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RE: The future of college football
The money now is beyond what anyone expected, Memphis has most likely seen its hey-day in recruiting the past 4 to 5 years. The template changed and as of yet what we have done NIL is good yet our peers or teams who use to be our peers are far more advanced and armed with $$$$$.

I feel for teams that are not in a P5, this is not going to be easy. Never has been for Memphis - yet we seem to keep on finding ways to be really good on the outside looking in.

Lets hope we can change the template a bit to figure out our way.
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(06-08-2022 01:14 PM)griffin Wrote:  The money now is beyond what anyone expected, Memphis has most likely seen its hey-day in recruiting the past 4 to 5 years. The template changed and as of yet what we have done NIL is good yet our peers or teams who use to be our peers are far more advanced and armed with $$$$$.

I feel for teams that are not in a P5, this is not going to be easy. Never has been for Memphis - yet we seem to keep on finding ways to be really good on the outside looking in.

Lets hope we can change the template a bit to figure out our way.

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The future of college football is four 16 team conferences with their own governing body and playoff for a national championship. The playoff will incorporate all of the current major bowls.

These 64 teams will, in essence, be the primary source for NFL talent. They will control and divide college football tv money and all 32 games played each weekend will be available for nationwide viewing.

While some schools outside the 64 may continue football programs, they will be a greatly scaled back version of today's money guzzling operations. They will be more like club sports teams with free admission and local streaming.
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(06-10-2022 10:39 PM)teebone Wrote:  The future of college football is four 16 team conferences with their own governing body and playoff for a national championship. The playoff will incorporate all of the current major bowls.

These 64 teams will, in essence, be the primary source for NFL talent. They will control and divide college football tv money and all 32 games played each weekend will be available for nationwide viewing.

While some schools outside the 64 may continue football programs, they will be a greatly scaled back version of today's money guzzling operations. They will be more like club sports teams with free admission and local streaming.

Jackie sherrill predicted this years ago ---the question is are we in ?
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The top FB schools still have to maintain an allusion of a national championship to gain, maintain & realize the earnings potential that college FB provides. The SEC understand this & likely the B1G does as well. They aren't attempting to go off by themselves directly. They want to maintain & enhance the allusion of a real national championship but they also want the lion's share of the revenue generated by the allusion. That's why the SEC wants a12-16 team playoff but also insists that there be no automatic slots. The SEC believes they can earn 6 or more of those slots - and many of those at the expense of the other P5 conferences. The other P5 conferences believe that too & that's why they want auto bids. But to maintain this "national championship" allusion that maintains a high level of fan interest there have to be enough independent conferences (say 4-5) to keep the allusion alive to drive revenues to the level that makes the process viable. Not sure that process leaves a place for our university even if we get à diluted B12 invite, since a diluted B-12 is essentially at best a FB quality Big East of the past..
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(06-11-2022 12:26 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  The top FB schools still have to maintain an allusion of a national championship to gain, maintain & realize the earnings potential that college FB provides. The SEC understand this & likely the B1G does as well. They aren't attempting to go off by themselves directly. They want to maintain & enhance the allusion of a real national championship but they also want the lion's share of the revenue generated by the allusion. That's why the SEC wants a12-16 team playoff but also insists that there be no automatic slots. The SEC believes they can earn 6 or more of those slots - and many of those at the expense of the other P5 conferences. The other P5 conferences believe that too & that's why they want auto bids. But to maintain this "national championship" allusion that maintains a high level of fan interest there have to be enough independent conferences (say 4-5) to keep the allusion alive to drive revenues to the level that makes the process viable. Not sure that process leaves a place for our university even if we get à diluted B12 invite, since a diluted B-12 is essentially at best a FB quality Big East of the past..

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(06-11-2022 12:30 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(06-11-2022 12:26 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  The top FB schools still have to maintain an allusion of a national championship to gain, maintain & realize the earnings potential that college FB provides. The SEC understand this & likely the B1G does as well. They aren't attempting to go off by themselves directly. They want to maintain & enhance the allusion of a real national championship but they also want the lion's share of the revenue generated by the allusion. That's why the SEC wants a12-16 team playoff but also insists that there be no automatic slots. The SEC believes they can earn 6 or more of those slots - and many of those at the expense of the other P5 conferences. The other P5 conferences believe that too & that's why they want auto bids. But to maintain this "national championship" allusion that maintains a high level of fan interest there have to be enough independent conferences (say 4-5) to keep the allusion alive to drive revenues to the level that makes the process viable. Not sure that process leaves a place for our university even if we get à diluted B12 invite, since a diluted B-12 is essentially at best a FB quality Big East of the past..

YEP

Indeed the national championship is an allusion. There has never been a national championship won on the field. The best way to save college football is with a level field for competition. As long the the SEC dominates and is abetted by the O4 conferences competition will be stifled. I know many of you can't see how a tournament would improve competition in the long run, but no tournament will continue to kill competition in the short run.

By the way all college sports with championship tournaments seem to be doing well. The P5 has most of the better teams because they have the revenue to support them, but they do not dominate the titles. With more competition in football so much of the revenue wouldn't be sopped up by the haves and that would translate to even better competition in the other sports also.

I don't expect those who don't believe the Tigers deserve a chance to compete for a national football championship to agree with my assessment.
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(06-11-2022 08:50 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(06-11-2022 12:30 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(06-11-2022 12:26 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  The top FB schools still have to maintain an allusion of a national championship to gain, maintain & realize the earnings potential that college FB provides. The SEC understand this & likely the B1G does as well. They aren't attempting to go off by themselves directly. They want to maintain & enhance the allusion of a real national championship but they also want the lion's share of the revenue generated by the allusion. That's why the SEC wants a12-16 team playoff but also insists that there be no automatic slots. The SEC believes they can earn 6 or more of those slots - and many of those at the expense of the other P5 conferences. The other P5 conferences believe that too & that's why they want auto bids. But to maintain this "national championship" allusion that maintains a high level of fan interest there have to be enough independent conferences (say 4-5) to keep the allusion alive to drive revenues to the level that makes the process viable. Not sure that process leaves a place for our university even if we get à diluted B12 invite, since a diluted B-12 is essentially at best a FB quality Big East of the past..

YEP

Indeed the national championship is an allusion. There has never been a national championship won on the field. The best way to save college football is with a level field for competition. As long the the SEC dominates and is abetted by the O4 conferences competition will be stifled. I know many of you can't see how a tournament would improve competition in the long run, but no tournament will continue to kill competition in the short run.

By the way all college sports with championship tournaments seem to be doing well. The P5 has most of the better teams because they have the revenue to support them, but they do not dominate the titles. With more competition in football so much of the revenue wouldn't be sopped up by the haves and that would translate to even better competition in the other sports also.

I don't expect those who don't believe the Tigers deserve a chance to compete for a national football championship to agree with my assessment.

An allusion to who and save it for who? The P5 and the networks are happier than pigs in ****. They have no interest in leveling the playing field. What’s plan b?
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Ok, I'm afraid I am going to be that guy....

According to merriam-webster.com:

Allusion refers to the act of making an implied or indirect reference to something.

An illusion is either a mistaken idea or something that is false or not real but that seems to be true or real.

Sorry, but it doesn't get the point across that I think you are trying to make when using the word "allusion" instead of "illusion".

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(06-11-2022 11:09 PM)former guest Wrote:  Ok, I'm afraid I am going to be that guy....

According to merriam-webster.com:

Allusion refers to the act of making an implied or indirect reference to something.

An illusion is either a mistaken idea or something that is false or not real but that seems to be true or real.

Sorry, but it doesn't get the point across that I think you are trying to make when using the word "allusion" instead of "illusion".

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I was quoting the other guy so I’m an innocent party to this.
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(06-11-2022 11:23 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  
(06-11-2022 11:09 PM)former guest Wrote:  Ok, I'm afraid I am going to be that guy....

According to merriam-webster.com:

Allusion refers to the act of making an implied or indirect reference to something.

An illusion is either a mistaken idea or something that is false or not real but that seems to be true or real.

Sorry, but it doesn't get the point across that I think you are trying to make when using the word "allusion" instead of "illusion".

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I was quoting the other guy so I’m an innocent party to this.

Yeah, I know. Just one of my pet peeves.... 03-lmfao
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(06-11-2022 08:50 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(06-11-2022 12:30 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(06-11-2022 12:26 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  The top FB schools still have to maintain an allusion of a national championship to gain, maintain & realize the earnings potential that college FB provides. The SEC understand this & likely the B1G does as well. They aren't attempting to go off by themselves directly. They want to maintain & enhance the allusion of a real national championship but they also want the lion's share of the revenue generated by the allusion. That's why the SEC wants a12-16 team playoff but also insists that there be no automatic slots. The SEC believes they can earn 6 or more of those slots - and many of those at the expense of the other P5 conferences. The other P5 conferences believe that too & that's why they want auto bids. But to maintain this "national championship" allusion that maintains a high level of fan interest there have to be enough independent conferences (say 4-5) to keep the allusion alive to drive revenues to the level that makes the process viable. Not sure that process leaves a place for our university even if we get à diluted B12 invite, since a diluted B-12 is essentially at best a FB quality Big East of the past..

YEP

Indeed the national championship is an allusion. There has never been a national championship won on the field. The best way to save college football is with a level field for competition. As long the the SEC dominates and is abetted by the O4 conferences competition will be stifled. I know many of you can't see how a tournament would improve competition in the long run, but no tournament will continue to kill competition in the short run.

By the way all college sports with championship tournaments seem to be doing well. The P5 has most of the better teams because they have the revenue to support them, but they do not dominate the titles. With more competition in football so much of the revenue wouldn't be sopped up by the haves and that would translate to even better competition in the other sports also.

I don't expect those who don't believe the Tigers deserve a chance to compete for a national football championship to agree with my assessment.

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(06-11-2022 11:09 PM)former guest Wrote:  Ok, I'm afraid I am going to be that guy....

According to merriam-webster.com:

Allusion refers to the act of making an implied or indirect reference to something.

An illusion is either a mistaken idea or something that is false or not real but that seems to be true or real.

Sorry, but it doesn't get the point across that I think you are trying to make when using the word "allusion" instead of "illusion".

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(06-11-2022 08:50 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(06-11-2022 12:30 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(06-11-2022 12:26 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  The top FB schools still have to maintain an allusion of a national championship to gain, maintain & realize the earnings potential that college FB provides. The SEC understand this & likely the B1G does as well. They aren't attempting to go off by themselves directly. They want to maintain & enhance the allusion of a real national championship but they also want the lion's share of the revenue generated by the allusion. That's why the SEC wants a12-16 team playoff but also insists that there be no automatic slots. The SEC believes they can earn 6 or more of those slots - and many of those at the expense of the other P5 conferences. The other P5 conferences believe that too & that's why they want auto bids. But to maintain this "national championship" allusion that maintains a high level of fan interest there have to be enough independent conferences (say 4-5) to keep the allusion alive to drive revenues to the level that makes the process viable. Not sure that process leaves a place for our university even if we get à diluted B12 invite, since a diluted B-12 is essentially at best a FB quality Big East of the past..

YEP

Indeed the national championship is an allusion. There has never been a national championship won on the field. The best way to save college football is with a level field for competition. As long the the SEC dominates and is abetted by the O4 conferences competition will be stifled. I know many of you can't see how a tournament would improve competition in the long run, but no tournament will continue to kill competition in the short run.

By the way all college sports with championship tournaments seem to be doing well. The P5 has most of the better teams because they have the revenue to support them, but they do not dominate the titles. With more competition in football so much of the revenue wouldn't be sopped up by the haves and that would translate to even better competition in the other sports also.

I don't expect those who don't believe the Tigers deserve a chance to compete for a national football championship to agree with my assessment.

^THIS^
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(06-12-2022 09:51 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(06-11-2022 11:09 PM)former guest Wrote:  Ok, I'm afraid I am going to be that guy....

According to merriam-webster.com:

Allusion refers to the act of making an implied or indirect reference to something.

An illusion is either a mistaken idea or something that is false or not real but that seems to be true or real.

Sorry, but it doesn't get the point across that I think you are trying to make when using the word "allusion" instead of "illusion".

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Either word works when speaking of the mythical national title in D1 college football.
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(06-08-2022 01:14 PM)griffin Wrote:  The money now is beyond what anyone expected, Memphis has most likely seen its hey-day in recruiting the past 4 to 5 years. The template changed and as of yet what we have done NIL is good yet our peers or teams who use to be our peers are far more advanced and armed with $$$$$.

I feel for teams that are not in a P5, this is not going to be easy. Never has been for Memphis - yet we seem to keep on finding ways to be really good on the outside looking in.

Lets hope we can change the template a bit to figure out our way.

Yes, and this is just the beginning. Anyone paying attention knew that this arms race would escalate very quickly.

P5s getting fat conference payouts can afford to divert / redirect far more private donar money towards NIL deals than schools like Memphis.

The G5 will become a primary source of player development for the P5. Watch and see how this 'evolves' over the next decade.

NIL is just a legal slush fund and G5 schools - which were already at a huge disadvantage especially when you combine NIL with the more liberal transfer rules - are truly screwed unless they can figure something out...
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(06-12-2022 09:51 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(06-11-2022 11:09 PM)former guest Wrote:  Ok, I'm afraid I am going to be that guy....

According to merriam-webster.com:

Allusion refers to the act of making an implied or indirect reference to something.

An illusion is either a mistaken idea or something that is false or not real but that seems to be true or real.

Sorry, but it doesn't get the point across that I think you are trying to make when using the word "allusion" instead of "illusion".

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(06-11-2022 11:09 PM)former guest Wrote:  Ok, I'm afraid I am going to be that guy....

According to merriam-webster.com:

Allusion refers to the act of making an implied or indirect reference to something.

An illusion is either a mistaken idea or something that is false or not real but that seems to be true or real.

Sorry, but it doesn't get the point across that I think you are trying to make when using the word "allusion" instead of "illusion".

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I'm afraid you have out smarted yourself. Allusion is the correct word choice when the idea intended is that the process contemplated is "implied" by those using ii to claim it is an objective NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP when in fact it is not, due to the restrictions & limitations imposed by those making the claims. The fact that this is "implied" may also create an illusion but that is in the reasoning of those receiving the information such as yourself.
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(06-13-2022 09:58 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(06-11-2022 11:09 PM)former guest Wrote:  Ok, I'm afraid I am going to be that guy....

According to merriam-webster.com:

Allusion refers to the act of making an implied or indirect reference to something.

An illusion is either a mistaken idea or something that is false or not real but that seems to be true or real.

Sorry, but it doesn't get the point across that I think you are trying to make when using the word "allusion" instead of "illusion".

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I'm afraid you have out smarted yourself. Allusion is the correct word choice when the idea intended is that the process contemplated is "implied" by those using ii to claim it is an objective NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP when in fact it is not, due to the restrictions & limitations imposed by those making the claims. The fact that this is "implied" may also create an illusion but that is in the reasoning of those receiving the information such as yourself.

Ok. If you say so. Try replacing all the "alludes" with "implied" and see if it is as strong a statement as if replacing them with "illusion".

It's your statement. It can be as vague or forceful as you want it to be by which words you use.
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Nothing ruins a good thread quite like the grammar police.
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