Tech, but it was a former SMU player. But understandable that we can't think of much else SMU specific.

I remember that Eric Dickerson feller.

It was Craig James kid.

Yes Dickerson and James, the "Pony Express". SMU was too busy playing UT, A&M, Arkansas, TTU, etc. to worry about someone like Memphis.

Probably true 35 years ago. On the other hand, in the last 8 years we are 7-1 against you guys, with your 3 point win coming after we had half the team out with covid, had a month off, and only 2 practices.

In our 8 last games, we have AVERAGED 51 points per game against you. No need to worry about us (or go to games), I guess.

So are you saying we were well rested and still lost --or are PRETENDING that all of the above didn't happen and we are 8-0 against the Ponies

(06-27-2022 12:45 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 11:37 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 10:37 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 09:10 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 11:28 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  I remember that Eric Dickerson feller.

It was Craig James kid.

Yes Dickerson and James, the "Pony Express". SMU was too busy playing UT, A&M, Arkansas, TTU, etc. to worry about someone like Memphis.

Probably true 35 years ago. On the other hand, in the last 8 years we are 7-1 against you guys, with your 3 point win coming after we had half the team out with covid, had a month off, and only 2 practices.

In our 8 last games, we have AVERAGED 51 points per game against you. No need to worry about us (or go to games), I guess.

I'm not proud of our record. The dp was devastating.

The good news is we became much stronger academically.

(06-27-2022 10:37 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 09:10 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 11:28 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 11:00 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(06-21-2022 05:47 PM)Stammers Wrote:  And what's his face's kid locked in a closet by Mike Leach.

I think that was TX Tech, but it was a former SMU player. But understandable that we can't think of much else SMU specific.

I remember that Eric Dickerson feller.

It was Craig James kid.

Yes Dickerson and James, the "Pony Express". SMU was too busy playing UT, A&M, Arkansas, TTU, etc. to worry about someone like Memphis.

While Memphis was kicking Texas A&Ms ass back then

(06-27-2022 01:15 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 10:37 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 09:10 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 11:28 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 11:00 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  I think that was TX Tech, but it was a former SMU player. But understandable that we can't think of much else SMU specific.

I remember that Eric Dickerson feller.

It was Craig James kid.

Yes Dickerson and James, the "Pony Express". SMU was too busy playing UT, A&M, Arkansas, TTU, etc. to worry about someone like Memphis.

While Memphis was kicking Texas A&Ms ass back then

We were?

(06-27-2022 01:35 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 01:15 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 10:37 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 09:10 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 11:28 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  I remember that Eric Dickerson feller.

It was Craig James kid.

Yes Dickerson and James, the "Pony Express". SMU was too busy playing UT, A&M, Arkansas, TTU, etc. to worry about someone like Memphis.

While Memphis was kicking Texas A&Ms ass back then

We were?

I remember 58-0-----but maybe he meant BB

(06-27-2022 12:56 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 11:37 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 10:37 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 09:10 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 11:28 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  I remember that Eric Dickerson feller.

It was Craig James kid.

Yes Dickerson and James, the "Pony Express". SMU was too busy playing UT, A&M, Arkansas, TTU, etc. to worry about someone like Memphis.

Probably true 35 years ago. On the other hand, in the last 8 years we are 7-1 against you guys, with your 3 point win coming after we had half the team out with covid, had a month off, and only 2 practices.

In our 8 last games, we have AVERAGED 51 points per game against you. No need to worry about us (or go to games), I guess.

So are you saying we were well rested and still lost --or are PRETENDING that all of the above didn't happen and we are 8-0 against the Ponies

You've got it backwards (as usual). YOU are pretending that Gainwell, Coxie, Gunnell and the offensive line all played.

No excuses

(06-27-2022 01:15 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 10:37 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 09:10 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 11:28 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 11:00 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  I think that was TX Tech, but it was a former SMU player. But understandable that we can't think of much else SMU specific.

I remember that Eric Dickerson feller.

It was Craig James kid.

Yes Dickerson and James, the "Pony Express". SMU was too busy playing UT, A&M, Arkansas, TTU, etc. to worry about someone like Memphis.

While Memphis was kicking Texas A&Ms ass back then

Lots of teams were kicking A&M's ass back then, but the Mustangs were kicking everyones ass.

(06-27-2022 01:38 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 01:35 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 01:15 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 10:37 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 09:10 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  It was Craig James kid.

Yes Dickerson and James, the "Pony Express". SMU was too busy playing UT, A&M, Arkansas, TTU, etc. to worry about someone like Memphis.

While Memphis was kicking Texas A&Ms ass back then

We were?

I remember 58-0-----but maybe he meant BB

In football, we are 0-2 vs the Aggies. We lost 58-0 in 1978 and the next year played them in Memphis and we lost 17-7. In basketball we are 4-3, losing all three games played in College Station.

(06-22-2022 09:22 AM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  

(06-21-2022 04:03 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-21-2022 02:39 PM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  

(06-21-2022 11:26 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-21-2022 11:18 AM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  

It's hard to believe that anyone within the schools administration thought LBMS improvements are more beneficial long-term than building an OCS. The OP was about student involvement, and I don't think there's much the school can do to reach out to the casual student-fan on a weekly basis that would have as much impact as an OCS. Even gimmicky giveaways lose their appeal quickly. Winning definitely helps with student involvement, but there's no way to guarantee that year over year.

Quote:It's hard to believe that anyone within the schools administration thought LBMS improvements are more beneficial long-term than building an OCS.

I am sure that nobody thought that. This is no different than not doing anything for a long time and allowing infrastructure to crumble, and then when you have to do something, it costs 10X more.

IMO, the issue is that it took 20 years to raise what turned out to be $20 million for an IPF, that could probably have been built for $5 million 15 years ago. Raising ticket prices (we are seeing it in this thread) causes many of our fans to freak out.

It isn't that our fanbase is cheap. Our endowment is less than $300 million. There is a disconnect between the admin and alumni. The same as crumbling infrastructure, at crucial times we had garbage presidents and AD's. IF we had leadership like Rudd/Bowen at any time from 1990-2020, we would be in a much different position today.

Having an OCS is a great idea, the only really great idea there is, but we can't pay for it.

getting people back on campus should be a sure-fire way to increase alumni contributions. The IPF is different in that alumni really don't get any benefit from it other than bragging rights, whereas an OCS is something they can directly benefit from as they would be back on campus attending games there.

We all know that. How do you come up with the $300 million?

in the same fashion they're able to contribute $200 million to a city owned facility. Look, I understand the likelihood of an OCS if extremely slim, but if you're really wanting student/fan/alumni involvement to increase, the plans of an OC should do that. I fell like the renovation images to LBMS look amazing, but the hype seemingly fell short.

My daughter is going through orientation this week at Ole Miss. Their focus on creating student experiences oncampus is purposeful & exhaustive. Their goal = producing participating, active students & alumni. Their means… greeks, oncampus organizations, oncampus sports.

(06-28-2022 11:13 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 09:22 AM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  

(06-21-2022 04:03 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-21-2022 02:39 PM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  

(06-21-2022 11:26 AM)Stammers Wrote:  I am sure that nobody thought that. This is no different than not doing anything for a long time and allowing infrastructure to crumble, and then when you have to do something, it costs 10X more.

IMO, the issue is that it took 20 years to raise what turned out to be $20 million for an IPF, that could probably have been built for $5 million 15 years ago. Raising ticket prices (we are seeing it in this thread) causes many of our fans to freak out.

It isn't that our fanbase is cheap. Our endowment is less than $300 million. There is a disconnect between the admin and alumni. The same as crumbling infrastructure, at crucial times we had garbage presidents and AD's. IF we had leadership like Rudd/Bowen at any time from 1990-2020, we would be in a much different position today.

Having an OCS is a great idea, the only really great idea there is, but we can't pay for it.

getting people back on campus should be a sure-fire way to increase alumni contributions. The IPF is different in that alumni really don't get any benefit from it other than bragging rights, whereas an OCS is something they can directly benefit from as they would be back on campus attending games there.

We all know that. How do you come up with the $300 million?

in the same fashion they're able to contribute $200 million to a city owned facility. Look, I understand the likelihood of an OCS if extremely slim, but if you're really wanting student/fan/alumni involvement to increase, the plans of an OC should do that. I fell like the renovation images to LBMS look amazing, but the hype seemingly fell short.

My daughter is going through orientation this week at Ole Miss. Their focus on creating student experiences oncampus is purposeful & exhaustive. Their goal = producing participating, active students & alumni. Their means… greeks, oncampus organizations, oncampus sports.