BirdofParadise
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RE: Future for SBC baseball is BRIGHT
I think we need to pump the brakes on expectations for the number of bids.
Is the league getting better? Sure. With respect, UTA and Little Rock have never been consistently good. Adding ODU and Southern Miss certainly makes things better.
But you're only as good as your bottom.
Marshall brings nothing to the baseball table except an anvil. And, while they say they're going to do things to make their baseball better, it's been just lip service so far. The Cajuns go there next year. I'm not looking forward to it.
I'm hoping joining the Sun Belt will help JMU attract better baseball talent.
But App, while their facility is solid, needs to understand there are other sports besides football and invest accordingly. ULM has made improvements, but they need to raise some money. Arkansas State is a total abomination as far as administrative support is concerned. They do have improvements on the table, but their coaching staff is woefully underpaid and serious structural improvements are necessary. Georgia State has improved, but they need to raise money to get their new facility past the drawing board.
TXST, GS, CCU, LA, USA and Troy, along with ODU and Southern Miss, make for a really good top half of the league. But there's a big gap between them and the rest, which won't help the league's overall RPI.
Remember, the good teams don't just get to play themselves. For instance, the Cajuns will miss ODU and the two Georgia schools next year.
Schools need to continue to be aggressive in scheduling non conference, but they need to do it intelligently. You boost your RPI better by playing a school like Oral Roberts, who is 15 games over .500 than you do a bottom feeder from a power conference. (50% of your RPI is your opponent's winning percentage.)
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GaSoEagle
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RE: Future for SBC baseball is BRIGHT
I assume we play the 6 division schools and 4 crossover for next year
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KickItToScotty
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RE: Future for SBC baseball is BRIGHT
Now hopefully the announcement that Ike won't be renewed isn't far behind. If he is kept, well hopefully the distant future is still bright for us but the near future won't be.
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EagNBran
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RE: Future for SBC baseball is BRIGHT
Looking like we might lose our pitching coach this offseason, which would be a really big hit. He's done wonders for our staff over the past few years.
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OsageJ
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RE: Future for SBC baseball is BRIGHT
JMU....nice stadium. Striking!
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BirdofParadise
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RE: Future for SBC baseball is BRIGHT
(06-01-2022 09:04 AM)GaSoEagle Wrote: I assume we play the 6 division schools and 4 crossover for next year
That is correct.
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RE: Future for SBC baseball is BRIGHT
(06-01-2022 11:03 AM)OsageJ Wrote: JMU....nice stadium. Striking!
Agreed. Looks awesome. When is this set to happen?
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RE: Future for SBC baseball is BRIGHT
(06-01-2022 11:03 AM)EagNBran Wrote: Looking like we might lose our pitching coach this offseason, which would be a really big hit. He's done wonders for our staff over the past few years.
Just replace him with our hitting coach...he's pretty good at getting guys to miss the ball with the bat here lately
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RE: Future for SBC baseball is BRIGHT
Build. Build. Build.
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RE: Future for SBC baseball is BRIGHT
Was this project a request of the SBC? If so, maybe Marshall fans get their wish soon, too. ODU's is already planned, and USM already has a beauty. The 4 newcomers might all have up to snuff parks, shortly
(This post was last modified: 06-01-2022 12:07 PM by ODU-Z8.)
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RE: Future for SBC baseball is BRIGHT
(06-01-2022 08:04 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote: I think we need to pump the brakes on expectations for the number of bids.
Is the league getting better? Sure. With respect, UTA and Little Rock have never been consistently good. Adding ODU and Southern Miss certainly makes things better.
But you're only as good as your bottom.
Marshall brings nothing to the baseball table except an anvil. And, while they say they're going to do things to make their baseball better, it's been just lip service so far. The Cajuns go there next year. I'm not looking forward to it.
I'm hoping joining the Sun Belt will help JMU attract better baseball talent.
But App, while their facility is solid, needs to understand there are other sports besides football and invest accordingly. ULM has made improvements, but they need to raise some money. Arkansas State is a total abomination as far as administrative support is concerned. They do have improvements on the table, but their coaching staff is woefully underpaid and serious structural improvements are necessary. Georgia State has improved, but they need to raise money to get their new facility past the drawing board.
TXST, GS, CCU, LA, USA and Troy, along with ODU and Southern Miss, make for a really good top half of the league. But there's a big gap between them and the rest, which won't help the league's overall RPI.
Remember, the good teams don't just get to play themselves. For instance, the Cajuns will miss ODU and the two Georgia schools next year.
Schools need to continue to be aggressive in scheduling non conference, but they need to do it intelligently. You boost your RPI better by playing a school like Oral Roberts, who is 15 games over .500 than you do a bottom feeder from a power conference. (50% of your RPI is your opponent's winning percentage.)
Trust me, App fans are well aware of the need to increase baseball funding if we ever hope to be competitive year to year. We already have enough hurdles with location and weather to deal with. Trying to operate on the cheap just makes the job that much more difficult. Like HapApp said, it doesn't matter who coaches us if we don't invest more.
On the bright side, we did finally put up a batters eye. It only took 16 years of playing at Smith Stadium to get one.
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Herdfan1
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RE: Future for SBC baseball is BRIGHT
(06-01-2022 01:24 PM)JTApps1 Wrote: (06-01-2022 08:04 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote: I think we need to pump the brakes on expectations for the number of bids.
Is the league getting better? Sure. With respect, UTA and Little Rock have never been consistently good. Adding ODU and Southern Miss certainly makes things better.
But you're only as good as your bottom.
Marshall brings nothing to the baseball table except an anvil. And, while they say they're going to do things to make their baseball better, it's been just lip service so far. The Cajuns go there next year. I'm not looking forward to it.
I'm hoping joining the Sun Belt will help JMU attract better baseball talent.
But App, while their facility is solid, needs to understand there are other sports besides football and invest accordingly. ULM has made improvements, but they need to raise some money. Arkansas State is a total abomination as far as administrative support is concerned. They do have improvements on the table, but their coaching staff is woefully underpaid and serious structural improvements are necessary. Georgia State has improved, but they need to raise money to get their new facility past the drawing board.
TXST, GS, CCU, LA, USA and Troy, along with ODU and Southern Miss, make for a really good top half of the league. But there's a big gap between them and the rest, which won't help the league's overall RPI.
Remember, the good teams don't just get to play themselves. For instance, the Cajuns will miss ODU and the two Georgia schools next year.
Schools need to continue to be aggressive in scheduling non conference, but they need to do it intelligently. You boost your RPI better by playing a school like Oral Roberts, who is 15 games over .500 than you do a bottom feeder from a power conference. (50% of your RPI is your opponent's winning percentage.)
Trust me, App fans are well aware of the need to increase baseball funding if we ever hope to be competitive year to year. We already have enough hurdles with location and weather to deal with. Trying to operate on the cheap just makes the job that much more difficult. Like HapApp said, it doesn't matter who coaches us if we don't invest more.
On the bright side, we did finally put up a batters eye. It only took 16 years of playing at Smith Stadium to get one.
"16 years"...that's cute...what are we up to Herd folks, 56? Sad when our best option is to bus 45 mins to the MILB stadium down the road
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RE: Future for SBC baseball is BRIGHT
(06-01-2022 08:04 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote: I think we need to pump the brakes on expectations for the number of bids.
Is the league getting better? Sure. With respect, UTA and Little Rock have never been consistently good. Adding ODU and Southern Miss certainly makes things better.
But you're only as good as your bottom.
Marshall brings nothing to the baseball table except an anvil. And, while they say they're going to do things to make their baseball better, it's been just lip service so far. The Cajuns go there next year. I'm not looking forward to it.
I'm hoping joining the Sun Belt will help JMU attract better baseball talent.
But App, while their facility is solid, needs to understand there are other sports besides football and invest accordingly. ULM has made improvements, but they need to raise some money. Arkansas State is a total abomination as far as administrative support is concerned. They do have improvements on the table, but their coaching staff is woefully underpaid and serious structural improvements are necessary. Georgia State has improved, but they need to raise money to get their new facility past the drawing board.
TXST, GS, CCU, LA, USA and Troy, along with ODU and Southern Miss, make for a really good top half of the league. But there's a big gap between them and the rest, which won't help the league's overall RPI.
Remember, the good teams don't just get to play themselves. For instance, the Cajuns will miss ODU and the two Georgia schools next year.
Schools need to continue to be aggressive in scheduling non conference, but they need to do it intelligently. You boost your RPI better by playing a school like Oral Roberts, who is 15 games over .500 than you do a bottom feeder from a power conference. (50% of your RPI is your opponent's winning percentage.)
We already have next year's Baseball schedule? Or at least who plays who where?
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GaSoEagle
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RE: Future for SBC baseball is BRIGHT
I would like to know who and where we play too
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06-02-2022 12:11 PM |
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BirdofParadise
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RE: Future for SBC baseball is BRIGHT
(06-02-2022 12:11 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote: I would like to know who and where we play too
Schedules have been given to the schools. They have not been made public. I happened to get a copy of ours.
We close the season vs. Southern Miss. I hope that's an annual thing.
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RE: Future for SBC baseball is BRIGHT
The Sun Belt is perfectly positioned to become an elite baseball conference with so much talent in the south. Every single team has the ability to win the conference year in year out. That kind of excitement will bring fans as well as talent to our Sun Belt family. I just hope that every team stays committed to the Sun Belt brand. Not looking to jump to so called greener pastures. The mountain west showed that by standing their ground made the conference stronger. Continuity brings great competition.
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RE: Future for SBC baseball is BRIGHT
(06-01-2022 08:04 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote: I think we need to pump the brakes on expectations for the number of bids.
Is the league getting better? Sure. With respect, UTA and Little Rock have never been consistently good. Adding ODU and Southern Miss certainly makes things better.
But you're only as good as your bottom.
Marshall brings nothing to the baseball table except an anvil. And, while they say they're going to do things to make their baseball better, it's been just lip service so far. The Cajuns go there next year. I'm not looking forward to
I'm hoping joining the Sun Belt will help JMU attract better baseball talent.
But App, while their facility is solid, needs to understand there are other sports besides football and invest accordingly. ULM has made improvements, but they need to raise some money. Arkansas State is a total abomination as far as administrative support is concerned. They do have improvements on the table, but their coaching staff is woefully underpaid and serious structural improvements are necessary. Georgia State has improved, but they need to raise money to get their new facility past the drawing board.
TXST, GS, CCU, LA, USA and Troy, along with ODU and Southern Miss, make for a really good top half of the league. But there's a big gap between them and the rest, which won't help the league's overall RPI.
Remember, the good teams don't just get to play themselves. For instance, the Cajuns will miss ODU and the two Georgia schools next year.
Schools need to continue to be aggressive in scheduling non conference, but they need to do it intelligently. You boost your RPI better by playing a school like Oral Roberts, who is 15 games over .500 than you do a bottom feeder from a power conference. (50% of your RPI is your opponent's winning percentage.)
I totally agree.
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RE: Future for SBC baseball is BRIGHT
(06-04-2022 07:55 AM)D4RKW4T3R ROCK Wrote: The Sun Belt is perfectly positioned to become an elite baseball conference with so much talent in the south. Every single team has the ability to win the conference year in year out. That kind of excitement will bring fans as well as talent to our Sun Belt family. I just hope that every team stays committed to the Sun Belt brand. Not looking to jump to so called greener pastures. The mountain west showed that by standing their ground made the conference stronger. Continuity brings great competition.
And soccer, and football to the G5 extent.
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RE: Future for SBC baseball is BRIGHT
(06-01-2022 08:04 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote: I think we need to pump the brakes on expectations for the number of bids.
Is the league getting better? Sure. With respect, UTA and Little Rock have never been consistently good. Adding ODU and Southern Miss certainly makes things better.
But you're only as good as your bottom.
Marshall brings nothing to the baseball table except an anvil. And, while they say they're going to do things to make their baseball better, it's been just lip service so far. The Cajuns go there next year. I'm not looking forward to it.
I'm hoping joining the Sun Belt will help JMU attract better baseball talent.
But App, while their facility is solid, needs to understand there are other sports besides football and invest accordingly. ULM has made improvements, but they need to raise some money. Arkansas State is a total abomination as far as administrative support is concerned. They do have improvements on the table, but their coaching staff is woefully underpaid and serious structural improvements are necessary. Georgia State has improved, but they need to raise money to get their new facility past the drawing board.
TXST, GS, CCU, LA, USA and Troy, along with ODU and Southern Miss, make for a really good top half of the league. But there's a big gap between them and the rest, which won't help the league's overall RPI.
Remember, the good teams don't just get to play themselves. For instance, the Cajuns will miss ODU and the two Georgia schools next year.
Schools need to continue to be aggressive in scheduling non conference, but they need to do it intelligently. You boost your RPI better by playing a school like Oral Roberts, who is 15 games over .500 than you do a bottom feeder from a power conference. (50% of your RPI is your opponent's winning percentage.)
Ouch! You're just speaking facts though, so there is nothing you said there that I disagree with. If Marshall would ever put money into a baseball facility I think we could be really competitive. There is a lot of talent within our region to pull from.
The City of Huntington has committed $8 million in funds towards getting a ballpark built. If I remember correctly, those funds have to be used by 2024 or they lose it. Imo, Marshall will have a brand new facility open in 2025, but that doesn't help the next 3 years of SBC schools coming to random places around Huntington for Marshall "home" games.
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RE: Future for SBC baseball is BRIGHT
(06-01-2022 08:04 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote: I think we need to pump the brakes on expectations for the number of bids.
Is the league getting better? Sure. With respect, UTA and Little Rock have never been consistently good. Adding ODU and Southern Miss certainly makes things better.
But you're only as good as your bottom.
Marshall brings nothing to the baseball table except an anvil. And, while they say they're going to do things to make their baseball better, it's been just lip service so far. The Cajuns go there next year. I'm not looking forward to it.
I'm hoping joining the Sun Belt will help JMU attract better baseball talent.
But App, while their facility is solid, needs to understand there are other sports besides football and invest accordingly. ULM has made improvements, but they need to raise some money. Arkansas State is a total abomination as far as administrative support is concerned. They do have improvements on the table, but their coaching staff is woefully underpaid and serious structural improvements are necessary. Georgia State has improved, but they need to raise money to get their new facility past the drawing board.
TXST, GS, CCU, LA, USA and Troy, along with ODU and Southern Miss, make for a really good top half of the league. But there's a big gap between them and the rest, which won't help the league's overall RPI.
Remember, the good teams don't just get to play themselves. For instance, the Cajuns will miss ODU and the two Georgia schools next year.
Schools need to continue to be aggressive in scheduling non conference, but they need to do it intelligently. You boost your RPI better by playing a school like Oral Roberts, who is 15 games over .500 than you do a bottom feeder from a power conference. (50% of your RPI is your opponent's winning percentage.)
Do you mean to tell me that paying 30K for an assistant coach isn't the going rate in College Baseball?
Who knew!
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