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Which “bubble” teams make the cut in a 2x24 P2?
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RE: Which “bubble” teams make the cut in a 2x24 P2?
Louisville and Miami are a lot higher on the revenue list than I’d expect.
05-16-2022 05:51 PM
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RE: Which “bubble” teams make the cut in a 2x24 P2?
(05-16-2022 01:47 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  Miami is not close to the bubble. Their value is the highest. I voted for Arizona, mostly because the Pac-12 California schools plus UW and Oregon are more likely to vote to bring them along than ASU. But in reality ASU is the more valuable property as far as fans go. Similar with Utah over BYU.

ASU however is probably in the UCF category, a massive student body but not thought of in the same level. Politics could also favor Utah over the more valuable BYU property.

If it came to pass the Pac-12 "merge" group with the B1G would be Cal, Stanford, USC, UCLA, UW, Oregon and CU. Arizona and Utah would be the political choices to bridge.

Of the ACC schools Notre Dame (if you count them ACC), UNC, UVa, Clemson, FSU and Miami are clearly the top values. It's not the past glory for Miami, it's the huge bank account, the identity of the city and the fact that the "State of Miami" is effectively a top 10 recruiting zone for students and athletes and a major market. That's too much to pass up.

The marginals people have getting in (besides Arizona and Utah) are Duke, Kansas and Virginia Tech; the first two are basketball schools, the latter falls in the same category as UCF, NC State and ASU (could say WSU but they have an isolation problem of geography which kills them). Pitt/WV combo would give you a metro, but then again Louisville and Cincy are similar.

I think we maybe undervalue Texas here. They could well wind up with a 3rd school.

I also think the clean geographic lines may not be followed. I could see the SEC grab Notre Dame and maybe even a Pitt or Syracuse over a borderline Southern school in a State they already control to increase their media package value. I could also see the B1G taking a southern school like Georgia Tech or Duke or a Miami (should the SEC foolishly pass on them) to extend their package value rather than a Utah or some other weak brand. When you get into the marginal brands, the market value and extending footprint could be the decisive factor. Drawing a bit from the other's turf is always worthwhile.

I’m highly skeptical of the chances of the Arizona schools, Utah, and Colorado.

I don’t think the Big 10 wants its Pacific voting block to be too strong and I don’t know that the 6 I counted as locks have the leverage to get 2 or 3 more of their conference mates into the club.

Admitting an 8 team division from the PAC 12 would leave the Big 10 room for just ND and one other.

I think Colorado might be able to sneak in as a 7th PAC 12 school depending on what other options are but I tend to think 7 is the absolute max.
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