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RE: How I would like to see a national football tournament organized.
(05-18-2022 08:27 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 07:42 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 02:01 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 12:56 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-17-2022 11:26 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Yep-its fair---Georgia should not of lost 2 --and won their conference if they wanted to host a home game--they should have just played better---plus the fixed/fake/rigged rankings are ALWAYS SKEWED in the big boys favor anyway

Georgia had 1 loss to #3 Alabama and went into the playoff ranked #3 in the country.

Georgia
12-1
1 loss to Alabama, 12-1 and ranked #3 in the country
#3 in the country entering the playoff
Beat 4 ranked teams

Utah State
10-3
Lost to 7-5 Boise at home by 24
Lost to 6-6 Wyoming at home by 27
Lost to 10-3 BYU at home by 14

Your position is that 1 loss Georgia (the eventual national champion btw) did NOT deserve a home game, but 3 blowout loss Utah State DID deserve a home game?

Because Georgia did NOT play well enough to deserve a home game, but Utah State, DID?

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Based on the OP'S (KEEPER) idea on what the playoffs should be ------absolutely ----Georgia would have known the rules and criteria ---they should have played better and won their conference if they wanted to host a home game !

They played better than every single school in the country except two. Utah State would have been 4-9 playing their schedule. If it was the NCAA basketball tournament, it would have been a #11 seed playing a home game against a #1 seed. Super fair.

Everyone gets a trophy.

Pure speculation saying 4-9----that's like somebody on here repeating that the Big 12 told the university to build a tiny mickey mouse OCS because we needed less fans at our games ---Utah ST might have went 13-0-----------and (KEEPER) WAS TALKING about football not basketball----------------and under (KEEPERS) model it would have been fair---the criteria --win your conference host a game ------I dont believe it would have been written that every team but Georgia has to win their conference to host a game----even though thats exactly what the sec/power5 bootlickers would prefer ----keep the LIL Ole Miami Ohio and Lil O MEMPHIS' of the world in their place

Quote:I dont believe it would have been written that every team but Georgia has to win their conference to host a game

It will never be written that way. Even the dumbest of those in charge aren't that dumb. Even the dumbest won't allow a 5 loss team to host a home game against the #3 team in the country. Nobody will ever allow a team ranked #65 to host the #3 team in the country; Thank God.

Yes, maybe they would have gone 13-0 even though they lost at home to Wyoming, BYU and Boise by a combined 65 points. You make a compelling argument.

Quote:LIL Ole Miami Ohio


Who wants to see a team that got blown out in 5 games by an average of 31 points, not only playing in a playoff game, but hosting a playoff game against a top 5 team in the country? You and Ponytail.
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RE: How I would like to see a national football tournament organized.
(05-18-2022 08:27 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 07:42 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 02:01 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 12:56 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-17-2022 11:26 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Yep-its fair---Georgia should not of lost 2 --and won their conference if they wanted to host a home game--they should have just played better---plus the fixed/fake/rigged rankings are ALWAYS SKEWED in the big boys favor anyway

Georgia had 1 loss to #3 Alabama and went into the playoff ranked #3 in the country.

Georgia
12-1
1 loss to Alabama, 12-1 and ranked #3 in the country
#3 in the country entering the playoff
Beat 4 ranked teams

Utah State
10-3
Lost to 7-5 Boise at home by 24
Lost to 6-6 Wyoming at home by 27
Lost to 10-3 BYU at home by 14

Your position is that 1 loss Georgia (the eventual national champion btw) did NOT deserve a home game, but 3 blowout loss Utah State DID deserve a home game?

Because Georgia did NOT play well enough to deserve a home game, but Utah State, DID?

03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

Based on the OP'S (KEEPER) idea on what the playoffs should be ------absolutely ----Georgia would have known the rules and criteria ---they should have played better and won their conference if they wanted to host a home game !

They played better than every single school in the country except two. Utah State would have been 4-9 playing their schedule. If it was the NCAA basketball tournament, it would have been a #11 seed playing a home game against a #1 seed. Super fair.

Everyone gets a trophy.

Pure speculation saying 4-9----that's like somebody on here repeating that the Big 12 told the university to build a tiny mickey mouse OCS because we needed less fans at our games ---Utah ST might have went 13-0-----------and (KEEPER) WAS TALKING about football not basketball----------------and under (KEEPERS) model it would have been fair---the criteria --win your conference host a game ------I dont believe it would have been written that every team but Georgia has to win their conference to host a game----even though thats exactly what the sec/power5 bootlickers would prefer ----keep the LIL Ole Miami Ohio and Lil O MEMPHIS' of the world in their place

Quote:that's like somebody on here repeating that the Big 12 told the university to build a tiny mickey mouse OCS because we needed less fans at our games

You need to be reminded again, that the model for an OCS would have been Colorado State's stadium, which holds 41,000. Cincinnati's holds under 39,000 and Houston's holds 40,000. Such a "Mickey Mouse" stadium would have cost between $300 - $400 million.

So again, you are completely wrong.
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RE: How I would like to see a national football tournament organized.
reduce the # of football teams players down to like 65? players.
This will allow more 4 & 5-star players to spread out to other teams...including the G5.
That would give some G5 a fighting chance at staying in the playoffs.
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RE: How I would like to see a national football tournament organized.
(05-19-2022 09:59 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 08:27 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 07:42 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 02:01 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 12:56 PM)Stammers Wrote:  Georgia had 1 loss to #3 Alabama and went into the playoff ranked #3 in the country.

Georgia
12-1
1 loss to Alabama, 12-1 and ranked #3 in the country
#3 in the country entering the playoff
Beat 4 ranked teams

Utah State
10-3
Lost to 7-5 Boise at home by 24
Lost to 6-6 Wyoming at home by 27
Lost to 10-3 BYU at home by 14

Your position is that 1 loss Georgia (the eventual national champion btw) did NOT deserve a home game, but 3 blowout loss Utah State DID deserve a home game?

Because Georgia did NOT play well enough to deserve a home game, but Utah State, DID?

03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

Based on the OP'S (KEEPER) idea on what the playoffs should be ------absolutely ----Georgia would have known the rules and criteria ---they should have played better and won their conference if they wanted to host a home game !

They played better than every single school in the country except two. Utah State would have been 4-9 playing their schedule. If it was the NCAA basketball tournament, it would have been a #11 seed playing a home game against a #1 seed. Super fair.

Everyone gets a trophy.

Pure speculation saying 4-9----that's like somebody on here repeating that the Big 12 told the university to build a tiny mickey mouse OCS because we needed less fans at our games ---Utah ST might have went 13-0-----------and (KEEPER) WAS TALKING about football not basketball----------------and under (KEEPERS) model it would have been fair---the criteria --win your conference host a game ------I dont believe it would have been written that every team but Georgia has to win their conference to host a game----even though thats exactly what the sec/power5 bootlickers would prefer ----keep the LIL Ole Miami Ohio and Lil O MEMPHIS' of the world in their place

Quote:that's like somebody on here repeating that the Big 12 told the university to build a tiny mickey mouse OCS because we needed less fans at our games

You need to be reminded again, that the model for an OCS would have been Colorado State's stadium, which holds 41,000. Cincinnati's holds under 39,000 and Houston's holds 40,000. Such a "Mickey Mouse" stadium would have cost between $300 - $400 million.

So again, you are completely wrong.

Our AD said in the presser that the big 12 NEVER IMPLIED that we needed an OCS and our AD said in the presser that the university was never committed to a 40K-seat OCS if it built one ---he even went on to say that in the new MEMPHIS MEMORIAL STADIUM that we would even have room to expand if/when we get in the club and supply warrants.

Like I repeated over and over --an OCS wasnt necessary ----but if we were gonna build one just make it big enough to begin with----like I said over and over at least 50K

Yep the Mickey Mouse Tiny stadium cost COL St 250--at todays cost much more ---that's why I said BUILD IT BIG ENOUGH TO BEGIN WITH--------guess what it will be 50K+---not 40---sorry----wrong again
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(05-19-2022 11:31 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-19-2022 09:59 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 08:27 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 07:42 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 02:01 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Based on the OP'S (KEEPER) idea on what the playoffs should be ------absolutely ----Georgia would have known the rules and criteria ---they should have played better and won their conference if they wanted to host a home game !

They played better than every single school in the country except two. Utah State would have been 4-9 playing their schedule. If it was the NCAA basketball tournament, it would have been a #11 seed playing a home game against a #1 seed. Super fair.

Everyone gets a trophy.

Pure speculation saying 4-9----that's like somebody on here repeating that the Big 12 told the university to build a tiny mickey mouse OCS because we needed less fans at our games ---Utah ST might have went 13-0-----------and (KEEPER) WAS TALKING about football not basketball----------------and under (KEEPERS) model it would have been fair---the criteria --win your conference host a game ------I dont believe it would have been written that every team but Georgia has to win their conference to host a game----even though thats exactly what the sec/power5 bootlickers would prefer ----keep the LIL Ole Miami Ohio and Lil O MEMPHIS' of the world in their place

Quote:that's like somebody on here repeating that the Big 12 told the university to build a tiny mickey mouse OCS because we needed less fans at our games

You need to be reminded again, that the model for an OCS would have been Colorado State's stadium, which holds 41,000. Cincinnati's holds under 39,000 and Houston's holds 40,000. Such a "Mickey Mouse" stadium would have cost between $300 - $400 million.

So again, you are completely wrong.

Our AD said in the presser that the big 12 NEVER IMPLIED that we needed an OCS and our AD said in the presser that the university was never committed to a 40K-seat OCS if it built one ---he even went on to say that in the new MEMPHIS MEMORIAL STADIUM that we would even have room to expand if/when we get in the club and supply warrants.

Like I repeated over and over --an OCS wasnt necessary ----but if we were gonna build one just make it big enough to begin with----like I said over and over at least 50K

Yep the Mickey Mouse Tiny stadium cost COL St 250--at todays cost much more ---that's why I said BUILD IT BIG ENOUGH TO BEGIN WITH--------guess what it will be 50K+---not 40---sorry----wrong again

Quote:Like I repeated over and over
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Quote:Yep the Mickey Mouse Tiny stadium cost COL St 250--at todays cost much more ---that's why I said BUILD IT BIG ENOUGH TO BEGIN WITH--------guess what it will be 50K+---not 40---sorry----wrong again

Yes, we would have been able to raise $200 million, so let's build a $700 million stadium that is much too big than what we need. Houston 40,000, Cincinnati 38,900 are plenty big enough. Wrong (obviously) again.

Quote:our AD said in the presser that the university was never committed to a 40K-seat OCS if it built one

Something is wrong with your hearing. Veatch says quite clearly that the optimal capacity was 38,000 - 44,000, and they used Colorado State's stadium as the benchmark because it was the perfect size and had similar amenities to what we needed. So you are (obviously) wrong again.

Quote:like I said over and over at least 50K
03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

Yes, over and over, you alone. I wonder why?


94% of the board, and everyone associated with decision making at Memphis agrees that 45,000 should be the max optimal size. Nowhere does anyone say that it should be more. So you are (obviously) wrong.
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Home field matters a bit

But fer crissake if a really good SEC team has to play a road game at a less talented but conference champion school like, say, Appalachian State

Stop whining and win the game
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I'll play.

16 Teams - All 10 conference champions get bids , 6 remaining teams picked by top 20 ranking.

Don't care how they pick home field advantage, tie breakers or any of that stuff.
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RE: How I would like to see a national football tournament organized.
(05-19-2022 04:07 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-19-2022 11:31 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-19-2022 09:59 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 08:27 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 07:42 PM)Stammers Wrote:  They played better than every single school in the country except two. Utah State would have been 4-9 playing their schedule. If it was the NCAA basketball tournament, it would have been a #11 seed playing a home game against a #1 seed. Super fair.

Everyone gets a trophy.

Pure speculation saying 4-9----that's like somebody on here repeating that the Big 12 told the university to build a tiny mickey mouse OCS because we needed less fans at our games ---Utah ST might have went 13-0-----------and (KEEPER) WAS TALKING about football not basketball----------------and under (KEEPERS) model it would have been fair---the criteria --win your conference host a game ------I dont believe it would have been written that every team but Georgia has to win their conference to host a game----even though thats exactly what the sec/power5 bootlickers would prefer ----keep the LIL Ole Miami Ohio and Lil O MEMPHIS' of the world in their place

Quote:that's like somebody on here repeating that the Big 12 told the university to build a tiny mickey mouse OCS because we needed less fans at our games

You need to be reminded again, that the model for an OCS would have been Colorado State's stadium, which holds 41,000. Cincinnati's holds under 39,000 and Houston's holds 40,000. Such a "Mickey Mouse" stadium would have cost between $300 - $400 million.

So again, you are completely wrong.

Our AD said in the presser that the big 12 NEVER IMPLIED that we needed an OCS and our AD said in the presser that the university was never committed to a 40K-seat OCS if it built one ---he even went on to say that in the new MEMPHIS MEMORIAL STADIUM that we would even have room to expand if/when we get in the club and supply warrants.

Like I repeated over and over --an OCS wasnt necessary ----but if we were gonna build one just make it big enough to begin with----like I said over and over at least 50K

Yep the Mickey Mouse Tiny stadium cost COL St 250--at todays cost much more ---that's why I said BUILD IT BIG ENOUGH TO BEGIN WITH--------guess what it will be 50K+---not 40---sorry----wrong again

Quote:Like I repeated over and over
03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

Quote:Yep the Mickey Mouse Tiny stadium cost COL St 250--at todays cost much more ---that's why I said BUILD IT BIG ENOUGH TO BEGIN WITH--------guess what it will be 50K+---not 40---sorry----wrong again

Yes, we would have been able to raise $200 million, so let's build a $700 million stadium that is much too big than what we need. Houston 40,000, Cincinnati 38,900 are plenty big enough. Wrong (obviously) again.

Quote:our AD said in the presser that the university was never committed to a 40K-seat OCS if it built one

Something is wrong with your hearing. Veatch says quite clearly that the optimal capacity was 38,000 - 44,000, and they used Colorado State's stadium as the benchmark because it was the perfect size and had similar amenities to what we needed. So you are (obviously) wrong again.

Quote:like I said over and over at least 50K
03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

Yes, over and over, you alone. I wonder why?


94% of the board, and everyone associated with decision making at Memphis agrees that 45,000 should be the max optimal size. Nowhere does anyone say that it should be more. So you are (obviously) wrong.

At the very end of the presser (23:00) mark--the AD clearly states that the university was not set on/committed to/hung up on/sold on/in agreement on/thought they only needed/ a 40K seat stadium-------guess what it IS 50K ++++ the way it should be
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(05-19-2022 04:07 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-19-2022 11:31 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-19-2022 09:59 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 08:27 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 07:42 PM)Stammers Wrote:  They played better than every single school in the country except two. Utah State would have been 4-9 playing their schedule. If it was the NCAA basketball tournament, it would have been a #11 seed playing a home game against a #1 seed. Super fair.

Everyone gets a trophy.

Pure speculation saying 4-9----that's like somebody on here repeating that the Big 12 told the university to build a tiny mickey mouse OCS because we needed less fans at our games ---Utah ST might have went 13-0-----------and (KEEPER) WAS TALKING about football not basketball----------------and under (KEEPERS) model it would have been fair---the criteria --win your conference host a game ------I dont believe it would have been written that every team but Georgia has to win their conference to host a game----even though thats exactly what the sec/power5 bootlickers would prefer ----keep the LIL Ole Miami Ohio and Lil O MEMPHIS' of the world in their place

Quote:that's like somebody on here repeating that the Big 12 told the university to build a tiny mickey mouse OCS because we needed less fans at our games

You need to be reminded again, that the model for an OCS would have been Colorado State's stadium, which holds 41,000. Cincinnati's holds under 39,000 and Houston's holds 40,000. Such a "Mickey Mouse" stadium would have cost between $300 - $400 million.

So again, you are completely wrong.

Our AD said in the presser that the big 12 NEVER IMPLIED that we needed an OCS and our AD said in the presser that the university was never committed to a 40K-seat OCS if it built one ---he even went on to say that in the new MEMPHIS MEMORIAL STADIUM that we would even have room to expand if/when we get in the club and supply warrants.

Like I repeated over and over --an OCS wasnt necessary ----but if we were gonna build one just make it big enough to begin with----like I said over and over at least 50K

Yep the Mickey Mouse Tiny stadium cost COL St 250--at todays cost much more ---that's why I said BUILD IT BIG ENOUGH TO BEGIN WITH--------guess what it will be 50K+---not 40---sorry----wrong again

Quote:Like I repeated over and over
03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

Quote:Yep the Mickey Mouse Tiny stadium cost COL St 250--at todays cost much more ---that's why I said BUILD IT BIG ENOUGH TO BEGIN WITH--------guess what it will be 50K+---not 40---sorry----wrong again

Yes, we would have been able to raise $200 million, so let's build a $700 million stadium that is much too big than what we need. Houston 40,000, Cincinnati 38,900 are plenty big enough. Wrong (obviously) again.

Quote:our AD said in the presser that the university was never committed to a 40K-seat OCS if it built one

Something is wrong with your hearing. Veatch says quite clearly that the optimal capacity was 38,000 - 44,000, and they used Colorado State's stadium as the benchmark because it was the perfect size and had similar amenities to what we needed. So you are (obviously) wrong again.

Quote:like I said over and over at least 50K
03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

Yes, over and over, you alone. I wonder why?


94% of the board, and everyone associated with decision making at Memphis agrees that 45,000 should be the max optimal size. Nowhere does anyone say that it should be more. So you are (obviously) wrong.

Unlike some --I couldn't care less what the masses think---I can think on my own with my own opinion
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(05-15-2022 07:57 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-12-2022 03:22 PM)Keeper Wrote:  First: 16 teams

Second: seed top eight conference champions

Third: seed the eight at large invitees

Fourth: All first round games at the home field of the conference
champions with 20% of seats available to visiting opponent (home team keeps all proceeds from ticket sales)

Fifth: The last 7 games played at neutral sites.

Sixth: Maintain this system for a minimum of 5 years to allow everyone
to come arou01-wingedeagle:lmfao:nd to realize this is the most equitable system and
is the one that should have always been in place.

So...the #5 and #6 teams in the country play a road game against a Sun Belt or CUSA team. Equitable.

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Yep! Home dogs will find a bone sooner than later. The longer the tournament lasts the more competitive college football becomes. I know you only want about 6 teams to ever have a chance to compete, and the Tigers are not in your top 6.
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(05-15-2022 12:41 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Is it fair...

That 2 loss Georgia ranked in the top 5 should have to play at the Cusa home field

Yeah if Georgia doesn't win their conference and Western Ky wins theirs. Not difficult to understand. Conference title races will enhance the regular season. Even PAC, Big xii, and ACC teams other than Clemson will have opportunities to host National Championship Tournament games. But I understand; you never want to see a football tournament game in Liberty Stadium. Personally I would love to take on Georgia there for the right to play in the quarterfinals in the Sugar Bowl. I know you would think it demeaning for your beloved bulldogs to have to play a road game against our Tigers, but most of us would be looking for the Tigers to win that game.
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(05-18-2022 05:12 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 02:01 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-18-2022 12:56 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-17-2022 11:26 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-15-2022 12:41 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Is it fair...

That 2 loss Georgia ranked in the top 5 should have to play at the Cusa home field

Yep-its fair---Georgia should not of lost 2 --and won their conference if they wanted to host a home game--they should have just played better---plus the fixed/fake/rigged rankings are ALWAYS SKEWED in the big boys favor anyway

Georgia had 1 loss to #3 Alabama and went into the playoff ranked #3 in the country.

Georgia
12-1
1 loss to Alabama, 12-1 and ranked #3 in the country
#3 in the country entering the playoff
Beat 4 ranked teams

Utah State
10-3
Lost to 7-5 Boise at home by 24
Lost to 6-6 Wyoming at home by 27
Lost to 10-3 BYU at home by 14

Your position is that 1 loss Georgia (the eventual national champion btw) did NOT deserve a home game, but 3 blowout loss Utah State DID deserve a home game?

Because Georgia did NOT play well enough to deserve a home game, but Utah State, DID?

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Based on the OP'S (KEEPER) idea on what the playoffs should be ------absolutely ----Georgia would have known the rules and criteria ---they should have played better and won their conference if they wanted to host a home game !

Yeah this is just an idea to punish the stronger conferences...

No this is an idea to make college football more competitive and more exciting.
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(05-19-2022 08:09 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(05-15-2022 07:57 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-12-2022 03:22 PM)Keeper Wrote:  First: 16 teams

Second: seed top eight conference champions

Third: seed the eight at large invitees

Fourth: All first round games at the home field of the conference
champions with 20% of seats available to visiting opponent (home team keeps all proceeds from ticket sales)

Fifth: The last 7 games played at neutral sites.

Sixth: Maintain this system for a minimum of 5 years to allow everyone
to come arou01-wingedeagle:lmfao:nd to realize this is the most equitable system and
is the one that should have always been in place.

So...the #5 and #6 teams in the country play a road game against a Sun Belt or CUSA team. Equitable.

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Yep! Home dogs will find a bone sooner than later. The longer the tournament lasts the more competitive college football becomes. I know you only want about 6 teams to ever have a chance to compete, and the Tigers are not in your top 6.

Take a system that is unfair, and come up with a "solution" 04-drinky that is so ridiculous and lacking in common sense, that nobody would ever go for it in a million years.

The Tigers or the top G5 are in my top 8. Teams with 5 or 6 multiple losses, that draw 15,000 to their home games, that nobody cares about, that are ranked #60-80 are obviously not on anyone's list.
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RE: How I would like to see a national football tournament organized.
(05-19-2022 06:28 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  I'll play.

16 Teams - All 10 conference champions get bids , 6 remaining teams picked by top 20 ranking.

Don't care how they pick home field advantage, tie breakers or any of that stuff.

I’ll play along here as I like your setup & believe including all conferences provides a true champion at end.

My proposal I hope would eventually add some tradition & cross conference rivalries & in most cases be regionally advantageous.

The 10 conference champs play each other in the 1st round every year against their regional counterpart.

Say:

SEC vs SBC
ACC vs AAC
B10 vs MAC
B12 vs CUSA
PAC vs MWC

(AAC & CUSA can be flipped if preferred)

The the 6 at larges play each other.

Seeding will be based on the P5 champs rankings 1st for 1-5, then 6-8 will be on rankings of at large teams.

50/50 on whether I have home team hosting or escalate some of the lower bowl games prestige by incorporating them into playoffs. Leaning towards bowl game approach to give away team a more fair opportunity. Besides a G5 champ deserves a bowl game for their season, not a road game at a P5 champ.

I believe there is a lot of money to be made here & it would benefit everyone.
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(05-19-2022 11:31 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Our AD said in the presser that the big 12 NEVER IMPLIED that we needed an OCS and our AD said in the presser that the university was never committed to a 40K-seat OCS if it built one ---he even went on to say that in the new MEMPHIS MEMORIAL STADIUM that we would even have room to expand if/when we get in the club and supply warrants.

Like I repeated over and over --an OCS wasnt necessary ----but if we were gonna build one just make it big enough to begin with----like I said over and over at least 50K

Yep the Mickey Mouse Tiny stadium cost COL St 250--at todays cost much more ---that's why I said BUILD IT BIG ENOUGH TO BEGIN WITH--------guess what it will be 50K+---not 40---sorry----wrong again

You're reading into it what you want.

The interview that I heard with Veatch, he said the optimum size would have been "in the low 40's" - but that with the current LBMS configuration it made more sense to go with 50-ish. Then he said, to put a silver lining on it, that we will have the opportunity for bigger crowds in the future. And that was clearly to put a positive spin on it, because GP had laid out the case very clearly for a 40-45k stadium.
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RE: How I would like to see a national football tournament organized.
(05-19-2022 06:16 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Home field matters a bit

But fer crissake if a really good SEC team has to play a road game at a less talented but conference champion school like, say, Appalachian State

Stop whining and win the game

That's what they tell us all the time, right?
So what if you can only get a P5 team to play you on the road? Shuddup and go win the game.
They say the same things in basketball, too - regarding Q1 games.
But the minute something is proposed that flips it on them, they would cry foul.
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RE: How I would like to see a national football tournament organized.
This idea of mine would not be mandatory of course. Any teams could opt out and have an invitational tournament of their own. They would be replaced by willing participants who want to compete for a championship in a post season football tournament.

In college athletics this has happened before. In basketball for many years the champion of the NIT was generally considered the national champion, and the Tigers were the runner-up one season losing to Bradley by one point in 1957 (I remember it well). The NCAA basketball tournament soldiered along with what became 16 conference champions and eventually its champion was universally considered the national champion. The NIT continued on but without conference champions it eventually became the consolation tournament it is today.

Football should only be so lucky.
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RE: How I would like to see a national football tournament organized.
I just had another idea. What if a champions football tournament was established? Only conference champions can compete. The 5 g5 champions of course and perhaps some day the 2 p5 conference champions who are always left out of the NIT exhibition would want to participate. In a few years maybe every conference except the SEC would send their champion and eventually even the SEC would screw up their courage to compete in a tournament. Just like the NCAA basketball tournament there might even be some at large teams invited.

Meanwhile I am pretty sure there would be enough interest from one or more tv network to host the Champions Tournament.
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(05-21-2022 06:04 PM)Keeper Wrote:  I just had another idea. What if a champions football tournament was established? Only conference champions can compete. The 5 g5 champions of course and perhaps some day the 2 p5 conference champions who are always left out of the NIT exhibition would want to participate. In a few years maybe every conference except the SEC would send their champion and eventually even the SEC would screw up their courage to compete in a tournament. Just like the NCAA basketball tournament there might even be some at large teams invited.

Meanwhile I am pretty sure there would be enough interest from one or more tv network to host the Champions Tournament.

I like it --book it !----however get ready for the king sec/power5 bootlicker to attack
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RE: How I would like to see a national football tournament organized.
(05-21-2022 06:04 PM)Keeper Wrote:  I just had another idea. What if a champions football tournament was established? Only conference champions can compete. The 5 g5 champions of course and perhaps some day the 2 p5 conference champions who are always left out of the NIT exhibition would want to participate. In a few years maybe every conference except the SEC would send their champion and eventually even the SEC would screw up their courage to compete in a tournament. Just like the NCAA basketball tournament there might even be some at large teams invited.

Meanwhile I am pretty sure there would be enough interest from one or more tv network to host the Champions Tournament.

It's actually a great idea. It would be a 4 team playoff.

Sun Belt
CUSA
MAC
MWC

Ponytail and his buddy can watch it on The Lifetime Network at 2AM on a Wednesday.
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