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RE: How I would like to see a national football tournament organized.
(05-20-2022 08:28 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-19-2022 08:09 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(05-15-2022 07:57 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-12-2022 03:22 PM)Keeper Wrote:  First: 16 teams

Second: seed top eight conference champions

Third: seed the eight at large invitees

Fourth: All first round games at the home field of the conference
champions with 20% of seats available to visiting opponent (home team keeps all proceeds from ticket sales)

Fifth: The last 7 games played at neutral sites.

Sixth: Maintain this system for a minimum of 5 years to allow everyone
to come arou01-wingedeagle:lmfao:nd to realize this is the most equitable system and
is the one that should have always been in place.

So...the #5 and #6 teams in the country play a road game against a Sun Belt or CUSA team. Equitable.

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Yep! Home dogs will find a bone sooner than later. The longer the tournament lasts the more competitive college football becomes. I know you only want about 6 teams to ever have a chance to compete, and the Tigers are not in your top 6.

Take a system that is unfair, and come up with a "solution" 04-drinky that is so ridiculous and lacking in common sense, that nobody would ever go for it in a million years.

The Tigers or the top G5 are in my top 8. Teams with 5 or 6 multiple losses, that draw 15,000 to their home games, that nobody cares about, that are ranked #60-80 are obviously not on anyone's list.

So you prefer the unfair system where 2 SEC teams and two other teams are invited to an exhibition tournament. I prefer a system where my Tigers can compete for a national title. You don't seem to have any vision or solution for the Tigers other than for them to cower at the feet of the elite and beg for admittance. I am a liberal and you are a conservative and this is just one example of the difference between the two philosophies.
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(05-21-2022 06:04 PM)Keeper Wrote:  I just had another idea. What if a champions football tournament was established? Only conference champions can compete. The 5 g5 champions of course and perhaps some day the 2 p5 conference champions who are always left out of the NIT exhibition would want to participate. In a few years maybe every conference except the SEC would send their champion and eventually even the SEC would screw up their courage to compete in a tournament. Just like the NCAA basketball tournament there might even be some at large teams invited.

Meanwhile I am pretty sure there would be enough interest from one or more tv network to host the Champions Tournament.

I like it --book it !----however get ready for the king sec/power5 bootlicker to attack

Some of them believe themselves to be Tiger fans, but they just can't help themselves from arguing against the Tiger's best interest. By that I mean it is in the Tigers best interest that they be able to compete for a national championship. Most of that ilk don't even think an AAC championship has any value except that it earns the right to play in a high paying exhibition game.
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RE: How I would like to see a national football tournament organized.
(05-22-2022 08:03 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(05-20-2022 08:28 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-19-2022 08:09 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(05-15-2022 07:57 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-12-2022 03:22 PM)Keeper Wrote:  First: 16 teams

Second: seed top eight conference champions

Third: seed the eight at large invitees

Fourth: All first round games at the home field of the conference
champions with 20% of seats available to visiting opponent (home team keeps all proceeds from ticket sales)

Fifth: The last 7 games played at neutral sites.

Sixth: Maintain this system for a minimum of 5 years to allow everyone
to come arou01-wingedeagle:lmfao:nd to realize this is the most equitable system and
is the one that should have always been in place.

So...the #5 and #6 teams in the country play a road game against a Sun Belt or CUSA team. Equitable.

04-drinky 01-wingedeagle03-lmfao

Yep! Home dogs will find a bone sooner than later. The longer the tournament lasts the more competitive college football becomes. I know you only want about 6 teams to ever have a chance to compete, and the Tigers are not in your top 6.

Take a system that is unfair, and come up with a "solution" 04-drinky that is so ridiculous and lacking in common sense, that nobody would ever go for it in a million years.

The Tigers or the top G5 are in my top 8. Teams with 5 or 6 multiple losses, that draw 15,000 to their home games, that nobody cares about, that are ranked #60-80 are obviously not on anyone's list.

So you prefer the unfair system where 2 SEC teams and two other teams are invited to an exhibition tournament. I prefer a system where my Tigers can compete for a national title. You don't seem to have any vision or solution for the Tigers other than for them to cower at the feet of the elite and beg for admittance. I am a liberal and you are a conservative and this is just one example of the difference between the two philosophies.

I am right of Attila The Hun---but I 100% agree with you
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RE: How I would like to see a national football tournament organized.
(05-22-2022 08:11 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(05-21-2022 10:41 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-21-2022 06:04 PM)Keeper Wrote:  I just had another idea. What if a champions football tournament was established? Only conference champions can compete. The 5 g5 champions of course and perhaps some day the 2 p5 conference champions who are always left out of the NIT exhibition would want to participate. In a few years maybe every conference except the SEC would send their champion and eventually even the SEC would screw up their courage to compete in a tournament. Just like the NCAA basketball tournament there might even be some at large teams invited.

Meanwhile I am pretty sure there would be enough interest from one or more tv network to host the Champions Tournament.

I like it --book it !----however get ready for the king sec/power5 bootlicker to attack

Some of them believe themselves to be Tiger fans, but they just can't help themselves from arguing against the Tiger's best interest. By that I mean it is in the Tigers best interest that they be able to compete for a national championship. Most of that ilk don't even think an AAC championship has any value except that it earns the right to play in a high paying exhibition game.

Yep--one in particular
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RE: How I would like to see a national football tournament organized.
(05-22-2022 08:03 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(05-20-2022 08:28 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-19-2022 08:09 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(05-15-2022 07:57 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-12-2022 03:22 PM)Keeper Wrote:  First: 16 teams

Second: seed top eight conference champions

Third: seed the eight at large invitees

Fourth: All first round games at the home field of the conference
champions with 20% of seats available to visiting opponent (home team keeps all proceeds from ticket sales)

Fifth: The last 7 games played at neutral sites.

Sixth: Maintain this system for a minimum of 5 years to allow everyone
to come arou01-wingedeagle:lmfao:nd to realize this is the most equitable system and
is the one that should have always been in place.

So...the #5 and #6 teams in the country play a road game against a Sun Belt or CUSA team. Equitable.

04-drinky 01-wingedeagle03-lmfao

Yep! Home dogs will find a bone sooner than later. The longer the tournament lasts the more competitive college football becomes. I know you only want about 6 teams to ever have a chance to compete, and the Tigers are not in your top 6.

Take a system that is unfair, and come up with a "solution" 04-drinky that is so ridiculous and lacking in common sense, that nobody would ever go for it in a million years.

The Tigers or the top G5 are in my top 8. Teams with 5 or 6 multiple losses, that draw 15,000 to their home games, that nobody cares about, that are ranked #60-80 are obviously not on anyone's list.

So you prefer the unfair system where 2 SEC teams and two other teams are invited to an exhibition tournament. I prefer a system where my Tigers can compete for a national title. You don't seem to have any vision or solution for the Tigers other than for them to cower at the feet of the elite and beg for admittance. I am a liberal and you are a conservative and this is just one example of the difference between the two philosophies.

The problem is you aren't very bright; you can't read. An 8 team playoff with one G5 participant ensures that nobody gets a home game, nobody gets a bye, the system is merit based, a G5 gets to participate, there aren't two teams that have to play 16 games, and the CC games and bowl games, don't get wrecked.

The decision makers aren't idiots who will agree to having 5 participants from the AAC, MWC, Sun Belt, CUSA and MAC, and probably only 1 or at most 2 from the ACC or PAC12. That system will ensure that as many as 3 and possibly 4 of the participants won't even be ranked, and a couple will more than likely be below #50 in the computer rankings, while multiple teams in the top 15 get excluded.

They won't double down on being idiots by insisting that all 5 of those participants will get a home game against a top 10 team; even if they have 3-5 losses and a top 5 team has 1-2 losses. They aren't that stupid, and nobody with common sense would want that anyway.



My solutions aren't stupid, and don't involve teams ranked between 40-80 getting home games against teams in the top 10.
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(05-19-2022 08:12 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(05-15-2022 12:41 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Is it fair...

That 2 loss Georgia ranked in the top 5 should have to play at the Cusa home field

Yeah if Georgia doesn't win their conference and Western Ky wins theirs. Not difficult to understand. Conference title races will enhance the regular season. Even PAC, Big xii, and ACC teams other than Clemson will have opportunities to host National Championship Tournament games. But I understand; you never want to see a football tournament game in Liberty Stadium. Personally I would love to take on Georgia there for the right to play in the quarterfinals in the Sugar Bowl. I know you would think it demeaning for your beloved bulldogs to have to play a road game against our Tigers, but most of us would be looking for the Tigers to win that game.

Quote:Yeah if Georgia doesn't win their conference and Western Ky wins theirs. Not difficult to understand.
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This is how the teams would have been seeded last year. The top 8 seeds get a home game. The teams' national rankings are in brackets.

1 Alabama (1) - 16 Michigan State (10)
2 Michigan (2) - 15 Oklahoma State (9)
3 Cincinnati (4) - 14 Ole Piss (8)
4 Baylor (7) - 13 Ohio State (6)
5 Utah (11) - 12 Notre Dame (5)
6 Pitt (12) - 11 Georgia (3)
7 Louisiana (23) - 10 Kent State (UR)
8 Utah State (UR) - 9 UTSA (UR)

Unranked Utah State gets a home game against UTSA. #3 Georgia plays on the road against the #12 team. The bottom team in the entire tournament has a road game against the #23 team in the country.

#3 Georgia has a road game, AND a much tougher game that Kent State and UTSA. Every team in the top 25, all ranked higher than Louisiana, have tougher games than Louisiana, Kent State, Utah State, and UTSA.

3 $EC
3 Big Ten
2 Big 12
1 PAC 12
1 ACC
1 AAC
1 MWC
1 CUSA
1 MAC
1 Sunbelt
1 Independent

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It seems impossible, but the idea looks even dumber when you see what it looks like on paper.
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(05-21-2022 06:04 PM)Keeper Wrote:  I just had another idea. What if a champions football tournament was established? Only conference champions can compete. The 5 g5 champions of course and perhaps some day the 2 p5 conference champions who are always left out of the NIT exhibition would want to participate. In a few years maybe every conference except the SEC would send their champion and eventually even the SEC would screw up their courage to compete in a tournament. Just like the NCAA basketball tournament there might even be some at large teams invited.

Meanwhile I am pretty sure there would be enough interest from one or more tv network to host the Champions Tournament.

I like it --book it !----however get ready for the king sec/power5 bootlicker to attack

Serious question. Aside from games we play in, how many games have you seen involving Northern Illinois, Kent State, Louisiana, Western Kentucky, Miami of Ohio, Central Michigan, Fresno State, Utah State, Georgia, State, Texas State, Old Dominion, San Jose State, Western Michigan...
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RE: How I would like to see a national football tournament organized.
(05-23-2022 12:21 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-21-2022 10:41 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-21-2022 06:04 PM)Keeper Wrote:  I just had another idea. What if a champions football tournament was established? Only conference champions can compete. The 5 g5 champions of course and perhaps some day the 2 p5 conference champions who are always left out of the NIT exhibition would want to participate. In a few years maybe every conference except the SEC would send their champion and eventually even the SEC would screw up their courage to compete in a tournament. Just like the NCAA basketball tournament there might even be some at large teams invited.

Meanwhile I am pretty sure there would be enough interest from one or more tv network to host the Champions Tournament.

I like it --book it !----however get ready for the king sec/power5 bootlicker to attack

Serious question. Aside from games we play in, how many games have you seen involving Northern Illinois, Kent State, Louisiana, Western Kentucky, Miami of Ohio, Central Michigan, Fresno State, Utah State, Georgia, State, Texas State, Old Dominion, San Jose State, Western Michigan...

Unless MEMPHIS STATE is playing --I don't watch any games unless I am somewhere where it is on---that includes any of the so-called power 5------if I have a bet on ANY GAME power 5 or not ---I may tune in late if the bet is in question ----I hope that answers your question
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RE: How I would like to see a national football tournament organized.
(05-23-2022 12:37 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-23-2022 12:21 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-21-2022 10:41 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-21-2022 06:04 PM)Keeper Wrote:  I just had another idea. What if a champions football tournament was established? Only conference champions can compete. The 5 g5 champions of course and perhaps some day the 2 p5 conference champions who are always left out of the NIT exhibition would want to participate. In a few years maybe every conference except the SEC would send their champion and eventually even the SEC would screw up their courage to compete in a tournament. Just like the NCAA basketball tournament there might even be some at large teams invited.

Meanwhile I am pretty sure there would be enough interest from one or more tv network to host the Champions Tournament.

I like it --book it !----however get ready for the king sec/power5 bootlicker to attack

Serious question. Aside from games we play in, how many games have you seen involving Northern Illinois, Kent State, Louisiana, Western Kentucky, Miami of Ohio, Central Michigan, Fresno State, Utah State, Georgia, State, Texas State, Old Dominion, San Jose State, Western Michigan...

Unless MEMPHIS STATE is playing --I don't watch any games unless I am somewhere where it is on---that includes any of the so-called power 5------if I have a bet on ANY GAME power 5 or not ---I may tune in late if the bet is in question ----I hope that answers your question

This is a great post on so many levels.

From the point of view of competitiveness, you are admitting that you know nothing, literally nothing about which teams are good and bad, which are deserving or undeserving. You don't see any of them play.

From the point of view of being a consumer, you aren't one. NCAA football generates $5 billion in revenue; none of it generated by you. You barely go to games, you don't want to spend more than a few dollars on tickets and you don't watch any of the games on tv. People that pay the money, whether they are part of the networks or fans, should have some say in it. You aren't a college football fan.

Last but not least, You won't even watch any of the playoff games if we aren't involved, and only then, will you watch only the game(s) we play in. If we aren't involved you won't watch.

So the bottom line, is that you are free to think and post what you want, but on a scale of 1-10 with a 10 being someone who spends a lot of money on tickets, and watches all of the games on tv, including those that they aren't a fan of, you are a 1. You probably spend less than $100/year and don't watch any games on tv.

I am a 1 on 10 when it comes to horse racing. I'll usually watch the Kentucky Derby and might watch the last leg if the same horse has won the first 3. I would feel stupid if I was ever in a position where I felt somehow entitled to tell people how it should be run, and I would feel ridiculous if I felt entitled to anything in any way.

Without doing it on purpose, you explained to everyone in black and white, that your opinion is worth zero. That isn't me saying it, it is you saying it about yourself.
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(05-23-2022 01:42 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-23-2022 12:37 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-23-2022 12:21 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-21-2022 10:41 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-21-2022 06:04 PM)Keeper Wrote:  I just had another idea. What if a champions football tournament was established? Only conference champions can compete. The 5 g5 champions of course and perhaps some day the 2 p5 conference champions who are always left out of the NIT exhibition would want to participate. In a few years maybe every conference except the SEC would send their champion and eventually even the SEC would screw up their courage to compete in a tournament. Just like the NCAA basketball tournament there might even be some at large teams invited.

Meanwhile I am pretty sure there would be enough interest from one or more tv network to host the Champions Tournament.

I like it --book it !----however get ready for the king sec/power5 bootlicker to attack

Serious question. Aside from games we play in, how many games have you seen involving Northern Illinois, Kent State, Louisiana, Western Kentucky, Miami of Ohio, Central Michigan, Fresno State, Utah State, Georgia, State, Texas State, Old Dominion, San Jose State, Western Michigan...

Unless MEMPHIS STATE is playing --I don't watch any games unless I am somewhere where it is on---that includes any of the so-called power 5------if I have a bet on ANY GAME power 5 or not ---I may tune in late if the bet is in question ----I hope that answers your question

This is a great post on so many levels.

From the point of view of competitiveness, you are admitting that you know nothing, literally nothing about which teams are good and bad, which are deserving or undeserving. You don't see any of them play.

From the point of view of being a consumer, you aren't one. NCAA football generates $5 billion in revenue; none of it generated by you. You barely go to games, you don't want to spend more than a few dollars on tickets and you don't watch any of the games on tv. People that pay the money, whether they are part of the networks or fans, should have some say in it. You aren't a college football fan.

Last but not least, You won't even watch any of the playoff games if we aren't involved, and only then, will you watch only the game(s) we play in. If we aren't involved you won't watch.

So the bottom line, is that you are free to think and post what you want, but on a scale of 1-10 with a 10 being someone who spends a lot of money on tickets, and watches all of the games on tv, including those that they aren't a fan of, you are a 1. You probably spend less than $100/year and don't watch any games on tv.

I am a 1 on 10 when it comes to horse racing. I'll usually watch the Kentucky Derby and might watch the last leg if the same horse has won the first 3. I would feel stupid if I was ever in a position where I felt somehow entitled to tell people how it should be run, and I would feel ridiculous if I felt entitled to anything in any way.

Without doing it on purpose, you explained to everyone in black and white, that your opinion is worth zero. That isn't me saying it, it is you saying it about yourself.

Like I have repeatedly stated to you --I have had season tickets for years regardless of price---if I am someplace/somewhere and they have a game on I watch it --if I have a bet on a game I sometimes tune in--------as far as college football/basketball/sports is concerned I am getting less and less interested every year---the system is rigged/skewed against the LIL OLE MEMPHIS' of the world----not to mention their liberal woke agenda--as far as the so-called power 5 or sec is concerned ---unless I have $$ riding--I couldn't care less

As far as my knowledge or credibility of sports --I knew Tubby Smith didn't contact the university first--I knew who the back-up QB was--I knew we were not #2 on everybodys list--I knew we would not build an OCS---I knew the big12 didn't tell us to build an OCS--I knew we would have a 50K+ seat stadium to play in ..and I knew as soon as the announcement was made that no OCS--that the same ones that said we needed one to get in the BIG12--would flipflop and now say we are now in because of the new rebuilt stadium ..etc etc on and on-------very very few TIGER games I have missed since 1975----how about you ? how many have you attended ? ----when it comes to all things tigers ----Highland 100 for years/Rebounders for years/Press for years ----my predictions haven't missed--what about yours ? There may be some out there that know more about the TIGERS or sports than I do ---but you are not one of them -----

In regards to your posts---even though you are rarely correct on anything TIGERS --like I have repeatedly stated--I enjoy your posts--you put a lot of time and effort in them--I enjoy reading your opinions ---I actually bet opposite if I can find a line--BTW who do you think is gonna win the Met/Giant game tonight

As for my opinion--admittedly -that and 3$ might get you a cup of coffee
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(05-22-2022 08:03 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(05-20-2022 08:28 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-19-2022 08:09 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(05-15-2022 07:57 AM)Stammers Wrote:  So...the #5 and #6 teams in the country play a road game against a Sun Belt or CUSA team. Equitable.

04-drinky 01-wingedeagle03-lmfao

Yep! Home dogs will find a bone sooner than later. The longer the tournament lasts the more competitive college football becomes. I know you only want about 6 teams to ever have a chance to compete, and the Tigers are not in your top 6.

Take a system that is unfair, and come up with a "solution" 04-drinky that is so ridiculous and lacking in common sense, that nobody would ever go for it in a million years.

The Tigers or the top G5 are in my top 8. Teams with 5 or 6 multiple losses, that draw 15,000 to their home games, that nobody cares about, that are ranked #60-80 are obviously not on anyone's list.

So you prefer the unfair system where 2 SEC teams and two other teams are invited to an exhibition tournament. I prefer a system where my Tigers can compete for a national title. You don't seem to have any vision or solution for the Tigers other than for them to cower at the feet of the elite and beg for admittance. I am a liberal and you are a conservative and this is just one example of the difference between the two philosophies.

I am right of Attila The Hun---but I 100% agree with you

Thank you JSW, I am to the left of Bernie Sanders and I am still not a communist and I don't believe you are the leader of a blood thirsty horde of Huns.
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(05-22-2022 08:03 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(05-20-2022 08:28 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-19-2022 08:09 PM)Keeper Wrote:  Yep! Home dogs will find a bone sooner than later. The longer the tournament lasts the more competitive college football becomes. I know you only want about 6 teams to ever have a chance to compete, and the Tigers are not in your top 6.

Take a system that is unfair, and come up with a "solution" 04-drinky that is so ridiculous and lacking in common sense, that nobody would ever go for it in a million years.

The Tigers or the top G5 are in my top 8. Teams with 5 or 6 multiple losses, that draw 15,000 to their home games, that nobody cares about, that are ranked #60-80 are obviously not on anyone's list.

So you prefer the unfair system where 2 SEC teams and two other teams are invited to an exhibition tournament. I prefer a system where my Tigers can compete for a national title. You don't seem to have any vision or solution for the Tigers other than for them to cower at the feet of the elite and beg for admittance. I am a liberal and you are a conservative and this is just one example of the difference between the two philosophies.

I am right of Attila The Hun---but I 100% agree with you

Thank you JSW, I am to the left of Bernie Sanders and I am still not a communist and I don't believe you are the leader of a blood thirsty horde of Huns.

LOL-------04-cheers
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(05-23-2022 10:04 PM)Keeper Wrote:  Thank you JSW, I am to the left of Bernie Sanders and I am still not a communist and I don't believe you are the leader of a blood thirsty horde of Huns.

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(05-23-2022 12:21 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-21-2022 10:41 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  I like it --book it !----however get ready for the king sec/power5 bootlicker to attack

Serious question. Aside from games we play in, how many games have you seen involving Northern Illinois, Kent State, Louisiana, Western Kentucky, Miami of Ohio, Central Michigan, Fresno State, Utah State, Georgia, State, Texas State, Old Dominion, San Jose State, Western Michigan...

Unless MEMPHIS STATE is playing --I don't watch any games unless I am somewhere where it is on---that includes any of the so-called power 5------if I have a bet on ANY GAME power 5 or not ---I may tune in late if the bet is in question ----I hope that answers your question

This is a great post on so many levels.

From the point of view of competitiveness, you are admitting that you know nothing, literally nothing about which teams are good and bad, which are deserving or undeserving. You don't see any of them play.

From the point of view of being a consumer, you aren't one. NCAA football generates $5 billion in revenue; none of it generated by you. You barely go to games, you don't want to spend more than a few dollars on tickets and you don't watch any of the games on tv. People that pay the money, whether they are part of the networks or fans, should have some say in it. You aren't a college football fan.

Last but not least, You won't even watch any of the playoff games if we aren't involved, and only then, will you watch only the game(s) we play in. If we aren't involved you won't watch.

So the bottom line, is that you are free to think and post what you want, but on a scale of 1-10 with a 10 being someone who spends a lot of money on tickets, and watches all of the games on tv, including those that they aren't a fan of, you are a 1. You probably spend less than $100/year and don't watch any games on tv.

I am a 1 on 10 when it comes to horse racing. I'll usually watch the Kentucky Derby and might watch the last leg if the same horse has won the first 3. I would feel stupid if I was ever in a position where I felt somehow entitled to tell people how it should be run, and I would feel ridiculous if I felt entitled to anything in any way.

Without doing it on purpose, you explained to everyone in black and white, that your opinion is worth zero. That isn't me saying it, it is you saying it about yourself.

Like I have repeatedly stated to you --I have had season tickets for years regardless of price---if I am someplace/somewhere and they have a game on I watch it --if I have a bet on a game I sometimes tune in--------as far as college football/basketball/sports is concerned I am getting less and less interested every year---the system is rigged/skewed against the LIL OLE MEMPHIS' of the world----not to mention their liberal woke agenda--as far as the so-called power 5 or sec is concerned ---unless I have $$ riding--I couldn't care less

As far as my knowledge or credibility of sports --I knew Tubby Smith didn't contact the university first--I knew who the back-up QB was--I knew we were not #2 on everybodys list--I knew we would not build an OCS---I knew the big12 didn't tell us to build an OCS--I knew we would have a 50K+ seat stadium to play in ..and I knew as soon as the announcement was made that no OCS--that the same ones that said we needed one to get in the BIG12--would flipflop and now say we are now in because of the new rebuilt stadium ..etc etc on and on-------very very few TIGER games I have missed since 1975----how about you ? how many have you attended ? ----when it comes to all things tigers ----Highland 100 for years/Rebounders for years/Press for years ----my predictions haven't missed--what about yours ? There may be some out there that know more about the TIGERS or sports than I do ---but you are not one of them -----

In regards to your posts---even though you are rarely correct on anything TIGERS --like I have repeatedly stated--I enjoy your posts--you put a lot of time and effort in them--I enjoy reading your opinions ---I actually bet opposite if I can find a line--BTW who do you think is gonna win the Met/Giant game tonight

As for my opinion--admittedly -that and 3$ might get you a cup of coffee

Skate all you want and make up whatever fantasy you want on the fly to cover up not knowing anything and constantly being wrong.

Aside from all that, everyone involved in this has stated variations on 38,000 - 44,000 and they used Colorado State as the model at 41,000. It is all there documented in articles and videos.

There isn't $300 million to build a stadium that you are the only person on the planet to describe as Mickey Mouse and rinky dink. Nobody else involved has built a 50,000 seat stadium, including Baylor. Baylor was selling out their old 45,000 seat stadium and still stayed at 45,000 for the new one, which is anything but Mickey Mouse and rinky dink.

You are entitled to have your opinion, but YOU describe yourself as someone who spends no money, doesn't want to spend more money, and doesn't watch any games not involving us. There is a reason you and most of us have never seen Northern Illinois, Kent State, Louisiana, Western Kentucky, Miami of Ohio, Central Michigan, Fresno State, Utah State, Georgia, State, Texas State, Old Dominion, San Jose State, or Western Michigan play...even though all of their games are televised somewhere.

Mediocre to awful teams that you and most others have never seen in their lives and have no intention of ever seeing in their lives, belong in the playoff? 4 teams from G5 conferences "deserve" to be in but only 1 team from the ACC and PAC 12 most seasons? That is hilarious.
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RE: How I would like to see a national football tournament organized.
Ok one more thought. I believe college basketball is much more competitive than college football. The same two or three teams don't end up playing for the championship year after year.

I believe March Madness is far more exciting and has better games than the Post season football NIT. I remember way back when there were only 18 or so teams in March Madness tournament and the cinderella Memphis State Tigers were underdogs in all of their games. They went on to play UCLA in the championship game.

I believe the elite have ruined college football and that an inclusive tournament would go a long way to repairing it. I believe every team should have a chance at winning a national championship at the beginning of football season, even Vanderbilt and Utah st. I believe that most of the nation also believes this. So what! 90% of the country believes there should be universal background checks, but there is about as much chance of that happening as there is an inclusive post season football tournament.
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(05-28-2022 01:09 AM)Keeper Wrote:  Ok one more thought. I believe college basketball is much more competitive than college football. The same two or three teams don't end up playing for the championship year after year.

I believe March Madness is far more exciting and has better games than the Post season football NIT. I remember way back when there were only 18 or so teams in March Madness tournament and the cinderella Memphis State Tigers were underdogs in all of their games. They went on to play UCLA in the championship game.

I believe the elite have ruined college football and that an inclusive tournament would go a long way to repairing it. I believe every team should have a chance at winning a national championship at the beginning of football season, even Vanderbilt and Utah st. I believe that most of the nation also believes this. So what! 90% of the country believes there should be universal background checks, but there is about as much chance of that happening as there is an inclusive post season football tournament.

Vanderbilt and Utah State both have a chance. The problem is that you want to include them in a playoff after they have proven multiple times over the course of the season, that they aren't worthy.

Quote:I believe March Madness is far more exciting and has better games than the Post season football NIT.

Basketball players can play 6 games in 17 days and rarely get injured. When you include the top 48 teams in the country, it doesn't matter if #49 gets left out. When teams in the top 15 get left out at the expense of multiple teams ranked between 50-80, it makes no sense.
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(05-28-2022 03:53 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-28-2022 01:09 AM)Keeper Wrote:  Ok one more thought. I believe college basketball is much more competitive than college football. The same two or three teams don't end up playing for the championship year after year.

I believe March Madness is far more exciting and has better games than the Post season football NIT. I remember way back when there were only 18 or so teams in March Madness tournament and the cinderella Memphis State Tigers were underdogs in all of their games. They went on to play UCLA in the championship game.

I believe the elite have ruined college football and that an inclusive tournament would go a long way to repairing it. I believe every team should have a chance at winning a national championship at the beginning of football season, even Vanderbilt and Utah st. I believe that most of the nation also believes this. So what! 90% of the country believes there should be universal background checks, but there is about as much chance of that happening as there is an inclusive post season football tournament.

Vanderbilt and Utah State both have a chance. The problem is that you want to include them in a playoff after they have proven multiple times over the course of the season, that they aren't worthy.

Quote:I believe March Madness is far more exciting and has better games than the Post season football NIT.

Basketball players can play 6 games in 17 days and rarely get injured. When you include the top 48 teams in the country, it doesn't matter if #49 gets left out. When teams in the top 15 get left out at the expense of multiple teams ranked between 50-80, it makes no sense.

If your head wasn't permanently firmly up your fundament, maybe you would develop and imagination. As it is you barely have comprehension of the status quo.
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(05-29-2022 10:09 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(05-28-2022 03:53 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-28-2022 01:09 AM)Keeper Wrote:  Ok one more thought. I believe college basketball is much more competitive than college football. The same two or three teams don't end up playing for the championship year after year.

I believe March Madness is far more exciting and has better games than the Post season football NIT. I remember way back when there were only 18 or so teams in March Madness tournament and the cinderella Memphis State Tigers were underdogs in all of their games. They went on to play UCLA in the championship game.

I believe the elite have ruined college football and that an inclusive tournament would go a long way to repairing it. I believe every team should have a chance at winning a national championship at the beginning of football season, even Vanderbilt and Utah st. I believe that most of the nation also believes this. So what! 90% of the country believes there should be universal background checks, but there is about as much chance of that happening as there is an inclusive post season football tournament.

Vanderbilt and Utah State both have a chance. The problem is that you want to include them in a playoff after they have proven multiple times over the course of the season, that they aren't worthy.

Quote:I believe March Madness is far more exciting and has better games than the Post season football NIT.

Basketball players can play 6 games in 17 days and rarely get injured. When you include the top 48 teams in the country, it doesn't matter if #49 gets left out. When teams in the top 15 get left out at the expense of multiple teams ranked between 50-80, it makes no sense.

If your head wasn't permanently firmly up your fundament, maybe you would develop and imagination. As it is you barely have comprehension of the status quo.

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(05-29-2022 10:09 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(05-28-2022 03:53 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-28-2022 01:09 AM)Keeper Wrote:  Ok one more thought. I believe college basketball is much more competitive than college football. The same two or three teams don't end up playing for the championship year after year.

I believe March Madness is far more exciting and has better games than the Post season football NIT. I remember way back when there were only 18 or so teams in March Madness tournament and the cinderella Memphis State Tigers were underdogs in all of their games. They went on to play UCLA in the championship game.

I believe the elite have ruined college football and that an inclusive tournament would go a long way to repairing it. I believe every team should have a chance at winning a national championship at the beginning of football season, even Vanderbilt and Utah st. I believe that most of the nation also believes this. So what! 90% of the country believes there should be universal background checks, but there is about as much chance of that happening as there is an inclusive post season football tournament.

Vanderbilt and Utah State both have a chance. The problem is that you want to include them in a playoff after they have proven multiple times over the course of the season, that they aren't worthy.

Quote:I believe March Madness is far more exciting and has better games than the Post season football NIT.

Basketball players can play 6 games in 17 days and rarely get injured. When you include the top 48 teams in the country, it doesn't matter if #49 gets left out. When teams in the top 15 get left out at the expense of multiple teams ranked between 50-80, it makes no sense.

If your head wasn't permanently firmly up your fundament, maybe you would develop and imagination. As it is you barely have comprehension of the status quo.

Quote:I am to the left of Bernie Sanders
- Create a system that is 100% NOT merit based
- Reward those that generate 0.1% of the revenue/profits with a minimum 25% participation rate
- Destroy the entire bowl system, which is responsible for the bulk of the revenue/profits
- Byes for the top 4 teams, which will lead to even more blowouts
- Schedule games that most fans won't want to see
- 5 non P5 participants, many years only 1 participant from the ACC and PAC12
- Allowing teams ranked 50-80 to participate, teams ranked in the top 15 will not participate
- Alabama had two superstar wide receivers, including the #12 pick in the NFL draft, miss the title game with a 2 game playoff. Set up a system where 8 teams will have to play 2 games, 4 teams will have to play 3 games, and 2 teams will have to play 4 games. That should lead to less injuries, right?

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