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I don't get why the big secret? If someone knows the real answer what's the harm in saying it? Clearly some people know the answer. These games are juvenile.

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(05-19-2022 01:31 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 12:47 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 12:34 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 12:23 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  I mentioned this a few posts earlier but a few years ago, ODU realigned its OOC schedule to ensure than one of VCU and Richmond would come to Norfolk every season, and they would go to Richmond every season (before both games would either be home or away in the same season). The understanding was that it was a sign of a long term commitment to play two of their three biggest rivals for the foreseeable future. If that has changed, I don’t see how that’s not a terrible sign for ODU, regardless of who initiated it. Either they think they’re too good for ODU, or ODU thinks they’re not good enough for them. Maybe there’s a reasonable explanation that doesn’t augur poorly for Monarchs basketball but unless they’re pushing back one or both series to accommodate a big time opponent, well, to quote Lars Ulrich: All that I see, absolute horror.

The reason could have nothing to do with this post.

OK. What are some reasonable explanations? Here’s what I’m coming up with off the top of my butt:
* VCU/UR no longer want to play ODU
* ODU no longer wants to play VCU/UR
* Some sort of neutral site event where ODU plays one or both
* Brief suspension of the series to clear the way for an attractive opponent
* Sun Belt and/or A10 going to a 20-game schedule and OOC games have to be shed
* Major repairs forcing someone to play on the road or in a small gym for an extended period
* VCU/UR/Dayton/Saint Louis joining the Sun Belt
* College basketball ceases to exist
* Monkeypox kills us all
One of those, more than one, or off the board?

All those options and you still missed it. Shame.

So a different kind of pox?

(05-19-2022 01:40 PM)bench jockey Wrote:  I don't get why the big secret? If someone knows the real answer what's the harm in saying it? Clearly some people know the answer. These games are juvenile.

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It has not been made public so it is not my place to tell. I just wanted to responded bc people are blaming ODU for this. And then it was switched it its ODUs fault they suck. But, those aren't the reasons.

(05-19-2022 02:03 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 01:40 PM)bench jockey Wrote:  I don't get why the big secret? If someone knows the real answer what's the harm in saying it? Clearly some people know the answer. These games are juvenile.

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It has not been made public so it is not my place to tell. I just wanted to responded bc people are blaming ODU for this. And then it was switched it its ODUs fault they suck. But, those aren't the reasons.

BJ is right, this is juvenile. Don’t call out the wrong answers if your not going to give us the right one. If it was truly secretive you would have just shut your mouth and said nothing.

(05-19-2022 01:31 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 12:47 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 12:34 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 12:23 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  I mentioned this a few posts earlier but a few years ago, ODU realigned its OOC schedule to ensure than one of VCU and Richmond would come to Norfolk every season, and they would go to Richmond every season (before both games would either be home or away in the same season). The understanding was that it was a sign of a long term commitment to play two of their three biggest rivals for the foreseeable future. If that has changed, I don’t see how that’s not a terrible sign for ODU, regardless of who initiated it. Either they think they’re too good for ODU, or ODU thinks they’re not good enough for them. Maybe there’s a reasonable explanation that doesn’t augur poorly for Monarchs basketball but unless they’re pushing back one or both series to accommodate a big time opponent, well, to quote Lars Ulrich: All that I see, absolute horror.

The reason could have nothing to do with this post.

OK. What are some reasonable explanations? Here’s what I’m coming up with off the top of my butt:
* VCU/UR no longer want to play ODU
* ODU no longer wants to play VCU/UR
* Some sort of neutral site event where ODU plays one or both
* Brief suspension of the series to clear the way for an attractive opponent
* Sun Belt and/or A10 going to a 20-game schedule and OOC games have to be shed
* Major repairs forcing someone to play on the road or in a small gym for an extended period
* VCU/UR/Dayton/Saint Louis joining the Sun Belt
* College basketball ceases to exist
* Monkeypox kills us all
One of those, more than one, or off the board?

All those options and you still missed it. Shame.

What is the deal. Sound like little kids with all these secrets. If you have some info, just tell us. I’m with Cyclone on this, he makes valid points and the reply is that he’s not smart enough to figure it out. How childish.

(05-19-2022 02:14 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 02:03 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 01:40 PM)bench jockey Wrote:  I don't get why the big secret? If someone knows the real answer what's the harm in saying it? Clearly some people know the answer. These games are juvenile.

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It has not been made public so it is not my place to tell. I just wanted to responded bc people are blaming ODU for this. And then it was switched it its ODUs fault they suck. But, those aren't the reasons.

BJ is right, this is juvenile. Don’t call out the wrong answers if your not going to give us the right one. If it was truly secretive you would have just shut your mouth and said nothing.

We're peasants, some like to tout their insider knowledge without sharing anything significant.

Guess they really feel somewhere down the line that Johnny is going to tell Sam, who told Rich, who told Jason, who told Mike, who told Brian that Stat Geek and ODUDrunkard13 were spreading inside info on the Monarchs Den forums.

Is that right? Tuck those tails ladies...

(05-19-2022 02:14 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 02:03 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 01:40 PM)bench jockey Wrote:  I don't get why the big secret? If someone knows the real answer what's the harm in saying it? Clearly some people know the answer. These games are juvenile.

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It has not been made public so it is not my place to tell. I just wanted to responded bc people are blaming ODU for this. And then it was switched it its ODUs fault they suck. But, those aren't the reasons.

BJ is right, this is juvenile. Don’t call out the wrong answers if your not going to give us the right one. If it was truly secretive you would have just shut your mouth and said nothing.

Alright, lets just get everyone fired up blaming ODU then...

There are some posters on here (generally not me) that have a lot of knowledge about what the real story is. If you would rather get no info, sobeit.

Im appreciative of the nuggets that Drunkard, Cal, and others provide.

(05-19-2022 01:28 PM)TribeinVB Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 12:47 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 12:34 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 12:23 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  I mentioned this a few posts earlier but a few years ago, ODU realigned its OOC schedule to ensure than one of VCU and Richmond would come to Norfolk every season, and they would go to Richmond every season (before both games would either be home or away in the same season). The understanding was that it was a sign of a long term commitment to play two of their three biggest rivals for the foreseeable future. If that has changed, I don’t see how that’s not a terrible sign for ODU, regardless of who initiated it. Either they think they’re too good for ODU, or ODU thinks they’re not good enough for them. Maybe there’s a reasonable explanation that doesn’t augur poorly for Monarchs basketball but unless they’re pushing back one or both series to accommodate a big time opponent, well, to quote Lars Ulrich: All that I see, absolute horror.

The reason could have nothing to do with this post.

OK. What are some reasonable explanations? Here’s what I’m coming up with off the top of my butt:
* VCU/UR no longer want to play ODU
* ODU no longer wants to play VCU/UR
* Some sort of neutral site event where ODU plays one or both
* Brief suspension of the series to clear the way for an attractive opponent
* Sun Belt and/or A10 going to a 20-game schedule and OOC games have to be shed
* Major repairs forcing someone to play on the road or in a small gym for an extended period
* VCU/UR/Dayton/Saint Louis joining the Sun Belt
* College basketball ceases to exist
* Monkeypox kills us all
One of those, more than one, or off the board?

- ODU asked for invite to A10 when CUSA was collapsing, A10 was willing and then ODU spurned them when SunBelt worked out (pure unadulterated speculation which if it had any truth would drive me crazy since I'd love to see us playing A10 basketball).

This is correct. At no point did A10 entertain adding ODU during the most recent conference alignments. Also, at no point did ODU entertain the thought of having FB be an independent member.

(05-19-2022 02:26 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 02:14 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 02:03 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 01:40 PM)bench jockey Wrote:  I don't get why the big secret? If someone knows the real answer what's the harm in saying it? Clearly some people know the answer. These games are juvenile.

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It has not been made public so it is not my place to tell. I just wanted to responded bc people are blaming ODU for this. And then it was switched it its ODUs fault they suck. But, those aren't the reasons.

BJ is right, this is juvenile. Don’t call out the wrong answers if your not going to give us the right one. If it was truly secretive you would have just shut your mouth and said nothing.

Alright, lets just get everyone fired up blaming ODU then...

There are some posters on here (generally not me) that have a lot of knowledge about what the real story is. If you would rather get no info, sobeit.

Im appreciative of the nuggets that Drunkard, Cal, and others provide.

You are free to argue for some other reason. It doesn’t even have to be the right reason.

If this were all true, I'm interested to see how we recover scheduling wise. Would be rough since it would have to be a change from our Former-CAA Virginia schools philosophy. I wonder how hard we burned a bridge with the C-USA teams? I would love to play La Tech or WKU again in basketball, maybe start a series with Liberty MBB.

Hopefully we don't just schedule tomato cans. A home schedule made up of UMES's and a Sun Belt teams doesn't make that attractive of a schedule outside of JMU, Marshall, Ga State, and South Alabama.

(05-19-2022 02:26 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 02:14 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 02:03 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 01:40 PM)bench jockey Wrote:  I don't get why the big secret? If someone knows the real answer what's the harm in saying it? Clearly some people know the answer. These games are juvenile.

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It has not been made public so it is not my place to tell. I just wanted to responded bc people are blaming ODU for this. And then it was switched it its ODUs fault they suck. But, those aren't the reasons.

BJ is right, this is juvenile. Don’t call out the wrong answers if your not going to give us the right one. If it was truly secretive you would have just shut your mouth and said nothing.

Alright, lets just get everyone fired up blaming ODU then...

There are some posters on here (generally not me) that have a lot of knowledge about what the real story is. If you would rather get no info, sobeit.

Im appreciative of the nuggets that Drunkard, Cal, and others provide.

What information has acutally been provided?

(05-19-2022 02:37 PM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 02:26 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 02:14 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 02:03 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 01:40 PM)bench jockey Wrote:  I don't get why the big secret? If someone knows the real answer what's the harm in saying it? Clearly some people know the answer. These games are juvenile.

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It has not been made public so it is not my place to tell. I just wanted to responded bc people are blaming ODU for this. And then it was switched it its ODUs fault they suck. But, those aren't the reasons.

BJ is right, this is juvenile. Don’t call out the wrong answers if your not going to give us the right one. If it was truly secretive you would have just shut your mouth and said nothing.

Alright, lets just get everyone fired up blaming ODU then...

There are some posters on here (generally not me) that have a lot of knowledge about what the real story is. If you would rather get no info, sobeit.

Im appreciative of the nuggets that Drunkard, Cal, and others provide.

What information has acutally been provided?

That it is not ODUs fault.

Is the Atlantic 10 punishing or as least discouraging its teams from scheduling OOC against lower-ranking conferences?

I, for one, cannot wait for the spin job we get on odusports.com if generational rivalries go away for whatever reason. They better nut up and replace those two with legit games. Radford just got $85,000 to go to Notre Dame.

With no rivalry games, a worse bball conference and the results of the past few years, its time to get realistic and go after those bag games.

(05-19-2022 03:23 PM)Old Dom Swag Wrote:  I, for one, cannot wait for the spin job we get on odusports.com if generational rivalries go away for whatever reason. They better nut up and replace those two with legit games. Radford just got $85,000 to go to Notre Dame.

With no rivalry games, a worse bball conference and the results of the past few years, its time to get realistic and go after those bag games.

Truth. If we're losing games already why not get paid for them...sad

(05-19-2022 02:37 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  If this were all true, I'm interested to see how we recover scheduling wise. Would be rough since it would have to be a change from our Former-CAA Virginia schools philosophy. I wonder how hard we burned a bridge with the C-USA teams? I would love to play La Tech or WKU again in basketball, maybe start a series with Liberty MBB.

Hopefully we don't just schedule tomato cans. A home schedule made up of UMES's and a Sun Belt teams doesn't make that attractive of a schedule outside of JMU, Marshall, Ga State, and South Alabama.

This is how you get 16 seeds and start losing recruits to your cross town rival. I cant see the A10 schools dropping us for a feast of ACC and Big East teams though. Those conferences dont want to play them that much either. It would suck if it were because the A10 was doing some type of cross league showdown against the American or something considering how some of us wanted the AAC. It will be what it will be. Im just tired of the downward trend of this basketball program and would really love some positive momentum and reason for excitement again. Beating VCU is one of life's joys. Even if it hasnt happened enough in the last several years.

(05-19-2022 02:37 PM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 02:26 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 02:14 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 02:03 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 01:40 PM)bench jockey Wrote:  I don't get why the big secret? If someone knows the real answer what's the harm in saying it? Clearly some people know the answer. These games are juvenile.

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It has not been made public so it is not my place to tell. I just wanted to responded bc people are blaming ODU for this. And then it was switched it its ODUs fault they suck. But, those aren't the reasons.

BJ is right, this is juvenile. Don’t call out the wrong answers if your not going to give us the right one. If it was truly secretive you would have just shut your mouth and said nothing.

Alright, lets just get everyone fired up blaming ODU then...

There are some posters on here (generally not me) that have a lot of knowledge about what the real story is. If you would rather get no info, sobeit.

Im appreciative of the nuggets that Drunkard, Cal, and others provide.

What information has acutally been provided?

It is not an ODU decision.

(05-19-2022 04:56 PM)CalODUFan Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 02:37 PM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 02:26 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 02:14 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  

(05-19-2022 02:03 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  It has not been made public so it is not my place to tell. I just wanted to responded bc people are blaming ODU for this. And then it was switched it its ODUs fault they suck. But, those aren't the reasons.

BJ is right, this is juvenile. Don’t call out the wrong answers if your not going to give us the right one. If it was truly secretive you would have just shut your mouth and said nothing.

Alright, lets just get everyone fired up blaming ODU then...

There are some posters on here (generally not me) that have a lot of knowledge about what the real story is. If you would rather get no info, sobeit.

Im appreciative of the nuggets that Drunkard, Cal, and others provide.

What information has acutally been provided?

It is not an ODU decision.

Is it a VCU decision, or an A10 conference decision?

Go on Twitter and search ODU VCU. A couple of their fan accounts are loving the potential news.

If you dig through the replies enough their take away seems to be that either VCU or the A10 believes it is no longer a valuable series for the numbers.

(05-20-2022 09:54 AM)ShenValleyMonarch12 Wrote:  Go on Twitter and search ODU VCU. A couple of their fan accounts are loving the potential news.

If you dig through the replies enough their take away seems to be that either VCU or the A10 believes it is no longer a valuable series for the numbers.

Im not on the Birdie platform so thanks for sharing. Figured as much. Cant blame them for a decision like that when we're not a valuable opponent to them.