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Will Texas A&M receive a spanking from the NCAA?
Quote:The guidance was developed by a task force of national leaders with student-athlete opportunity at the forefront of discussions. Specifically, the guidance defines as a booster any third-party entity that promotes an athletics program, assists with recruiting or assists with providing benefits to recruits, enrolled student-athletes or their family members. The definition could include "collectives" set up to funnel name, image and likeness deals to prospective student-athletes or enrolled student-athletes who might be considering transferring. NCAA recruiting rules preclude boosters from recruiting and/or providing benefits to prospective student-athletes.
The guidance is effective immediately. For violations that occurred prior to May 9, 2022, the board directed the enforcement staff to review the facts of individual cases but to pursue only those actions that clearly are contrary to the published interim policy, including the most severe violations of recruiting rules or payment for athletics performance. Schools are reminded of their obligation to report any potential violations through the traditional self-reporting process.
"Today, the Division I Board of Directors took a significant first step to address some of the challenges and improper behaviors that exist in the name, image and likeness environment that may violate our long-established recruiting rules. While the NCAA may pursue the most outrageous violations that were clearly contrary to the interim policy adopted last summer, our focus is on the future. The new guidance establishes a common set of expectations for the Division I institutions moving forward, and the board expects all Division I institutions to follow our recruiting rules and operate within these reasonable expectations," said board chair Jere Morehead, president, University of Georgia.
https://www.ncaa.org/news/2022/5/9/media...hools.aspx
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RE: Will Texas A&M receive a spanking from the NCAA?
The NCAA should be more scared of getting a spanking from the court system if it tries to enforce these rules.
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RE: Will Texas A&M receive a spanking from the NCAA?
(05-22-2022 01:14 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: The NCAA should be more scared of getting a spanking from the court system if it tries to enforce these rules.
They could hit Texas A&M with a lack of institutional control if the booster have communicated directly or indirectly with the players.
With the new rules on head coaches liability for all coaching staff violations coming in with the transformation committee if the NCAA found a recruiting coordinator (now considered coach) liable Texas A&M could terminate Jimbo Fisher's contract with cause to make the problem go away.
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RE: Will Texas A&M receive a spanking from the NCAA?
(05-22-2022 01:25 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote: (05-22-2022 01:14 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: The NCAA should be more scared of getting a spanking from the court system if it tries to enforce these rules.
They could hit Texas A&M with a lack of institutional control if the booster have communicated directly or indirectly with the players.
With the new rules on head coaches liability for all coaching staff violations coming in with the transformation committee if the NCAA found a recruiting coordinator (now considered coach) liable Texas A&M could terminate Jimbo Fisher's contract with cause to make the problem go away.
I don't think the new rules will be found enforceable by the courts.
And I think Texas AM is happy with Jimbo Fisher and has no desire to terminate his contract for any reason, especially not NCAA related stuff.
I suspect that the powers that be at TAMU are very happy with how NIL is being handled at the school and with the #1 ranked recruiting class Jimbo has brought on.
But we'll see.
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RE: Will Texas A&M receive a spanking from the NCAA?
(05-22-2022 01:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (05-22-2022 01:25 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote: (05-22-2022 01:14 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: The NCAA should be more scared of getting a spanking from the court system if it tries to enforce these rules.
They could hit Texas A&M with a lack of institutional control if the booster have communicated directly or indirectly with the players.
With the new rules on head coaches liability for all coaching staff violations coming in with the transformation committee if the NCAA found a recruiting coordinator (now considered coach) liable Texas A&M could terminate Jimbo Fisher's contract with cause to make the problem go away.
I don't think the new rules will be found enforceable by the courts.
And I think Texas AM is happy with Jimbo Fisher and has no desire to terminate his contract for any reason, especially not NCAA related stuff.
I suspect that the powers that be at TAMU are very happy with how NIL is being handled at the school and with the #1 ranked recruiting class Jimbo has brought on.
But we'll see.
I believe this is less about the courts but that with this guidance out every AD in the country is going to steer towards following the guidance as a SOP. There could even be a sequence of conference rules coming down on this to support the guidance.
With money going straight to the players there is no reason to over pay for HC's any more. I can see where the expanded definition of clause can be used to get rid of a pricey staff and bring a new one in for half the rate.
For Texas A&M the punishment might be retroactive. If they go 8-4 next year with that paid off recruiting class the AD might say well it was stinky what you did and the boosters were in conversation with the recruiting coordinator therefor "see ya"
Just because the NCAA has been quiet doesn't mean they've lost influence. They've kept a low profile to limit media attention.
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RE: Will Texas A&M receive a spanking from the NCAA?
I think it would be foolish of the NCAA to enforce their NIL rules until such time as a) the courts rule them legal (unlikely) or b) Congress makes them decidedly legal (also unlikely). Doing so would just invite more lawsuits they'll probably lose.
On the other hand, not enforcing those rules would mean risking the natural experiment of what amounts to open pay for play (albeit from boosters) disproving the only anti-pay for play argument the NCAA has ever had any success with in antitrust court, which is that pay for play would significantly harm demand for the product. One thing's certain, the ratings of this year's A&M/Bama game ain't dropping. :D
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RE: Will Texas A&M receive a spanking from the NCAA?
(05-22-2022 01:25 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote: (05-22-2022 01:14 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: The NCAA should be more scared of getting a spanking from the court system if it tries to enforce these rules.
They could hit Texas A&M with a lack of institutional control if the booster have communicated directly or indirectly with the players.
With the new rules on head coaches liability for all coaching staff violations coming in with the transformation committee if the NCAA found a recruiting coordinator (now considered coach) liable Texas A&M could terminate Jimbo Fisher's contract with cause to make the problem go away.
Let me know when someone actually has a fact that anything been speculated on A&M doing illegal NIL deals is actually true.
The owner of Texags researched those from the recruiting class of 22 that enrolled this spring semester actually had NIL deals. There was 1. Just 1.
It is against the law in Texas to offer or sign an NIL deal before signing on the dotted line with a school.
I know everyone is jaded about this stuff and I doubt you will change your mind.
Bottom line, both OU and Bama have a reason to throw throw this junk out to try and stem some of the recruiting momentum.
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RE: Will Texas A&M receive a spanking from the NCAA?
(05-22-2022 01:11 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote: Quote:The guidance was developed by a task force of national leaders with student-athlete opportunity at the forefront of discussions. Specifically, the guidance defines as a booster any third-party entity that promotes an athletics program, assists with recruiting or assists with providing benefits to recruits, enrolled student-athletes or their family members. The definition could include "collectives" set up to funnel name, image and likeness deals to prospective student-athletes or enrolled student-athletes who might be considering transferring. NCAA recruiting rules preclude boosters from recruiting and/or providing benefits to prospective student-athletes.
The guidance is effective immediately. For violations that occurred prior to May 9, 2022, the board directed the enforcement staff to review the facts of individual cases but to pursue only those actions that clearly are contrary to the published interim policy, including the most severe violations of recruiting rules or payment for athletics performance. Schools are reminded of their obligation to report any potential violations through the traditional self-reporting process.
"Today, the Division I Board of Directors took a significant first step to address some of the challenges and improper behaviors that exist in the name, image and likeness environment that may violate our long-established recruiting rules. While the NCAA may pursue the most outrageous violations that were clearly contrary to the interim policy adopted last summer, our focus is on the future. The new guidance establishes a common set of expectations for the Division I institutions moving forward, and the board expects all Division I institutions to follow our recruiting rules and operate within these reasonable expectations," said board chair Jere Morehead, president, University of Georgia.
https://www.ncaa.org/news/2022/5/9/media...hools.aspx
Lol .... No ...
The NCAA is a walking, talking Antitrust Violation ...
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RE: Will Texas A&M receive a spanking from the NCAA?
(05-22-2022 05:18 PM)EKUSteve Wrote: (05-22-2022 01:25 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote: (05-22-2022 01:14 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: The NCAA should be more scared of getting a spanking from the court system if it tries to enforce these rules.
They could hit Texas A&M with a lack of institutional control if the booster have communicated directly or indirectly with the players.
With the new rules on head coaches liability for all coaching staff violations coming in with the transformation committee if the NCAA found a recruiting coordinator (now considered coach) liable Texas A&M could terminate Jimbo Fisher's contract with cause to make the problem go away.
Let me know when someone actually has a fact that anything been speculated on A&M doing illegal NIL deals is actually true.
The owner of Texags researched those from the recruiting class of 22 that enrolled this spring semester actually had NIL deals. There was 1. Just 1.
It is against the law in Texas to offer or sign an NIL deal before signing on the dotted line with a school.
I know everyone is jaded about this stuff and I doubt you will change your mind.
I'm asking the question because I don't know what is going to ultimately happen.
Most of the posters here don't think the NCAA will even look into it less find something aggravated.
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RE: Will Texas A&M receive a spanking from the NCAA?
https//:alcalde.texasexes.org
UT alumni magazine talks about how it has been done at Texas
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RE: Will West Texas A&M receive a spanking from the NCAA?
(05-22-2022 01:11 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote: Quote:The guidance was developed by a task force of national leaders with student-athlete opportunity at the forefront of discussions. Specifically, the guidance defines as a booster any third-party entity that promotes an athletics program, assists with recruiting or assists with providing benefits to recruits, enrolled student-athletes or their family members. The definition could include "collectives" set up to funnel name, image and likeness deals to prospective student-athletes or enrolled student-athletes who might be considering transferring. NCAA recruiting rules preclude boosters from recruiting and/or providing benefits to prospective student-athletes.
The guidance is effective immediately. For violations that occurred prior to May 9, 2022, the board directed the enforcement staff to review the facts of individual cases but to pursue only those actions that clearly are contrary to the published interim policy, including the most severe violations of recruiting rules or payment for athletics performance. Schools are reminded of their obligation to report any potential violations through the traditional self-reporting process.
"Today, the Division I Board of Directors took a significant first step to address some of the challenges and improper behaviors that exist in the name, image and likeness environment that may violate our long-established recruiting rules. While the NCAA may pursue the most outrageous violations that were clearly contrary to the interim policy adopted last summer, our focus is on the future. The new guidance establishes a common set of expectations for the Division I institutions moving forward, and the board expects all Division I institutions to follow our recruiting rules and operate within these reasonable expectations," said board chair Jere Morehead, president, University of Georgia.
https://www.ncaa.org/news/2022/5/9/media...hools.aspx
Fixed the Title For You.
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