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The name of this section should be changed from normal threads to left wing circle jerk.

(06-04-2022 05:19 PM)GRBRONCO Wrote:  The name of this section should be changed from normal threads to left wing circle jerk.

The truth will set you free.

(06-04-2022 05:19 PM)GRBRONCO Wrote:  The name of this section should be changed from normal threads to left wing circle jerk.

Should be a wakeup call for you

(06-04-2022 08:25 AM)Brownandgoldlaker Wrote:  

(06-03-2022 11:58 AM)GRBRONCO Wrote:  

(06-03-2022 11:36 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  

(06-03-2022 11:15 AM)GRBRONCO Wrote:  

(06-03-2022 10:51 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  I'm allowed to have opinions just like anyone else. If you disagree with what I've said, feel free to speak up.

The candidates are just taking advantage of Whitmer's completely asinine dictatorship and publicity tour during the pandemic, that stats now show did absolutely nothing to prevent deaths. Buy hey, she got an SNL character out of it!

The school shut-downs had an immense impact on children's mental health. Suicides, ODs, and murders all went up.

Also, Tudor is hot AF!

The link between Covid shutdowns and children's mental health is speculation. It has no doubt affected them, but can we prove that Covid lockdowns have caused more violent behavior in youth? Probably not. That research will take years, considering Covid isn't even over, and will likely be inconclusive because there are so many other factors at play (changes in social media, changes in home life, access to firearms, etc)

Suicides and ODs had also been going up for years before Covid. Violent crime has spiked over the last two years, true. What are some solutions?

As for the rare school shooting, I don't think there is an easy answer for that, mostly all result from extremely poor parenting or psychotic people. Need to figure out how to keep guns from these people. More background checks and increasing legal age to 21 on certain guns may help but probably not much.

Does anyone really think increasing the legal age to own certain guns to 21 would have made a difference with a Uvalde type school shooter? If he is crazy/sick at 18, he would be crazy/sick at 21, 22, 23.... And if he couldn't get certain guns at 18, he would have used what ever guns that would be available to him, i.e. a shotgun and or rifle. And if he couldn't get any type of a gun, he would just get a car/truck and mow over a group of kids standing at a bus stop.

Yes. If he has to wait until he's 21 to get an AR-15, he might do something stupid in those three years short of killing 21 people that keeps him from ever legally buying one. He might buy or attempt to buy them illegally and get busted for that. He might get impatient and use a shotgun which will kill 2 and wound 4 before he's stopped trying to reload. He might steal a truck and aim for a bus stop and hit three kids, one of which is paralyzed for life. He might even mature enough to decide that he'd rather do anything else instead. All of those choices are a better option and don't even threaten people's Second Amendment rights.

(06-04-2022 08:25 AM)Brownandgoldlaker Wrote:  

(06-03-2022 11:58 AM)GRBRONCO Wrote:  

(06-03-2022 11:36 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  

(06-03-2022 11:15 AM)GRBRONCO Wrote:  

(06-03-2022 10:51 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  I'm allowed to have opinions just like anyone else. If you disagree with what I've said, feel free to speak up.

The candidates are just taking advantage of Whitmer's completely asinine dictatorship and publicity tour during the pandemic, that stats now show did absolutely nothing to prevent deaths. Buy hey, she got an SNL character out of it!

The school shut-downs had an immense impact on children's mental health. Suicides, ODs, and murders all went up.

Also, Tudor is hot AF!

The link between Covid shutdowns and children's mental health is speculation. It has no doubt affected them, but can we prove that Covid lockdowns have caused more violent behavior in youth? Probably not. That research will take years, considering Covid isn't even over, and will likely be inconclusive because there are so many other factors at play (changes in social media, changes in home life, access to firearms, etc)

Suicides and ODs had also been going up for years before Covid. Violent crime has spiked over the last two years, true. What are some solutions?

As for the rare school shooting, I don't think there is an easy answer for that, mostly all result from extremely poor parenting or psychotic people. Need to figure out how to keep guns from these people. More background checks and increasing legal age to 21 on certain guns may help but probably not much.

Does anyone really think increasing the legal age to own certain guns to 21 would have made a difference with a Uvalde type school shooter? If he is crazy/sick at 18, he would be crazy/sick at 21, 22, 23.... And if he couldn't get certain guns at 18, he would have used what ever guns that would be available to him, i.e. a shotgun and or rifle. And if he couldn't get any type of a gun, he would just get a car/truck and mow over a group of kids standing at a bus stop.

Crazy is crazy, that's the really issue and needs to be the focus, along with school security. And what about the school and social services? Reading about this kids upbringing and troubles, he clearly was a ticking time bomb that should have been identified long before he turned 18. The system defiantly failed him.

Well it has been proven that human brains don't fully mature until our early to mid 20s, so maybe raising the minimum age to buy firearms is a good idea. Can't drink until 21, can't even rent a car until you're 25 or something like that. Why should a kid that just turned 18 be able to walk in to a gun store, buy two semi-automatic rifles on credit, with no waiting period, no mental competency exam, no extensive background check...and just walk out and kill a bunch of kids. That's exactly what happened in Uvalde.

Why is the right wing response to this just a collective shrug? You say mental health, social services, teachers and school staff...but the GOP wants to cut funding to mental health services, social services, and education. There are really basic suggestions around making it more difficult to buy firearms, especially for young people, domestic abusers, the mentally unstable, but certain people just have a melt down and cry "oppression" and claim that we're trying to take their guns away. They cling to their guns like old ladies clutching their pearls. Right wing pundits have convinced them to be afraid all the time, to the point where they need an arsenal in their home. They're so scared and paranoid, afraid of their own shadows. If anyone needs mental health services, it's those people.

And I hear all this garbage about arming teachers, which is so dumb on so many levels. But the narrative keeps coming back to putting more responsibilities on teachers. Schools are already struggling to hire people, because it's a crap job. I have several music teacher friends, and hearing them talk about work is brutal. They work 60-70 hours a week and often have to do things at home as well. The pay is crap and they have to deal with angry parents, bureaucratic school systems, zero budget, etc... Now they have to worry about fighting off armed attackers or being human shields for their students? Teachers are leaving the profession left and right, and we want to put MORE responsibility on them? Like, life or death type stuff? They aren't cops. They are TEACHERS.

I just don't get this logic. "crazy is crazy"...okay, then what are we actually doing to stop crazy people from shooting up schools and churches and shopping malls and theaters? You want to put an armed guard in every room of every building in the country? Maybe we can tackle the common denominator instead.

The link between Covid shutdowns and children's mental health is speculation. It has no doubt affected them, but can we prove that Covid lockdowns have caused more violent behavior in youth? Probably not. That research will take years, considering Covid isn't even over, and will likely be inconclusive because there are so many other factors at play (changes in social media, changes in home life, access to firearms, etc)

Suicides and ODs had also been going up for years before Covid. Violent crime has spiked over the last two years, true. What are some solutions?
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As for the rare school shooting, I don't think there is an easy answer for that, mostly all result from extremely poor parenting or psychotic people. Need to figure out how to keep guns from these people. More background checks and increasing legal age to 21 on certain guns may help but probably not much.
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Does anyone really think increasing the legal age to own certain guns to 21 would have made a difference with a Uvalde type school shooter? If he is crazy/sick at 18, he would be crazy/sick at 21, 22, 23.... And if he couldn't get certain guns at 18, he would have used what ever guns that would be available to him, i.e. a shotgun and or rifle. And if he couldn't get any type of a gun, he would just get a car/truck and mow over a group of kids standing at a bus stop.

Crazy is crazy, that's the really issue and needs to be the focus, along with school security. And what about the school and social services? Reading about this kids upbringing and troubles, he clearly was a ticking time bomb that should have been identified long before he turned 18. The system defiantly failed him.
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Well it has been proven that human brains don't fully mature until our early to mid 20s, so maybe raising the minimum age to buy firearms is a good idea. Can't drink until 21, can't even rent a car until you're 25 or something like that. Why should a kid that just turned 18 be able to walk in to a gun store, buy two semi-automatic rifles on credit, with no waiting period, no mental competency exam, no extensive background check...and just walk out and kill a bunch of kids. That's exactly what happened in Uvalde.

Why is the right wing response to this just a collective shrug? You say mental health, social services, teachers and school staff...but the GOP wants to cut funding to mental health services, social services, and education. There are really basic suggestions around making it more difficult to buy firearms, especially for young people, domestic abusers, the mentally unstable, but certain people just have a melt down and cry "oppression" and claim that we're trying to take their guns away. They cling to their guns like old ladies clutching their pearls. Right wing pundits have convinced them to be afraid all the time, to the point where they need an arsenal in their home. They're so scared and paranoid, afraid of their own shadows. If anyone needs mental health services, it's those people.

And I hear all this garbage about arming teachers, which is so dumb on so many levels. But the narrative keeps coming back to putting more responsibilities on teachers. Schools are already struggling to hire people, because it's a crap job. I have several music teacher friends, and hearing them talk about work is brutal. They work 60-70 hours a week and often have to do things at home as well. The pay is crap and they have to deal with angry parents, bureaucratic school systems, zero budget, etc... Now they have to worry about fighting off armed attackers or being human shields for their students? Teachers are leaving the profession left and right, and we want to put MORE responsibility on them? Like, life or death type stuff? They aren't cops. They are TEACHERS.

I just don't get this logic. "crazy is crazy"...okay, then what are we actually doing to stop crazy people from shooting up schools and churches and shopping malls and theaters? You want to put an armed guard in every room of every building in the country? Maybe we can tackle the common denominator instead.
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Thank you for a rational comment. To do nothing is insane. The simple acts of raising the age, background checks, security of weapons laws, etc. don't hurt
law abiding gun owners. If raising the age and checking licenses don't matter, why bother with liquor, automobile licenses and having ID's checked to purchase booze. Hell, why do we have to wear seatbelts. Or helmets when riding a motorcycle. The POLICE don't want all these weapons in everybody's hand and want something down.

The link between Covid shutdowns and children's mental health is speculation. It has no doubt affected them, but can we prove that Covid lockdowns have caused more violent behavior in youth? Probably not. That research will take years, considering Covid isn't even over, and will likely be inconclusive because there are so many other factors at play (changes in social media, changes in home life, access to firearms, etc)

Suicides and ODs had also been going up for years before Covid. Violent crime has spiked over the last two years, true. What are some solutions?
[/quote]

As for the rare school shooting, I don't think there is an easy answer for that, mostly all result from extremely poor parenting or psychotic people. Need to figure out how to keep guns from these people. More background checks and increasing legal age to 21 on certain guns may help but probably not much.
[/quote]

Does anyone really think increasing the legal age to own certain guns to 21 would have made a difference with a Uvalde type school shooter? If he is crazy/sick at 18, he would be crazy/sick at 21, 22, 23.... And if he couldn't get certain guns at 18, he would have used what ever guns that would be available to him, i.e. a shotgun and or rifle. And if he couldn't get any type of a gun, he would just get a car/truck and mow over a group of kids standing at a bus stop.

Crazy is crazy, that's the really issue and needs to be the focus, along with school security. And what about the school and social services? Reading about this kids upbringing and troubles, he clearly was a ticking time bomb that should have been identified long before he turned 18. The system defiantly failed him.
[/quote]

Well it has been proven that human brains don't fully mature until our early to mid 20s, so maybe raising the minimum age to buy firearms is a good idea. Can't drink until 21, can't even rent a car until you're 25 or something like that. Why should a kid that just turned 18 be able to walk in to a gun store, buy two semi-automatic rifles on credit, with no waiting period, no mental competency exam, no extensive background check...and just walk out and kill a bunch of kids. That's exactly what happened in Uvalde.

Why is the right wing response to this just a collective shrug? You say mental health, social services, teachers and school staff...but the GOP wants to cut funding to mental health services, social services, and education. There are really basic suggestions around making it more difficult to buy firearms, especially for young people, domestic abusers, the mentally unstable, but certain people just have a melt down and cry "oppression" and claim that we're trying to take their guns away. They cling to their guns like old ladies clutching their pearls. Right wing pundits have convinced them to be afraid all the time, to the point where they need an arsenal in their home. They're so scared and paranoid, afraid of their own shadows. If anyone needs mental health services, it's those people.

And I hear all this garbage about arming teachers, which is so dumb on so many levels. But the narrative keeps coming back to putting more responsibilities on teachers. Schools are already struggling to hire people, because it's a crap job. I have several music teacher friends, and hearing them talk about work is brutal. They work 60-70 hours a week and often have to do things at home as well. The pay is crap and they have to deal with angry parents, bureaucratic school systems, zero budget, etc... Now they have to worry about fighting off armed attackers or being human shields for their students? Teachers are leaving the profession left and right, and we want to put MORE responsibility on them? Like, life or death type stuff? They aren't cops. They are TEACHERS.

I just don't get this logic. "crazy is crazy"...okay, then what are we actually doing to stop crazy people from shooting up schools and churches and shopping malls and theaters? You want to put an armed guard in every room of every building in the country? Maybe we can tackle the common denominator instead.
[/quote]

Thank you for a rational comment. To do nothing is insane. The simple acts of raising the age, background checks, security of weapons laws, etc. don't hurt
law abiding gun owners. If raising the age and checking licenses don't matter, why bother with liquor, automobile licenses and having ID's checked to purchase booze. Hell, why do we have to wear seatbelts. Or helmets when riding a motorcycle. The POLICE don't want all these weapons in everybody's hand and want something down.

Yes, all of these reasonable laws put in place together would reduce mass shootings. Would they eliminate them? Of course not.

This Uvalde kid asked his sister to buy him a gun when he was 17. She said no. If Texas had red flag laws, this kid should've been red flagged when that happened. If he also had to wait another 3 years to turn 21, lots of things could happen to a mentally unstable person. Maybe, he could actually get help and stop being a danger to society. If it goes bad & he gets in trouble, better background checks could prevent him from buying a gun at 21.

What is the counterpoint to doing nothing and just hoping these mass shootings go away? We've tried that strategy for the last 20 years and I think we have enough evidence to show it ain't working.

Most of the GOP governor's allowed fraudsters to collect signatures for their petitions. If they can't even manage that process honestly why should we trust them to run the entire state? Anyone who tells you that the 2020 election was stolen or January 6 was an act of patriotism is not worthy of being elected to public office of any kind. Facts matter. Truth matters. Science matters. We need people in government who will guided by facts science and truth. Not fascist fairy tales.

This guy probably has CTE.

(06-06-2022 12:38 AM)holybovine Wrote:  This guy probably has CTE.

He is a charlatan with no core principles.

(06-06-2022 08:29 AM)broncofan1 Wrote:  

(06-06-2022 12:38 AM)holybovine Wrote:  This guy probably has CTE.

He is a charlatan with no core principles.

Just like Trump then.

(06-06-2022 08:33 AM)MajorHoople Wrote:  

(06-06-2022 08:29 AM)broncofan1 Wrote:  

(06-06-2022 12:38 AM)holybovine Wrote:  This guy probably has CTE.

He is a charlatan with no core principles.

Just like Trump then.

Correct. Trump is who inspired him into politics.

(06-06-2022 08:33 AM)MajorHoople Wrote:  

(06-06-2022 08:29 AM)broncofan1 Wrote:  

(06-06-2022 12:38 AM)holybovine Wrote:  This guy probably has CTE.

He is a charlatan with no core principles.

Just like Trump then.

Come on!!! Seriously? Freakin libtards.

He has core principles. How could you say he doesn't?

Grab power, forbid ethics and morals, be bad at golf, have an awful spray-tan.

(06-06-2022 03:19 PM)moe24 Wrote:  Grab power, forbid ethics and morals, be bad at golf, have an awful spray-tan.

Are we talking about Soldano or Dump? Dumb question, I know.

Hey GRBRONCO, is this your murder machine? BUT BUT BUT WHAT'S WRONG WITH MUH TRUCK?

(06-07-2022 10:47 AM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  Hey GRBRONCO, is this your murder machine? BUT BUT BUT WHAT'S WRONG WITH MUH TRUCK?

No that's not mine. Looks to be in Ontario. Are you going around and taking pics of little girls again? A little creepy....

Back to the topic of this thread.

Soldano doesn't care about WMU - only the identity it brings him as a former player. If he cared about Western, he would actually help Western. He doesn't. His policy ideas would be devastating for WMU.

(06-07-2022 11:02 AM)broncofan1 Wrote:  Back to the topic of this thread.

Soldano doesn't care about WMU - only the identity it brings him as a former player. If he cared about Western, he would actually help Western. He doesn't. His policy ideas would be devastating for WMU.

That about sums it up.

(06-06-2022 08:35 PM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  

(06-06-2022 03:19 PM)moe24 Wrote:  Grab power, forbid ethics and morals, be bad at golf, have an awful spray-tan.

Are we talking about Soldano or Dump? Dumb question, I know.

Yes