(05-28-2022 12:52 AM)UofMark Wrote:  

(05-27-2022 06:50 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(05-27-2022 07:24 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  Unless you’re stupid you understand this:

Memphis is the second smallest or smallest market in the NBA, we are going to subsidize a stadium if we have a major league team.

The $23 million payment from the city to the grizzlies is actually a discounted amount agreed to by the grizzlies, it is not a subsidy it is a discount the grizzlies gave the city, A discount from a contract the grizzlies had signed with the city.

If the grizzlies had not come here the city of Memphis and state of TN would not have any different Attitude about paying for our facilities.


FedExForum upgrades and liberty bowl upgrades are completely unrelated.

I did not write the article. Tell them they are stupid and leave me out of it.

Leave you out of it. You’ve been a Grizzlies troll for years here. Why they continually allow you posting rights here In this forum of Grizzlies fans is bizarre. Hey Nashville, please just leave us alone. Ya’ll have a NFL stadium to build.

So you are against freedom of speech?

(06-03-2022 03:26 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(06-03-2022 01:32 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  It is not worth a new thread, but a CA article today about Graceland reminded me of a little discussed advantage for the Griz.

Graceland wanted to build a 6,200-seat arena using public funds, but was denied by the city’s non-compete clause with FedExForum. Over 600,000 visitors see Graceland and the local economic impact is about $150,000,000 per year. Therefore, the Griz have a competitive advantage over all other venues - including iconic Graceland.

https://www.localmemphis.com/amp/article...d6c6b9b6bb

https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/m...762445002/

serious question:

Why would you post something that makes you look so stupid?

The Grizzlies have the no compete clause because they are running the FedExForum and are responisble for all operating losses of the arena. they accepted that responsibility , the city granted the non-compete clause to get them to accept the responsibility.

IT IS A CONTRACT that the city negotiated. The city thinks it benefits them so they have continued the arrangement.

Again with the personal attacks. Is there nothing in your quiver except insults? Stop being so sensitive.

I merely point out Graceland (who to the best of my knowledge does not have a non-compete clause to help with their operational costs) cannot build a venue using public funds unlike the Griz and it is an advantage to the Griz.

(06-03-2022 04:53 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-28-2022 12:52 AM)UofMark Wrote:  

(05-27-2022 06:50 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(05-27-2022 07:24 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  Unless you’re stupid you understand this:

Memphis is the second smallest or smallest market in the NBA, we are going to subsidize a stadium if we have a major league team.

The $23 million payment from the city to the grizzlies is actually a discounted amount agreed to by the grizzlies, it is not a subsidy it is a discount the grizzlies gave the city, A discount from a contract the grizzlies had signed with the city.

If the grizzlies had not come here the city of Memphis and state of TN would not have any different Attitude about paying for our facilities.


FedExForum upgrades and liberty bowl upgrades are completely unrelated.

I did not write the article. Tell them they are stupid and leave me out of it.

Leave you out of it. You’ve been a Grizzlies troll for years here. Why they continually allow you posting rights here In this forum of Grizzlies fans is bizarre. Hey Nashville, please just leave us alone. Ya’ll have a NFL stadium to build.

So you are against freedom of speech?

shocked that you're even posting here

Grizz have nothing to do with you

(06-03-2022 04:53 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-03-2022 03:26 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(06-03-2022 01:32 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  It is not worth a new thread, but a CA article today about Graceland reminded me of a little discussed advantage for the Griz.

Graceland wanted to build a 6,200-seat arena using public funds, but was denied by the city’s non-compete clause with FedExForum. Over 600,000 visitors see Graceland and the local economic impact is about $150,000,000 per year. Therefore, the Griz have a competitive advantage over all other venues - including iconic Graceland.

https://www.localmemphis.com/amp/article...d6c6b9b6bb

https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/m...762445002/

serious question:

Why would you post something that makes you look so stupid?

The Grizzlies have the no compete clause because they are running the FedExForum and are responisble for all operating losses of the arena. they accepted that responsibility , the city granted the non-compete clause to get them to accept the responsibility.

IT IS A CONTRACT that the city negotiated. The city thinks it benefits them so they have continued the arrangement.

Again with the personal attacks. Is there nothing in your quiver except insults? Stop being so sensitive.

I merely point out Graceland (who to the best of my knowledge does not have a non-compete clause to help with their operational costs) cannot build a venue using public funds unlike the Griz and it is an advantage to the Griz.

Advantage over WHAT?

(06-03-2022 04:53 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-28-2022 12:52 AM)UofMark Wrote:  

(05-27-2022 06:50 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(05-27-2022 07:24 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  Unless you’re stupid you understand this:

Memphis is the second smallest or smallest market in the NBA, we are going to subsidize a stadium if we have a major league team.

The $23 million payment from the city to the grizzlies is actually a discounted amount agreed to by the grizzlies, it is not a subsidy it is a discount the grizzlies gave the city, A discount from a contract the grizzlies had signed with the city.

If the grizzlies had not come here the city of Memphis and state of TN would not have any different Attitude about paying for our facilities.


FedExForum upgrades and liberty bowl upgrades are completely unrelated.

I did not write the article. Tell them they are stupid and leave me out of it.

Leave you out of it. You’ve been a Grizzlies troll for years here. Why they continually allow you posting rights here In this forum of Grizzlies fans is bizarre. Hey Nashville, please just leave us alone. Ya’ll have a NFL stadium to build.

So you are against freedom of speech?

They cannot wrap their head around the concept it is possible to want the Griz to win, but still post commentary about the wisdom and cost/benefit of deals luring the Griz. Surprisingly, it is heresy.

(06-03-2022 04:58 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(06-03-2022 04:53 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-03-2022 03:26 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(06-03-2022 01:32 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  It is not worth a new thread, but a CA article today about Graceland reminded me of a little discussed advantage for the Griz.

Graceland wanted to build a 6,200-seat arena using public funds, but was denied by the city’s non-compete clause with FedExForum. Over 600,000 visitors see Graceland and the local economic impact is about $150,000,000 per year. Therefore, the Griz have a competitive advantage over all other venues - including iconic Graceland.

https://www.localmemphis.com/amp/article...d6c6b9b6bb

https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/m...762445002/

serious question:

Why would you post something that makes you look so stupid?

The Grizzlies have the no compete clause because they are running the FedExForum and are responisble for all operating losses of the arena. they accepted that responsibility , the city granted the non-compete clause to get them to accept the responsibility.

IT IS A CONTRACT that the city negotiated. The city thinks it benefits them so they have continued the arrangement.

Again with the personal attacks. Is there nothing in your quiver except insults? Stop being so sensitive.

I merely point out Graceland (who to the best of my knowledge does not have a non-compete clause to help with their operational costs) cannot build a venue using public funds unlike the Griz and it is an advantage to the Griz.

Advantage over WHAT?

Other entities cannot compete with the Griz in the same way as the Griz. Therefore, it is an advantage to the Griz. Graceland certainly thinks it is an advantage (see article I linked).

I am a big concert attender. I never see Memphis on the list of the more popular concert tours anymore. Memphis used to get them all. Now they get none. Kinda sad actually

(06-03-2022 04:53 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-03-2022 03:26 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(06-03-2022 01:32 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  It is not worth a new thread, but a CA article today about Graceland reminded me of a little discussed advantage for the Griz.

Graceland wanted to build a 6,200-seat arena using public funds, but was denied by the city’s non-compete clause with FedExForum. Over 600,000 visitors see Graceland and the local economic impact is about $150,000,000 per year. Therefore, the Griz have a competitive advantage over all other venues - including iconic Graceland.

https://www.localmemphis.com/amp/article...d6c6b9b6bb

https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/m...762445002/

serious question:

Why would you post something that makes you look so stupid?

The Grizzlies have the no compete clause because they are running the FedExForum and are responisble for all operating losses of the arena. they accepted that responsibility , the city granted the non-compete clause to get them to accept the responsibility.

IT IS A CONTRACT that the city negotiated. The city thinks it benefits them so they have continued the arrangement.

Again with the personal attacks. Is there nothing in your quiver except insults? Stop being so sensitive.

I merely point out Graceland (who to the best of my knowledge does not have a non-compete clause to help with their operational costs) cannot build a venue using public funds unlike the Griz and it is an advantage to the Griz.

these are not personal attacks -I'm trying to help you avoid looking stupid-- obviously you are trolling so I'll stop offering helpful advice

(06-04-2022 09:22 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(06-03-2022 04:53 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-03-2022 03:26 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(06-03-2022 01:32 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  It is not worth a new thread, but a CA article today about Graceland reminded me of a little discussed advantage for the Griz.

Graceland wanted to build a 6,200-seat arena using public funds, but was denied by the city’s non-compete clause with FedExForum. Over 600,000 visitors see Graceland and the local economic impact is about $150,000,000 per year. Therefore, the Griz have a competitive advantage over all other venues - including iconic Graceland.

https://www.localmemphis.com/amp/article...d6c6b9b6bb

https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/m...762445002/

serious question:

Why would you post something that makes you look so stupid?

The Grizzlies have the no compete clause because they are running the FedExForum and are responisble for all operating losses of the arena. they accepted that responsibility , the city granted the non-compete clause to get them to accept the responsibility.

IT IS A CONTRACT that the city negotiated. The city thinks it benefits them so they have continued the arrangement.

Again with the personal attacks. Is there nothing in your quiver except insults? Stop being so sensitive.

I merely point out Graceland (who to the best of my knowledge does not have a non-compete clause to help with their operational costs) cannot build a venue using public funds unlike the Griz and it is an advantage to the Griz.

these are not personal attacks -I'm trying to help you avoid looking stupid-- obviously you are trolling so I'll stop offering helpful advice

Your advice has been considered with all the merit due it. I think you are capable of rational discussion and I welcome it. Please try.