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Poll: Your predicted order of finish (you may vote for two options)
Cincinnati, UCF, Houston, Memphis, SMU, Tulane, ECU, USF, Tulsa, Navy, Temple (ESPN BPI)
UCF, Houston, Cincy, ECU, Memphis, Tulane, SMU, Navy, Tulsa, Temple, USF (ArmoredUp Knight)
UCF, Cincy, Houston, Navy, Memphis, ECU, SMU, Tulane, Tulsa, Temple, USF (Vonz90)
Cincy, Houston, UCF, Memphis, ECU, Navy, Tulane, Tulsa, SMU, USF, Temple (natibeast 2.0)
Houston, UCF, Cincinnati, ECU, Memphis, SMU, Navy, Tulane, Tulsa, USF, Temple (oasis pirate)
UC/UH/UCF - Gap - ECU/SMU/Tulane - Gap - Memphis, Navy/Temple/Tulsa/USF (TripleA)
UCF, Houston, Cincy, ECU, SMU, Memphis, Tulane, USF, Tulsa, Navy, Temple (CitrusUCF)
Houston, UCF, ECU, Cincy, Tulane, SMU, Temple, USF, Memphis, Navy, Tulsa (GoOwls111)
I’m high on USF, I think they’ll be a 5-6 win team (CLTPirate)
“ECU will finish no lower than 4th.”  (B2b)
The teams will finish “in alphabetical order.” “Just a tongue-in-cheek guess…” (Colorant)
1. Tulsa - Gap - ECU/Memphis/Navy/Temple/Tulane/Tulsa/UCF/USF - 11. UH, 12. UC (panicstricken)
The teams will finish in a different order (specify in comments)
UAPs will invade &/or the entire conference will be disqualified, so there won’t be a FB season.
Who cares? I’m a volleyball (table tennis, etc.)fan!
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RE: Predicted order of finish in the American (2022): How would you rank the teams?
(05-25-2022 01:08 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  
(05-25-2022 12:42 PM)pesik Wrote:  just to clarify this isnt "predicted order of finish according to ESPN" its ESPN's "preseason BPI"... which are drastically different things. bpi is a basic algorithm

ESPN hasnt released preseason aac rankings yet... but have released their preseason top 25

13. Houston Cougars
23. Cincinnati Bearcats
https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...rly-top-25

bpi is essentially useless in regards to anything g5 in preseason bcus recruiting class rankings are incorporated, and the g5 even the elite ones will never match even the middling p5


If Houston is 13th in the country, ECU is vastly underrated. Maybe we played our career game. I didn't see it, I realize the total yardage doesn't include the kick return, but ECU pretty much dominates that game between the 20s. You lose 3 guys to the NFL draft and stud RB out for the year.

IDK, I am going to assume the transfer class is a big haul. But teams that return QBs that the media are in love with also tend to get a bump. Tune is one of those guys.

ECU BARELY BEAT fcs Charleston Southern..i cant see ECU being top 4 in the aac, maybe Charleston Southern who was 4-6 in the fcs is vastly underrated
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i hope you see my point of judging a team off of 1 game makes no sense
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RE: Predicted order of finish in the American (2022): How would you rank the teams?
(05-25-2022 12:33 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(05-25-2022 09:06 AM)Milwaukee Wrote:  
(05-25-2022 08:25 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  1. UCF
2. Houston
3. Cincy
4. ECU
5. Memphis
6. Tulane
7. SMU
8. Navy
9. Tulsa
10. Temple
11. South Florida

It's interesting that you have ECU finishing ahead of Memphis and SMU.

It would be interesting to know your main reasons for rating them so highly, and why you think SMU might finish behind Tulane.

Some may be surprised that you've got Memphis finishing at #5, but it doesn't surprise me too much, considering that they finished 6-6 last season.

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ECU finished above Memphis last season and beat Memphis in Memphis. What reasons do you suggest for that to change.

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RE: Predicted order of finish in the American (2022): How would you rank the teams?
(05-25-2022 01:17 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(05-25-2022 01:08 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  
(05-25-2022 12:42 PM)pesik Wrote:  just to clarify this isnt "predicted order of finish according to ESPN" its ESPN's "preseason BPI"... which are drastically different things. bpi is a basic algorithm

ESPN hasnt released preseason aac rankings yet... but have released their preseason top 25

13. Houston Cougars
23. Cincinnati Bearcats
https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...rly-top-25

bpi is essentially useless in regards to anything g5 in preseason bcus recruiting class rankings are incorporated, and the g5 even the elite ones will never match even the middling p5


If Houston is 13th in the country, ECU is vastly underrated. Maybe we played our career game. I didn't see it, I realize the total yardage doesn't include the kick return, but ECU pretty much dominates that game between the 20s. You lose 3 guys to the NFL draft and stud RB out for the year.

IDK, I am going to assume the transfer class is a big haul. But teams that return QBs that the media are in love with also tend to get a bump. Tune is one of those guys.

ECU BARELY BEAT fcs Charleston Southern..i cant see ECU being top 4 in the aac, maybe Charleston Southern who was 4-6 in the fcs is vastly underrated
*and scene*

i hope you see my point of judging a team off of 1 game makes no sense



Looking through the results, the Memphis game was impressive. The Auburn game? Going to assume they had a ton of opt outs.

Overall not really an impressive resume of wins
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RE: Predicted order of finish in the American (2022): How would you rank the teams?
1. Cincy
2. Houston
3. UCF
4-11. IDK

Even though Cincy lost a lot to the draft, they are returning most of their OL 2-deep and both Bryant and Prater have looked good in Spring ball. The defense should be among the top units in the AAC again as well but definitely will be a step back from what we had last year.
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RE: Predicted order of finish in the American (2022): How would you rank the teams?
(05-25-2022 09:06 AM)Milwaukee Wrote:  
(05-25-2022 08:25 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  1. UCF
2. Houston
3. Cincy
4. ECU
5. Memphis
6. Tulane
7. SMU
8. Navy
9. Tulsa
10. Temple
11. South Florida

It's interesting that you have ECU finishing ahead of Memphis and SMU.

It would be interesting to know your main reasons for rating them so highly, and why you think SMU might finish behind Tulane.

Some may be surprised that you've got Memphis finishing at #5, but it doesn't surprise me too much, considering that they finished 6-6 last season.

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I believe in ECU more than most. I think the improvement from year 2 to year 3 in the Mike Houston system is a really good indication that ECU is a legit contender.

2021:
- They took Houston to overtime on the road last year. The rematch is a home game for ECU this year.
- They were less than a TD from beating UCF on the road last year. That rematch is a home game for ECU in 2022.

QB Holton Ahlers returns and they are deep on the OL and RB positions.
I just like ECU as a fan and long-time conference foe.

I'm low on Cincy because they have to replace a lot of stars.

I'm low on Memphis because they are in year 2 of a coaching transition and I typically like coaches on their 3rd year to boom. Still have my doubts if they hired the right guy.

I'm really low on SMU because they are in the 1st year of a coaching transition and again I typically like coaches on their 3rd year to boom.

I'm higher on Tulane than most because the core of the team was super young. It was a rebuild year talent wise. His entire roster has grown up in the Fritz system, it should be a bounce back year.
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RE: Predicted order of finish in the American (2022): How would you rank the teams?
I’m high on USF, I think they’ll be a 5-6 win team
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RE: Predicted order of finish in the American (2022): How would you rank the teams?
https://www.espn.com/college-football/in...tions-2022

Has Cincy then SMU. Don't sleep on the Ponies as it appears most on this site are.
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RE: Predicted order of finish in the American (2022): How would you rank the teams?
(05-25-2022 02:44 PM)Doesntmatter Wrote:  https://www.espn.com/college-football/in...tions-2022

Has Cincy then SMU. Don't sleep on the Ponies as it appears most on this site are.

Gus Malzahn literally thought Lashlee all he knows.

Springdale HS, Arkansas, Auburn, Arkansas State, Auburn (again)… 10 years under Malzahn’s wing.

I doubt Lashlee will outsmart Malzahn in his rookie season as a head coach. The padawan has not surpassed the master yet.
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RE: Predicted order of finish in the American (2022): How would you rank the teams?
ESPN probably looked at the fine staff Lashlee put together and the 14 transfers they brought in. Two quality 4* QBs and transfer 5* RB. Defense definitely improved. Question is will the OLine be improved. Two P5 OOC games. UC, Memphis, UH at home. UCF, Navy on road. Tough schedule.
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RE: Predicted order of finish in the American (2022): How would you rank the teams?
(05-25-2022 08:20 AM)Milwaukee Wrote:  .


This is the predicted order of finish according to ESPN:

1. Cincinnati (#32)

2. UCF (#33)

3. Houston (#49)

4. Memphis (#51)

5. SMU (#56)

6. Tulane (#64)

7. ECU (#78)

8. USF (#90)

9. Tulsa (#92)

10. Navy (#107)

11. Temple (#122)


How would you rank the teams at this point?

WRONG, having my purple sunglasses on, I am GUARANTEEING y'all that ECU will finish being one of the top 3 teams. Furthermore, don't be surprised if we win the whole "enchilada". Mark my words. 04-rock04-rock04-rock04-rock
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RE: Predicted order of finish in the American (2022): How would you rank the teams?
i dont like using bpi or s/p+ for any preseason projections...the people who even made them dont even see them as the end all be all..Bill C who made s/p+ also makes preseason rankings they never allign with his s/p+...both include recruit rankings . recruit ranking only matter in comparison to the teams you play...
youd rather be 50 in the aac, than 30 in the SEC..

and right now you can make a case for why you think every single will be goo... from returning a ton from a young team, having a true freshmen qb, having a new coach, having elite transfers, returning a ton from a great team, having elite winning culture already established, playing extremely close games with a bunch of goof teams .etc..

there isnt a team in the aac you couldnt make case for why they wont be very good next year...
example: usf is seen as consensus worst team- they are top 3 nationally in returning production, bringing in a top 5 recruiting class (transfer & HS) and took ucf, houston, byu, and tulsa to the wire last year
oppositely you could state why everyone won't be that good
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(05-25-2022 03:43 PM)pesik Wrote:  i dont like using bpi or s/p+ for any preseason projections...the people who even made them dont even see them as the end all be all..Bill C who made s/p+ also makes preseason rankings they never allign with his s/p+...both include recruit rankings . recruit ranking only matter in comparison to the teams you play...
youd rather be 50 in the aac, than 30 in the SEC..

and right now you can make a case for why you think every single will be goo... from returning a ton from a young team, having a true freshmen qb, having a new coach, having elite transfers, returning a ton from a great team, having elite winning culture already established, playing extremely close games with a bunch of goof teams .etc..

there isnt a team in the aac you couldnt make case for why they wont be very good next year...
example: usf is seen as consensus worst team- they are top 3 nationally in returning production, bringing in a top 5 recruiting class (transfer & HS) and took ucf, houston, byu, and tulsa to the wire last year
oppositely you could state why everyone won't be that good


The difference is others aren't preseason 13th in the country by one poll.
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RE: Predicted order of finish in the American (2022): How would you rank the teams?
(05-25-2022 03:47 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  
(05-25-2022 03:43 PM)pesik Wrote:  i dont like using bpi or s/p+ for any preseason projections...the people who even made them dont even see them as the end all be all..Bill C who made s/p+ also makes preseason rankings they never allign with his s/p+...both include recruit rankings . recruit ranking only matter in comparison to the teams you play...
youd rather be 50 in the aac, than 30 in the SEC..

and right now you can make a case for why you think every single will be goo... from returning a ton from a young team, having a true freshmen qb, having a new coach, having elite transfers, returning a ton from a great team, having elite winning culture already established, playing extremely close games with a bunch of goof teams .etc..

there isnt a team in the aac you couldnt make case for why they wont be very good next year...
example: usf is seen as consensus worst team- they are top 3 nationally in returning production, bringing in a top 5 recruiting class (transfer & HS) and took ucf, houston, byu, and tulsa to the wire last year
oppositely you could state why everyone won't be that good


The difference is others aren't preseason 13th in the country by one poll.

i wasnt speaking in generalities about the preseason aac ranking not exactly your post..

when you wrote "The Auburn game? Going to assume they had a ton of opt outs." ... why would you assume that?? and why wouldnt you assume the opposite for us...
houston had more draft picks than auburn... you are looking for a reason to state why houston is overrated...and not trying to see why houston is ranked that way

you are free to have your take, houston is unanimously top 25 in every single preason poll released so far...top 16 is about half the ones ive seen..
Houston will be the preseason favoirte and probably 18-19 in the official ap rankings when it comes out.. id explain why some people are really high on Houston but who cares.
its obvious you only watched 1 houston and just looked at the final scores for the rest
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(05-25-2022 04:29 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(05-25-2022 03:47 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  [quote='pesik' pid='18249470' dateline='1653511436']
i dont like using bpi or s/p+ for any preseason projections...the people who even made them dont even see them as the end all be all..Bill C who made s/p+ also makes preseason rankings they never allign with his s/p+...both include recruit rankings . recruit ranking only matter in comparison to the teams you play...
youd rather be 50 in the aac, than 30 in the SEC..

and right now you can make a case for why you think every single will be goo... from returning a ton from a young team, having a true freshmen qb, having a new coach, having elite transfers, returning a ton from a great team, having elite winning culture already established, playing extremely close games with a bunch of goof teams .etc..

there isnt a team in the aac you couldnt make case for why they wont be very good next year...
example: usf is seen as consensus worst team- they are top 3 nationally in returning production, bringing in a top 5 recruiting class (transfer & HS) and took ucf, houston, byu, and tulsa to the wire last year
oppositely you could state why everyone won't be that good


The difference is others aren't preseason 13th in the country by one poll.

i wasnt speaking in generalities about the preseason aac ranking not exactly your post..

when you wrote "The Auburn game? Going to assume they had a ton of opt outs." ... why would you assume that?? and why wouldnt you assume the opposite for us...
houston had more draft picks than auburn... you are looking for a reason to state why houston is overrated...and not trying to see why houston is ranked that way

you are free to have your take, houston is unanimously top 25 in every single preason poll released so far...top 16 is about half the ones ive seen..
Houston will be the preseason favoirte and probably 18-19 in the official ap rankings when it comes out.. id explain why some people are really high on Houston but who cares.
its obvious you only watched 1 houston and just looked at the final scores for the rest

Just looked it up, Auburn had at least 3 starters opt out including an All American, I saw a couple of Houston games outside of the ecu game. Good team, preseason 13th? Nope
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(05-25-2022 04:39 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  Just looked it up, Auburn had at least 3 starters opt out including an All American, I saw a couple of Houston games outside of the ecu game. Good team, preseason 13th? Nope

again why are you assuming auburn had opt outs but not houston..houston had more draft picks and more opt outs than auburn

you are looking for a reason to hate on houston..you are judging games off of 1 houston game you watched and the final scores of the rest..

every analyst nationally who actually watched has houston preseason top 25, half have then top 16... im sure they all dont have a conspiracy planned together to overhype houston

here the thing, i have major doubts about houston next year...but you arent stating them you are stating surface level things that arent actual doubts ..you are just looking for reasons to nitpick... i could make a drastically worse nitpick case for ecu
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RE: Predicted order of finish in the American (2022): How would you rank the teams?
I am reluctant to have any expectations for ECU this year. TBH with a 5th yr starting QB, exp OL, two starting caliber backs (added 4* transfer as well) at RB, a pretty deep WR room now and a defense that basically returned everyone we could easily have a special season, but then again if the new WR's struggle and Ahlers doesn't get more consistent then we could easily going 6-6/7-5. The good news is our defense will probably be the best it's been in ten years or so and that will help a lot.

Only thing I'll predict is we should be one of the better rushing teams and better defenses in the conference. Ahlers may be asked to do a lot less with the two headed monster behind him.
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(05-25-2022 04:51 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(05-25-2022 04:39 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  Just looked it up, Auburn had at least 3 starters opt out including an All American, I saw a couple of Houston games outside of the ecu game. Good team, preseason 13th? Nope

again why are you assuming auburn had opt outs but not houston..houston had more draft picks and more opt outs than auburn

you are looking for a reason to hate on houston..you are judging games off of 1 houston game you watched and the final scores of the rest..

every analyst nationally who actually watched has houston preseason top 25, half have then top 16... im sure they all dont have a conspiracy planned together to overhype houston

here the thing, i have major doubts about houston next year...but you arent stating them you are stating surface level things that arent actual doubts ..you are just looking for reasons to nitpick... i could make a drastically worse nitpick case for ecu



Sensitive aren't you. I picked Houston #1 if you see above. But I also think parity at the top is real.

As for Auburn having guys sit, it's quite common for sec teams to have guys sit for what they deem lower tier bowl games, I see Marcus Jones sat as well.

I don't see you as 13th, then again I don't see ncsu as top 10. Maybe it's the parity I'm seeing.
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RE: Predicted order of finish in the American (2022): How would you rank the teams?
(05-25-2022 06:47 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  
(05-25-2022 04:51 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(05-25-2022 04:39 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  Just looked it up, Auburn had at least 3 starters opt out including an All American, I saw a couple of Houston games outside of the ecu game. Good team, preseason 13th? Nope

again why are you assuming auburn had opt outs but not houston..houston had more draft picks and more opt outs than auburn

you are looking for a reason to hate on houston..you are judging games off of 1 houston game you watched and the final scores of the rest..

every analyst nationally who actually watched has houston preseason top 25, half have then top 16... im sure they all dont have a conspiracy planned together to overhype houston

here the thing, i have major doubts about houston next year...but you arent stating them you are stating surface level things that arent actual doubts ..you are just looking for reasons to nitpick... i could make a drastically worse nitpick case for ecu



Sensitive aren't you. I picked Houston #1 if you see above. But I also think parity at the top is real.

As for Auburn having guys sit, it's quite common for sec teams to have guys sit for what they deem lower tier bowl games, I see Marcus Jones sat as well.

I don't see you as 13th, then again I don't see ncsu as top 10. Maybe it's the parity I'm seeing.

you are the one that seems sensitive to enforcing houston is overrated.. i literally dropped the convo and started talking about how everyone can be good, and you pull it it back to being about houston...
you saw houston beat auburn, you just automatically assumed (with zero research) that it was because they had players opting out .. you are LOOKING for reasons to say overrated..

like i said i have doubts about houston, there are some question marks, but you arent stating any of them...but houston is favored to win every single game next year lets not act like its a crazy that some have houston at 13
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RE: Predicted order of finish in the American (2022): How would you rank the teams?
(05-25-2022 01:08 PM)vick mike Wrote:  
(05-25-2022 12:33 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(05-25-2022 09:06 AM)Milwaukee Wrote:  
(05-25-2022 08:25 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  1. UCF
2. Houston
3. Cincy
4. ECU
5. Memphis
6. Tulane
7. SMU
8. Navy
9. Tulsa
10. Temple
11. South Florida

It's interesting that you have ECU finishing ahead of Memphis and SMU.

It would be interesting to know your main reasons for rating them so highly, and why you think SMU might finish behind Tulane.

Some may be surprised that you've got Memphis finishing at #5, but it doesn't surprise me too much, considering that they finished 6-6 last season.

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ECU finished above Memphis last season and beat Memphis in Memphis. What reasons do you suggest for that to change.

Yeah but Temple beat Memphis last year too, its not that big of a deal.

True, makes it all the more strange that ECU picked above Memphis is so interesting.
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(05-25-2022 02:21 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  
(05-25-2022 09:06 AM)Milwaukee Wrote:  
(05-25-2022 08:25 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  1. UCF
2. Houston
3. Cincy
4. ECU
5. Memphis
6. Tulane
7. SMU
8. Navy
9. Tulsa
10. Temple
11. South Florida

It's interesting that you have ECU finishing ahead of Memphis and SMU.

It would be interesting to know your main reasons for rating them so highly, and why you think SMU might finish behind Tulane.

Some may be surprised that you've got Memphis finishing at #5, but it doesn't surprise me too much, considering that they finished 6-6 last season.

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I believe in ECU more than most. I think the improvement from year 2 to year 3 in the Mike Houston system is a really good indication that ECU is a legit contender.

2021:
- They took Houston to overtime on the road last year. The rematch is a home game for ECU this year.
- They were less than a TD from beating UCF on the road last year. That rematch is a home game for ECU in 2022.

QB Holton Ahlers returns and they are deep on the OL and RB positions.
I just like ECU as a fan and long-time conference foe.

I'm low on Cincy because they have to replace a lot of stars.

I'm low on Memphis because they are in year 2 of a coaching transition and I typically like coaches on their 3rd year to boom. Still have my doubts if they hired the right guy.

I'm really low on SMU because they are in the 1st year of a coaching transition and again I typically like coaches on their 3rd year to boom.

I'm higher on Tulane than most because the core of the team was super young. It was a rebuild year talent wise. His entire roster has grown up in the Fritz system, it should be a bounce back year.

If he doesn't get at least 6-6 this year, he gone! Schedule is tough this year so I'm not sure he gets there. I'll be disappointed with less than 8-4. Realistically, I don't think that's a remote possibility.

The way we F'd up that game against UTSA gives me little confidence in his ability. I'd rather have their coach. You don't blow a 21-0 lead at home if you can coach.
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