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Did they mention if all seating will be converted to chair backs?
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(Today 08:53 AM)tigers18 Wrote:  Did they mention if all seating will be converted to chair backs?

Why would you want to raise all ticket prices because of chairbacks and remove the specialness of the ones that we do have?
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(Today 09:59 AM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(Today 08:53 AM)tigers18 Wrote:  Did they mention if all seating will be converted to chair backs?

Why would you want to raise all ticket prices because of chairbacks and remove the specialness of the ones that we do have?

They raised ticket pricing this year, with no upgrades. My seats went up $50 ea.

They gon' raise em again with the new.
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(Today 08:20 AM)Claw Wrote:  
(Today 12:12 AM)CRM114 Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 01:53 PM)Claw Wrote:  Keep in mind you aren't going to get that picture.

I believe they only plan on doing the west side of the picture .

There is no secured funding.

There are no completed architectural plans.

No contract bids.

And a completion date they couldn't meet if all of that was in place today.

I don't see how any of you can buy into something that is just a drawing. That is literally all it is.

The renderings don’t show much being done to the east side. Just a partial deconstruction of the suite tower to convert it into outdoor party decks and a cover over it with lights. Compared to all the demo and new construction on the west side, a relatively small share of the project cost, or impact.

If you think this proposal is just vapor, why you are complaining about it so much? I mean, if it’s not really going to happen this way then who knows, maybe you will get your beloved OCS after all.

Yes I am complaining about not getting an OCS.

However, the enthusiasm over this design baffles me, not because it's bad, but because it doesn't really exist. It's just an artist's rendering. They said themselves the design is fluid and that there are no final plans. I wouldn't trust them to deliver every single thing they promised anyway, but in fairness, with today's skyrocketing costs none of us should be surprised when corners have to be cut.

That all boils down to this. When you see what they can actually deliver at the Liberty Bowl, will that be worth never having an OCS? I hope you are all happy with the final result.

I think there is a real case for slowing down, planning big, and waiting for better economic conditions.

I don't think we can afford to slow down and wait for better economic conditions. We (the university) got into this position by waiting around and kicking the can down the road years ago. I think the driving force in doing it now and spending more than we should because of the economy is the timeline for conference expansion. Aren't the TV deals getting renegotiated around that time frame? And the UT/OU move to the SEC then? We have got to move now to show the university's investment in the program now to maybe be called up at the "last chance rodeo" then.

We all know the history of how these kinds of plans end up compared to the initial design. But we have farted away any chance we had before by doing nothing. The university (and all others involved...) is paying for their past lack of effort toward the health and growth of the football program.
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(Today 08:20 AM)Claw Wrote:  
(Today 12:12 AM)CRM114 Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 01:53 PM)Claw Wrote:  Keep in mind you aren't going to get that picture.

I believe they only plan on doing the west side of the picture .

There is no secured funding.

There are no completed architectural plans.

No contract bids.

And a completion date they couldn't meet if all of that was in place today.

I don't see how any of you can buy into something that is just a drawing. That is literally all it is.

The renderings don’t show much being done to the east side. Just a partial deconstruction of the suite tower to convert it into outdoor party decks and a cover over it with lights. Compared to all the demo and new construction on the west side, a relatively small share of the project cost, or impact.

If you think this proposal is just vapor, why you are complaining about it so much? I mean, if it’s not really going to happen this way then who knows, maybe you will get your beloved OCS after all.

Yes I am complaining about not getting an OCS.

However, the enthusiasm over this design baffles me, not because it's bad, but because it doesn't really exist. It's just an artist's rendering. They said themselves the design is fluid and that there are no final plans. I wouldn't trust them to deliver every single thing they promised anyway, but in fairness, with today's skyrocketing costs none of us should be surprised when corners have to be cut.

That all boils down to this. When you see what they can actually deliver at the Liberty Bowl, will that be worth never having an OCS? I hope you are all happy with the final result.

I think there is a real case for slowing down, planning big, and waiting for better economic conditions.

I want to disagree, but I can't. Pretty clear the city and UofM haven't even discussed yet.

I hope it works out, but if you don't have doubts about the end product and effect on conference realignment then you have a short memory or you're a new Tiger fan - which is GREAT! Welcome!
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(Today 10:13 AM)former guest Wrote:  
(Today 08:20 AM)Claw Wrote:  
(Today 12:12 AM)CRM114 Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 01:53 PM)Claw Wrote:  Keep in mind you aren't going to get that picture.

I believe they only plan on doing the west side of the picture .

There is no secured funding.

There are no completed architectural plans.

No contract bids.

And a completion date they couldn't meet if all of that was in place today.

I don't see how any of you can buy into something that is just a drawing. That is literally all it is.

The renderings don’t show much being done to the east side. Just a partial deconstruction of the suite tower to convert it into outdoor party decks and a cover over it with lights. Compared to all the demo and new construction on the west side, a relatively small share of the project cost, or impact.

If you think this proposal is just vapor, why you are complaining about it so much? I mean, if it’s not really going to happen this way then who knows, maybe you will get your beloved OCS after all.

Yes I am complaining about not getting an OCS.

However, the enthusiasm over this design baffles me, not because it's bad, but because it doesn't really exist. It's just an artist's rendering. They said themselves the design is fluid and that there are no final plans. I wouldn't trust them to deliver every single thing they promised anyway, but in fairness, with today's skyrocketing costs none of us should be surprised when corners have to be cut.

That all boils down to this. When you see what they can actually deliver at the Liberty Bowl, will that be worth never having an OCS? I hope you are all happy with the final result.

I think there is a real case for slowing down, planning big, and waiting for better economic conditions.

I don't think we can afford to slow down and wait for better economic conditions. We (the university) got into this position by waiting around and kicking the can down the road years ago. I think the driving force in doing it now and spending more than we should because of the economy is the timeline for conference expansion. Aren't the TV deals getting renegotiated around that time frame? And the UT/OU move to the SEC then? We have got to move now to show the university's investment in the program now to maybe be called up at the "last chance rodeo" then.

We all know the history of how these kinds of plans end up compared to the initial design. But we have farted away any chance we had before by doing nothing. The university (and all others involved...) is paying for their past lack of effort toward the health and growth of the football program.

All true. We’ve kicked that can for years. A LB upgrade is the quickest route (and probably all we can afford) to show a major commitment to our program.

How will it turn out? Probably not quite like the renderings, but at least they’re finally doing something. 150-200 million is a major renovation for sure.

Obviously if we had been proactive sooner we might be playing in an OCS now, but that’s all in the rear view. Looking forward to the remodeled stadium…. Go tigers!
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(Today 09:59 AM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(Today 08:53 AM)tigers18 Wrote:  Did they mention if all seating will be converted to chair backs?

Why would you want to raise all ticket prices because of chairbacks and remove the specialness of the ones that we do have?

Most places are going to this when they build new stadiums or renovate. It's better for the fan comfort and looks better.
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(Today 08:20 AM)Claw Wrote:  
(Today 12:12 AM)CRM114 Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 01:53 PM)Claw Wrote:  Keep in mind you aren't going to get that picture.

I believe they only plan on doing the west side of the picture .

There is no secured funding.

There are no completed architectural plans.

No contract bids.

And a completion date they couldn't meet if all of that was in place today.

I don't see how any of you can buy into something that is just a drawing. That is literally all it is.

The renderings don’t show much being done to the east side. Just a partial deconstruction of the suite tower to convert it into outdoor party decks and a cover over it with lights. Compared to all the demo and new construction on the west side, a relatively small share of the project cost, or impact.

If you think this proposal is just vapor, why you are complaining about it so much? I mean, if it’s not really going to happen this way then who knows, maybe you will get your beloved OCS after all.

Yes I am complaining about not getting an OCS.

However, the enthusiasm over this design baffles me, not because it's bad, but because it doesn't really exist. It's just an artist's rendering. They said themselves the design is fluid and that there are no final plans. I wouldn't trust them to deliver every single thing they promised anyway, but in fairness, with today's skyrocketing costs none of us should be surprised when corners have to be cut.

That all boils down to this. When you see what they can actually deliver at the Liberty Bowl, will that be worth never having an OCS? I hope you are all happy with the final result.

I think there is a real case for slowing down, planning big, and waiting for better economic conditions.

start your campaign for a OCS and donate your $10.
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(Today 01:10 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  
(Today 08:20 AM)Claw Wrote:  
(Today 12:12 AM)CRM114 Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 01:53 PM)Claw Wrote:  Keep in mind you aren't going to get that picture.

I believe they only plan on doing the west side of the picture .

There is no secured funding.

There are no completed architectural plans.

No contract bids.

And a completion date they couldn't meet if all of that was in place today.

I don't see how any of you can buy into something that is just a drawing. That is literally all it is.

The renderings don’t show much being done to the east side. Just a partial deconstruction of the suite tower to convert it into outdoor party decks and a cover over it with lights. Compared to all the demo and new construction on the west side, a relatively small share of the project cost, or impact.

If you think this proposal is just vapor, why you are complaining about it so much? I mean, if it’s not really going to happen this way then who knows, maybe you will get your beloved OCS after all.

Yes I am complaining about not getting an OCS.

However, the enthusiasm over this design baffles me, not because it's bad, but because it doesn't really exist. It's just an artist's rendering. They said themselves the design is fluid and that there are no final plans. I wouldn't trust them to deliver every single thing they promised anyway, but in fairness, with today's skyrocketing costs none of us should be surprised when corners have to be cut.

That all boils down to this. When you see what they can actually deliver at the Liberty Bowl, will that be worth never having an OCS? I hope you are all happy with the final result.

I think there is a real case for slowing down, planning big, and waiting for better economic conditions.

start your campaign for a OCS and donate your $10.

That was tried last time.
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I don't know what posters are thinking when they criticize this decision. If the major boosters and the administration thought an OCS was doable, we would be getting one. They don't. If anything, it is a reflection on the fanbase as a whole for not having the will or at the least, not being able to afford getting this done.

Many are talking about Tennessee possibly getting $500 million and seeing that as an issue. In 2018, they raised $397 million. They started a $500 million fundraising campaign last year with $200 million in the bank, at the time they announced it. If they get $500 million and raise $1 billion privately to build a $1.5 billion stadium, who can really blame the government? They have probably raised $2 billion on their own in the last half dozen years.

If the school is going to pay for a chunk of the renovations, so be it. Before going into hysterics, I would love to see exactly how much. The only specific source I've seen is through premium seat licenses. If the renovations are as beautiful as the renderings and the surrounding area is built up, it will be really nice. No, it won't help the university by having alumni and students on campus, but that's how the cookie crumbles.
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(Today 02:07 PM)Stammers Wrote:  I don't know what posters are thinking when they criticize this decision. If the major boosters and the administration thought an OCS was doable, we would be getting one. They don't. If anything, it is a reflection on the fanbase as a whole for not having the will or at the least, not being able to afford getting this done.

Many are talking about Tennessee possibly getting $500 million and seeing that as an issue. In 2018, they raised $397 million. They started a $500 million fundraising campaign last year with $200 million in the bank, at the time they announced it. If they get $500 million and raise $1 billion privately to build a $1.5 billion stadium, who can really blame the government? They have probably raised $2 billion on their own in the last half dozen years.

If the school is going to pay for a chunk of the renovations, so be it. Before going into hysterics, I would love to see exactly how much. The only specific source I've seen is through premium seat licenses. If the renovations are as beautiful as the renderings and the surrounding area is built up, it will be really nice. No, it won't help the university by having alumni and students on campus, but that's how the cookie crumbles.
One point I have NOT made here that should be made. The AD and President are essentially brand new. They are at a great disadvantage in dealing with boosters and the city who are simply doing what they have always done. They don't stand a chance opposing the people that have been running things the last 40 years.

EDIT TO ADD: They also stand little chance not be persuaded by these people that theirs is the only reasonable course of action.
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(Today 02:51 PM)Claw Wrote:  
(Today 02:07 PM)Stammers Wrote:  I don't know what posters are thinking when they criticize this decision. If the major boosters and the administration thought an OCS was doable, we would be getting one. They don't. If anything, it is a reflection on the fanbase as a whole for not having the will or at the least, not being able to afford getting this done.

Many are talking about Tennessee possibly getting $500 million and seeing that as an issue. In 2018, they raised $397 million. They started a $500 million fundraising campaign last year with $200 million in the bank, at the time they announced it. If they get $500 million and raise $1 billion privately to build a $1.5 billion stadium, who can really blame the government? They have probably raised $2 billion on their own in the last half dozen years.

If the school is going to pay for a chunk of the renovations, so be it. Before going into hysterics, I would love to see exactly how much. The only specific source I've seen is through premium seat licenses. If the renovations are as beautiful as the renderings and the surrounding area is built up, it will be really nice. No, it won't help the university by having alumni and students on campus, but that's how the cookie crumbles.
One point I have NOT made here that should be made. The AD and President are essentially brand new. They are at a great disadvantage in dealing with boosters and the city who are simply doing what they have always done. They don't stand a chance opposing the people that have been running things the last 40 years.

EDIT TO ADD: They also stand little chance not be persuaded by these people that theirs is the only reasonable course of action.

You are complicating and overthinking things. IF the boosters and admin had the money, we would get an OCS. They don't. Rudd and especially Brad Martin were not initially on board for an OCS and they still might not be. Before Mike Rose passed away, he wasn't on board with it either. The Heery Report is from 2008. I would guess that many of the same boosters that barely glanced at it back then, are still boosters today.

I am just as much of an OCS proponent as you are. The difference between you and I is that I have come to grips with the fact that it isn't happening and the reasoning behind it. I understand that the choice was going to be between what we are going to get, and nothing.

This is infinitely better than nothing. Everyone will sit in a chairback. The big money won't be sitting in suites that are rotting and 8 miles from the field. The amenities are going to be first class. At least some of the time, the fans will be at least somewhat sheltered from the sun that they (rightfully) complain about. There will be beer and alcohol sales, and you won't feel like cattle taking a piss in a trough.

You don't have to be thrilled, but you should understand 100% that your experience as a fan will be 10X better, and that will attract more fans to our games which will make the experience for everyone exponentially better. $150-200 million isn't a drop in the bucket, it is more than Houston and UCF spent on their stadiums combined.

It won't look like a sombrero anymore.
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(Today 03:29 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(Today 02:51 PM)Claw Wrote:  
(Today 02:07 PM)Stammers Wrote:  I don't know what posters are thinking when they criticize this decision. If the major boosters and the administration thought an OCS was doable, we would be getting one. They don't. If anything, it is a reflection on the fanbase as a whole for not having the will or at the least, not being able to afford getting this done.

Many are talking about Tennessee possibly getting $500 million and seeing that as an issue. In 2018, they raised $397 million. They started a $500 million fundraising campaign last year with $200 million in the bank, at the time they announced it. If they get $500 million and raise $1 billion privately to build a $1.5 billion stadium, who can really blame the government? They have probably raised $2 billion on their own in the last half dozen years.

If the school is going to pay for a chunk of the renovations, so be it. Before going into hysterics, I would love to see exactly how much. The only specific source I've seen is through premium seat licenses. If the renovations are as beautiful as the renderings and the surrounding area is built up, it will be really nice. No, it won't help the university by having alumni and students on campus, but that's how the cookie crumbles.
One point I have NOT made here that should be made. The AD and President are essentially brand new. They are at a great disadvantage in dealing with boosters and the city who are simply doing what they have always done. They don't stand a chance opposing the people that have been running things the last 40 years.

EDIT TO ADD: They also stand little chance not be persuaded by these people that theirs is the only reasonable course of action.

You are complicating and overthinking things. IF the boosters and admin had the money, we would get an OCS. They don't. Rudd and especially Brad Martin were not initially on board for an OCS and they still might not be. Before Mike Rose passed away, he wasn't on board with it either. The Heery Report is from 2008. I would guess that many of the same boosters that barely glanced at it back then, are still boosters today.

I am just as much of an OCS proponent as you are. The difference between you and I is that I have come to grips with the fact that it isn't happening and the reasoning behind it. I understand that the choice was going to be between what we are going to get, and nothing.

This is infinitely better than nothing. Everyone will sit in a chairback. The big money won't be sitting in suites that are rotting and 8 miles from the field. The amenities are going to be first class. At least some of the time, the fans will be at least somewhat sheltered from the sun that they (rightfully) complain about. There will be beer and alcohol sales, and you won't feel like cattle taking a piss in a trough.

You don't have to be thrilled, but you should understand 100% that your experience as a fan will be 10X better, and that will attract more fans to our games which will make the experience for everyone exponentially better. $150-200 million isn't a drop in the bucket, it is more than Houston and UCF spent on their stadiums combined.

It won't look like a sombrero anymore.
Look, I hope it is great, but it is NOT going to be what you are saying today.

"Everyone will sit in a chairback." No, they won't. The east side of the stadium will be just like it is now.

"The big money won't be sitting in suites that are rotting and 8 miles from the field." This is true, but in return for that, a lot season ticket holders with prime seats will move to new seats. The seating numbers between the 40's or even the 30's on the renovated side is going to decrease substantially. Those misplaced will get a chairback in a worse location or in the existing un-renovated bench seating on the East side.

"your experience as a fan will be 10X better," I don't see that either. Anyone lucky enough to sit on the new side will get a chairback, new concourse, new concessions, and new pot to piss in. Those on the east side will get little or nothing. The improvement to your fan experience is going to be very dependent on where you are sitting. So make that 5X better since half the fans won't get the new experience.

You guys can call me negative Nancy all you want. I just want some realism here. They have described to us the BEST we can hope to get. We won't likely get everything they have described in part because of the economy. When all is said and done, this is built, and fans are in the seats, visitors to the new facility are going to say, "They built half a stadium. Are they going to finish it?"
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(Today 03:46 PM)Claw Wrote:  
(Today 03:29 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(Today 02:51 PM)Claw Wrote:  
(Today 02:07 PM)Stammers Wrote:  I don't know what posters are thinking when they criticize this decision. If the major boosters and the administration thought an OCS was doable, we would be getting one. They don't. If anything, it is a reflection on the fanbase as a whole for not having the will or at the least, not being able to afford getting this done.

Many are talking about Tennessee possibly getting $500 million and seeing that as an issue. In 2018, they raised $397 million. They started a $500 million fundraising campaign last year with $200 million in the bank, at the time they announced it. If they get $500 million and raise $1 billion privately to build a $1.5 billion stadium, who can really blame the government? They have probably raised $2 billion on their own in the last half dozen years.

If the school is going to pay for a chunk of the renovations, so be it. Before going into hysterics, I would love to see exactly how much. The only specific source I've seen is through premium seat licenses. If the renovations are as beautiful as the renderings and the surrounding area is built up, it will be really nice. No, it won't help the university by having alumni and students on campus, but that's how the cookie crumbles.
One point I have NOT made here that should be made. The AD and President are essentially brand new. They are at a great disadvantage in dealing with boosters and the city who are simply doing what they have always done. They don't stand a chance opposing the people that have been running things the last 40 years.

EDIT TO ADD: They also stand little chance not be persuaded by these people that theirs is the only reasonable course of action.

You are complicating and overthinking things. IF the boosters and admin had the money, we would get an OCS. They don't. Rudd and especially Brad Martin were not initially on board for an OCS and they still might not be. Before Mike Rose passed away, he wasn't on board with it either. The Heery Report is from 2008. I would guess that many of the same boosters that barely glanced at it back then, are still boosters today.

I am just as much of an OCS proponent as you are. The difference between you and I is that I have come to grips with the fact that it isn't happening and the reasoning behind it. I understand that the choice was going to be between what we are going to get, and nothing.

This is infinitely better than nothing. Everyone will sit in a chairback. The big money won't be sitting in suites that are rotting and 8 miles from the field. The amenities are going to be first class. At least some of the time, the fans will be at least somewhat sheltered from the sun that they (rightfully) complain about. There will be beer and alcohol sales, and you won't feel like cattle taking a piss in a trough.

You don't have to be thrilled, but you should understand 100% that your experience as a fan will be 10X better, and that will attract more fans to our games which will make the experience for everyone exponentially better. $150-200 million isn't a drop in the bucket, it is more than Houston and UCF spent on their stadiums combined.

It won't look like a sombrero anymore.
Look, I hope it is great, but it is NOT going to be what you are saying today.

"Everyone will sit in a chairback." No, they won't. The east side of the stadium will be just like it is now.

"The big money won't be sitting in suites that are rotting and 8 miles from the field." This is true, but in return for that, a lot season ticket holders with prime seats will move to new seats. The seating numbers between the 40's or even the 30's on the renovated side is going to decrease substantially. Those misplaced will get a chairback in a worse location or in the existing un-renovated bench seating on the East side.

"your experience as a fan will be 10X better," I don't see that either. Anyone lucky enough to sit on the new side will get a chairback, new concourse, new concessions, and new pot to piss in. Those on the east side will get little or nothing. The improvement to your fan experience is going to be very dependent on where you are sitting. So make that 5X better since half the fans won't get the new experience.

You guys can call me negative Nancy all you want. I just want some realism here. They have described to us the BEST we can hope to get. We won't likely get everything they have described in part because of the economy. When all is said and done, this is built, and fans are in the seats, visitors to the new facility are going to say, "They built half a stadium. Are they going to finish it?"

Quote:I just want some realism here.

First of all, the entire stadium will be updated, so there is nothing realistic about what you are saying, literally ZERO.

Quote:The improvement to your fan experience is going to be very dependent on where you are sitting.

So pay market rates for tickets or don't. Either way, why would you complain? You will get what you pay for...literally.

Quote:We won't likely get everything they have described in part because of the economy.

Source? The Easter Bunny? Santa Claus? The Tooth Fairy? Ouija Board? The Farmer's Almanac?
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i hope they increase the seat donation, like basketball

to get rid of the riff raff
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RE: The University made the right choice
Stammers, your are saying:

Quote:First of all, the entire stadium will be updated, so there is nothing realistic about what you are saying, literally ZERO.

Can you or anyone else show me some source for that? That is not my take on things, and it would be nice if I am wrong about it.
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RE: The University made the right choice
(Today 04:06 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  i hope they increase the seat donation, like basketball

to get rid of the riff raff

Hey now--I resemble that remark LOL
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(Today 04:20 PM)Claw Wrote:  Stammers, your are saying:

Quote:First of all, the entire stadium will be updated, so there is nothing realistic about what you are saying, literally ZERO.

Can you or anyone else show me some source for that? That is not my take on things, and it would be nice if I am wrong about it.

Look at the rendering. Show me a source that says that the east side will be "almost exactly the same."

While we are at it, just for fun, come up with a source to back this stuff up. 04-drinky

Quote:We won't likely get everything they have described in part because of the economy. When all is said and done, this is built, and fans are in the seats, visitors to the new facility are going to say, "They built half a stadium. Are they going to finish it?"
Quote:Keep in mind you aren't going to get that picture.
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(05-13-2022 06:12 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Most of yall must be politicians ---I have never seen as much crawfishin/backpedaling/flipflopping/mindchanging

For months posters have proclaimed that if we don't build an OCS then we are doomed--that the big 12 will not come calling .

For months posters proclaimed that we were a lock for the big 12---heck some even suggested the acc or big 10 may come calling.

When the news broke that we were not #2 on everyone's list----posters stated that it must be because of no OCS---even though they knew that when they thought we were #2 on everybodys list-

For months posters have proclaimed that we needed to build a tiny 30-40K seat mickey mouse stadium----thus limiting the number of fans that could watch our beloved TIGERS play----they proclaimed that MEMPHIS needed less fans at games LOL---incredible really

So now the news that there will be no OCS---and some of those same posters are saying that the new designed MEMPHIS MEMORIAL STADIUM will be so great that we will now get an invite --really are you all happyclappers----do any of you ever think the university/coaches can make a mistake----why all of a sudden the OCS don't matter ?

I have been on record long before we were not chosen last year--that the stadium had/has ZERO bearing on inclusion in the big 12----it however mattered not to me if we built one or stayed at MMS--I just wanted it big enough

The new stadium will be in excess of 50K which is what I have maintained it needed to be --I was demonized and laughed at for suggesting that it be at least 50K

I hope we get selected in the next go round ---but this stadium still will have no bearing just like an OCS wouldn't have-----I think they made the correct choice--a no brainer really ---it looks great and I cant wait to see it

Veatch mentioned Colorado State as the model they were looking at. It has 41,000 seats. In their opinion, that was the ideal size. When there was a poll on this board, only 6% thought it should be bigger than 50k. Nothing should deter anyone from the behaviour toward you that you describe.

Not just a bit wrong, completely wrong.
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