Logistically a SB in Paris, Berlin or London is very possible but not the most ideal. But considering that the game has outpriced the average fan, does it really matter where it's played? Also considering that since teams travel to the SB city practically a week in advance, time zones really aren't going to factor much, for the teams and media. Realistically, if you do kick-off at 9PM in Paris or Belin or at 8PM in London, the kick-off in the states will be 3PM Eastern/Noon West Coast. If we really want to grow the game in Europe, this should be the time of kickoff anyways. Currently the game is played 1120/1220 and finishing by 4AM in Europe. Starting it at 8/9 means that it's likely finishing by 1230/130 local time. Perhaps that there's some way to speed it up some, shorter commercial breaks and shorter HT show. If the game goes into OT, it's probably a logistical nightmare.

SB is always star-studded so why not include European stars especially with a halftime show featuring a native band from Germany, France or London with an American band. European & American bands can perform nightly concerts leading up to the big game kinda like what we see now. Have a local star sing that country's national anthem and an American star perform our national anthem.

Perhaps this never happens; I think it should. It's the best way to grow our brand of football. Europe has more than enough stadiums that are large enough to hold the event. And they have the media space and hotel space to host it as well. If they're holding Champions League and Europas games, then they have more than enough space for the SB. You can also use this opportunity to feature European players in the NFL for things like the coin toss and such.

(05-24-2022 02:56 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  Logistically a SB in Paris, Berlin or London is very possible but not the most ideal. But considering that the game has outpriced the average fan, does it really matter where it's played? Also considering that since teams travel to the SB city practically a week in advance, time zones really aren't going to factor much, for the teams and media. Realistically, if you do kick-off at 9PM in Paris or Belin or at 8PM in London, the kick-off in the states will be 3PM Eastern/Noon West Coast. If we really want to grow the game in Europe, this should be the time of kickoff anyways. Currently the game is played 1120/1220 and finishing by 4AM in Europe. Starting it at 8/9 means that it's likely finishing by 1230/130 local time. Perhaps that there's some way to speed it up some, shorter commercial breaks and shorter HT show. If the game goes into OT, it's probably a logistical nightmare.

SB is always star-studded so why not include European stars especially with a halftime show featuring a native band from Germany, France or London with an American band. European & American bands can perform nightly concerts leading up to the big game kinda like what we see now. Have a local star sing that country's national anthem and an American star perform our national anthem.

Perhaps this never happens; I think it should. It's the best way to grow our brand of football. Europe has more than enough stadiums that are large enough to hold the event. And they have the media space and hotel space to host it as well. If they're holding Champions League and Europas games, then they have more than enough space for the SB. You can also use this opportunity to feature European players in the NFL for things like the coin toss and such.

London might be a possibility, but SB are primarily a reward to owners who were successful at fleecing cities into building new stadiums for teams. I can't see the likes of Stan, Jerry or Arthur wanting to give the opportunity to host the big game simply for the prospect of growing the game abroad.

I wouldn't consider any overseas Super Bowl a possibility as television and advertisers are paying for a specific timeslot (6:30 eastern) that isn't doable overseas (11:30pm).

Temperature is also an issue. London and Paris February temps are around 40° while Munich is at freezing and those are daytime highs. Neither of those three cities have a dome, the MetLife Super Bowl l, XLVIII, had a kickoff temp of 49.

Cardiff has a 74K seat retractable roof stadium and has hosted a Champions League Final, FA Cup finals as new Wembley was constructed and a Final for the Rugby World Cup, the NFL ain't going to Cardiff

Real Madrid's stadium is undergoing renovations to have a retractable roof as well as a retractable grass pitch with a turf field underneath, like Allegiant Stadium and Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. It should be completed this year and Real Madrid wants NFL games to help pay down the debt service.

It'd be more likely to go to Brazil and it's more temperate Winter (their summer) temperatures.

New Zealand might be the only place outside North or South America where this could work while keeping the current time slot. A game that kicks off at 6:30 PM Eastern Standard Time in February would be played at 11:30 AM New Zealand Daylight Time on Monday. Even then it would be difficult, as you're asking tens of thousands of fans to show up on a Monday, and New Zealand really doesn't offer a large enough market.

A London Super Bowl might be able to be played at 3:00 PM Eastern, but that probably kills US TV ratings.

(05-28-2022 03:48 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  New Zealand might be the only place outside North or South America where this could work while keeping the current time slot. A game that kicks off at 6:30 PM Eastern Standard Time in February would be played at 11:30 AM New Zealand Daylight Time on Monday. Even then it would be difficult, as you're asking tens of thousands of fans to show up on a Monday, and New Zealand really doesn't offer a large enough market.

A London Super Bowl might be able to be played at 3:00 PM Eastern, but that probably kills US TV ratings.

How exactly would that kill US ratings though? Only thing on that day is things like the puppy bowl & bud bowl and nonstop pregame festivities for like 10 hours. The SB sells itself as it's become a pop culture event larger than the game itself. I really don't see that changing regardless of the timeslot, sans it kicking off at like 9am out west.

(05-28-2022 04:36 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  

(05-28-2022 03:48 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  New Zealand might be the only place outside North or South America where this could work while keeping the current time slot. A game that kicks off at 6:30 PM Eastern Standard Time in February would be played at 11:30 AM New Zealand Daylight Time on Monday. Even then it would be difficult, as you're asking tens of thousands of fans to show up on a Monday, and New Zealand really doesn't offer a large enough market.

A London Super Bowl might be able to be played at 3:00 PM Eastern, but that probably kills US TV ratings.

How exactly would that kill US ratings though? Only thing on that day is things like the puppy bowl & bud bowl and nonstop pregame festivities for like 10 hours. The SB sells itself as it's become a pop culture event larger than the game itself. I really don't see that changing regardless of the timeslot, sans it kicking off at like 9am out west.

Any event playing in the afternoon - as opposed to primetime - will take a hit in ratings and consequently lower rates paid by advertisers. There are less viewing households using television in the afternoon than primetime - this has held true forever.

The NFL switched kickoff time from afternoon to primetime between Super Bowl 11 and 12. The ratings jumped from 62m to 79m (27%). A 30-second commercial cost $107k, $110k, & $125k in Super Bowls 9-11. It then cost $162k, $185k, & $222k in Super Bowls 12-14.

The Super Bowl would still draw big ratings in the afternoon, but by *Super Bowl standards* it would take quite a hit, which means less advertising revenue and why another afternoon Super Bowl won’t happen.